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Website Calls Out Authors of Racist Anti-Obama Posts
stevegee58 writes "A tumblr blog entitled 'HelloThereRacists' is publicly identifying other online posters who make racist/assassination comments about President Obama. Beyond merely identifying online usernames, the blog's author is uncovering and publishing the real names and locations of offending posters. It's an interesting mess of legal issues. The outed posters are at risk of a Secret Service visit, but the trouble may not end there. The HelloThereRacists blogger himself may have some problems publicly identifying posters, who are frequently underage teenagers."
Update: 11/16 19:17 GMT by S : The blog has already been taken down.
Sounds like a good life's lesson before they'll face real consequences for their actions, and maybe their parents won't be able to continue to delude themselves about their childrens' behavior anymore.
Do not look into laser with remaining eye.
http://hellothereracists.tumblr.com/
salon just made a decent argument lambasting them for outing kids in a manner that could permanently stigmatize them as racists. Granted I think arresting the penchant for racism at a young age is a good idea, perhaps it would be more fruitful if the parents of the children were outed instead?
additionally, many of the posts come from regions of America that you would anticipate racism to emanate from. at very least it helps to dispel the often heralded myth by of the GOP that racism happened a long time ago and we don't need to talk about it, as they did during the Treyvon Martin murder. The south, as a touchstone example, while forced to integrate has never been forced to accept it socially.
Good people go to bed earlier.
Perhaps those kid's countries need a "democracy" import, just like Irak had
So who gets to decide the difference between a "racist" comment and a generally insulting comment?
Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr's famous "dream" was that [people] will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character." Many of Obama's critics are doing exactly that.
Disclaimer: I'm a halfhearted Obama supporter in the "lesser of two evils" sense.
[Sir Garlon] is the marvellest knight that is now living, for he destroyeth many good knights, for he goeth invisible.
FTA:
Oh, I guess that makes everything all right then.
The most racist comments by the most racist people always start with "I'm not racist, but..."
FTS:
This, and similar, statements are made in the article, but never explained or justified. There's nothing illegal or immoral about revealing the source of a quote, regardless of age.
Does the site also reveal the identities of people who post bigoted comments about well known conservatives?
Or is this another case where something is only a problem when it done by people with whom you disagree?
Here is a tweet from a supporter of the website:
This tumblr is fantastic, i hope people search these asshats out and hurt most if not all of them.
No doubt they fail to realize they are as bad as the people they criticize.
Freedom of speech absolutely does not imply freedom from consequences.
... does not guarantee freedom from responsibility.
So why isn't this blogger exposing the real identities of poster who made racist comments about Allen West and Mia Love?
sudo make me a sandwich
Free speech does not mean that there are no social consequences of that speech. I am not so sure I like what this guy is doing, but I'm inclined to think that he has the right to do it (as long as he breaks no reasonable privacy laws doing so).
Of course, he should also understand that there are consequences to what he does too. It's one thing to be a verbal racist against someone in a chat room, it's another thing to put someone's real name out there with the implication that perhaps someone should *do something* with that data. I mean, honestly, what does he expect people to do with that information but to get them harassed or trolled?
Interesting they don't call out Obama on his racist book "Dreams of My Father" he quotes in his own words and the racist "church" he attended for 20 years where he praised Jeremiah Wright. Oh, and how he attended Louis Farrakhan's (Jeremiah's Wrights close friend) racist rally... you know, the guy who says all white people are devils and said "Hitler was a very great man".
Nice double standard there. No, I don't see any bias or hypocrisy at all.
Will they also be outing the authors of all the tweets that threatened to assassinate Romney or riot and murder in general if Romney had won? Just curious.
you didn't read any of the tweets, did you?
I disagree with this website & they didn't "uncover" anything these people used their real names. While I'm against racism personally, people need to understand that tolerance works both ways. You can't on one hand say people should respect your views & then on the other not at least respect theirs.
If its a matter of public disclosure, they can always place the identity information on a web page protected with a password for use by law enforcement. Make the password 'password' and we'll call it good.
Have gnu, will travel.
