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Website Calls Out Authors of Racist Anti-Obama Posts
stevegee58 writes "A tumblr blog entitled 'HelloThereRacists' is publicly identifying other online posters who make racist/assassination comments about President Obama. Beyond merely identifying online usernames, the blog's author is uncovering and publishing the real names and locations of offending posters. It's an interesting mess of legal issues. The outed posters are at risk of a Secret Service visit, but the trouble may not end there. The HelloThereRacists blogger himself may have some problems publicly identifying posters, who are frequently underage teenagers."
Update: 11/16 19:17 GMT by S : The blog has already been taken down.
Sounds like a good life's lesson before they'll face real consequences for their actions, and maybe their parents won't be able to continue to delude themselves about their childrens' behavior anymore.
Do not look into laser with remaining eye.
http://hellothereracists.tumblr.com/
salon just made a decent argument lambasting them for outing kids in a manner that could permanently stigmatize them as racists. Granted I think arresting the penchant for racism at a young age is a good idea, perhaps it would be more fruitful if the parents of the children were outed instead?
additionally, many of the posts come from regions of America that you would anticipate racism to emanate from. at very least it helps to dispel the often heralded myth by of the GOP that racism happened a long time ago and we don't need to talk about it, as they did during the Treyvon Martin murder. The south, as a touchstone example, while forced to integrate has never been forced to accept it socially.
Good people go to bed earlier.
So who gets to decide the difference between a "racist" comment and a generally insulting comment?
Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr's famous "dream" was that [people] will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character." Many of Obama's critics are doing exactly that.
Disclaimer: I'm a halfhearted Obama supporter in the "lesser of two evils" sense.
[Sir Garlon] is the marvellest knight that is now living, for he destroyeth many good knights, for he goeth invisible.
FTA:
Oh, I guess that makes everything all right then.
The most racist comments by the most racist people always start with "I'm not racist, but..."
FTS:
This, and similar, statements are made in the article, but never explained or justified. There's nothing illegal or immoral about revealing the source of a quote, regardless of age.
Here is a tweet from a supporter of the website:
This tumblr is fantastic, i hope people search these asshats out and hurt most if not all of them.
No doubt they fail to realize they are as bad as the people they criticize.
Freedom of speech absolutely does not imply freedom from consequences.
So why isn't this blogger exposing the real identities of poster who made racist comments about Allen West and Mia Love?
sudo make me a sandwich
Free speech does not mean that there are no social consequences of that speech. I am not so sure I like what this guy is doing, but I'm inclined to think that he has the right to do it (as long as he breaks no reasonable privacy laws doing so).
Of course, he should also understand that there are consequences to what he does too. It's one thing to be a verbal racist against someone in a chat room, it's another thing to put someone's real name out there with the implication that perhaps someone should *do something* with that data. I mean, honestly, what does he expect people to do with that information but to get them harassed or trolled?
Interesting they don't call out Obama on his racist book "Dreams of My Father" he quotes in his own words and the racist "church" he attended for 20 years where he praised Jeremiah Wright. Oh, and how he attended Louis Farrakhan's (Jeremiah's Wrights close friend) racist rally... you know, the guy who says all white people are devils and said "Hitler was a very great man".
Nice double standard there. No, I don't see any bias or hypocrisy at all.
Will they also be outing the authors of all the tweets that threatened to assassinate Romney or riot and murder in general if Romney had won? Just curious.
you didn't read any of the tweets, did you?
I disagree with this website & they didn't "uncover" anything these people used their real names. While I'm against racism personally, people need to understand that tolerance works both ways. You can't on one hand say people should respect your views & then on the other not at least respect theirs.
If its a matter of public disclosure, they can always place the identity information on a web page protected with a password for use by law enforcement. Make the password 'password' and we'll call it good.
Have gnu, will travel.
I have mixed feelings about this.
Asserting that a person acts a certain way because of their skin color is absurd. It should not be tolerated.
