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CyanogenMod Domain Hijacked

An anonymous reader writes "The team behind CyanogenMod, one of the most popular community-driven, Android-based operating systems for phones and tablets, has announced that they're moving to Cyanogenmod.org after their .com domain was held ransom by a community member. He had been in control of the .com domain name for some time, but the team found out he was impersonating Cyanogen to make deals with community sites. When they removed his access to other parts of the CM infrastructure, he demanded $10,000 to relinquish control of the domain and threatened to change the DNS entries. When they refused to pay, he went through with it. The team is now disputing control of the domain with ICANN. They said, 'We will continue to be open about the what, when, how, but unfortunately, we may never know the "why" – though greed comes to mind. The team itself has not made a profit off of CM and that is not our goal. But to have one of our own betray the community like this is beyond our comprehension.'"

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  1. Nice guy! by Threni · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sounds like a real asshole. Enjoy the domain why you can - it'll be taken from you, or it'll be rendered worthless when the responsible adults get their own domain. Either way it's worthless.

    1. Re:Nice guy! by Kenja · · Score: 2

      Sure, he's a jerk. But he cant really hold something he owns hostage. This is often the issue with community organizations. Without proper structure you end up with some random member owning chunks of the system.

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    2. Re:Nice guy! by KiloByte · · Score: 5, Funny

      this is why I use apple - you never know who hijacked a domain and is now serving malicous software packages.

      Judging from stories here on /. and elsewhere, indeed apple.com is serving malicious software packages through its app store.

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    3. Re:Nice guy! by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Sure, he's a jerk. But he cant really hold something he owns hostage.

      There's no utility in "owning" a listing in a public directory for an organization that you're not a part of beyond misrepresenting yourself and deceiving the public. If the existing rules don't recognize that, that doesn't that we need to distort reality and pretend that what he's doing is perfectly right and good, it means that means the rules need to be fixed.

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    4. Re:Nice guy! by Charliemopps · · Score: 5, Informative

      He's just trying to reenforce the stereotype that all apple users are uninformed, arrogant douche bags that will take any opportunity to pop the brand name "Apple" into a conversation.

    5. Re:Nice guy! by screwdriver · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Cyanogenmod is not an official Android release. You can't get it from the google store, it has to be installed on a device that you've rooted. If you jailbreak your iPod, expect similar results if you download unofficial unsigned apps.

  2. Scumbag by bigwheel · · Score: 2, Insightful

    A real community member would be proud to shell out the 10 bucks for the domain name nenewal and donate it back to the project.

  3. Defamation of trademarks can be a criminal matter by sg_oneill · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Whoever this community member is, he needs to be very very careful about what he's doing. Many countries hold that malicious hijacking of trademarks or implied trademarks to be a criminal rather than merely civil matter. Ie if you go to a company or organization and maliciously register their trademark to fuck them over, you can expect a policeman at your door with a warrant.

    This happens quite regularly, and it rarely turns out as happily as the malicious party expected.

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  4. Please out the guy by Freshly+Exhumed · · Score: 3, Funny

    Benedict Judas Quisling is unable to take your call at this moment, but if you leave your site name he'll remove it from DNS as soon as possible.

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  5. It'll be worth rather a lot, actually by Rix · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Even just putting up a standard ad landing page would generate income, there.

    We'll see if ICANN just brings down the hammer for powerful corporations here.

  6. Re:Surprised it was available by Venotar · · Score: 2

    They did mention "filing charges". IANAL, and I doubt Steve is either. If I were in his shoes, I'd be hesitant to publish clearly identifying details until I'd consulted an attorney.

  7. Already Fixed? by MozeeToby · · Score: 2

    I tried going to cyanogenmod.com and got redirected to cyanogenmod.org. Maybe someone realized that what he was doing wasn't just unethical, but also most likely illegal.

    1. Re:Already Fixed? by wile_e8 · · Score: 3, Informative
      From TFA:

      “Hi, so you think by removing all my access across the infrastructure was going to be a great idea? We had a chat yesterday, you’ve decided to end this bitter. How about I just change the DNS entries right now. CM will practically go down.”

      Refusing to be extorted for funds, and then being threatened is “ending it bitter”? Today, it happened: all of our records were deleted, and cyanogenmod.com is slowly expiring out of the Internet and being replaced by blank pages and non-existing sites.

      (emphasis mine)

      Not fixed, just hasn't been broken yet for a steadily decreasing number of people.