Oops. Sorry about my racist title.
War is still good now.
If you put your information in a state is can be accessed then you deserve to be found. For those who really want to be racist, it was Bush not Obama who destroyed the US, looks like the white man destroyed his people again.
So you are free to say anything you want as long as your ok with consequences of the men in black suv's showing up and putting you down sans trial under patriot act anti terror legislation. But that's still free speach how exactly?
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As I was on it they took it down.
Below is what I get at http://hellothereracists.tumblr.com/
Not found.
We couldn't find the page you were looking for.
Tumblr pulled it?
Looks like http://hellothereracists.tumblr.com/ is already 'down' (returning a "Not found" message). I wonder if it was done voluntarily, or if Tumblr did it themselves.
LegendMUD
Another Obama love struck idiot.
What about all the threats made against others? Palin, Cain, Santorum, Romney, West, etc etc etc.
Annnd, it's gone already. Or it's gone at the moment.
Not clear if the author took it down, if this is an automated reaction to problem reports on Tumblr, or if Tumblr itself took it down for Reasons.
you're assuming the names of people published are accurate. if they are not then he could face a huge ton of legal issues.
It's nice that someone is doing this. People should be visibly held up for spreading hatred.
But where's the equivalent for bigotry and sexisim?
Read an article that included some stats from a national survey of college students.
One in four college women have either been raped or suffered attempted rape.
84 percent of the women who are raped knew their assailants.
57 percent of the rapes occurred on a date.
Women, ages 16-24, have four times higher risk of being raped than any other population group.
One in 12 male students surveyed had committed acts that met the legal definition of rape.
16 percent of male students who had committed rape took part in episodes with more than one attacker's gang rape.
75 percent of male students and 55 percent of female students involved in date rape had been drunk or using drugs.*
33 percent of males surveyed said that they would commit rape if they could escape detection.**
25 percent of men surveyed believed that rape was acceptable if the woman asks the man out, the man pays for the date or the woman goes back to the man's room after the date. ***
http://rwu.edu/campus-life/health-counseling/counseling-center/sexual-assault/rape-myths-and-fac
And this is just what they admitted to in an anonymous forum, the real stats are higher.
While looking through the blog, I went to click through to the next page and suddenly the blog didn't exist anymore.
I'm not racist, but I think that's a good thing. Their basic plan of attack was "take anything criticizing Obama and mentioning race and plant content to make them look extremely racist"
You know how I know you never saw "Book of Mormon"?
wow, site goes down right as its being discussed....
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I believe the GP meant free speech can have consequences that are not from the government.
Short of assassination threats the folks with black SUVs should leave you alone, but I should be able to find out about it and avoid you.
Should I not have the right to chose not to associate with such folks?
No, who said it was?
Oh settle down. You and all of the Paranoid Drama Queens out there. The Secret Service / FBI / NSA / Men In Black isn't going to whisk you away to Guantanamo Bay in the dark of night. Neither the little racist asshole or yourself are so special.
If anything they'll ask you some questions. If they feel like further evaluation is needed, you will be able to get a lawyer. The vast majority of times they'll just stare at you and maybe ask you to grow up a tad.
There are enough issues with government intrusion into personal privacy to keep everyone on their toes. Jumping up and down about this sort of thing just creates noise, not signal.
Faster! Faster! Faster would be better!
Be warned AC. You will be outed soon.
sed -e 's/Chuck Norris/Rajnikant/g' joke > fact
Yes, making death threats is not protected speech. If they didn't want people to ridicule them, etc. they shouldn't have made these statements publicly.
On the actual site (quit linking to some blog that links to a site of interest, Slashdot submitters), it's just typical jerks, mostly in high school. Somebody at the Secret Service will have to read through all that dreck looking for someone who might conceivably be a threat. It's mostly just kids mouthing off. Ones who are both making threats and have guns may get some attention.
It's sad reading the Facebook pages of some of those people. Their future is dim. For white people with only a high school education, life in the US has become slightly worse each year since 1973. For them, there is no American Dream. Hard work is no longer enough. Of course they're angry. The GOP and Fox News exploit and direct that anger at Obama, but they didn't create it.
