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Secession Petitions Flood White House Website

Posted by samzenpus on from the we're-leaving dept.

First time accepted submitter RNLockwood writes "Political.com reports that several petitions to secede from the Union have been created at the White House site, We The People, for many states; all since Obama's re-election. Texas and Louisiana lead the list with Texas needing only 7,000 more signatures to qualify for a White House response, probably less now as more Americans have become aware of the petitions. It would be interesting to see a comparison done of these petitions and the Post Election Racist Tweets Map."

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  1. If there was a Bad at Math Map... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ..you'd find these states well ranked.

    Secession is an economically unviable option. If you want copious analyses ask the Quebec'ers.

    We in the US seem to have a hard time admitting when we are wrong. Mitt was a dreadful choice for a conservative presidential candidate. Obama's winning the election was not a sign that the poor Texans are oppressed. They simply picked a moderate who had to pivot to the right of Rick Perry to win the primaries, and then back to the center to have a chance in the final election. I don't think anyone could have done that job any better than Mitt did, but even with 3 to 1 outspending of their opponents it wasn't enough. I sent my $100 to Buddy Roemer to try to get an honest man into the race, and honesty lost.

    So, please quit your whining and next time pick an actuall conservative. Pick someone with a tax plan that adds up, low spending, little war-lust, and who understands what a disaster the "personhood" amendment would be, and then you'll have a race.

    1. Re:If there was a Bad at Math Map... by h4rr4r · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If you pay attention to what they have been doing recently they made that choice. They are firmly going with social conservatism and spending like a sailor on shore leave. Sadly they want to do that last part and cut taxes at the same time.

    2. Re:If there was a Bad at Math Map... by mbkennel · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "Pick someone with a tax plan that adds up, low spending, little war-lust, and who understands what a disaster the "personhood" amendment would be, and then you'll have a race."

      Sorry, but Bill Clinton is not eligible to run.

    3. Re:If there was a Bad at Math Map... by SimonTheSoundMan · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Mitt was a dreadful choice for a conservative presidential candidate.

      Romney was a far right conservative presidential candidate, Obama is not "moderate" at all as he is a right wing conservative.

      What is bad is America had no left wing candidate at all.

      We're going how the rest of the world define political spectrum, not America.

    4. Re:If there was a Bad at Math Map... by mbkennel · · Score: 5, Insightful

      | Iran has strong religious values, and gas at 50 cents a gallon and the most polluted capital city anywhere.

      That is what they wish for.

    5. Re:If there was a Bad at Math Map... by Art+Popp · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Fair enough. It was an incomplete pivot. In the debates he went right-of-Perry on immigration but wasn't more radical than most of the stage.

      But, again, what can you do. You don't want to appear to be an Etch-a-Sketch, but you have to in a split-brained party if you want all their votes. Pleasing the corporations ruins the budgets valued by decent conservatives, pleasing the decent conservatives, irks the religeous zealots. The guy was asked to swim in air. I've no pity for the amount of deceit he employed in this process, but it looked like a pretty impossible job.

    6. Re:If there was a Bad at Math Map... by MozeeToby · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This election wasn't just about Obama vs Romney, I would argue that wasn't even the most important race taking place, especially given that anyone objective enough to look at actual polling data knew the conclusion before the first ballot was caste on the 6th. If I were a republican, I'd be more worried about the number of senate races they lost. I'd be more worried about the fact that they lost the popular vote if you add up all the house races (only maintaining a 40 seat lead in the house thanks to a metric shit-ton of gerrymandering in 2010). I'd be more worried that 60% of voters think that taxes should go up for the richest people and only 35% thought that taxes shouldn't go up for anyone. And that 65% of voters think there should be a path to legal residency for illegal immigrants.

      And if I were a social conservative, I'd be terrified that 60% of voters in this election think that abortion should be legal for all circumstances. And that more people think same sex marriage should be recognized than not (49% to 46%). Not to mention that Wisconsin (of all places) just elected the first openly gay senator.

      Things are changing the US. It wasn't just that Romney was unlikable, it wasn't just that he had to pander to the base to get elected. Over the past 8 years conservative, republican positions have become more and more untenable to the majority of voters.

    7. Re:If there was a Bad at Math Map... by metrometro · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Seriously. I voted for the guy who said he's end the wars and raise taxes, because there's a deficit, yo. The guy who implemented the Heritage Foundation's plan for healthcare, which was based on the idea of individual responsibility paired with a fair and transparent dealing from the insurers. The guy who overthrew the Libyan government under force of arms with four American fatalities, and didn't do the same in Syria because he thought it was too risky. Oh, and he's on the right side on the inclusion of gays, women(!?), immigrants and host of other basic-human-freedom issues that used to be considered part of the conservative promise.

      We need a conservative party in this country, and I'm not sure the GOP is going to be it. I think the best thing you could do as a conservative in this country is start electing Greens and then plan to be a Democrat for the next 50 years.

    8. Re:If there was a Bad at Math Map... by mark-t · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The only reason that they don't have any chance of winning is because everybody thinks that they don't have any chance of winning, and so a vote for one of them is a wasted vote that could better go to a candidate that has a chance of winning that is the lesser of the two evils.

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    9. Re:If there was a Bad at Math Map... by runeghost · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I wish people would quit using the word "insolvent" in relation to the federal debt. The United States government can print as many dollars as it wants or needs. While there are significant downsides to the U.S. printing it's way out of debt, it can be done. Thus, the U.S. is by definition not insolvent. If the United States defaults on its debt, it's because the government (or the people running the government) choose to do so.

    10. Re:If there was a Bad at Math Map... by s4m7 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Imagine the message sent to both parties if Stein, or Johnson handed Obama a loss.

      You mean like when Nader handed Gore a loss in 2000?

      The lesson the Republicans learned was "we have a mandate" and proceeded to pursue a decade of self-destructive jingoistic policy they still haven't recovered from. The lesson the Democrats learned was "don't get Nadered again."

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  2. 7000 more needed for a response by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Response:

    No.

  3. Now's our chance! by ChinggisK · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Quick! Someone make a "Let Texas and Louisiana Secede" petition!

  4. The likely response: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Blow it out your ass. We survived Bush, you can survive Obama. Grow the fuck up.

  5. Let them go. by bmo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Being a resident of New England, I'm tired of paying for their highways and such while they accuse us here as being Un-American.

    For fucks sake. Leave already.

    What I found especially amusing was the tea-tard messages claiming people would high-tail it to Canada if Obama got re-elected. Yeah, the country next door with single-payer health insurance, decent social security, more gun regulation, etc.

    Go. Go to Canada.

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  6. succession = racism? by Bodhammer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So succession = racism? Does the OP work for MSNBC and Chris "Tingles" Matthews?

    A fundamental disagreement with the government policies does not automatically equal racism but of course you are free to perpetuate that myth...

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    "I say we take off, nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure."
  7. Oh, Please. This Happens EVERY Election by medv4380 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When Clinton was Elected there was crying about Secession from Conservatives, like all of Texas. When Bush was elected there was crying about Secession from Liberals , like all of California. Just Get Over It, you Lost. Try again next time. Your Princess is In Another Castle.