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Fetuses Caught Yawning In 4D
Rambo Tribble writes "Reuters reports 4D scans have conclusively shown that fetuses do yawn. Understandable, eh? After all, all they get is cable."
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I think that takes the cake for "jokes I've seen on Slashdot stories" this year.
Mr. America walk on by your schools that do not teach Mr. America walk on by the minds that won't be reached
Someone needs to tag this story as "knee-slapper"
... when subjected to that much intrusive advertising. Clicked the article because I was really interested to see the video. First a full screen flash popover thing that completely obscured the page and forced me to find a 'close' button for it, and then a twelve second pre-video video. Screw it, close tab, I'll go somewhere else, and I'll also be wary of clicking links to reuters.com in future.
WTF is "4D" supposed to mean when applied to ultrasound technology? They're 2D images of 3D objects. Can we finally measure the hyperfetus?
Abortion third rail on slashdot? Please. Climate change, that's more of a third rail than abortion.
So do dogs. Cats yawn too. I'm not sure about mice.
What's the point of this story, is there some burning question as to what organisms yawn? A yawning controversy I haven't heard of perhaps? Or some prospective line of in inquiry into the science of yawning?
This story seems like a puff piece devoid of any significant detail or content worth posting to Slashdot.
How the hell is this "news for nerds"?
Because the little thing was bored and thus well on its way to nerd status (if not already there). As for news, there was not a single new.
Because the little thing was bored and thus well on its way to nerd status (if not already there).
Worst trimester ever!
Just like Microsoft won the operating systems war. Read the dissenting opinions in Roe vs. Wade if you believe that battle can never go the other way.
Abortions for some, miniature American flags for others.
Yawning is not all about breathing. Why would you post so authoritatively about something you are ignorant? Oh right, slashdot.
Here's a link at your level
http://faculty.washington.edu/chudler/yawning.html
...for the 4D ultrasound for our little guy when he was about 6 months along in July '11. It was a pretty incredible experience. I could tell he was gonna get my nose. And yeah, we saw him yawn - got a still picture of it, and the whole session was recorded to DVD.
Karma: Can only be portioned out by the Cosmos.
This is the most recent report I could find from the CDC and their numbers support the 790,000 claim, to a first approximation.
Have you ever heard a conversation between pregnant women/mothers? I'd like to see the 4D proof of one trying to block its ears.
Why we all know organism yawn and have feeling. Cats yawn and cry if you kill them. But I have to with any rand on this one. Fetuses, like cats, have no rights
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My point exactly. It's confusing language. To say the fetus is yawning just leads to a debate over exactly what yawning is.
Well, that's quite surprising. Thanks for the link, and FO is decent enough, that's all I did.
I apologize for calling that number ridiculous and saying the GP should feel bad.
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A fetus becomes a baby the moment it exits the mother's body alive.
An ass never becomes a man, it becomes an adult ass.
Because it is science?
The right-wingers' alternative to abortion is abstinence-only sex education.
"When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
Oh sorry, and also "shutting the whole thing down" in cases of legitimate rape.
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I'm sitting here with my newborn daughter. And a couple of weeks ago we had this exact same ultrasound done. They handed me a picture that looked just like a single frame of this animation.
And I couldn't help but think, "She looks like an end level boss from DOOM." Is it just me? These ultrasound pictures are somehow profoundly creepy. I could easily imagine something looking like that howling and throwing gigantic missiles at me.
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rediculous.
How the hell is this "news for nerds"?
Super high tech devices used to see some useless details that explain the origin of a common biological phenomenon. That seems to be a reasonnable "news for nerds".
The study was performed on fetuses 24 to 36 weeks in gestation. Casual abortion on fetuses of that age is illegal almost everywhere. I don't think this will touch of an abortion debate amongst the mostly male population of Slashdot, who either a) have never had sex, b) will have long since run away from any woman they impregnated by that point, or c) I know this is inconceivable, accepted fatherhood and are preparing for a new geeklet.
Of course on other sites with actual women, they may decry the lack of parasite removal options after the 24th week and use this as some anthropomorphism of the parasite.
It is alive. How that's up for debate is beyond me. Whether or not is has any legal rights, however, certainly is. If you're pro-choice, that's fine, but don't use terrible reasoning to justify it.
If that were the pro-life stance I might listen to them. However, reailty steps in and they think killing live born babies who have survived an abortion after full term gestation should be allowed. I can't agree with that stance. Obama voted 4 times in IL to continue allowing babies who are born surviving an abortion to be killed. So you may not be in the pro-life camp, but I can assure you are no where near the pro-choice camp at all.
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When does the fetus become a baby?
Under the ancient Jewish tradition, the fetus is only considered a human once it graduates medical school.
They don't want to hear that. They ignored it in 2008 and now they're ignoring it in 2012. It just doesn't fit with what they say they believe.
Four years ago, five months before she was born, I saw my daughter yawn in a 4D sonogram.
LK
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They don't hear it because the republicans (aside from Gingrich who has almost no creditably) don't speak about it. The same can be said about Catholic adoptions agencies that have to shut down in states that have legalized gay marriage.
That story should have been the part of Ryan's response in the VP debate. It should have been advertised to show how extreme Obama's views were.
