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Fetuses Caught Yawning In 4D

Rambo Tribble writes "Reuters reports 4D scans have conclusively shown that fetuses do yawn. Understandable, eh? After all, all they get is cable."

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  1. Incredible by Zeroblitzt · · Score: 1

    I think that takes the cake for "jokes I've seen on Slashdot stories" this year.

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    1. Re:Incredible by rubycodez · · Score: 0

      You are likely a male, and also a moron of the highest caliber. Having sex should not be made the butt of a joke, because someone you know had a heart attack attempting it? Eating tofu should not be made the butt of a joke, because your nephew choked to death on a tofu hot dog?

    2. Re:Incredible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I just had a miscarriage you insensitive clod ... would be the appropriate think to say in that case.

    3. Re:Incredible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I think for about any joke you could find a situation where someone couldn't find the joke funny. Thus following your logic, jokes would have to be forbidden completely. Which would make a much poorer world.

    4. Re:Incredible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I just had a miscarriage you insensitive clod ... would be the appropriate think to say in that case.

      I'm an insensitive clod you insensitive clod!

    5. Re:Incredible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      My brother died from a lack of humor you insensitive clod.

    6. Re:Incredible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why do you have a hard on for the question mark?

    7. Re:Incredible by stms · · Score: 4, Funny

      Take it easy on him at least he's suggesting that some of us may be having sex. I for one am flattered.

    8. Re:Incredible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I find it really offensive that you should so casually mention grandmothers. My grandmother was a complete bitch and I don't like to think about her. I think you should apologise for your deeply insensitive post.

      She was also a feminist, so you should apologise twice.

    9. Re:Incredible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am highly offended by your use of the word "butt". Apologise immediately.

    10. Re:Incredible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fuck you.

    11. Re:Incredible by hawkinspeter · · Score: 1

      Please, fuck off

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    12. Re:Incredible by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 1

      Eating tofu should not be made the butt of a joke, because your nephew choked to death on a tofu hot dog?

      No, eating tofu should be the butt of a joke because it's tofu, for fuck's sake.

      (And I eat vegan)

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    13. Re:Incredible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      + 1 Informative

    14. Re:Incredible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      no one asked your pissy ass attitude old bitchy cunt.

    15. Re:Incredible by rainmouse · · Score: 1

      What if I was a slashdot reader who had just had a miscarriage?

      Are you seriously getting offended on behalf of other people who may not even find it offensive? You know nothing bad actually happens to you when you get offended right? It's a waste of time, just move on.

    16. Re:Incredible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      HOOOOOOOOLLLLLLYYYYY SHIT

      whatr the HELL

      WHATA FUCK MAN xD i just fall of my chair kuz i couldnt and i CANT stop laugh xDXDXDXDXDDDDDDDDDDDDXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD OMGOSH DDDDDXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD DDDDDD LOOOOOOOOOLLLLL THIS IS A SHIT hgXDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDXDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD A BIG ONE XDDDDDDDD A GRAT ONE XXXXXXDDDD CONGRATS MAN XD

      LOL I JUST LITERALLY

      PEED
      MY
      PANTS

      JUST A LITTE THUGH

      I MEAN ITS A LITTLE SPOT NOT LIKE IT RUINED MY CHAIR R NYTHING LOL BUT FOR REAL EPIC LULZ *HIGH FIVES* XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

    17. Re:Incredible by s0nicfreak · · Score: 1

      As a mother and the opposite of a feminist (I believe men should have equal rights), I find you an idiot that should stfu.

    18. Re:Incredible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because?

    19. Re:Incredible by drkim · · Score: 1

      I think for about any joke you could find a situation where someone couldn't find the joke funny.

      Happened to me...

      Was joking with a lady who had bought a lottery ticket about how, "...it was more likely she would be hit by lightning than win the lottery..."

      She glared at me and told me that she HAD been hit by lightning, and how horrible it was, and doctors had told her that it would shorten her lifespan, etc. Really ruined my comedic timing.

      In retrospect, I've wondered about the odds of me telling a "being hit by lightning" joke to someone who was actually "hit by lightning." And, I wonder if she won the lottery... :)

    20. Re:Incredible by Tixover · · Score: 1

      (And I eat vegan)

      Beardo - open invite round to my house because I have neighbours who are vegan and if you can finish them both off I won't have to hide the bodies...