Somebody mentioning a suspicious correlation between cultural demographics which involve skin color and and group behaviors is really not.
Oops. Sorry about my racist title.
War is still good now.
So you are free to say anything you want as long as your ok with consequences of the men in black suv's showing up and putting you down sans trial under patriot act anti terror legislation. But that's still free speach how exactly?
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As I was on it they took it down.
Below is what I get at http://hellothereracists.tumblr.com/
Not found.
We couldn't find the page you were looking for.
Looks like http://hellothereracists.tumblr.com/ is already 'down' (returning a "Not found" message). I wonder if it was done voluntarily, or if Tumblr did it themselves.
LegendMUD
Annnd, it's gone already. Or it's gone at the moment.
Not clear if the author took it down, if this is an automated reaction to problem reports on Tumblr, or if Tumblr itself took it down for Reasons.
you're assuming the names of people published are accurate. if they are not then he could face a huge ton of legal issues.
You know how I know you never saw "Book of Mormon"?
wow, site goes down right as its being discussed....
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impeachment yes, assassination no
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I believe the GP meant free speech can have consequences that are not from the government.
Short of assassination threats the folks with black SUVs should leave you alone, but I should be able to find out about it and avoid you.
Should I not have the right to chose not to associate with such folks?
Oh settle down. You and all of the Paranoid Drama Queens out there. The Secret Service / FBI / NSA / Men In Black isn't going to whisk you away to Guantanamo Bay in the dark of night. Neither the little racist asshole or yourself are so special.
If anything they'll ask you some questions. If they feel like further evaluation is needed, you will be able to get a lawyer. The vast majority of times they'll just stare at you and maybe ask you to grow up a tad.
There are enough issues with government intrusion into personal privacy to keep everyone on their toes. Jumping up and down about this sort of thing just creates noise, not signal.
Faster! Faster! Faster would be better!
Be warned AC. You will be outed soon.
sed -e 's/Chuck Norris/Rajnikant/g' joke > fact
Yes, making death threats is not protected speech. If they didn't want people to ridicule them, etc. they shouldn't have made these statements publicly.
On the actual site (quit linking to some blog that links to a site of interest, Slashdot submitters), it's just typical jerks, mostly in high school. Somebody at the Secret Service will have to read through all that dreck looking for someone who might conceivably be a threat. It's mostly just kids mouthing off. Ones who are both making threats and have guns may get some attention.
It's sad reading the Facebook pages of some of those people. Their future is dim. For white people with only a high school education, life in the US has become slightly worse each year since 1973. For them, there is no American Dream. Hard work is no longer enough. Of course they're angry. The GOP and Fox News exploit and direct that anger at Obama, but they didn't create it.
Looks like the blog is gone.
I guess tumblr was afraid of the slashdotting they were about to get.
You only need to do a Google search for "new civility" (include the quotes) to see the hypocrisy behind HelloThereRacists. But don't expect to see Diane Sawyer, Brian Williams, or Scott Pelley saying anything about the threats of violence and murder against Romney and Ryan. The "objective" news sources were silent this time around, just like they were four years ago.
For those who really want to be racist, it was Bush not Obama who destroyed the US, looks like the white man destroyed his people again.
If you want to be even remotely accurate, the dictatorial-like powers that Bush seized and Obama is happily using (this executive order nonsense) has been around since at least Lincoln's day, if not longer.
Hell, Alien and Sedition Acts. Our government has been shitting all over its own legality since damned near the beginning.
Are they going to decide what is racist?
For example racist comments against the prez are verboten but what if somebody makes asian slurs or hispanic slurs - will those be outed too?
If you just single out racism against one race and not others isn't that in itself racist?
That the concept of tolerance is only applied to certain ethnic groups. The whole idea of tolerance is racist. I, as a white man HAVE to tolerate what any other ethnic groups feels the need to voice, but as soon as I voice mine, I am a racist if my views don't line up with theirs. I think we all are missing the point here. This event has much bigger implications. If you can't (or won't) recognize them, then you deserve them.