In fact, I doubt anybody who gets their news from CNN or MSNBC have ever heard of that story but I'm sure they all heard of the idiotic rape comments those two republicans made.
This stupid stereotype has to go away. Jewish parents are proud of their kids no matter what -- whether they become doctors or lawyers.
You're talking Reform. I was talking Orthodox.
So you may not be in the pro-life camp, but I can assure you are no where near the pro-choice camp at all.
Yes. Honestly I don't care about abortion as an issue at all. I consider it a wasteful but necessary solution to human failings. If it were made illegal tomorrow I wouldn't start a protest, I'd hope a funding model was established that didn't involve ME.
On one hand, this is something the anti-Obama/anti-tax/"fiduciary responsibility" folks should have in mind (and why I can't bring myself to vote with them):
- Aborting unwanted children means less children on welfare and medicaid
- Aborting children with detectable birth defects means less children with expensive medical problems on the dole, and less money to spend on special-ed, etc. (I have such a sibling, I can speak to his medical bills and to how effectively his tea-party governor has cut him off in recent years)
- Government enforced abortion of children of parents who are already on some form of welfare or assistance is a solution to a problem that Fox news trolls on about for hours whenever "soshulism" comes up
On the other hand, whenever I hear a pro-choicer rant on:
- If you can't support a child, do not have sex. You fucking idiot. I don't want to hear from a grown adult that not having sex is somehow "too much to ask", we are not dogs, we can control ourselves, if you cannot you need to be locked up.
- If you choose to have sex anyway, and do not want a child, use contraception. You twit. If you still get pregnant, a) legally the father should get hooked in and b) as an adult who is allowed to roam free and participate in society, you have to accept the consequences of your actions. If you cannot accept responsibility for your actions, you need to be locked up, I don't even want to drive on the same road as you.
- At some point killing a child who is out of the womb and breathing stops being abortion, and starts being legal murder. I'm not sure I can be outraged on this, as I have what some might describe as a "sociopathic" viewpoint of right and wrong. I don't think life is magic and I don't think murder is necessarily wrong. I believe in an unwritten contract that we signed on birth, that says we choose to obey laws and police laws to promote the smooth functioning of a society that is undeniably in our best interests. We agree to follow these laws, or be locked up, or to be killed, or to be sent far away and left for dead (this last option isn't possible anymore). Killing your own children (born or unborn) seems to be a self contained concern, so the question is to what degree we would allow it before it becomes a social problem?
Call me cold and heartless if you wish, I'm probably not on an individual basis, but when it comes to running a society the cute cuddly things we all tell each other starts to cost real money and we have to make calculated decisions. I don't approve of abortion at all, but I think it is in our collective best interests for it to be legal.
A 30 second commercial for a 16 second video... seriously?
It can yawn. It can move. Is it life or not?
I Yawned just by reading the title of this post. (Its not that im not interested in the subject matter - just reading the word Yawn did it!) am i alone ?
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- If you choose to have sex anyway, and do not want a child, use contraception. You twit. If you still get pregnant, a) legally the father should get hooked in and b) as an adult who is allowed to roam free and participate in society, you have to accept the consequences of your actions. If you cannot accept responsibility for your actions, you need to be locked up, I don't even want to drive on the same road as you.
Now, if only women would be held to the same legal responsibility that men are.
Open your mind.....
- Aborting unwanted children means less children on welfare and medicaid
- Aborting children with detectable birth defects means less children with expensive medical problems on the dole, and less money to spend on special-ed, etc. (I have such a sibling, I can speak to his medical bills and to how effectively his tea-party governor has cut him off in recent years)
- Government enforced abortion of children of parents who are already on some form of welfare or assistance is a solution to a problem that Fox news trolls on about for hours whenever "soshulism" comes up
Killing you in the most cruel manner possible the day you go on a pension would provide the exact same benefits, yet it sounds like a much better solution.
As you say:
Call me cold and heartless if you wish, I'm probably not on an individual basis, but when it comes to running a society the cute cuddly things we all tell each other starts to cost real money and we have to make calculated decisions. I don't approve of abortion at all, but I think it is in our collective best interests for it to be legal.
Exactly. You can call me cold and heartless if you wish but I say you need to get executed. Tortured first of course. It is in our collective best interest !
(here's hoping some sarcasm can make you see the light)
I'm not trying to explain the stance of any movement, simply giving my opinion.
If a fetus was "young enough" (in gestation) to be aborted in Chicago it most likely was not old enough to survive long outside the womb anyway. So I'm going to guess that "killed" was more like humanely euthanized or allowed to die.
I'm not sure why people keep using words like "killed" and "baby" when not really appropriate to try to win over the emotions of others, but you are one of them.
A fetus is alive until/unless it dies. The eggs used to make it were alive, the sperm used to make it were alive. They created an embryo which was alive, which then developed into a living fetus. But being alive means nothing. Women don't think it immoral to have periods - that's expelling an egg, which they allowed to go unfertilized, which killed it instead of turning it into a living fetus., A plant is alive, yet I have no qualms about cutting off pieces of it to eat. A bug is alive, yet I kill may every time I drive. A cancerous tumor is alive, yet if it were inside my body I would gladly cut it out and kill it.
Yawning has nothing to do with being alive, as there are many things that are alive yet do not yawn.