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John McAfee Accused of Murder, Wanted By Belize Police
New submitter thn writes "John McAfee, who started the antivirus software giant named after him, has been accused of murder in Belize and is wanted. McAfee had taken to 'posting on a drug-focused Russian message board...about his attempts to purify the psychoactive compounds colloquially known as "bath salts,"' Gizmodo wrote. The scariest aspect of this story may be the fact that an entire lab was constructed for John McAfee's research purposes. Because of his efforts to extract chemicals from natural chemical plans McAfee was able to justify his experiments in a country that is largely unregulated."
I can't wait for the movie to come out!
He already murdered my computer with his insanely slow Security Suite.
FTA: Update 1:37 p.m. PT To include additional information from CBS that indicates McAfee is not wanted for the killing of Gregory Faull as Gizmodo previously reported but is only wanted for questioning at this time.
So is his company then going the way of ReiserFS?
Looks like this story has the potential to go....
*sunglasses*
Viral.
Yeeeeeeeaaaaahhhhhh!
Running a rather boring software company to description like some sort of supervillain, thats quite a transition.
Dear god let his compound contain an active volcano lair.
You make a good point. Other sources are picking up the story, but they all come back to Gizmodo. Can it be? Did Gawker *gasp* actually get a scoop on something?
As reported on Slashdot here ? I wonder if they were tracking him down back then for posession of a Luger 9mm.
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After actually RTFA'ing the whole thing, and not just the first paragraph, it looks like this might be also a lot about the story of a drug abuser falling prey to some subtle secondary effects of his drug of choice. If he was as keen on experimenting with bath salts and other psychotropic drugs as he seems to be, I fully would expect him to lose it at some point. Who knows if he actually committed the murder - but there's all kinds of other lessons in here.
Those who can, do. Those who can't, sue.
These guns found in the McAfee place and this Luger 9mm do have similarities to the untrained eye.
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Because of his efforts to extract chemicals from natural chemical plans McAfee was able to justify his experiments in a country that is largely unregulated."
Err... what? What's meant by "natural chemical plans" here? And why would he have to justify his experiments if the country is largely unregulated?
systemd is Roko's Basilisk.
FTA:
apparent gunshot wound on the upper rear part of his head
apparently dead
The local CSI team is verifying the facts
The specific properties of the drugs he was attempting to isolate also fit in well with what those closest to him have reported: that he is an enthusiastic amateur pharmacologist with a longstanding interest in drugs that induce sexual behavior in women. Indeed, former friends of McAfee have said he could be extremely persistent and devious in trying to coerce women who rebuff his advances to have sex with him.
You see ladies, what we male nerds have to turn to? Stop being so uptight.
Look, its another person twisting Libertarianism in to something it isn't so it sounds unpleasent to people who don't know any better.
Looks like you've got your work cut out for you, because what most of my self-described Libertarian friends say would fit right into this stereotype. I.e., indistinguishable from pure anarchy. Basing that on the 2 most of-repeated "Libertarian" maxims:
A) Government Regulation is Evil. Admittedly if you corner them, you can usually get a self-described Libertarian to confess that there's room for regulation, but when operating on auto-pilot they tend to forget to mention that. There's no clearly-defined ground rules for us outsiders to understand.
B) Taxes are Theft. Because apparently whatever government functions are admissible under Libertarianism are funded by the fairies. A belief also promoted liberally in recent years by the Conservative crowd who took the "tax" out of tax-and-spend, but not the "spend".
There's you a starting point. It's up to you to take the ball and run with it. Have fun!
A Gawker Networks site got something wrong?
In a sensationalist fashion?
SHOCKING.
Seriously, why does everyone still put up with those fucktards? Their level of incompetence has crossed from believable to they-must-be-doing-it-on-purpose-for-page-hits.
Please help metamoderate.
ReiserFS - For when you need to partition your wife.