    21. Re:Incredible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As a woman you're obviously the one who should be shutting her fucking mouth. Preferably by wrapping it around a penis.

      I'm guessing you're a single "mother" and for good reason.

    22. Re:Incredible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >>>/youknowwhere/

  2. A terrible pun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Someone needs to tag this story as "knee-slapper"

  3. You've Touched The 3rd Rail!! by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 0

    Incoming Abortion Flame War in 5...4...3...

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    1. Re:You've Touched The 3rd Rail!! by interkin3tic · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Abortion third rail on slashdot? Please. Climate change, that's more of a third rail than abortion.

    2. Re:You've Touched The 3rd Rail!! by fermion · · Score: 1

      Why we all know organism yawn and have feeling. Cats yawn and cry if you kill them. But I have to with any rand on this one. Fetuses, like cats, have no rights

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    3. Re:You've Touched The 3rd Rail!! by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 2

      The study was performed on fetuses 24 to 36 weeks in gestation. Casual abortion on fetuses of that age is illegal almost everywhere. I don't think this will touch of an abortion debate amongst the mostly male population of Slashdot, who either a) have never had sex, b) will have long since run away from any woman they impregnated by that point, or c) I know this is inconceivable, accepted fatherhood and are preparing for a new geeklet.

      Of course on other sites with actual women, they may decry the lack of parasite removal options after the 24th week and use this as some anthropomorphism of the parasite.

    4. Re:You've Touched The 3rd Rail!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If that were the pro-life stance I might listen to them. However, reailty steps in and they think killing live born babies who have survived an abortion after full term gestation should be allowed. I can't agree with that stance. Obama voted 4 times in IL to continue allowing babies who are born surviving an abortion to be killed. So you may not be in the pro-life camp, but I can assure you are no where near the pro-choice camp at all.

      Obama

    5. Re:You've Touched The 3rd Rail!! by reboot246 · · Score: 2

      They don't want to hear that. They ignored it in 2008 and now they're ignoring it in 2012. It just doesn't fit with what they say they believe.

    6. Re:You've Touched The 3rd Rail!! by JackieBrown · · Score: 1

      They don't hear it because the republicans (aside from Gingrich who has almost no creditably) don't speak about it. The same can be said about Catholic adoptions agencies that have to shut down in states that have legalized gay marriage.

      That story should have been the part of Ryan's response in the VP debate. It should have been advertised to show how extreme Obama's views were.

      In fact, I doubt anybody who gets their news from CNN or MSNBC have ever heard of that story but I'm sure they all heard of the idiotic rape comments those two republicans made.

    7. Re:You've Touched The 3rd Rail!! by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 1, Interesting

      So you may not be in the pro-life camp, but I can assure you are no where near the pro-choice camp at all.

      Yes. Honestly I don't care about abortion as an issue at all. I consider it a wasteful but necessary solution to human failings. If it were made illegal tomorrow I wouldn't start a protest, I'd hope a funding model was established that didn't involve ME.

      On one hand, this is something the anti-Obama/anti-tax/"fiduciary responsibility" folks should have in mind (and why I can't bring myself to vote with them):
      - Aborting unwanted children means less children on welfare and medicaid
      - Aborting children with detectable birth defects means less children with expensive medical problems on the dole, and less money to spend on special-ed, etc. (I have such a sibling, I can speak to his medical bills and to how effectively his tea-party governor has cut him off in recent years)
      - Government enforced abortion of children of parents who are already on some form of welfare or assistance is a solution to a problem that Fox news trolls on about for hours whenever "soshulism" comes up

