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Buckyballs Throws In the Towel

RenderSeven writes "As previously reported the immensely popular Buckyballs office toys have been targeted by the Consumer Product Safety Commission. Last week Maxfield and Oberton, the maker of Buckyballs gave up the battle and announced they would discontinue sales and close. However, being driven out of business is not enough for R Buckminster Fuller's estate, who has filed yet another lawsuit that they own all rights to the name "buckyballs" despite widespread use of the term. If you still haven't bought your own yet, a few thousand sets in stock are still available."

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  1. I have buckyballs! by biojayc · · Score: 5, Funny

    The company I work for bought everyone on our team a set. Probably worst investment ever. Productivity has definitely suffered. But look at my cool artistic design!

  2. Search for spherical neodymium magnets... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    ... on eBay, and you will find multiple vendors selling exactly the same thing, but not called buckyballs. They still exist - just not under that stupid name.

    1. Re:Search for spherical neodymium magnets... by rodrigoandrade · · Score: 4, Informative

      This is what they are, seriously?

      Having never heard of Buckyballs, I had to check the site out. Turns out that $30-$40 per set won't exactly break the budget, but you can assemble a similar kit from eBay for a LOT less (including shipping).

    2. Re:Search for spherical neodymium magnets... by firex726 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Well I think it's the coating.
      the magnets are rather brittle and wont hold up well to being banged together from it's own magnetic field, so they are coated.

      Cheap ones use cheap coatings that flake off easily, and expose the magnet underneath and it ends up breaking.

    3. Re:Search for spherical neodymium magnets... by cayenne8 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      When you have a product that actually kills kids, it's not mindless regulation to ban it.

      What's next? Kitchen knives have killed enough kids over the years...guess we need to ban those.

      Seriously, a few accidents happen....parents that don't keep things dangerous out of the reach of kids, or stupid kids putting anything in their mouth and swallowing it?

      I think that is more Darwin's Law at work....should ban things like that that MOST adults can safely enjoy....

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    4. Re:Search for spherical neodymium magnets... by triffid_98 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      When you have a product that actually kills kids, it's not mindless regulation to ban it

      Um...yes it freaking is. I can think of a great many things it could be fatal to swallow. Even dihydrogen monoxide is fatal in sufficient quantities.

      "Think of the children" has caused so much stupid regulation it should be an automatic fail ala Godwin's law.

  3. More mindless federal regulation by El+Puerco+Loco · · Score: 5, Funny

    Dammit, freedom isn't free. And if the price of my freedom to be entertained by buckyballs is measured in the lives of toddlers, so be it. And now, I think I'll go outside for a nice game of Jarts. Who wants to be goalie?

  4. I'll need to stock up by skipkent · · Score: 5, Funny

    I am a baker and normal dragées just don't work the same.

    1. Re:I'll need to stock up by ddxexex · · Score: 5, Informative

      Well I learn a couple of things today because of this post. 1) A dragée is the name for that metallic decorative ball thing they put on cakes. 2) never accept candy from skipkent.

  5. Hard to swallow by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 5, Funny

    I don't see how kids can swallow these, not with their guts full of washing machine gel packs.

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  6. State gone Mad by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Oh, look, the State destroying a business and free choice in the first part of the summary and then the State enabling people to harass other people over imaginary property in the second. Thank goodness they're around to keep things civil.

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    1. Re:State gone Mad by h4rr4r · · Score: 5, Informative

      They do not market them to children. The products have extensive warnings on them.

    2. Re:State gone Mad by Millennium · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The problem here is how they sell this product. The market this product as a toy for children.

      Actually, they don't.

      If they wrote on the package "MAY CAUSE DEATH" or listed a number of lives and surgeries the product has caused, I don't think anyone would care. Of course they'd go out of business.

      Actually, they do write this, and nobody cares. Unfortunately, rather than treating these injuries as the evidence of child neglect that they are, the feds have taken the approach of banning something that, when used appropriately, is perfectly safe.

    3. Re:State gone Mad by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Where are these rules, and lawsuits, for Legos? Just as small. More prevelant. more pieces to "kill" the poor children.

      Your apparent (and probably typical) ignorance of the difference between a piece of plastic and a high-powered magnet demonstrates the exact reason that the government felt compelled to act in this case.

  7. Zenmagnets has cheaper, better magnets... by quietwalker · · Score: 5, Interesting

    So if you want rare earth magnets before they're officially banned, get them from zenmagnets.com. Cheaper and higher quality. Also, they're not jerks like the buckyballs guys are.