Looks like the blog is gone.
I guess tumblr was afraid of the slashdotting they were about to get.
So who's busy outing the folks speculating about the bleached assholes of Romney and Ryan's wives? Why does this shit only seem to flow one way? Liberals are racist and sexist as well folks.
Are they going to decide what is racist?
For example racist comments against the prez are verboten but what if somebody makes asian slurs or hispanic slurs - will those be outed too?
If you just single out racism against one race and not others isn't that in itself racist?
That the concept of tolerance is only applied to certain ethnic groups. The whole idea of tolerance is racist. I, as a white man HAVE to tolerate what any other ethnic groups feels the need to voice, but as soon as I voice mine, I am a racist if my views don't line up with theirs. I think we all are missing the point here. This event has much bigger implications. If you can't (or won't) recognize them, then you deserve them.
So you are free to say anything you want as long as your ok with consequences of the men in black suv's showing up and putting you down sans trial under patriot act anti terror legislation.
Because the men in black SUVs only show up if you threaten to kill someone important? But beyond that the AC didn't say that any consequence was justifiable. Having your real name attached to stupid racist things you've said is a far cry from extraordinary rendition.
Additionally, free speech has never meant you were free from the consequences from your fellow people, only from government reprisal for most things that you can say. Even that protection from the government has been limited. For example, you're are still legally responsible for crimes commited with speech such as fraud, intimidation, uttering death threats, treason, and other related crimes that can result from your speech. In addition you can be held civilally responsible responsible for many types of speech such as slander, copyright infringement (public performance of a protected work), wrongful death (if someone dies because of what you said) and others.
Beyond that there are all kinds of consequences your fellow citizens can inflict on you, such as telling other people your real name when you spout offensive crap. There is no way to have consequence free speech other than making sure no one ever hears it.
Fanatically anti-fanatical
Generally, discussing racist views should be OK but as soon as it is targeted that is wrong. If a person feels uncomfortable sitting next to a different person they should be encouraged to discuss it but in the current PC climate they cannot. If someone feels uncomfortable with a black man or a woman running the country, they should be free to discuss that without any problem. I do not support their view in any way but pushing these things underground creates a bigger problem. So I think we should defend their free speech...
Suggesting harm is not wrong because the target is black or Muslim or a woman, it is wrong because it is an assault. It is already a crime and in a truly non racist society we should just see it as a crime because it is one, not because the victim was different.
We need to end racism in society by stopping racism from being the crime. End all racism, sexism etc. We need a society that treats all people the same, regardless of who they hate.
I love stacking my barbecues in the shed at the end of summer - you can't beat a bit of grill on grill action.
I can understand that.
I love stacking my barbecues in the shed at the end of summer - you can't beat a bit of grill on grill action.
The curse of Cain...
I love stacking my barbecues in the shed at the end of summer - you can't beat a bit of grill on grill action.
I probably did at some point.
Don't know something? Look it up. Still don't know? Then ask.
Well, if free speech is not prevented by any entity (including MIB) but leads to grave consequences, I wouldn't stop at defining it as free speech.
It's something more: it's called bullying (through verbal harassment). Now, are we gonna accept bullying as a right, too?
Because sometimes, to maintain a right, one has to exercise it with responsibility.
We need to end racism in society by stopping racism from being the crime. End all racism, sexism etc. We need a society that treats all people the same, regardless of who they hate
The laws were established because we as a society do not treat all people the same, in fact parts of society not only wants to see the other part die, they want to see them die a gruesome and painful death.
Don't know something? Look it up. Still don't know? Then ask.
What does that have to do with a broadway musical?
Here's a cached version, since the site is no longer available.
If you ever thought that advocating for or even casually mentioning the assassination of geroge w bush as a positive thing, you cannot really object to people doing the same thing with obama. Back in 2003, i certainly did want bush out by any means necessary. So it would be hypocritical of me to not side with free speech here.