So you are free to say anything you want as long as your ok with consequences of the men in black suv's showing up and putting you down sans trial under patriot act anti terror legislation.
Because the men in black SUVs only show up if you threaten to kill someone important? But beyond that the AC didn't say that any consequence was justifiable. Having your real name attached to stupid racist things you've said is a far cry from extraordinary rendition.
Additionally, free speech has never meant you were free from the consequences from your fellow people, only from government reprisal for most things that you can say. Even that protection from the government has been limited. For example, you're are still legally responsible for crimes commited with speech such as fraud, intimidation, uttering death threats, treason, and other related crimes that can result from your speech. In addition you can be held civilally responsible responsible for many types of speech such as slander, copyright infringement (public performance of a protected work), wrongful death (if someone dies because of what you said) and others.
Beyond that there are all kinds of consequences your fellow citizens can inflict on you, such as telling other people your real name when you spout offensive crap. There is no way to have consequence free speech other than making sure no one ever hears it.
Fanatically anti-fanatical
Generally, discussing racist views should be OK but as soon as it is targeted that is wrong. If a person feels uncomfortable sitting next to a different person they should be encouraged to discuss it but in the current PC climate they cannot. If someone feels uncomfortable with a black man or a woman running the country, they should be free to discuss that without any problem. I do not support their view in any way but pushing these things underground creates a bigger problem. So I think we should defend their free speech...
Suggesting harm is not wrong because the target is black or Muslim or a woman, it is wrong because it is an assault. It is already a crime and in a truly non racist society we should just see it as a crime because it is one, not because the victim was different.
We need to end racism in society by stopping racism from being the crime. End all racism, sexism etc. We need a society that treats all people the same, regardless of who they hate.
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I can understand that.
I love stacking my barbecues in the shed at the end of summer - you can't beat a bit of grill on grill action.
The curse of Cain...
I love stacking my barbecues in the shed at the end of summer - you can't beat a bit of grill on grill action.
I have mixed feelings about this.
Asserting that a person acts a certain way because of their skin color is absurd. It should not be tolerated.
Should not be tolerated or not be given consideration as though it were an informed position?
I ask because one of those statements can and will eventually be enforced with guns. The other is simply the responsibility of the other participants of the discussion and no one else.
I probably did at some point.
Don't know something? Look it up. Still don't know? Then ask.
We need to end racism in society by stopping racism from being the crime. End all racism, sexism etc. We need a society that treats all people the same, regardless of who they hate
The laws were established because we as a society do not treat all people the same, in fact parts of society not only wants to see the other part die, they want to see them die a gruesome and painful death.
Don't know something? Look it up. Still don't know? Then ask.
What does that have to do with a broadway musical?
Here's a cached version, since the site is no longer available.
If you ever thought that advocating for or even casually mentioning the assassination of geroge w bush as a positive thing, you cannot really object to people doing the same thing with obama. Back in 2003, i certainly did want bush out by any means necessary. So it would be hypocritical of me to not side with free speech here.
Hate speech is another issue, but as i understand it, hate speech is not illegal in the USA, whereas assassination threats are taken more seriously because of the seriousness of the position. Probably because in the usa the position of president is sacrosanct, whereas hate speech, which often builds to hate crimes (and arguably is more likely to insight actual violence), affects only the ordinary citizen who is less protected then the president, obviously.
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You only need to do a Google search for "new civility" (include the quotes) to see the hypocrisy behind HelloThereRacists.
Hell, just RFTA:
Anonymous pussy thinks he's big hero by outing other anonymous pussies, all the time hiding his own identity?
I can't think of a better definition of hypocrisy than that.
Tumblr should out his ass for principle sake.
An enigma, wrapped in a riddle, shrouded in bacon and cheese
... does not guarantee freedom from responsibility.
... and all streets are 2-way, if you know how the lines are painted.
An enigma, wrapped in a riddle, shrouded in bacon and cheese
It should not be given any credence in terms of policy, how about that?