      On the other hand, whenever I hear a pro-choicer rant on:
      - If you can't support a child, do not have sex. You fucking idiot. I don't want to hear from a grown adult that not having sex is somehow "too much to ask", we are not dogs, we can control ourselves, if you cannot you need to be locked up.
      - If you choose to have sex anyway, and do not want a child, use contraception. You twit. If you still get pregnant, a) legally the father should get hooked in and b) as an adult who is allowed to roam free and participate in society, you have to accept the consequences of your actions. If you cannot accept responsibility for your actions, you need to be locked up, I don't even want to drive on the same road as you.
      - At some point killing a child who is out of the womb and breathing stops being abortion, and starts being legal murder. I'm not sure I can be outraged on this, as I have what some might describe as a "sociopathic" viewpoint of right and wrong. I don't think life is magic and I don't think murder is necessarily wrong. I believe in an unwritten contract that we signed on birth, that says we choose to obey laws and police laws to promote the smooth functioning of a society that is undeniably in our best interests. We agree to follow these laws, or be locked up, or to be killed, or to be sent far away and left for dead (this last option isn't possible anymore). Killing your own children (born or unborn) seems to be a self contained concern, so the question is to what degree we would allow it before it becomes a social problem?

      Call me cold and heartless if you wish, I'm probably not on an individual basis, but when it comes to running a society the cute cuddly things we all tell each other starts to cost real money and we have to make calculated decisions. I don't approve of abortion at all, but I think it is in our collective best interests for it to be legal.

    8. Re:You've Touched The 3rd Rail!! by Belial6 · · Score: 1

      - If you choose to have sex anyway, and do not want a child, use contraception. You twit. If you still get pregnant, a) legally the father should get hooked in and b) as an adult who is allowed to roam free and participate in society, you have to accept the consequences of your actions. If you cannot accept responsibility for your actions, you need to be locked up, I don't even want to drive on the same road as you.

      Now, if only women would be held to the same legal responsibility that men are.

    9. Re:You've Touched The 3rd Rail!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pshaw. Some of us are trying to decriminalize infanticide.

    10. Re:You've Touched The 3rd Rail!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You should move to the Netherlands. They support abortion for decades now. They also support euthanasia. But of course, they haven't stopped there.

      Today, elderly Dutchmen are denied medical necessary for survival, instead receiving palliative care. It's not really palliative care, you see, these people don't want to die, and they wouldn't die if given (sometimes simple) treatments, they do not have terminal illness at all. Yet they die. It's much cheaper that way. (the exact rule is that extending someone's life by x% cannot cost more than 20.000 euro per year, otherwise care is denied. Once you get close to average life expectancy however, even a flue shot technically violates that (without flue shots, roughly 30% of >70 year olds would die off yearly), things that are often necessary, like small operations are routinely denied as too expensive and the people needing them given morphine instead)

      Of course, they're not stopping there. Proposal have been submitted to parliament to allow parents to execute babies in the first 6 months of life.

      You can call this the slippery slope argument, and it sort of is, I guess, but it really happens. I do not know where I'll retire, but sure as hell not in Holland. The mere fact that anyone does this bothers me enormously.

    11. Re:You've Touched The 3rd Rail!! by OeLeWaPpErKe · · Score: 1

      - Aborting unwanted children means less children on welfare and medicaid
      - Aborting children with detectable birth defects means less children with expensive medical problems on the dole, and less money to spend on special-ed, etc. (I have such a sibling, I can speak to his medical bills and to how effectively his tea-party governor has cut him off in recent years)
      - Government enforced abortion of children of parents who are already on some form of welfare or assistance is a solution to a problem that Fox news trolls on about for hours whenever "soshulism" comes up

      Killing you in the most cruel manner possible the day you go on a pension would provide the exact same benefits, yet it sounds like a much better solution.

      As you say:

      Call me cold and heartless if you wish, I'm probably not on an individual basis, but when it comes to running a society the cute cuddly things we all tell each other starts to cost real money and we have to make calculated decisions. I don't approve of abortion at all, but I think it is in our collective best interests for it to be legal.

      Exactly. You can call me cold and heartless if you wish but I say you need to get executed. Tortured first of course. It is in our collective best interest !

      (here's hoping some sarcasm can make you see the light)

  4. Won't see this on national TV news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    It would reduce the demand for abortions.

    1. Re:Won't see this on national TV news by lourd_baltimore · · Score: 1

      Abortions for some, miniature American flags for others.

  5. Ughh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How the hell is this "news for nerds"?

    1. Re:Ughh by Sulphur · · Score: 1

      How the hell is this "news for nerds"?

      Because the little thing was bored and thus well on its way to nerd status (if not already there). As for news, there was not a single new.

    2. Re:Ughh by Tim+the+Gecko · · Score: 1

      Because the little thing was bored and thus well on its way to nerd status (if not already there).