Hate speech is another issue, but as i understand it, hate speech is not illegal in the USA, whereas assassination threats are taken more seriously because of the seriousness of the position. Probably because in the usa the position of president is sacrosanct, whereas hate speech, which often builds to hate crimes (and arguably is more likely to insight actual violence), affects only the ordinary citizen who is less protected then the president, obviously.
As a potential lottery winner, I totally support tax cuts for the wealthy
The people that post that sort of shit are just fine saying it outloud anyways.
"If anything they'll ask you some questions. If they feel like further evaluation is needed, you will be able to get a lawyer"
Not under NDAA (Obama's Law), all you need is to be declared a "terrorist" and they can drop a bomb on you from a drone aircraft, no court, no judge, no lawyers no nothing. Don't get me wrong, the (R) president would do the same.
In other words, Obama is the worst part of GWB and then some. The Next President will be all the worst parts of Obama and then some.... see how that works?
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If tumblr has a problem with this blog and yanked it offline, I'd be proud to host it myself on my own server. Contact erik@otakubell.com if interested.
salon just made a decent argument lambasting them for outing kids in a manner that could permanently stigmatize them as racists. Granted I think arresting the penchant for racism at a young age is a good idea, perhaps it would be more fruitful if the parents of the children were outed instead?
Sorry, but racist remarks by themselves rarely are illegal. Racist remarks may indicate that a criminal act is racially motivated (and thus a "hate" crime), but are otherwise protected free speech.
I admit I haven't seen every single post on the blog, but all of the ones I did read already had the alleged racist's full name attached.
TFS claims the blogger was "uncovering" the poster's real name, implying that he/she was doing some kind of sleuthing to find the individual behind a pseudonym. This is not the case. The blogger is merely aggregating Facebook and Twitter posts that he/she deems racist.
Anyone could do a cursory search of twitter for racial epithets and get basically the same results. I really don't see how there are legal implications for the blogger.
Did anyone wget that site before it went away? I would like to check it for a couple of names.
and end up with Darth Vader? didn't really think that one all the way through, did'ja?
It's part of freedom of speech and expression.
Yep. We've got to learn to deal with the fact that the world is full of assholes, just like they have to learn to deal with the fact that the world is full of people who aren't like them.
But then, I've never seen any indication that the internet was designed for use by grownups.
Sheesh, evil *and* a jerk. -- Jade
In leftist thinking all who disagree are racist. And sexist. And homophobic.
"Bob is a racist" sums it up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbULBAjstBA
Replying off-topic but it's relevant:
https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache%3Ahellothereracists.tumblr.com
"When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
So, do we believe that anonymous speech is the only true way to maintain truly free speech, or do we cheer a man who hunts racists, with a technique that cripples free speech?
These things can actually complement each other. We really need proper freedom of speech for all reasonable political views. Things like speech and anonymous speech is a great way to achieve that. We should take a big effort not to compromise "decent" people no matter how insane if we find a chink in their anonymity (though I always tend to find a way to warn them if I do). However when we find something that gives away bunch of serious child molesters (and I don't mean "distributors of potentially under-age looking people in manga comics" or "twenty two with a 17 year old girl-friend" here) then we should do everything we can to completely fuck them.
When you find a weakness in tor which gives away a child molesting ring this a) publicises the weakness and makes political dissidents more likely to protect themselves b) scares the child molesters away c) saves people from being molested. That means that it improves the long term chances of anonymous speech for everyone else. What's not to like?
I'd say screwing over serious racists is almost as good but should be sort of optional. If you don't want to do it don't feel obliged.
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Yes, the presumption is that the names are real. Obviously, if he believes there is even a chance they are wrong, he should desist. And if he can't even find one group of names with a high probability of it being the actual person, I'd say he should shitcan the whole thing.
Realistically, he has probably outed real racists as well as outing some innocent people. I imagine that most people don't take many more steps to hide their identities if they are of the mistaken impression that they are anonymous from the get-go. They may, however, be posting from someone else's machine in the course of their other activities, and that could generate a false identification as well.
Needless to say, this is not something I would do, for many reasons. Still, assuming that his data is actually correct, I am not sure that you have the right to not be publicly shamed by your own words.
