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BeOS Clone Haiku Releases R1 Alpha 4

New submitter kallisti5 writes "The Haiku project released their 4th alpha release today. A year and four months have passed since the 3rd alpha release. Haiku R1A4 includes several enhancements such as a large number of bug fixes, early IPv6 support, better drivers, improved file system support, better localization, and a wide variety of new features and applications." Multimedia enhancements include support for modern Intel and Radeon HD cards.

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  1. By the time version 1 arrives, in 10 years ... by Taco+Cowboy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... and nobody will remember what "Haiku" or "BeOS" is all about.

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    1. Re:By the time version 1 arrives, in 10 years ... by origin2k · · Score: 5, Funny

      Be is gone so sad
      Haiku is here so no fear
      Bits and bytes take time

    2. Re:By the time version 1 arrives, in 10 years ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      the slashdot racists
      trolling with small endowment
      go back to 4chan

    3. Re:By the time version 1 arrives, in 10 years ... by lucmove · · Score: 4, Funny

      In 10 years, nobody will remember what "Haiku" or "BeOS" is all about.

      ...unlike today, when hordes of people know what "Haiku" and "BeOS" are all about. Right?

    4. Re:By the time version 1 arrives, in 10 years ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      O.S. philistine
      can't count haiku syllables
      so his verse is fail

    5. Re:By the time version 1 arrives, in 10 years ... by aliquis · · Score: 2

      Legion of the undead?

      We have that in the Amiga camp to. :D

    6. Re:By the time version 1 arrives, in 10 years ... by UltraZelda64 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Haiku has been making excellent progress over the last couple of years compared to another clone, ReactOS. Haiku is actually quite usable as it is and pretty stable. In fact, I'd say its stability gives Win9x and even most Windows XP installations I've seen a run for their money. I don't mess with Windows any more since XP, but I do know at least one person who kept getting program crashed and BSODs in Vista and he still gets them occasionally in 7. ReactOS, by comparison, feels like a pre-alpha at best, or an old Win9x release at the worst. As far as reaching R1 goes, I don't think there'll be anywhere near 10 years of waiting... the OS feels pretty good as it is already.

    7. Re:By the time version 1 arrives, in 10 years ... by Pieroxy · · Score: 2

      Giving Win9x a run for its money in terms of stability is almost an insult. The thing barely booted up !

      XP is another matter.

  2. Re:Does it run on real hardware? by Osgeld · · Score: 2

    runs pretty good on my pentium 1

  3. In future news by viperidaenz · · Score: 5, Funny

    I just got back from a trip in my DeLorean and in 2017 Haiku Release R1 Beta 1 was announced.

  4. Re:NO ONE GIVES A FUCK!!!! by Scarletdown · · Score: 5, Funny

    fuck you geek faggots.

    Go ahead and continue. You got the format correct for the first line. Now you need to come up with 2 more lines for your entry to be complete.

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  5. Re:Hoping for a light GPL-free desktop by Bradmont · · Score: 2

    Why GPL-free? How does having, say, the Linux kernel, under the GPL affect an end user?

  6. Re:NO ONE GIVES A FUCK!!!! by Scarletdown · · Score: 3, Funny

    Yes, that would work. We can make a world class poet out of Mr. Ballmer yet.

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  7. BeOS looked cool by King-Raz · · Score: 2

    BeOS was a good looking interface - for its time. Now it (and by extension Haiku) looks rather dated by comparison with modern GUIs (especially when you look at the lovely looking things that Apple, or google with its Android project buttery loveliness create.

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  8. Haiku will be Linux for the desktop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You naysayers can feel free to call me crazy, but Haiku has a better chance at winning the desktop than Linux ever did. It is exactly the kind of coherent and elegantly designed platform that is as attractive to users as it is to developers. Haiku has been a slow starter, so it may take a while to happen unless more devs start to look at the prospect of seriously contributing to it. But the truth is, quality takes time. The Linux approach of "code first, ask questions later" does get things done faster. The desktop is just one of those cases where better will always beat faster in the long run.

    1. Re:Haiku will be Linux for the desktop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      The reason for the outdated interface is that Haiku R1 is going to be strictly an attempt to clone BeOS. That was always the stated goal of the project. R2 on the other hand, will be the version where the Haiku team really focuses on building upon what they have to create something better. That being said, the internals of Haiku are already fairly robust and capable, and have advanced well beyond the capabilities of BeOS. I think that once R1 is complete and the internals are solid and stable, the road to 2.0 will be a much shorter one.

  9. Re:Hoping for a light GPL-free desktop by jc42 · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you're trying to develop a commercial product, best make sure it has no GPL code in it.

    I think you mean: If you're trying to develop a commercial product by stealing others' code and claiming it's your own, best make sure it has no GPL code in it.

    GPL code has no legal problems that aren't much larger if you base your work on someone else's proprietary code. GPL merely legalizes your "stealing", but says you must then permit others to "steal" your code as well. With proprietary code, anything you do with it is illegal.

    Not that this matters much to the users, who mostly don't ever write any code, much less attempt to sell it.

    (There's a long tradition in technical circles of taking insults and turning them into technical jargon. And there's the old saying that copying from one person is plagiarism, but copying from many is research. ;-)

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  10. Re:Does it run on real hardware? by Whiteox · · Score: 2

    Luxury! I've just upgraded from an SX to a DX!

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  11. Re:Hoping for a light GPL-free desktop by 91degrees · · Score: 2

    I think you mean: If you're trying to develop a commercial product by stealing others' code and claiming it's your own, best make sure it has no GPL code in it.

    Why is the attitude that copyright infrigement is stealing tolerated so much more here when applied to the GPL than file sharing?

  12. Re:Hoping for a light GPL-free desktop by serviscope_minor · · Score: 3

    a) the GPL is considered pretty evil by lawyers.

    ITYM: the GPL is considered pretty evil by incompetent lawyers. It's good that way. If your lawyer has an irrational fear of the GPL, the fire the lawyer since it's clear you've wound up with a duff one.

    If you're trying to develop a commercial product, best make sure it has no GPL code in it.

    Like RHEL, IBM, Android, Linksys, and frankly, thousands of others. That's an excellent model to follow.

    Oh you said avoid GPL. Right.

    b) some people hate Richard Stallman even more than they hate Steve Ballmer.

    Well, if people are going to make strange, irrational decisions based on strange, irrational assumptions about a person they've never met and who has little if anything to do with what they're using, then they get what they deserve.

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  13. Re:Hoping for a light GPL-free desktop by tehcyder · · Score: 2

    You have just made up a totally arbitrary distinction between copyright infringement on works you don't care about (copying Rihanna's songs) and copyright infringement on works you do care about (GPL software).

    In both cases, the worse offence of making money off the copyright infringement still only arises because you have infringed on copyright. Plagiarism is nothing to do with it.

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  14. Re:Hoping for a light GPL-free desktop by jellomizer · · Score: 2

    The key advantage to Commercial Software is you tend to know what the motives are for the software maker. To Make money.

    For Open Source they have a lot of different motives.
    Gain Experience, Give their Ego's a boost, Trying to give back to the community, Sell additional services later...

    That is the problem, I agree Making money isn't the most noble cause in the world, however if you realize that is the game they are playing you as the consumer can use it to your advantage, because you can always say No I will not buy that unless you do X for me. When there are a different set of motives you get an inconsistent experience working the GNU software suppliers. Some will be great and you get software far better than with commercial. But you also get the people who will not do anything to help you (Write your own damn patch) because they are not interested in the end user at all.

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