    Fun video here comparing the two http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7Tka4NUmUo

    I know it looks like an advertisement posting, but as someone who owns a crudload of rare earth magnets, zenmagnets seem to me to be the best. I keep a mandala set on my desk at work for downtimes, and I have a manager who keeps trying to make the perfect soccer ball when I'm not looking.

    - and if you get the colored ones, just beware - the color tends to come off very easily if you're rough at all with them. You've been warned.

    1. Re:Zenmagnets has cheaper, better magnets... by RenderSeven · · Score: 5, Insightful

      they're not jerks like the buckyballs guys are.

      In what way are they jerks? They seem a little peeved at the CPSC but I would be too. Also note that the CPSC has targeted Zen Magnets as well: Zen Magnets was the first company to receive an administrative complaint from the Consumer Product Safety Commission without a record of injuries.

  8. Protecting the children. by EasyTarget · · Score: 4, Insightful

    magnets.. bad.

    Guns, assault rifles, knives, mace spray, tazers, baseball bats, and realistic 3rd person shooters... good.

    Glad you guys have got your retail priorities straight and are protecting your kids so well.

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  9. Your Freedom and Rights don't matter when... by SirAstral · · Score: 4, Insightful

    we have to protect another child on behalf of the parents not capable of using good common sense.

    We need to stop making scissors of all kinds, stop the production of any toys that a small child might play with but not marketed to them, and even take kids balls away because someone might get hurt.

    Stupid people doing stupid things... being going on for millenia, and every effort to stop them has failed.

  10. Hey Entrepreneurs! by JWW · · Score: 5, Funny

    Still interested in starting a small business in the US?

    Didn't think so....

    Starting a small business in the US today is less like reaching for your dreams and more like Running Man where you get a 30 minute head start before the death lawyers start chasing you...

  11. Re:See by h4rr4r · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Actually 12 year olds are a decent size group that is eating these. They use them to simulate tongue, cheek and labret piercings.

    Limiting it to 18 plus might stop some of those idiot preteens. It would also make it more clear that these products have some level of danger involved.
     

  12. Warning Label by screwzloos · · Score: 4, Informative

    WARNING
    Keep Away From All Children!
    Do not put in nose or mouth.
    Swallowed magnets can stick to
    intestines causing serious injury or death.
    Seek immediate medical attention if
    magnets are swallowed or inhaled.

    It says right on the little plastic container that this isn't for children. The cardboard retail box gets torn up and thrown away, so I can understand a label on that *possibly* not being enough. The inner plastic cube is pretty explicit too, though.

    There are a handful of stupid people somewhere out there, so bureaucrats close down a business that I like and decide that I can't have something that is of no risk to me or anyone around me. Gotta love this world we live in.

  13. Re:If your #1 product kills children, you fail by ZorinLynx · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's not the fault of the product when parents don't supervise their children and allow them to eat random household objects.

    And I realize its not easy. Parenting is hard. If you're not up for it, don't have kids.

    This is an adult product. It says it on the box. It shouldn't be required to meet child toy standards.

  14. Re:If your #1 product kills children, you fail by RenderSeven · · Score: 4, Informative
    I will pass that epiphany on to General Motors for you. Buckyball fatalities: 0, auto fatalities: ~40,000 per year.

    Oh, wait, now you say 'I meant injuries not deaths'. OK lets play that one:

    There are approximately 2.2 million Buckyball magnet sets in circulation, and as each set has 216 magnets, there is a grand total of 475.2 million individual magnet pieces. This equals to approximately 1 injury per 100,000 Buckyball sets and less than 1 injury per 21.5 million individual magnet pieces.

    Dogs are statistically over 120 times more dangerous
    Tennis injuries are 1,228 times more dangerous
    Soccer, Cheerleading, poisoning through common household chemicals are all over 1,000 times more dangerous.
    Skateboarding is 890 times more dangerous.
    Pools, cars, kitchen knives, firearms, balloons, snowblowers are all statistically more dangerous than Buckyball magnets.

    That is a LOT of fails by your criteria. Yet where is the CPSC outrage on dogs, racquets, soccer balls, draino, skateboards, pool life jackets, ginsu knifes, and so on?

  15. Re:Lies, Lies and More Lies by sed+quid+in+infernos · · Score: 4, Informative

    They added the warnings the agency asked them to. Do a bit of research before accusing people of lying. For more than two years, the packages have had strong warnings as required by the CPSC.