Looks like the blog is gone.
I guess tumblr was afraid of the slashdotting they were about to get.
Here's a map someone made a week ago:
http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2012/11/where-americas-racist-tweets-come-from/265006/
Sheesh, evil *and* a jerk. -- Jade
Any post critical of Obama is, by new definition, racist.
Yea, there is a reason the Dick never wanted anyone to know where he was.
Don't know something? Look it up. Still don't know? Then ask.
It's just dumb kids with poor upbringing.
Maybe he hopes someone like maybe the Black Panthers will visit them.
If racism is okay, so is outing those who are publicly being racist.
Let's see the coverage this gets on /.
Gee, didn't see too many complaints about all the threats of assassination, riots, fire, and general mayhem that were made against Romney.
Or Romney
When Fascism comes to America, it will call itself Anti-Fascism, and tell you to give up your guns.
Your job if you choose to accept it is to scour the internet for those posts and
1) Make those posts public knowledge.
2) Out those who made the posts
And please post here with the results, I'd love to see what you come up with.
Don't know something? Look it up. Still don't know? Then ask.
Nothing has changed in America... same values, same fears, same reactions, same witchhunt mentality. Sad really as it implies no progress.
In addition to the ones doing this for Obama the others who did it for Romney should be outed as well to clear this sort of crap out of the atmosphere of politics. Posing and acting like you are cool by threatening a political candidate of any sort is antithetical to what a free America should function like, I believe.
YMMV
Cheers,
It's something more: it's called bullying (through verbal harassment). Now, are we gonna accept bullying as a right, too?
Yes. As part of having the right to free speech, others have that same right.
But you (unintentionally, I presume) make light of "real" bullying here, which goes far, far beyond "speech". Those chronically bullied very quickly become numb to mere words, and would gladly put up with that over what they actually endure.
Not under NDAA (Obama's Law)
You mean that thing that congress hashed out and sent him to sign?
It's funny how people's understanding of how government works goes right out the window as soon as they find a talking point to latch onto.
--Jeremy
Jesus was a liberal
Unless, of course, you are saying the most vile things imaginable about Muslims. Then you really are pretty much free from any negative consequences, at least in the US.
I looked through the cached page, and it was a little disturbing to see a false positive. Specifically, Hallie C. She may or may not be a racist, but clearly the evidence that I saw on the blog was not sufficient to call her one. Apparently she complained that proposed race-based quotas would remove a requirement to work hard in order to get a job (which seems plausible, since it de-emphasizes merit-based competition in order to consider instead the color of your skin). And so our blogger claimed she was saying black people are lazy. Whatever, dude.
Also, the chairman of the Maine Republican party. If black people are not known to live in a town, yet they are bused in to vote, it is legitimate to ask questions about that. Sorry, it just is. If he's mistaken about the demographics, let him be duly raked over the coals for crying wolf unnecessarily. But why call him a racist for apparently being a watchdog against voter fraud?
This blogger was apparently in over his head, and most definitely does not have my respect. Glad his site is down.
The author of the blog was kind enough to provide links to the schools for some of the people...So I took the liberty of emailing some of them the links to the blog. "Thank you for bringing this to our attention. We are addressing it with the child and we have already contacted his parents. They certainly are not indicative of the general student body at Midlakes."
The idea in the US is that you really try to only bring people you are fairly sure are guilty to trial. A trial costs a lot of money and majorly disrupts a person's life. You don't say "Just take them to trial, it'll get all sorted out there."
In the case of an affirmative defense, like self defense, what should happen is the police investigate the situation and determine if the affirmative defense holds water. If it doesn't, they then had it off to the DA for charges.
So "Wait for the facts," is indeed appropriate. You would probably like the same courtesy extended to you if you were suspected of a crime. You'd like them to see if there is a reason to actually charge you, not just toss you in a trial and let that sort it all out.
Also there's the issue that you don't want to go to trial if you aren't ready, or you can well lose. If the state goes off half-cocked and charges someone with little to no evidence, their lawyer will likely file a speedy trial motion to push for a fast date, because they know the state will be screwed.
