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China's Stealth Fighter Flight Test Successful
New submitter vencs writes "China has successfully tested its second stealth fighter, a smaller, twin-engine jet that military analysts said could potentially allow it to one day fly missions from an aircraft carrier. Military analysts said the new jet's design suggested the People's Liberation Army might use it to arm and escort aircraft carriers like the Liaoning, which was officially deployed last month. Andrei Chang, editor-in-chief of Kanwa Asian Defense Monthly, said the new prototype appears to have borrowed features from the U.S. Air Force's twin-engine F-22 and U.S. Navy's single-engine F-35C."
lowers their production quantities and the odds of them picking a fight with neighbors.
Looks like it's time to start learning Mandarin. The holy prophesy Firefly, of the prophet Whedon, depicted this eventuality.
Their jet is so stealthy, even the word jet only appears as je in the story's synopsis above.
Nor is a test program atomic.
...when you don't have to spend money on R&D because you've stolen the technology from the US.
"Andrei Chang, editor-in-chief of Kanwa Asian Defense Monthly, said the new prototype appears to have borrowed features from the U.S. Air Force's twin-engine F-22 and U.S. Navy's single-engine F-35C."
Borrowed? Like they are going to give it back?
So how does America deal with this problem?
Does it look to ways in which it can cut red tape and production costs so that it Is able to build fighters for a reasonable cost?
Or does it raise taxes to increase the amount it csn spend?
How would anyone know it's been tested?
It's supposed to be completely automatic, but actually you have to press this button.
While China is stealing western tech for stealth, we are moving towards automated drones to take on enemy aircraft. In fact, it is likely that the F-22 and F-35 will be the end of American fighters.
Other than drones, we really need to focus on better defenses, and better protection for communications.
That means lasers as well as rail guns. In addition, the DOD really needs to spend money on thorium reactors. They will need to provide tanks with high electrical output to do either a laser or a rail gun.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
No need to build new aeroplanes or, heaven forbid, work on innovative new designs. Just attack them with...patents! All those rounded corners must, surely, breach some spurious Apple patent or other. Microsoft can claim that numerous of their patents have been infringed and demand payments with menaces but never be willing to say exactly what patents were infringed. Paul Allen and Lodsys had best stay out of it as we don't want these aircraft to travel to an East Texas kangeroo court to defend their claims
I suspect it takes an incredible amount of R&D to develop this kind of tech, and Chinese aren't known for their R&D efforts. They either buy, steal the technology or claim that it's X where in fact it is Y or X with inferior characteristics. They bought the full Soyuz design, spacesuits, training from Russia back in the 90s and based their Shenzhou rocket on it. That is why their space missions were so successful. It wasn't surprising to me that when I looked up on "J-31," I found that the engines are probably those that were used in MIG-29.
It might look like F-35, whether it actually has all the necessary components to be called the fifth-generation jet and whether they all work as advertised is another matter.
In an internet post nutshell over-simplification:
The initial stages of the next big conflict will go something like this:
Cyber attack on the entire nation's infrastructure.
While populace is shitting in their pants and panicking like little sheep, the drones and cheap aircraft is sent in by waves and waves to knock out the little and very expensive air force of the target country.
After that, it depends on what the ultimate goal is.
All this show of "stealth" aircraft and carriers is just to sucker the US into yet another obscenely expensive arms race to further weaken our economy in order to make us go all Soviet Union or British Empire - in both cases being a World power drained the state's coffers so much that they couldn't play and it didn't do the US much good either. Contrary to our propaganda, we did not win the Cold War: we didn't go bust first.
China has this wonderful positive cash flow: ours is negative - we cannot win a war of spending.
Remember that the next time you see lines for the next shiny new Apple thing-a-ma-bob or any other consumer shit.
They've done a whole lot more than one ten minute flight.
None of that matters -- if China isn't directly threatening Europe or Israel, then the US doesn't give a flying fuck what China does. China has been able to rise precisely because it's located far from those countries and thus wouldn't trigger alarm bells from the their powerful US foreign policy lobbies. As for any rising potential threat to the US itself, that doesn't matter -- the US doesn't pursue its own national security, just the national security of other nations/continents who have strong lobbies in Washington.
Nobody reacted that way when the Soviets and Chinese got the Bomb
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"Did you see our new stealth fighter?"
"No?"