The assertion that skincolor has any bearing on behavior is not currently supported by science. Unless a specific mechanism linking skincolor with genetic mechanisms that predispose an individual to certain behaviors is demonstrated, the argument simply doesn't hold water.
"If anything they'll ask you some questions. If they feel like further evaluation is needed, you will be able to get a lawyer"
Not under NDAA (Obama's Law), all you need is to be declared a "terrorist" and they can drop a bomb on you from a drone aircraft, no court, no judge, no lawyers no nothing. Don't get me wrong, the (R) president would do the same.
In other words, Obama is the worst part of GWB and then some. The Next President will be all the worst parts of Obama and then some.... see how that works?
Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
If tumblr has a problem with this blog and yanked it offline, I'd be proud to host it myself on my own server. Contact erik@otakubell.com if interested.
I admit I haven't seen every single post on the blog, but all of the ones I did read already had the alleged racist's full name attached.
TFS claims the blogger was "uncovering" the poster's real name, implying that he/she was doing some kind of sleuthing to find the individual behind a pseudonym. This is not the case. The blogger is merely aggregating Facebook and Twitter posts that he/she deems racist.
Anyone could do a cursory search of twitter for racial epithets and get basically the same results. I really don't see how there are legal implications for the blogger.
Did anyone wget that site before it went away? I would like to check it for a couple of names.
It's part of freedom of speech and expression.
Yep. We've got to learn to deal with the fact that the world is full of assholes, just like they have to learn to deal with the fact that the world is full of people who aren't like them.
But then, I've never seen any indication that the internet was designed for use by grownups.
Sheesh, evil *and* a jerk. -- Jade
In leftist thinking all who disagree are racist. And sexist. And homophobic.
"Bob is a racist" sums it up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbULBAjstBA
Replying off-topic but it's relevant:
https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache%3Ahellothereracists.tumblr.com
"When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
So, do we believe that anonymous speech is the only true way to maintain truly free speech, or do we cheer a man who hunts racists, with a technique that cripples free speech?
These things can actually complement each other. We really need proper freedom of speech for all reasonable political views. Things like speech and anonymous speech is a great way to achieve that. We should take a big effort not to compromise "decent" people no matter how insane if we find a chink in their anonymity (though I always tend to find a way to warn them if I do). However when we find something that gives away bunch of serious child molesters (and I don't mean "distributors of potentially under-age looking people in manga comics" or "twenty two with a 17 year old girl-friend" here) then we should do everything we can to completely fuck them.
When you find a weakness in tor which gives away a child molesting ring this a) publicises the weakness and makes political dissidents more likely to protect themselves b) scares the child molesters away c) saves people from being molested. That means that it improves the long term chances of anonymous speech for everyone else. What's not to like?
I'd say screwing over serious racists is almost as good but should be sort of optional. If you don't want to do it don't feel obliged.
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Yes, the presumption is that the names are real. Obviously, if he believes there is even a chance they are wrong, he should desist. And if he can't even find one group of names with a high probability of it being the actual person, I'd say he should shitcan the whole thing.
Realistically, he has probably outed real racists as well as outing some innocent people. I imagine that most people don't take many more steps to hide their identities if they are of the mistaken impression that they are anonymous from the get-go. They may, however, be posting from someone else's machine in the course of their other activities, and that could generate a false identification as well.
Needless to say, this is not something I would do, for many reasons. Still, assuming that his data is actually correct, I am not sure that you have the right to not be publicly shamed by your own words.
Looks like the blog is gone.
I guess tumblr was afraid of the slashdotting they were about to get.
Here's a map someone made a week ago:
http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2012/11/where-americas-racist-tweets-come-from/265006/
Sheesh, evil *and* a jerk. -- Jade
Any post critical of Obama is, by new definition, racist.
Yea, there is a reason the Dick never wanted anyone to know where he was.
Don't know something? Look it up. Still don't know? Then ask.