I know it's very anti-pc of me to point out, but there's nothing illegal about being racist.
Remember that whatever strictures you place on someone's hateful speech today, could have been likewise been employed against those "crazy" people advocating things like gay rights and the rights of blacks to do things like vote and ride in the front of the bus.
The most abhorrent speech is that we must most stringently defend despite our personal loathing of what's being said.
-Styopa
Please feel free to make racist comments about GOP politicians with impunity. Remember the thinly veiled racist comments hurled at Cain by the Liberal side of the media during the primaries? As for citing sources, do your own research or dismiss this entirely. I don't care.
The secret service takes this stuff pretty seriously.
I had an uncle that lost it and was wandering around town mumbling about killing the president. He had a nervous breakdown.
Later that day I received a call from the Secret Service at my home asking me all about him and his history our family history etc.
He ended up getting released a few days later.
They're protected by Federal Law. Can't publish information about persons under the age of 13 on the internet. At lease not in the states.
That leaves one question - if, as you say, freedom of speech and process of law has been abandoned by the evil nigger in the WHITE house - why in hell are you still here to post your idiotic drivel? Why haven't THEY whisked you away without lawyer, court, nothing? Why haven't you been drone-bombed? Could it be because your theory is just a huge steaming pile of utter bullcrap? No, really?
Ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem appellant.
and it's only a matter of time before someone decides to shoot you in the face. And you know what? You'll have deserved it.
Just don't be surprised when someone hunts him down and shoots him in the face.
Some entries involve racial slurs or threats of secession; others advocate openly for the assassination of Obama
1. So we have threats of secession which seems to happen every time a new president is elected. How quickly we forget what conspiracy nuts were spouting off about Bill Clinton while he was in office.
2. Racial slurs
3. Finally we have death threats.
Parse "death threat" carefully... TFA cites an example "I want an assassination" this by itself is not a death threat. Wishing someone to be killed is not the same as threatening or otherwise conspiring to have them killed.
While the people behind the racial slurs may find themselves in legal trouble
WTF? Why? The only way "free speech" and "freedom" work in society is tolerance of the bullshit of others.
In the USA nobody should be in "legal" trouble for dreams of secession, popping off slurs or wishing someone dead. Obviously there may incur other costs for being an asshat.
Legal trouble should only be limited to those who have actually made threats.
If you don't like the concept of freedom of speech then by all means feel free to move to Europe.
Can we get a list of homosexuals, so that they can be avoided too?
I'd think it cool if they were equal in coverage and also pointed out the racists on the other side of the race and/or political spectrum as well. They are there....just conveniently ignored usually.
akma
here's the text content in case it goes down again:
(the tweets are only screenshots)
Hello there, Racists
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Jamie Spalding - Florence, South Carolina
Jamie Spalding is from Florence, South Carolina. He attended South Florence High, and is currently working at Red Bone Alley
Twitter: https://twitter.com/JamieSpalding2
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jamie.spalding.526
2 seconds ago
#florence
#south carolina
#South Florence High
#Red Bone Alley
Drew Lawrence - O’Fallon, Missouri
Drew Lawrence from O’Fallon, Missouri. He is fond of racial slurs, and may also be anti-Semitic.
Twitter: https://twitter.com/drewlawrence95
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001575853928
6 minutes ago
2 notes
#o'fallon
#missouri
Brennen Mykol North — Lebo, Kansas
Brennen Mykol North lives in Lebo, Kansas, but is from Fort Wayne, Indiana. Brennen studies at Illinois Central College, and works at DWE Livestock.
Twitter: https://twitter.com/BrennenNorth
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/brennen.north
9 minutes ago
#Lebo
#Kansas
#Illinois Central College
#DWE Livestock
Bart Conner — Midland, Texas
Bart Conner is from Midland, Texas, and attends Lee High School.
Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheConnerFactor
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/bart.conner.9
12 minutes ago
#midland
#texas
#lee high school
Josh Fox - Erie, Pennsylvania
Josh Fox lives in Erie, Pennsylvania. He is from Schereville, Indiana.