      Worst trimester ever!

    3. Re:Ughh by s0nicfreak · · Score: 1

      Because it is science?

    4. Re:Ughh by godrik · · Score: 1

      How the hell is this "news for nerds"?

      Super high tech devices used to see some useless details that explain the origin of a common biological phenomenon. That seems to be a reasonnable "news for nerds".

    5. Re:Ughh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have better question: how the hell is this news? It would be understandable if this would be the first fetus yawning video in the world, but actually plenty of people have them in their "my baby" folder.

      Steps for those interested in baby yawning:
      1.) open youtube
      2.) search for "ultrasound yawn"
      3.) enjoy videos of yawning fetuses

      It is off-topic and it is nothing new.

  6. Adults yawn too... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    ... when subjected to that much intrusive advertising. Clicked the article because I was really interested to see the video. First a full screen flash popover thing that completely obscured the page and forced me to find a 'close' button for it, and then a twelve second pre-video video. Screw it, close tab, I'll go somewhere else, and I'll also be wary of clicking links to reuters.com in future.

  7. 4D? by Stiletto · · Score: 3, Insightful

    WTF is "4D" supposed to mean when applied to ultrasound technology? They're 2D images of 3D objects. Can we finally measure the hyperfetus?

    1. Re:4D? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

      They probably are using the tech that currently.creates 3d images and making a movie ofthat. Thus....4d. The 3d ultrasounds are pretty cool.

    2. Re:4D? by dmbasso · · Score: 4, Informative

      It is supposed to mean it has height, width, depth and time.

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    3. Re:4D? by serviscope_minor · · Score: 4, Informative

      They're 2D images of 3D objects.

      Nope. Ultrasound gives complete depth measurements. So each time step is an (X,Y,Z) data cube (actually (theta,phy,time)->response ), where response is the magnitude of the received sound in the microphone. Therefore each elenment in the video is therefore the tuple (X, Y, Z, T)->some value, i.e. 4 dimensional.

      The video shown is just a projection, but ultrasound gives multiple depth readings, not just a single 2D manifold, so the raw data (obviously not the video here) is certainly 4D data.

      So yeah, ultrasound does provide full 4D data and the files are immense.

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    4. Re:4D? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can we finally measure the hyperfetus?

      David Bowman laughs are your limited perception.

    5. Re:4D? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      s/time/duration/

    6. Re:4D? by Jason+Levine · · Score: 4, Funny

      The fetus has a tiny Delorian in there with it.

      "Won't I run into the Uterus' wall?"

      "You're not thinking Fourth Dimensionally."

      "Yeah, I have a real problem with that."

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    7. Re:4D? by SuricouRaven · · Score: 2, Informative

      2D is the standard slice ultrasound. 3D is the voxel view that shows three-dimensional structure. 4D is just 3D, but with a fast enough computer to update smoothly. Usually 2D is the most use for medical purposes, as a skilled operator can put together the image in their head and see much more internal structure - but for an unskilled viewer, they just look like formless blobs. 3D/4D are most often seen in relation to the abortion debate, where they are the bane of the pro-choice side who can't quite come up with anything to counter the pure emotive imagery of 'Look at the cute baby suck it's thumb!'

    8. Re:4D? by Viol8 · · Score: 1

      And everything still looks like an assortment of blobs surrounded by splotches and patches. An imaging system that requires training to be able to understand what you're seeing really isn't a very good one. Though I suppose its the best we have at the moment for the price.

    9. Re:4D? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also, a video is a 3D image.

    10. Re:4D? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know, height, width, depth, smell...

    11. Re:4D? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So... 4D is a stop-motion video then?

    12. Re:4D? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      X,Y Images are collected in slices through dimension Z,
      Creating 3D images, which are collected along Time.

      Animating these 3D images in the order specified by the time dimension produces a viewable movie.

    13. Re:4D? by Nationless · · Score: 2

      Man, I can't wait until video games get the technology to not just be viewable static 3d models.

    14. Re:4D? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ever seen CT? MRI? Gamma? PET?

      Ever wonder why radiologists make so much money?

      Yawn. Move along, troll.