It's just dumb kids with poor upbringing.
Maybe he hopes someone like maybe the Black Panthers will visit them.
who would want to assassinate the people who lost?
Gee, didn't see too many complaints about all the threats of assassination, riots, fire, and general mayhem that were made against Romney.
Or Romney
When Fascism comes to America, it will call itself Anti-Fascism, and tell you to give up your guns.
It's something more: it's called bullying (through verbal harassment). Now, are we gonna accept bullying as a right, too?
Yes. As part of having the right to free speech, others have that same right.
But you (unintentionally, I presume) make light of "real" bullying here, which goes far, far beyond "speech". Those chronically bullied very quickly become numb to mere words, and would gladly put up with that over what they actually endure.
Not under NDAA (Obama's Law)
You mean that thing that congress hashed out and sent him to sign?
It's funny how people's understanding of how government works goes right out the window as soon as they find a talking point to latch onto.
--Jeremy
Jesus was a liberal
I looked through the cached page, and it was a little disturbing to see a false positive. Specifically, Hallie C. She may or may not be a racist, but clearly the evidence that I saw on the blog was not sufficient to call her one. Apparently she complained that proposed race-based quotas would remove a requirement to work hard in order to get a job (which seems plausible, since it de-emphasizes merit-based competition in order to consider instead the color of your skin). And so our blogger claimed she was saying black people are lazy. Whatever, dude.
Also, the chairman of the Maine Republican party. If black people are not known to live in a town, yet they are bused in to vote, it is legitimate to ask questions about that. Sorry, it just is. If he's mistaken about the demographics, let him be duly raked over the coals for crying wolf unnecessarily. But why call him a racist for apparently being a watchdog against voter fraud?
This blogger was apparently in over his head, and most definitely does not have my respect. Glad his site is down.
Maybe these racists (but you won't see this on the geomapping racist tweets site (or cbs, nbc, msnbc, salon, mediamatters, thinkprogress, nyt, washington post, chicago sun times, St. Petersburg Times, charlie Rose, GMA, SacBee, LaTimes, BBC, BostonGlobe, CNN, Huffpo, Politico, UKGuardian, or the several hundred other top circulating political news/blogs).
The idea in the US is that you really try to only bring people you are fairly sure are guilty to trial. A trial costs a lot of money and majorly disrupts a person's life. You don't say "Just take them to trial, it'll get all sorted out there."
In the case of an affirmative defense, like self defense, what should happen is the police investigate the situation and determine if the affirmative defense holds water. If it doesn't, they then had it off to the DA for charges.
So "Wait for the facts," is indeed appropriate. You would probably like the same courtesy extended to you if you were suspected of a crime. You'd like them to see if there is a reason to actually charge you, not just toss you in a trial and let that sort it all out.
Also there's the issue that you don't want to go to trial if you aren't ready, or you can well lose. If the state goes off half-cocked and charges someone with little to no evidence, their lawyer will likely file a speedy trial motion to push for a fast date, because they know the state will be screwed.
Please feel free to make racist comments about GOP politicians with impunity. Remember the thinly veiled racist comments hurled at Cain by the Liberal side of the media during the primaries? As for citing sources, do your own research or dismiss this entirely. I don't care.
They're protected by Federal Law. Can't publish information about persons under the age of 13 on the internet. At lease not in the states.
That leaves one question - if, as you say, freedom of speech and process of law has been abandoned by the evil nigger in the WHITE house - why in hell are you still here to post your idiotic drivel? Why haven't THEY whisked you away without lawyer, court, nothing? Why haven't you been drone-bombed? Could it be because your theory is just a huge steaming pile of utter bullcrap? No, really?
Ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem appellant.
There is nothing illegal about exposing racists to the public either. Where does legality even enter the picture with regard to this story?
Ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem appellant.
and it's only a matter of time before someone decides to shoot you in the face. And you know what? You'll have deserved it.