Twitter: https://twitter.com/chevyman9182
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/josh.fox.714049
16 minutes ago
#erie
#pennsylvania
#schereville
#indiana
#treason
#confederate flag
#poor grammar
Doug Smith — Soddy-Daisy, Te
It's funny how people's understanding of how government works goes right out the window as soon as they find a talking point to latch onto.
The original blog hellothereracists.tumblr.com seems to be back up.
One of them lost his job over this, let's all tell him what a stupid douche he is!
https://twitter.com/bigdoug92/status/269517576965615617
The website “Hello There, Racists!” appears to be 'outing' anyone who tweets or otherwise makes it clear they don't support Obama. The article states - 'Although its subjects clearly oppose Obama’s re-election, not all of them explicitly identify themselves as Republicans. Some also state specifically that they are not racist.' It's sort of an online House Committee on Un-American Activities for the internet.
'I don't know what it's called. I just know the sound it makes, when it takes a man's life.' ~ Four Leaf Tayback
You know, the shit that overshadows anti-black racism by 100000x or so?
This is not crippling free speech. It's not the best way to go about things, but he did nothing to silence the free speech of these people.
You never had the right to call for the assassination of the President, so yeah, nothing's changed.
There's a huge difference between homosexuality, which is something you're born with, and being a dumbfuck, which is something these people chose.
It's reminiscent of people using the Freedom of Information Act to get the list of people who signed petitions for politically incorrect ballot proposals for the admitted purpose of harassing them.
The Supreme Court, while allowing the request, noted this was a troubling thing, a hint Congress might want to look into it.
(-1: Post disagrees with my already-settled worldview) is not a valid mod option.
And you're a fucking idiot if you think they would do that for some dumbass casual racist on Twitter.
Now if you actually did plan to assassinate the President, and had gotten far into plotting it, then perhaps some advanced tactics might be warranted.
So if they have that right, then don't we have the right to out them and call them shitheads?
over the past 4 years I have learned several new things about racisim.
1. If you care about the future of the country.. you may be a racist
2. If you have children and you care about their future.. you may be a racist.
3. if you feel that businesses that are run badly should not be bailed out by the government.. you may be a racist
4. If you buy american goods.. you may be a racist
5. if you belive crime should be ileagal.. you may be a racist.
etc... feel free to add
Nonsense, every race has a racist in 1st, 2nd, or 3rd place. They all be losers after that. What your white ass hahahaing about anyway. You fuckers is all crackers.
Yet the blogger is an anonymous coward who cannot even reveal their name, while outing others.
The blog has no merit, and hopefully they find out who it is, you know, just out of fairness to out the blogger.
If he assassinated his character, is it a suicide?.
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It is not wanting to see black people die that is wrong, it wanting to see any people die that is wrong. If you make it illegal to want to see black people die then that is unfair on people who get attacked because they have red hair or a big nose. We are not fighting racism by bringing out racist laws, we are encouraging it.
I love stacking my barbecues in the shed at the end of summer - you can't beat a bit of grill on grill action.
As of 11:32 PM Pacific Time the site loads for me. There are only about a dozen entries -- this may be a reboot.
I don't think the lists would be comparable in length. While racism is present in both parties... I think it's part of the platform that those kinds of things not preclude you from elected office. Also, republicans have a stranglehold on evangelicals... What are we going to do? Denigrate Romney for being white? All religions are equally silly to me, though mormonism is especially equal, so that's out... The only thing I can call Romney out on is having no core not any convictions, which have both been pretty well established since the primaries. Romney is the bamboo candidate, wooden, hollow, and he'll bend whichever way the wind blows.
Really idiotic that this was taken down. These racist douchebags deserve to be exposed and to have some secret service agents question them.