    2. Re:Already Fixed? by megrims · · Score: 4, Informative
  8. Re:Defamation of trademarks can be a criminal matt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This guy is in England... the country where you get arrested for posting a photo of a burning paper flower on facebook.

  9. Re:Surprised it was available by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 3

    Yup. I'm 90% positive about who it is, but I'm not going to ask or discuss it with the rest of the team to ensure noninterference with legal proceedings.

    I am, however, planning on talking with some lawyer friends on advice for setting up a 501(c)(3) organization.

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  10. Re:Surprised it was available by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 3, Informative
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  11. They saw it coming by sphix42 · · Score: 2

    Domain Name:CYANOGENMOD.ORG
    Created On:21-Oct-2010 18:09:32 UTC

    It's the responsibility of any person responsible for a project to ensure a backup domain(s) is available in the case the domain owner become estranged from the project.

    A good example of proper planning.

  12. This would seem to be the guy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is the first whois data from that domain 3 years ago:

    Administrative Contact:
    Deveci, Ahmet webmaster@metserve.com
    Third Floor
    152-156 Lower Clapton Road
    Clapton, London E5 0QJ
    GB
    +442081232629

    1. Re:This would seem to be the guy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      His Twitter, with relevant comments:

      https://twitter.com/MrADeveci

    2. Re:This would seem to be the guy by blind+biker · · Score: 4, Funny

      Deveci, Ahmet webmaster@metserve.com
      Third Floor
      152-156 Lower Clapton Road
      Clapton, London E5 0QJ
      GB
      +442081232629

      Please do not call that phonenumber now, because it's very late in the evening in the UK, and if you call that number, you could cause serious annoyance to Ahmet.

      Especially don't call it repeatedly, and above all, do not make prank calls.

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  13. Name and shame again and again. by couchslug · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Whenever the subject is brought up, it would be appropriate to NAME the perp and note his background info.

    No libel, no slander, just sufficient identification that anyone considering teaming with this fellow can make a fully informed decision.

    It's not revenge, just self-defense.

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    1. Re:Name and shame again and again. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
    2. Re:Name and shame again and again. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Ahmet's page is here: https://plus.google.com/u/0/116028512018932696380

      He works for MetServe Enterprises http://www.metserve.com/ whose site is currently down - strangely :)
      Which makes this post ironic: https://plus.google.com/u/0/117025707475158348263/posts/W68Z3GyCmce

    3. Re:Name and shame again and again. by madsci1016 · · Score: 2

      His Twitter: https://twitter.com/MrADeveci He's claiming misunderstanding. Anyone buy it? Anyone?

    4. Re:Name and shame again and again. by vinehair · · Score: 2, Insightful

      He's just blocking people on Twitter now (myself included.) I usually find 'you don't understand what's going on' with no attempt to educate to be an excuse used by the guilty party. The fact that he later said on said twitter feed that 'he owns the domain name' seems to solidly imply that he is guilty of this dick move, and he thought he's morally in the right to do what he did because of it.

    5. Re:Name and shame again and again. by Opportunist · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'd love to hear both sides, but if one side just says "The other side is wrong" without telling me what happened in their view, I kinda doubt said side.

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    6. Re:Name and shame again and again. by darkmeridian · · Score: 5, Informative

      He claims that he has transferred it back to CM:

      "Ahmet Deveci8:22 PM - Public
      For the record, regarding: cyanogenmod.com

      Following the saga from : http://www.cyanogenmod.org/blog/psa-transition-to-cyanogenmod-org it would appear that I have been labelled a 'thief' an 'extortionist' a 'liar' and a bunch of other somewhat degrading comments.

      The domain name has since been transferred to the CM Team, but I wanted to make a few things clear.

      I purchased the CyanogenMod.com domain name 3 years ago and have been responsible for the renewal fees ever since. This means I (my company) legally owned the domain name. It was fully registered in the United Kingdom. I hear people saying about âtrademarkâ(TM). Yes, CyanogenMod is now a registered trademark in the US. But the domain was registered in the UK well before that trademark. I donâ(TM)t want to get into any legal battles here, but US trademarkâ(TM)s are not valid in the UK unless they are registered here with the IPO.

      The term 'hi-jacked' is just wrong, the domain name was always in my control. I didn't hijack anything. I initiated a transfer out process with my registrar today who restored the DNS entries to their own. This in turn deleted all MX entries and other records. The term 'hi-jacked' has just derived from tech blogs creating stories for link bait.