    15. Re:4D? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Every "imaging system" is practically worthless without the knowledge to interpret the results. Images from say FISH-microscopy are equally incomprehensible to the layperson, though it looks pretty "because color". And only because you might actually know "oh, thats a knee on that x-ray" does not mean you will spot the arthrosis because e.g. the subchondral cysts will only be "blobs and splotches" to you.

      Mind you, ultrasound has become really good lately. You wouldn't want to see images from the eighties in comparison to modern ones. And it is a dynamic imaging technique. Print-outs are only for documentation, seldom for interpretation. Every clinician worth his salt that wants to verify or understand the written diagnosis will want to re-sound it to see it first-hand.

      Source: I do that, though not yet for a living.

    16. Re:4D? by FreeUser · · Score: 1

      It is supposed to mean it has height, width, depth and time.

      By that definition, every "3D" movie we watch is actually "4D" (and I shudder to think how soon we'll probably see that marketing tripe in the wild).

      What's next? 5-D, because we shower the audience with water when it rains on screen too? Absolute bullshit. It's a 3d moving image.

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    17. Re:4D? by brunes69 · · Score: 1

      It's still a stupid naming convention. By that logic all 3D films are actually 4D films since they are not static pictures.

    18. Re:4D? by Culture20 · · Score: 1

      Most "3D" movies are merely stereoscopic, containing no more data than two 2D movies, one slightly offset from the other. This "4D" movie would presumably allow zooming, changing camera angles, etc.

    19. Re:4D? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      3D films are a set of 4D pictures, but they are still 3D films.

    20. Re:4D? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My god, you mean like some kind of 3 dimensional animation? Maybe we could even make it interactive.. Then add rules for winning and losing. I dub it a "video game"

    21. Re:4D? by Baloroth · · Score: 1

      Man, I can't wait until video games get the technology to not just be viewable static 3d models.

      I'll be impressed when they actually get 3D models, and not just a 2D representation of a 3D model (even stereoscopic displays aren't actually 3D).

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    22. Re:4D? by Nyder · · Score: 1

      Also, a video is a 3D image.

      No, it's a 2D image actually.

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    23. Re:4D? by Nyder · · Score: 1

      It's still a stupid naming convention. By that logic all 3D films are actually 4D films since they are not static pictures.

      3D films are actually 2D, using tricks to seem like it has a 3rd Dimension.

      Broadway shows are actually 3D if you watch them live. If you seem them recorded, they are 2D.

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    24. Re:4D? by Nationless · · Score: 1

      And I'll be impressed when medical projections get 3d models and not a 2d representation of a "4d" model.

      See where I'm going with this? Just because the data exists doesn't make it unique.

    25. Re:4D? by RabidTimmy · · Score: 1

      Does this mean my TV is 3D? It displays in height, width, and time.

    26. Re:4D? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, manufacturers are really missing out by not advertising 5D-HDTVs. They have the two spatial dimensions, time, brightness, and color!

  8. And? by Paul+Carver · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So do dogs. Cats yawn too. I'm not sure about mice.

    What's the point of this story, is there some burning question as to what organisms yawn? A yawning controversy I haven't heard of perhaps? Or some prospective line of in inquiry into the science of yawning?

    This story seems like a puff piece devoid of any significant detail or content worth posting to Slashdot.

    1. Re:And? by quantaman · · Score: 1

      I don't think it's considered a breakthrough but I suspect there's a couple important aspects.

      I don't believe it's fully known why people yawn, but if babies are yawning in the womb than that could shed some light on the question.

      The authors suggest it could be used as an indicator of foetal health, it may not happen enough to be observed reliably, but there's always some value in an additional piece of data.

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    2. Re:And? by Nyder · · Score: 1

      So do dogs. Cats yawn too. I'm not sure about mice.

      What's the point of this story, is there some burning question as to what organisms yawn? A yawning controversy I haven't heard of perhaps? Or some prospective line of in inquiry into the science of yawning?

      This story seems like a puff piece devoid of any significant detail or content worth posting to Slashdot.

      My cat sighs.

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    3. Re:And? by Patch86 · · Score: 1

      Well it is fairly interesting. Yawning (to me) is an activity which involves a large amount of inhaling and exhaling. Foetuses don't breathe, so that's kind of odd. Some people have mooted that yawning is a social (even socially learned) activity- the fact that foetuses can't have socially learned it is interesting too.

