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Apple Patents Page Turn Animation

An anonymous reader sends this quote from the NY Times Bits blog: "If you want to know just how broken the patent system is, just look at patent D670,713, filed by Apple and approved this week by the United States Patent Office. This design patent, titled, 'Display screen or portion thereof with animated graphical user interface,' gives Apple the exclusive rights to the page turn in an e-reader application. ... Apple argued that its patented page turn was unique in that it had a special type of animation other page-turn applications had been unable to create." The article doesn't really make it clear, but this is for the UI design of showing a page being turned, not the actual function of moving from one page to another. That said, the patent itself cites similar animations in Flash from 2004.

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  1. The facepalm is strong with this one. by ilsaloving · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There are an insufficient number of Picards to adequately supply the amount of facepalm this requires and deserves.

    1. Re:The facepalm is strong with this one. by NettiWelho · · Score: 5, Funny

      There are an insufficient number of Picards to adequately supply the amount of facepalm this requires and deserves.

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    2. Re:The facepalm is strong with this one. by bhagwad · · Score: 5, Insightful

      But...they need to protect the BILLIONS of dollars in investments they spend in R&D! You think this page turning animation is just common sense or something?

    3. Re:The facepalm is strong with this one. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Has someone patented flipping on a light switch yet, or spinning a dial? I think we can sue Apple into oblivion if we just patent everything used in skeumorphic designs.

    4. Re:The facepalm is strong with this one. by craigminah · · Score: 4, Funny

      I read on the Internets Apple just patented the process of sueing some entity; from henceforth, anyone caught violating that patent will ironically be sued.

    5. Re:The facepalm is strong with this one. by Scarletdown · · Score: 5, Funny

      Picard is insufficient to express the retardedness of this patent. Must go even higher to epic proportions in the facepalm department.

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    6. Re:The facepalm is strong with this one. by aevan · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Page turn animation is to an e-reader what 'typewriter noise' is to a keyboard.

    7. Re:The facepalm is strong with this one. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Page turn animation is to an e-reader what 'typewriter noise' is to a keyboard.

      /. is full of Model-M enthusiasts; are you sure that's the analogy you wanna go with?

    8. Re:The facepalm is strong with this one. by tbird81 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      But this is the first time Apple did it. Before then it wasn't innovative.

  2. So how does the US patent system actually work? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So how does the US patent system actually work? You apply and automatically get a patent then it's up to the courts to decide whether it's legitimate or not latter? Why bother having a patent office at all if they don't knock down crap like this?

    1. Re:So how does the US patent system actually work? by GPierce · · Score: 5, Insightful

      There was a time when parts of the federal government actually did an honest job - most of the time. Drug regulators actually blocked marketing of drugs that were dangerous to your health. The SEC kept crooks from selling dishonest investments. The Bureau of Land Management kept people from buying horses and selling them to slaughterhouses.

      Some time in the last thirty or so years, large parts of government (and private enterprise) became thoroughly corrupt.

      The patent office is just one more example where a bought-and-paid-for-congress (along with the patent office bureaucracy) modified the rules so they no longer protect the public interest - they protect Corporate America.

        If you have a valid patent, you can't afford to defend it. If some corporation has a completely bogus patent, you can't afford to challenge it.

      Read up on the Enclosure acts of the early 18th Century. At this time the aristocracy essentially invented our modern form of private property. Intellectual property is a modern day way of inventing something new - Intellectual property rights that didn't really exist until someone bought the right politicians. Much of it is a form of governmental theft covered up by a concept (patents) that was once honest and a benefit to everyone.

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  3. BeOS had this in the late 1990's by Bill+Hayden · · Score: 5, Informative

    BeOS had a 3d demo program with this exact functionality in the late 1990's!

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    1. Re:BeOS had this in the late 1990's by Bill+Hayden · · Score: 5, Insightful
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  4. Re:-1, Sensational by girlintraining · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This one even cheerfully tells us how to think, calling us to see the patent system as broken because of one particular patent. The sensationalism really adds something to Slashdot... It's not like I come here for actual news or anything.

    Yeah, it's hard to imagine how a broken patent system, the traditional means by which inventors protected themselves from large businesses' simply taking their idea and adding it to their product line, thus eliminating any monentary incentive for innovation, would be of interest to a site that caters to inventors, tinkerers, engineers, etc. We should probably just drop any discussion about the trend of rising illiteracy, the "brain drain" to other countries, how many entrepreneurs are starting up in China to cut through the exorbinantly high costs of doing business here, all due to legal fees, and how small businesses here often now have to hire more lawyers than engineers. Discussing a pervasive and growing problem in our industry isn't thinking really, it's just repeating dogma, and nothing good has ever come from a group of like-minded citizens getting together to discuss the common problems of their community.