"Damn we're good!"
The opposing military won't be judging it based on its aesthetics or originality. They'll be judging it as a weapon and its effective kill rate. That's what matters in combat.
Yeah, because you, dear AC, are so much better than everyone else. We're all human, it must have slipped your mind this morning, I guess.
A successful API design takes a mixture of software design and pedagogy.
The United States will confront China, no doubt about that.
Why would we not want to put nuclear reactors in someone else's urban areas. The worst that could happen is our front line military assets will be destroyed along with the entire enemy population.
Well CLEARLY, America's only answer to this is another $50 billion in stealth fighters that we can store in a military hangar for the next 100 years.
... that show for teenage girls.
The show featured teenage girls, which suggests that it was actually made for teenage boys.
When you get older this will make more sense.
One ten-minute flight is not a test program.
But that is how test programs begin.
It ain't expensive to build a stealth plane when you don't have to spend money on R&D because you've stolen the technology from the US.
Plus US consumers are paying for this one too.
"appears to have (borrowed) (parentheses mine) features from the U.S. Air Force's twin-engine F-22 and U.S. Navy's single-engine F-35C" (I think you mean stolen)!
The communist Chinese have always been short on originality and Long on thievery.
I killed da wabbit -Elmer Fudd
their planes probably all contain those famous "Crapacitors" from Fuhjyyu, Capxon, and Teapo.
Nah, you mean Georgia attacked first like a Mouse-That-Roared, and then cried victim when the Russians stomped on them. And of course McCain and other hawks were just waiting to scream "It's Big Bad Russia! Vote GOP!"
Considering that Georgia named the main street in their capitol after George Bush, it's not too far a stretch to believe they could have conducted their attack at the Whitehouse's behest, as some kind of October Surprise maneuver during the final leg of the election campaign.
Yeah, but being made in China the thing will break before the warranty runs out - probably within the first month, then when you check the paperwork there is no phone number or address for the company, and when you google it all you find is alibaba listings to purchase the same of crap. Then, you check out epinions and an amazon listing and everyone gives it a poor rating. Oh, and let's not even think about the lead paint.
Piece of crap.
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Another industry we can outsource to China! Look at all the money we'll save!
Welcome to the Turing Tarpit, where everything is possible but nothing interesting is easy.
just sue them for multiple patent infringements. It works here in the US...
The chinese stealth plane effort gets a whole lot of help from Israel. They even sold a whole IAI Lavi prototype to Beijing and that became the J-10 with russian engine, with 300 already in service at the PLA AF and Navy.
This way Israel will have the option to choose which side wins in a future Pacific conflict. Make no mistake, those stealth planes with their full digital controls are entirely trojanized. Only jews are smart enough to code the FWB and FADEC firmware that goes into F-22 and F-35 and the chinese steal via the net all that and copy the logic. What nobody knows is how much gematria (numerical kabbalah) tricks it contains. Those uninitiated will not even recognize there is anything nasty or unusual inside! The goyim have no clue about the power of gematria.
When the day of US-China clash comes, Israel will choose a side and make it win via cybernetic means. The side they reject will see its planes and radar sets become inoperable due to backdoor attacks via network and AESA directed beam attacks, as they pass the disarm codes on to the designeted winner. The georgians have already experienced that, as Russia became more friendly towards the jewry with half-jewish Medvedev becoming PM, therefore disarm codes were passed on to Moscow and Tbilisi sent down the loo.
I recommend USA stay steadfast in its support of Israel, help neutralize Iran by force, approve deportation of the so-called palestinians from Gaza, not make a fuss when the entiretiy of Syria is annexed and recognize the Nile-Tiger-Euphrates rivers as natural borders of the Greater Israel. That way USA can virtually guarantee that Israel will chose her as the winner when the day of that big Eagle-vs-Dragon match comes. Also, Miss Liberty shall not let the europeans forget about the Shoah (Holocaust), that is one very important duty of America which requires eternal vigilance!
P.s.: Dear Yankee, do not worry too much about the U.S. national debt. If you remain faithful towards the nation of the Convenant, it will be written off like it never existed and the chinese can eat their straw hats. The jewish people are experts in financials like nobody else (*). Remember, only if you remain faithful!
(*)In honesty the armeninans are even better traders, but they are so few, so don't count on them to save the USA. Only the tribe can do that.Shalom!
a chinese stealth fighter flight test is successful if you don't read about it in an american news blog.