      Feeding it into the "is abortion OK" argument, though, is stupid.

      (Yes, mice do yawn by the way)

  9. This is silly. by SuricouRaven · · Score: 0, Redundant

    They breathe a liquid. They get no significent oxygen intake through it. They don't breathe, thus they can't yawn. What this really shows is that the fetus has an inbuilt reflex which, after birth, will lead to yawning.

    1. Re:This is silly. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When does the fetus become a baby?
      And when does an ass become a man?

    2. Re:This is silly. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm confused: do they not breathe, or do they breathe a liquid? And is breathing oxygen a requirement for yawning? I mean, I'm no fetus fetishist, but I'd say that if it's in there yawning, then it's yawning. That's the inbuilt reflex that it's exhibiting: yawning.

    3. Re:This is silly. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yawning is not all about breathing. Why would you post so authoritatively about something you are ignorant? Oh right, slashdot.

      Here's a link at your level

      http://faculty.washington.edu/chudler/yawning.html

    4. Re:This is silly. by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      My point exactly. It's confusing language. To say the fetus is yawning just leads to a debate over exactly what yawning is.

    5. Re:This is silly. by s0nicfreak · · Score: 2, Insightful

      A fetus becomes a baby the moment it exits the mother's body alive.
      An ass never becomes a man, it becomes an adult ass.

    6. Re:This is silly. by drkim · · Score: 2

      When does the fetus become a baby?

      Under the ancient Jewish tradition, the fetus is only considered a human once it graduates medical school.

    7. Re:This is silly. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This stupid stereotype has to go away. Jewish parents are proud of their kids no matter what -- whether they become doctors or lawyers.

    8. Re:This is silly. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

      Not according to liberals. In Chicago a live born baby that managed to survive an abortion is still able to be killed without liability to the mother or doctor. So your statement does not match up with the law in many places.

      In case you think that is just a single extremist left-wing single wacko saying so, Obama voted 4 times to keep allowing full birth aborion babies to be killed. I'm not sure why people keep claiming they are pro-choice but then lie when they try and explain the stance of the pro-choice movement, but you are one of them.

    9. Re:This is silly. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So is yawning alive? When is it alive then?

    10. Re:This is silly. by drkim · · Score: 1

      This stupid stereotype has to go away. Jewish parents are proud of their kids no matter what -- whether they become doctors or lawyers.

      You're talking Reform. I was talking Orthodox.

    11. Re:This is silly. by s0nicfreak · · Score: 1

      I'm not trying to explain the stance of any movement, simply giving my opinion.

      If a fetus was "young enough" (in gestation) to be aborted in Chicago it most likely was not old enough to survive long outside the womb anyway. So I'm going to guess that "killed" was more like humanely euthanized or allowed to die.

      I'm not sure why people keep using words like "killed" and "baby" when not really appropriate to try to win over the emotions of others, but you are one of them.

    12. Re:This is silly. by s0nicfreak · · Score: 1

      A fetus is alive until/unless it dies. The eggs used to make it were alive, the sperm used to make it were alive. They created an embryo which was alive, which then developed into a living fetus. But being alive means nothing. Women don't think it immoral to have periods - that's expelling an egg, which they allowed to go unfertilized, which killed it instead of turning it into a living fetus., A plant is alive, yet I have no qualms about cutting off pieces of it to eat. A bug is alive, yet I kill may every time I drive. A cancerous tumor is alive, yet if it were inside my body I would gladly cut it out and kill it.

      Yawning has nothing to do with being alive, as there are many things that are alive yet do not yawn.

  10. Re:Hurry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did your mom have any kids she didn't abort?

  11. Re:Hurry by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 0

    At least ten times that number starve to death yearly. We don't need more people.

    Also [citation needed]. Let's take a quick look at your math here. The US has what, 300 million people, half men. Let's assume half of women are sexually active and able to conceive. (So people that are too young / too old / not getting any) That's a total of 75 million people that could potentially have an abortion. That means that every year, one out of every 95 women is having an abortion and requires the assumption that they aren't using any form of birth control. That's frankly ridiculous. Your stats are bad and you should feel bad.