Some entries involve racial slurs or threats of secession; others advocate openly for the assassination of Obama
1. So we have threats of secession which seems to happen every time a new president is elected. How quickly we forget what conspiracy nuts were spouting off about Bill Clinton while he was in office.
2. Racial slurs
3. Finally we have death threats.
Parse "death threat" carefully... TFA cites an example "I want an assassination" this by itself is not a death threat. Wishing someone to be killed is not the same as threatening or otherwise conspiring to have them killed.
While the people behind the racial slurs may find themselves in legal trouble
WTF? Why? The only way "free speech" and "freedom" work in society is tolerance of the bullshit of others.
In the USA nobody should be in "legal" trouble for dreams of secession, popping off slurs or wishing someone dead. Obviously there may incur other costs for being an asshat.
Legal trouble should only be limited to those who have actually made threats.
If you don't like the concept of freedom of speech then by all means feel free to move to Europe.
Actually it's a kind of stalking, harassment, bullying, whatever. If someone compiled a list of the addresses of the hottest elementary schoolgirls I would hope it would be taken down before those girls could be spoiled.
Can we get a list of homosexuals, so that they can be avoided too?
I'd think it cool if they were equal in coverage and also pointed out the racists on the other side of the race and/or political spectrum as well. They are there....just conveniently ignored usually.
akma
The original blog hellothereracists.tumblr.com seems to be back up.
Maybe these racists (but you won't see this on the geomapping racist tweets site (or cbs, nbc, msnbc, salon, mediamatters, thinkprogress, nyt, washington post, chicago sun times, St. Petersburg Times, charlie Rose, GMA, SacBee, LaTimes, BBC, BostonGlobe, CNN, Huffpo, Politico, UKGuardian, or the several hundred other top circulating political news/blogs).
Which just goes to prove that there are assholes in every group. Sadly, no artificially (skin pigmentation, socio-economic status, religious creed, ethnicity, geographic location, etc., etc., etc.) defined group (well, except one -- I'll leave that identification as an exercise for the reader) is free of bigots, jerks and scumbags.
No, no, you're not thinking; you're just being logical. --Niels Bohr
The website “Hello There, Racists!” appears to be 'outing' anyone who tweets or otherwise makes it clear they don't support Obama. The article states - 'Although its subjects clearly oppose Obama’s re-election, not all of them explicitly identify themselves as Republicans. Some also state specifically that they are not racist.' It's sort of an online House Committee on Un-American Activities for the internet.
'I don't know what it's called. I just know the sound it makes, when it takes a man's life.' ~ Four Leaf Tayback
This is not crippling free speech. It's not the best way to go about things, but he did nothing to silence the free speech of these people.
You never had the right to call for the assassination of the President, so yeah, nothing's changed.
There's a huge difference between homosexuality, which is something you're born with, and being a dumbfuck, which is something these people chose.
It's reminiscent of people using the Freedom of Information Act to get the list of people who signed petitions for politically incorrect ballot proposals for the admitted purpose of harassing them.
The Supreme Court, while allowing the request, noted this was a troubling thing, a hint Congress might want to look into it.
(-1: Post disagrees with my already-settled worldview) is not a valid mod option.
And you're a fucking idiot if you think they would do that for some dumbass casual racist on Twitter.
Now if you actually did plan to assassinate the President, and had gotten far into plotting it, then perhaps some advanced tactics might be warranted.
Perhaps you should check out the history and circumstances surrounding that whole thing. Assholes like you are always trying to paint things in black and white when it suits your agenda.
So if they have that right, then don't we have the right to out them and call them shitheads?
Huge Difference: The author of the blog is not calling for the assassination of the President, nor is he spouting incredibly hateful and racist shit about him.
So those people are free to use their "freedom of speech" to publicly wish for violence or death to befall the President, but you don't want to out them because it's possible that someone else might wish that on them? That's a pretty shitty justification.
over the past 4 years I have learned several new things about racisim.