And the link between the murder, and bath-salts is.... The hysteria in the U.S. over recreational drug use is amazing. For example, all the news stories about Johnny Lewis mentioned police speculation that he was on the drug "smiles" when he went berserk, despite there being no evidence whatseover of this. e.g. http://abcnews.go.com/US/actor-johnny-lewis-suspected-taking-drug-smiles-killings/story?id=17346564 Time and time again, these speculative drug links make a big splash in the media, and then by the time they prove false, no one cares. I would have thought Slashdot was a bit more into looking at the evidence before making wild speculation, but apparently not.
Deconstruct the State
Seems like all political extremists share the same methodology.
What qualifies as 'extreme' is subjective.
But of course, this is likely not limited to just 'extremists'. People generally don't want to be wrong, after all. Then of course there is the fact that people who really, really don't like something would probably want to blame everything that goes wrong on the thing that they don't like.
Filthy, filthy copyrapists!
{partial sarcasm}Well that is the problem with Open Source software when the creator stops being involved in the product the product in essence dies and goes on the waste side, as there is a loss of interest in the product. While commercial apps have teams of people and if it makes money it will continue on with the loss of it leader and it can even move from company to company{/partial sarcasm}
Sarcasm aside, Not necessarily.
With Open Source (FOSS, FLOSS - whatever you want to call it) if the creator stops being involved, the community behind it can pick it up. If there isn't enough community interest, then it falls by the wayside, but then it was either too early or not interesting enough.
With Commercial, if the business has a problem (e.g. the CEO gets indicted) and goes under, or is in serious question; then there is no one else to turn to. Your saving grace would be if someone bought it out and continued the product, but there's no guarantee that will happen and most companies won't want to toss the financial resources to buy the company if they don't think the product is worth it - e.g. there's a cheaper alternative.
For Hans and ReiserFS, RFS4 got continued by the community, but its still problematic and will now never make it to the mainline kernel. For McAfee, well, there's a sufficiently large corportate entity that nothing will happen - it'll go on, and if necessary change its name to avoid bad associated publicity due to any trial or bad outcome for Mr. McAfee.
Truth is like the sun. You can shut it out for a time, but it ain't goin' away. - Elvis Presley (source: imdb.com)
Why might the scariest part of the story be that he built a lab?
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The specific properties of the drugs he was attempting to isolate also fit in well with what those closest to him have reported: that he is an enthusiastic amateur pharmacologist with a longstanding interest in drugs that induce sexual behavior in women. Indeed, former friends of McAfee have said he could be extremely persistent and devious in trying to coerce women who rebuff his advances to have sex with him.
I wonder how much of this article is true. Sounds like a total douche.
Now let's not jump to conclusions here, maybe he was only doing research into detecting and terminating zombie processes.
Jeez - I knew this guy. For me this is what makes this story incredibly interesting.
He used to frequent a fairly small yoga class in Aptos about 10 years ago with his wife at the time. I remember he brought in a bunch of yoga books which he wrote and gave copies to everybody. I didn't know he was the McAfee guy at first but he seemed like an interesting person.
He later suffered from the local small-town rumor mill for something he did that I didn't pay attention to.
But this story is astounding to me! It reads like a gangster movie script.
A) Government Regulation is Evil. Admittedly if you corner them, you can usually get a self-described Libertarian to confess that there's room for regulation, but when operating on auto-pilot they tend to forget to mention that. There's no clearly-defined ground rules for us outsiders to understand.
B) Taxes are Theft. Because apparently whatever government functions are admissible under Libertarianism are funded by the fairies. A belief also promoted liberally in recent years by the Conservative crowd who took the "tax" out of tax-and-spend, but not the "spend".
It's only crazy if you take a geeky "black or white, all or nothing" view of these things - which admittedly many Libartarians do. Regulation is evil and taxes are theft, sure; that;s means we try to solve problems with the least regulation and taxation that actually solves the problem. That's quite a bit of taxes and regulation, actually. But seeking a solution that minimizes both, out of many possible solutions, is still a valid goal.
Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
Are you asserting the defining body for a term is an organization bearing the same name? Then "democracy" means "whatever is on the Democrat's platform" and republican government means one ruled by Republicans, right?
Learn to love Alaska
The reason reiserFS went the way it did is because nobody around understands it the way Hans did (mathematically) that can also do the programming work...