Sure hope the pilots of those "stealth" fighters like seeing laser light.
It's anything but stealthy with all those hardpoints and external pylons.
If you're a boneheaded foreigner investing in China's military, Chinese Iranian or N. Korean Pakistani, or having already invested and reaped millions of drakmars and ruples are running for presidency somewhere on the planet. For the rest of the world, good news.. not so much.
How could you say such a thing? Pretty much every major US company manufactures everything they sell in China. If they just said, hey, sorry, we are not shipping any more consumer goods to your country, our economy would totally collapse overnight.
China also has another weapon that nobody ever likes to talk about - their government treasury prints all the Chinese money. They do not have to borrow money from the international financial cartel. This insulates them to a large degree from world financial problems. That, and the fact that most Chinese are still effectively peasants, beating at the soil with a rock tied to the end of a stick.
No, we will not confront China. At least, not until our manufacturing base is relocated.
The United States is an agrar export nation. China is the workbench of the occident. It makes a lot of sense to confront the nation and split it. What some call chinese dialects are in fact completely different languages, China is socially, technically, culturally etc very diverse, makes sense to support seperatist movements.
The plan of killing China by moving a bunch of companies over there to manufacture low- and high-tech goods has failed miserably.
No, China isn't splitting apart because they have different languages. This plan has been tried and it has failed miserably. Just look at all the success that the Hollywood-driven "Free Tibet" nonsense has had! We tried through a 55+ year CIA infiltration program, with the media softening up the USA to favor the brutal Dalai Lama, and threatening to exert some kind of theoretical (and it turns out, totally fake) international pressure, and that failed. This, in the most culturally, geographically, and linguistically distant part of the actual PRC.
If we really want to split China, we will have to do it in another way, not by continuing to enrich their economy, give them endless free high-tech manufacturing facilities, etc.
Talk to a Chinese person some day. Most haven't even heard of the Tiananmen Square massacre.
I am not speaking of Free Tibet, Tibet is not China but seized territory but no one cares over there. I mean more the conflicts between say an urban shanghai population, Beijing and rural provinces. It is a quite common saying among Chinese to "end China". They simply lack imagination.
"The plan of killing China by moving a bunch of companies over there to manufacture low- and high-tech goods has failed miserably." That was not the plan. The plan was to sell socks to 1 billion Chinese and alleged growth potential which stems from that. But seriously, we learned from the Soviet Union how to overstretch an empire.
If you think Tibet is seized territory than you are totally unaware of the history of the interactions between China and Tibet.
Tibet was a warlike kingdom for a very long time, which attacked China and extracted tribute for a long time, until China invaded and took it over. It was an official protectorate of Imperial China for hundreds of years.
Anyway, the Tibetans are much better off under the ChiCom than they were under Lamaism. At least they can ride a bike over the next hill without receiving the death penalty.
I think the plan was to actually create wealthy Chinese through factory partnerships, then help these people get into power, where they would gradually weaken the Communist government. Thing is, it was a terrible plan from the get-go and it hasn't really worked.
The Wang Lijun incident has showed anybody with eyes to see that we are still operating power-brokering scandals in China, but they have been effectively squashed and Bo Xilai who I suspect was our man on the inside is now disgraced, and I'm sure the hardliners over there are watching out for other Manchurians of ours, which undoubtedly exist.
Nah it was made for fags
I see the chinese espionage is alive and well. That plane looks almost exactly like an X-35, except it has two engines instead of one.
Thank you, Bill Clinton, for selling us the technology to make this jet.
Their agreement with Russia does not allow them to arm the Carrier in any conceivable way including placing armed planes on the ship. Their agreement allows them to use the carrier for one thing, testing and training. Maybe they'll violate the Russian sale agreement, I really don't think they will.
Brutal Dalai Lama? What are you smoking? I think you're advertising which govt you're loyal to right there, and I don't know who you think gives your "we" any credibility.
Heh, amazing - my original post was removed by the Jackbooted Censors who act as Thought Police here on Slashdot, but the posts of those rebutting me are kept around. Pathetic.
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don't feed, just ignore...
Am I the only one that sees the humor here of testing stealth technology?
So where is it? Oh it already flew by... (snicker).
Best plane ever, we'll order a thousand of them.
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