1. If you care about the future of the country.. you may be a racist
2. If you have children and you care about their future.. you may be a racist.
3. if you feel that businesses that are run badly should not be bailed out by the government.. you may be a racist
4. If you buy american goods.. you may be a racist
5. if you belive crime should be ileagal.. you may be a racist.
etc... feel free to add
Yet the blogger is an anonymous coward who cannot even reveal their name, while outing others.
The blog has no merit, and hopefully they find out who it is, you know, just out of fairness to out the blogger.
If he assassinated his character, is it a suicide?.
*Repent!Quit Your Job!Slack Off!The World Ends Tomorrow and You May Die!
It is not wanting to see black people die that is wrong, it wanting to see any people die that is wrong. If you make it illegal to want to see black people die then that is unfair on people who get attacked because they have red hair or a big nose. We are not fighting racism by bringing out racist laws, we are encouraging it.
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No
i spent five minutes thinking and all i got was this crappy sig
advanced tactics like due process you know evidence, trial, judgement - you know that sort of thing, yeah they would be warranted.
i spent five minutes thinking and all i got was this crappy sig
Remember the old ink blotters. Teenagers like all infants are just reflecting whats said in their home, club or whats passed on down to them. OK
Then it's his equivalent of autoerotic asphyxiation. Maybe there'll be a film with a sad ending.
I would hope the press would get hold of it before the cover up.
Headlines " Obama Chokes on Clintons Cigar, Biden Lights Up"
*Repent!Quit Your Job!Slack Off!The World Ends Tomorrow and You May Die!
Vigilantism IS illegal, and a site that incites people to acts against stupid racists, no matter how justified, is morally culpable for the results.
-Styopa
Forgive the assumption, but I could bet real money that you're white and male. You might feel differently if you were judged your whole life on appearance alone.
From the way his post was framed, I'll bet you're right. I'm a white male as well. What I'm curious about: you seem (and forgive me if the strawman attacketh) to take issue with his post. What about it bothered you? My liberal-libertarian Spidey sense is tingling...
I've worked at a very liberal university in the past, and half of those motherfuckers would institute the thought police if they could.. if often seemed that the only correct opinion about anything was one that bashed white males. Just remember, while my freedom of speech does have consequences for me, (second potential strawman alert) you have no right to not be offended.
So if they have that right, then don't we have the right to out them and call them shitheads?
Absolutely. Call them out, call them shitheads, let the world know their idiocy - They want to "speak", give them as wide an audience as possible so we all know "the enemy".
This thread has nothing to do with calling a spade a spade, however - It started with "you are free to say anything you want as long as your ok with consequences of the men in black suv's showing up and putting you down sans trial under patriot act anti terror legislation". Outing bigots, I have no problem with. Taking away their right to free speech with a web of capricious laws that favor certain types of speech, absolutely not even remotely okay.
I may mock you mercilessly as seven different kinds of idiot who should refrain from contaminating the future gene pool of the human race, "but I will defend to the death your right to say it".
Man! Can I see that study? I'll hire a few universities to counter it and profit! I'd love to finance all the lawsuits against people fired for being dumbfucks since that will provide a legal foundation similar to the homosexuality foundation which you guarantee us exists.
For a nation hailing your great freedoms, you sure are a country obsessed with trying to punish, vilify and limit one another to whats "proper and respectable"
How com,e he isn't outing all of the posters who said they were going to kill Mitt Romney if he won. Is it because they are predominantly B***K
The new right fascists are bilingual. They speak English and Bullshit.
All I can say is good riddance.
Huge Difference: The author of the blog is not calling for the assassination of the President, nor is he spouting incredibly hateful and racist shit about him.
Perhaps not, but he is endangering the lives of other people by posting their addresses online.
In some instances, that could be considered a "direct and actionable threat" on the lives of the people he's outing. At the very least, he's opening himself up to potential civil consequences, if not criminal.
Threatening other people's lives is illegal; being a hateful, racist moron is not.
An enigma, wrapped in a riddle, shrouded in bacon and cheese