    I'll just be over here now, reading the "actual news" then. Things that matter like sex scandals, new hair-styles for this winter, and what ring-tone best fits my personality...

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  5. It's a design patent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's a design patent, not a utility patent. That means it's all about the artistic properties. For example, the BeOS page turning looks very different, so it doesn't apply. Coke has a design patent on the shape of the Coke bottle. It doesn't seem so unreasonable that Apple's artwork is different and distinctive.

    1. Re:It's a design patent by Anubis+IV · · Score: 5, Informative

      It's an odd day when an AC has something more insightful to say than everyone else, but that's the case here.

      Since this is a design patent, it only covers the ornamental aspects (in fact, the methodology and the like were specifically excluded in the patent, since the patent cannot cover any function). As such, others are welcome to make page turning animations (in fact, IBM had a VERY similar patent back in '95 that was cited as a reference by Apple) as much as they want, so long as it doesn't look like Apple's implementation. As the AC pointed out, the BeOS design looks nothing like Apple's, so it wouldn't act as prior art that could invalidate the patent. Even the IBM patent, while similar, is not close enough.

    2. Re:It's a design patent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Who decides what is "close enough"? If i want to make a page animation, how do I know I am not infringing? Does the patent list the exact set of design features that must be met to satisfy infringement? What if my animation has all of those features except 1, am I infringing? What is to stop Apple from suing me anyway because I cannot afford to defend in court?

  6. I hate page turning animation! by NixieBunny · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why, oh why, do coders think it's a good idea to waste time pretending that every computer page is a paper page by making the corner flip up and move over? It's slow and distracting and adds nothing to the user experience except aggravation.

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  7. Re:Hyperbole by Nerdfest · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I frequently hear here that algorithms were explicitly excluded from patent protection.

  8. Re:-1, Sensational by GPierce · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Another brilliant thinker who can't tell cause from effect. The patent system is not broken because of this patent. This patent was approved by the patent office BECAUSE the system is broken.

    The article doesn't tell us what to think or how to think. It's just a wake-up for those who are already capable of thinking.

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  9. Re:Notebook by gnasher719 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Circus Ponies' Notebook.app has had a very similar animation from the beginning and has been continuously available on the NeXT/OSX platform for about twenty years. It was announced for iPad on 2011-08-11, three months before Apple filed.

    It's a design patent. If the other animation that you mention is very similar, then an exact copy of that other animation is not infringing (on Apple's design patent); an exact copy of Apple's animation is infringing, and something that is close would be difficult to judge.

    Guys, remember that this is a _design_ patent. And it protects the design of _one_ way to animate turning over a simulated page in an eBook reader. There are gazillions of ways to do such an animation. Some look better, some look less good. One of them is now covered by a design patent, that's all.

  10. Re:Atari's "Arabian" by gnasher719 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Didn't this game have page turning animations in it back in '83?

    Quite possibly. I don't know it. However, this isn't a "patent on page turning animations". It is a _design patent_ (which is a totally different kind of thing than a _utility patent_), and it covers the design of one specific animation, that means how this specific animation looks. You could even use the exact some algorithm that Apple uses, changing some parameters to make the animation look different, and it wouldn't be covered by this patent. Unless the animation in this game looks _exactly_ the same, it doesn't invalidate this design patent. And if you create a new animation, unless it looks _exactly_ the same, it is not infringing on this design patent. What you are _not_ allowed to do now is to make an exact copy of this animation.

  11. Nothing wrong with this patent by afgam28 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Come on guys, the ignorance being displayed here is embarassing. Apple has not patented the general concept of turning a page. They've just claimed the rights to their specific page turn animation, that's all.

    A lot of people here clearly don't understand what a "design patent" is, and how it differs from a utility patent and copyright. Here's an example of what they all mean:

    Copyright: would apply to the code that implements the animation.
    Design patent: would apply to the animation itself.
    Utility patents: would apply to the general idea of turning of a page in an ebook.

    This is the claim from the design patent:

    The ornamental design for a display screen or portion thereof with animated-graphical user interface, as shown and described.

    Note that it only covers the animation as shown and described. If you use a different animation, you're not infringing.

    So calm down everyone. The patent system may be broken, but this is not an example of it.

  12. Re:A prior art ? by rtb61 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Basically prior art has been thrown out by the US patent office in favour of, if it hasn't been patented yet patent it and let them sort it out in court.

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