      The term 'extortion' is also wrong. If I was out for the money, why an earth would I have transferred the domain to the CM Team for free?"

      https://plus.google.com/116028512018932696380/posts

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    7. Re:Name and shame again and again. by Kwyj1b0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Did you not read the summary or did you recently get a lobotomy? The summary clearly lays out the dick moves he pulled. Nothing in his lame excuse drivel clears any of that shit up other than saying other people are wrong.

      And who submitted the entry? An AC. And with the high editorial standards at slashdot, I'm sure they did a thorough investigation and fact-checking before posting.

      As to the fact that his excuses were lame - that is exactly what the previous poster said. So congratulations on missing the whole point (while implying he/she is an idiot).

    8. Re:Name and shame again and again. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      They have no legal leg to stand on in regards to legal action. As he said, he registered the domain, he paid for it, etc... Legally, he had every right to do with the domain as he pleased.

    9. Re:Name and shame again and again. by Ginger+Unicorn · · Score: 3, Interesting

      None of this explains away the allegation that he was impersonating a CyanogenMod developer to fraudulently establish commercial contracts.

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  14. Wait. Oh my god. by p0p0 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I only just now realized that the rom is called cyanogenmod and not cryogenmod. Christ, I've been calling it cryogenmod for over a year!

    1. Re:Wait. Oh my god. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      That's OK, I was calling those little cups of coffee "Expresso" for something like 3 years, until I realised what an idiot I was...

    2. Re:Wait. Oh my god. by alostpacket · · Score: 3, Informative

      Just wait 'till you find out what Cyanogen actually is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyanogen :)

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  15. Registrant info by Todd+Knarr · · Score: 3, Informative

    And this is why you make sure of who's listed as the registrant. Not just the administrative contact, the registrant is the one who owns the domain. You can set the billing, technical and administrative contacts to whoever needs to run things day-to-day, but make sure the registrant contact information's set for the organization, not one single person within it. That way when someone goes rogue you don't need to involve ICANN, you can just contact the registrar as the registrant and get control back. It's still hassle, but much less hassle than a dispute proceeding.

    1. Re:Registrant info by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

      You can try and setup a Nevada LLC. But unless you are a resident and it is the only state where business is conducted in the US, it is useless.

      Oregon and one other state, I forget which, will give you an LLC over the internet. This would be a much cooler comment if I could remember.

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  16. This all looks to now be resolved by kaptink · · Score: 5, Informative

    This all looks to now be resolved - http://www.cyanogenmod.org/blog/domain-situation-has-been-resolved

    From the cyanogenmod blog -

    (ciwrl wrote this, I’m just posting on his behalf so this is resolved)

    So earlier today we put up a post on what prompted us to transition to our new CyanogenMod.org domain. We refrained from identifying the ex-member out of respect for his privacy and career outside of CM. Suffice it to say you guys aren’t slouches, and figured it out on your own.

    With that said, the ex-member in question contacted us and has agreed to hand over control of the CyanogenMod.com domain. This was done as amicably as these things can be, and CM did not pay the fee he requested.

    We will still be using CyanogenMod.org as our primary domain, and the .com address will simply redirect to this new domain. Ironically enough, ‘.org’ is better than ‘.com’ as we are not a commercial entity, and is far more in line with how CyanogenMod is structured.

    We received a common question, that we’d like to take a moment to answer. Some of you contacted us mentioning that you had previously donated to a different address. When the forum began, up until about 3 months ago, the forum utilized this other address as the mechanism for forum donations and establishment of the ‘Donator’ badge. Donations made to this address prior to three months ago were used for the CyanogenMod forum IPB licence and forum related costs and were not misappropriated.

    On a side note, we have also gone through internal restructuring to make sure that this sort of thing doesn’t happen again. Nobody has control over everything, and there is no longer such a large single-point of failure. Our lessons have been learned.

    We ask that you please not perform any vigilante actions, we do not condone any such thing; just let this fade.

    We want to move on, get you the builds you expect from us, and not mess around with distractions.

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  17. Re:It's over, domain was given to the CM team by seandiggity · · Score: 2

    Yup, the CM team acknowledged the transfer to them too: http://www.cyanogenmod.org/blog/domain-situation-has-been-resolved

    ...not sure what the guy hoped to accomplish, but I assume he's regretting it now. Nothing gained but enmity.

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