Eh, no. The thing you may not realize is that Hans Reiser wasn't even the primary author on later versions. He hired Russian programmers willing to work cheap, and seemed focused on being The Globetrotting Wheeling Dealing Genius In Charge rather than coding anything himself. Also, this lone genius mythology about ReiserFS possessing some kind of ineffable brilliance which only Reiser could understand needs to go away. Plenty of people understood every single concept in ReiserFS.
Calm down everyone. You're all confusing three distinct phenomena: classic libertarianism, an inconsequential modern political third party, and the contemporary mainstream Randian wannabe sociopolitical movement of the same name that at best is nothing more than a reactionary coalition of political, social, and civic amateurs, some of which are actual liberal pro-legalization college kids that think they are brilliant scholars because they got an A in poli-sci and soc, and in-fact sociopolitical conservative moralists that are anti-tax because they either fear their money going to welfare or are borderline confederacy-seeking states rightists that want a Fed so small they can drown it in a bathtub. Add in a dash of actual anarcho-capitalist industrialists and entrepreneurs and crazed gold standard pushers of alternative currencies for flavor. By and large, the libertarian movement as it is popularized today is a caricature of the original libertarian movement, but populated by low information people that don't read enough, that get all their news from pundits, and who only recently in the last 8 years have taken a real interest in domestic policy and macroeconomics. To put it simply, they don't know what they don't know.
To put it another way, I have recently in the last decade taken a refreshed interest in physics after sleep walking through it as a student and a professional. But, much of my new learning comes from advocacy sources like Michio Kaku. I enjoy doing fun things with magnets and lasers. My teleportation machine is awesome, but I assure you, none of you should use it no matter how much I tell you I've worked out all the kinks because I'm a physics tourist and my input should be taken as if it came from an enthusiastic child that still believes in Santa.
AnaCap
If by that you mean Anarcho-Capitalist, you should go outside and hang yourself from a tree. There is no legitimate crossover between the philosophical ideas of Anarchism and those of Capitalism. They are two different things that libertarians try to yoke together to make their beliefs sound more radical and less based on pure economic and ethical selfishness by grafting on the Anarcho- part.
If you want a society where brute economic power reigns through the imaginary "free market" then just have the guts to say so. You want a return to Nineteenth Century Capitalism? Just fucking admit it. Don't try to pretend you've got some bold, noble liberty-based alternative to the present, clearly imperfect system.
To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
Taxes that do not benefit me are theft. The government exists to serve the people. Taking my money and giving it to someone else, so that it does not benefit me is theft. Taking my money and using it for purposes that do benefit me is OK.
And this is where the essential sociooathy of libertarianism is exposed. As a society, most normal people think it good that the old, poor, ill or otherwise disadvantaged are provided for in some way. We also think it is a good idea to have roads, power grids, clean water and so on available to everyone. Having a justice system and police force is a good idea too, to protect the weak and vulnerable from the strong and ruthless. Giving everyone a good education helps to promote general well being, prosperity and happiness.
And so on.
There are many more important things than some rrich cock's ability to spend all his money on buying new yachts if he feels like it. Society as a whole trumps the individual, or else you should just admit you have no interest in deomocracy.
To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
Once again, you demonstrate your complete inability to read and respond to what was written.
I am asserting that in no way, shape, or form, is Belize a "libertarian paradise," and any attempt to paint it as such is a foolish bit of sleight of hand that tries to define "libertarianism" as "anything that I think is foolish or want to make fun of."
Perhaps, since you seem to take issue with my statement, you can explain for us just what makes Belize the "libertarian paradise" you imagine it is? I mean, surely you're not just making this shit up as you go - surely you know ALL ABOUT Belize's government & their policies, and can tell us exactly how the Belize model fits exactly what libertarians everywhere are advocating?
The point about Belize is not that it fits in with some theoretical libertarian model of paradise, it's simply that it's the sort of country where if you're a rich cunt you can get away with a lot. And to those of us opposed to libertarian politics that is precisely what a libertarian system would lead to, even more than is the case at present.
To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
Ah gotcha. So you strawman it so you can hate it. Glad we got a handle on that.