    Hunger info here:
    http://www.worldhunger.org/articles/Learn/world%20hunger%20facts%202002.htm

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  12. Caught the foetus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's about time. The little bastards had been getting away with it for too long. Now they've been busted (caught) from every possible angle. Yawning is a gateway to very wicked things. It's time they stop thinking that just because they are in a larval stage, that they can behave like larger humans. Next thing you know, they'll be rolling their eyes and shaking their heads and sighing.

  13. Caught Yawning? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Get back to work, stupid fetus!

  14. Re:Organism by Pedant · · Score: 1

    Just like Microsoft won the operating systems war. Read the dissenting opinions in Roe vs. Wade if you believe that battle can never go the other way.

  15. We opted... by Nexzus · · Score: 1

    ...for the 4D ultrasound for our little guy when he was about 6 months along in July '11. It was a pretty incredible experience. I could tell he was gonna get my nose. And yeah, we saw him yawn - got a still picture of it, and the whole session was recorded to DVD.

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    1. Re:We opted... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Gross.

      Looking at an ultrasound of a fetus is on bar with watching brain surgery, as far as hideous and grotesque things that make me recoil.

  16. Re:Hurry by ThanatosMinor · · Score: 1

    This is the most recent report I could find from the CDC and their numbers support the 790,000 claim, to a first approximation.

  17. Of course they yawn. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Have you ever heard a conversation between pregnant women/mothers? I'd like to see the 4D proof of one trying to block its ears.

  18. Re:Hurry by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 1

    Well, that's quite surprising. Thanks for the link, and FO is decent enough, that's all I did.

    I apologize for calling that number ridiculous and saying the GP should feel bad.

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  19. Re:Organism by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

    The right-wingers' alternative to abortion is abstinence-only sex education.

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  20. Re:Organism by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

    Oh sorry, and also "shutting the whole thing down" in cases of legitimate rape.

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  21. Speaking as a proud parent by Weaselmancer · · Score: 1

    I'm sitting here with my newborn daughter. And a couple of weeks ago we had this exact same ultrasound done. They handed me a picture that looked just like a single frame of this animation.

    And I couldn't help but think, "She looks like an end level boss from DOOM." Is it just me? These ultrasound pictures are somehow profoundly creepy. I could easily imagine something looking like that howling and throwing gigantic missiles at me.

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    1. Re:Speaking as a proud parent by Nyder · · Score: 1

      I'm sitting here with my newborn daughter. ...And I couldn't help but think, "She looks like an end level boss from DOOM." ...

      This is what i got from your post.

      I suggest you tell her personality is important.

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    2. Re:Speaking as a proud parent by Weaselmancer · · Score: 2

      It may be needed, it may not. I am assured she is a beautiful baby, but I think all babies look like Winston Churchill.

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  22. Re:Organism by briniel · · Score: 0

    The Right should spend their time and money on providing a realistic alternative than attacking it.

    Stay classy, huckamania. Enjoy your 4 more years of reckoning.

  23. Re:Organism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    It is alive. How that's up for debate is beyond me. Whether or not is has any legal rights, however, certainly is. If you're pro-choice, that's fine, but don't use terrible reasoning to justify it.

  24. Re:Hurry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Democrat pregnancy motto "Hurry up and kill it!"

    That baby will be one of the 790,000 aborted fetuses in America every year. I'm don't have a dog in the fight and ones toy don't care, it's your soul that has to bear the load, but I found that newly released number to be shocking.

    Did your mom have any kids she didn't abort?

    apparently not.

  25. I didn't think this was up for debate? by Lord+Kano · · Score: 1

    Four years ago, five months before she was born, I saw my daughter yawn in a 4D sonogram.

    LK

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  26. Double the commercial, double the fun! by i-pimp-nerds · · Score: 1

    A 30 second commercial for a 16 second video... seriously?

  27. Big question by grumpyman · · Score: 1

    It can yawn. It can move. Is it life or not?

  28. Yawning is contagious by polyp2000 · · Score: 1

    I Yawned just by reading the title of this post. (Its not that im not interested in the subject matter - just reading the word Yawn did it!) am i alone ?

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  29. Quaid..... by 16Chapel · · Score: 1

    Open your mind.....

  30. And so many condone abortions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What a travesty.