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i spent five minutes thinking and all i got was this crappy sig
People have the right to free speech and yes there can be consequences of said speech but this is why anonymity is very important. With anonymity one can make the most outrageous claims without someone directly targeting them(their personas or physical self) and keep an honest debate without fear or reprecussions. The best example of this was the federalist papers. People need to stop trying to personally attack others because of their thought and convictions especially when the have done so with an alias...it is harmful, destructive and puts a chilling effect on free speech -- no matter how vile.
advanced tactics like due process you know evidence, trial, judgement - you know that sort of thing, yeah they would be warranted.
i spent five minutes thinking and all i got was this crappy sig
Remember the old ink blotters. Teenagers like all infants are just reflecting whats said in their home, club or whats passed on down to them. OK
Then it's his equivalent of autoerotic asphyxiation. Maybe there'll be a film with a sad ending.
I would hope the press would get hold of it before the cover up.
Headlines " Obama Chokes on Clintons Cigar, Biden Lights Up"
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Forgive the assumption, but I could bet real money that you're white and male. You might feel differently if you were judged your whole life on appearance alone.
From the way his post was framed, I'll bet you're right. I'm a white male as well. What I'm curious about: you seem (and forgive me if the strawman attacketh) to take issue with his post. What about it bothered you? My liberal-libertarian Spidey sense is tingling...
I've worked at a very liberal university in the past, and half of those motherfuckers would institute the thought police if they could.. if often seemed that the only correct opinion about anything was one that bashed white males. Just remember, while my freedom of speech does have consequences for me, (second potential strawman alert) you have no right to not be offended.
So if they have that right, then don't we have the right to out them and call them shitheads?
Absolutely. Call them out, call them shitheads, let the world know their idiocy - They want to "speak", give them as wide an audience as possible so we all know "the enemy".
This thread has nothing to do with calling a spade a spade, however - It started with "you are free to say anything you want as long as your ok with consequences of the men in black suv's showing up and putting you down sans trial under patriot act anti terror legislation". Outing bigots, I have no problem with. Taking away their right to free speech with a web of capricious laws that favor certain types of speech, absolutely not even remotely okay.
I may mock you mercilessly as seven different kinds of idiot who should refrain from contaminating the future gene pool of the human race, "but I will defend to the death your right to say it".
Man! Can I see that study? I'll hire a few universities to counter it and profit! I'd love to finance all the lawsuits against people fired for being dumbfucks since that will provide a legal foundation similar to the homosexuality foundation which you guarantee us exists.
For a nation hailing your great freedoms, you sure are a country obsessed with trying to punish, vilify and limit one another to whats "proper and respectable"
(Anon to keep from making it easy to connect this to me elsewhere.)
Actually, I can give a non-white, non-male view here: Not only is this a problem, it gets outright inquisitorial if your objection is on the grounds that no, really, you are not comfortable with any group being bashed. Apparently you're a bigot if the behavior itself is what bothers you.
If you make it impossible to openly discuss the problem, you are only making it worse and removing the ability to prove or disprove accusations. This can get really nasty when it becomes important to consider that what is being attributed to bigotry may in point of fact be entirely a projection: that if the person is being treated any differently from everybody else, it is purely because they're being an asshole, a problem that is quite entirely divorced from their race and gender.
How com,e he isn't outing all of the posters who said they were going to kill Mitt Romney if he won. Is it because they are predominantly B***K
The new right fascists are bilingual. They speak English and Bullshit.
I find pretty hard to believe that all those rich and powerful people that practice homosexual relations were born that way, instead of looking for new experiences (practically all rich people is addict to some drug, too, for the same reason). There are people that are born that way, and people who are just gay for money or vice.
Two things I find rather interesting and telling about this blogger.
1. I don't see his/her name and address listed anywhere. If he/she is ready to publish others info he/she should be ready to publish their real info. Cowardly.
2. I didn't see any posts on people making racist/threatening comments against Romney. Again, what a hypocrite.
All I can say is good riddance.
It can't be much of a problem. Most real racists are illiterate and don't know how to use a computer. Maybe it is more about trying to shut down legitimate political discourse by claiming racism because someone thinks obama is a radical leftist or a full bore communist. These are not a race, these are a mental retardation problem that does not target members of any particular race. As for the racists, they are simply the dregs that only have being at the bottom of whatever group they are a part of as a reason to feel good about themselves.
Hence, they must promote that group at the expense of other groups to make them feel better about being the dregs of that group.