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Pirate Bay Founder Released From Solitary Confinement
TrueSatan writes "Pirate bay founder Gottfrid Svartholm is set to be released from solitary confinement but is still to serve the remainder of a one-year sentence relating to Pirate Bay activities. Five months remain of that sentence and they are to be served in a normal prison with far fewer restrictions on his confinement — assuming no new charges are brought against him. He had been accused of involvement in the hacking of Swedish IT firm Logica, but no charges have been substantiated in that case. He was later implicated in a second case but, once more, no charges have been substantiated against him."
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Why would a non-violent criminal be thrown in solitary immediately and also denied access to all but one visitor? I doubt it was to protect him from other inmates.
"Since then the Pirate Bay founder has been kept in solitary confinement, locked up 23 hours a day for weeks on end."
"Gottfrid wasnâ(TM)t allowed to meet anyone except his mother during his solitary confinement"
He and his mother have described it as such. I guess it depends on your threshold. He was allowed to receive occasional family visitors, but was held in a cell by himself 23 hours/day, which is a typical solitary-confinement setup.
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They thought they had Gilbert Gottfried in custody. An immediate trip to solitary seemed to be the only humane thing they could do for the rest of the prisoners.
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Thank you, Edward Snowden.
"Arguments from authority are worthless." —Carl Sagan
The powers that be are clinging hard to their ownership "paradise", demonstrating yet again that they are willing to simply trample upon the law when they can't change it enough to suit themselves. Decency and the good of society be damned, when they aren't clothing themselves in fake morality.
History is full of reactionary, entrenched interests struggling mightily to hold back change for the better, and failing every time but not before causing a great deal of damage and misery. A few people were burnt at the stake for using the Gutenberg press to print unsanctioned Bibles. Monarchists executed many democrats. The US Civil War was one of the most extreme cases. Today we have Big Oil fighting to deny that there is a global warming problem, to the point it seems they really would rather see hundreds of coastal metropolises drown or go to the prohibitive expense of building dikes along the entire coast, if that meant they could keep selling oil. Otherwise they would have to develop and tap new sources of energy. They might have to hire more engineers and scientists, and even train more, heaven forbid!
Big Media's hypocrisy is exposed again. What next? Would be nice if humanity advanced to the point that reactionary moves were immediately discerned and those trying any dirty pool were swiftly censured. Then these kinds of differences would be resolved before the mud or bullets flew.
Intellectual Property is a monopolistic, selfish, and defective concept. It is "tyranny over the mind of man"
I think I now understand why Assange prefers the Colombian embassy over going to Sweden to explain trumped up charges. If someone gets chucked into solitary before trial for running a business that is essentially similar to Google search, then I can't imagine what they will do to a guy that was accused of rape by two bar floozies. You are not paranoid if they really are out to get you.
Excuse me, but please get off my Pennisetum Clandestinum, eh!
Well, first you have to actually get INTO prison. That's the easy part. Get creative.
Once your there, assaulting a few of the guards ought to buy you some time in solitary.
Manning was (is?) totally isolated from his family and only got to see a guard every few hours that came to check on him being alive and people interrogating him. That's a bit different from being able to sleep and meet your family. Both aren't a situation where I'd would want to be in, but if I had to choose....
I was promised a flying car. Where is my flying car?
He was never IN solitary confinement
You have an interesting description of being locked in a small room for 23 hours a day and not being allowed visitors, including his lawyer.
What pray tell do you personally believe solitary confinement would be?
Ecuadorian embassy. Colombia has a right wing govnt. Ecuador a left wing one.
I take it you aren't familiar with what solitary confinement actually is.
It's disgusting that they would put him in jail over this.
He should be getting an award for founding The Pirate Bay, not punishment.
As a person who have myself been in the same situation as Gottfrid, in solitary confinement in a Swedish jail (häkte), I can assure you that it is a very demanding and unpleasing situation. The psychological and emotional effects of being in a small cell is very hard, much harder than it is possible to understand by reason. These cells are used by Swedish police to break people, to break hardened criminals, and for a normal person it is no easier.
Amnesty International has even issued criticism towards Sweden for the way solitary confinement is used by prosecutors, and this is no laughing matter.
What is interesting, to me, is the fact that charges of fraud and hacking seem to be handled in much the same way that treason and leaking state secrets are dealt with. In the case of treason, I can go a long way toward justifying solitary confinement, especially when the suspect has shown some possibly suicidal tendencies. In the case of mere fraud - no way. And, the suspect is far from suicidal, removing that little justification for close monitoring. More, there is no mention of solitary for his own protection, as was mentioned with Manning.
Tell me again which judicial system is more corrupt.
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It is guaranteed by law in all European countries including Sweden.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_6_of_the_European_Convention_on_Human_Rights
Well, first you have to actually get INTO prison. That's the easy part. Get creative.
Once your there, assaulting a few of the guards ought to buy you some time in solitary.
Its perfectly possible to get them to pay for your flights to the US too (and return flight on expulsion at the end of the sentence). It appears that the best crimes to commit are to provide links to torrent sites or to release US government information. You could take some tips from Julian Assange. WHat you don't want to do is anything like funding or encouraging terrorism or the courts will fight to keep you from the USA for years
There are very few countries in the world in general that use Common Law, it is however no requirement for a bill of rights or human rights. All European countries have equal protections [to the US Bill of Rights] and more by way of the European Convention on Human Rights.
What I find strange is that none of you considered the fact that he is convicted of the crime for which he is serving time. He subsequently fled the jurisdiction and is obviously not only a flight risk, has the ability to and great interest in destroying evidence against himself. It's perfectly understandable that the police would want him isolated.
Article 6 of the European Convention on Human Rights is a provision of the European Convention which protects the right to a fair trial. In criminal law cases and cases to determine civil rights it protects the right to a public hearing before an independent and impartial tribunal within reasonable time, the presumption of innocence, and other minimum rights for those charged in a criminal case (adequate time and facilities to prepare their defence, access to legal representation, right to examine witnesses against them or have them examined, right to the free assistance of an interpreter).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_6_of_the_European_Convention_on_Human_Rights
The presumption of innocence applies to the trial, not when gathering evidence. In the previous case for which he is serving time, he was awarded his freedom pre and post trial. He fled the country to escape justice afterwards! Now, they have every right to ensure he does not make arrangements to have evidence destroyed in the ongoing investigation [of the Logica case].
You may disagree with the conviction and the evidence in the previous trial, but it's a valid conviction as it stands. We have to respect the law and authority of Swedish courts.
As treason is effectively working against the interests of the government, these days copyright infringement probably qualifies.
At HAR2009 (see their website) I bought him a beer.
Will I be able to do so again at OHM2013?
Yes, criticised on the basis of the convention. It's a cause for concern, but it doesn't diminish the importance or value of the treaty in general or with regards to Swedish law. I'm also a Scandinavian (Norwegian/Swedish family) and a trained lawyer.
That you would attack the practice of "lay judges" surprises me! I find that it gives our system a democratic element without burdening the average citizen too much and avoids making a mockery of due process with American style juries. I think our system is excellent, full juries are not needed in courts of first instance. Are you Swedish by the way?
But then wouldn't tax evasion also fall into the same category?
He was never in solitary confinement because Swedish jails do not have solitary confinement, therefore he couldn't have been in solitary confinement. No, regardless of if he was, in fact, confined to a cell barely larger than a twin sized bed. That's irreverent, because as I said, they don't do solitary confinement in Sweden. It's also immaterial that he was, in fact, kept out of contact with other people; that certainly doesn't mean he was in solitary confinement.
The sad thing is that I feel the need to add this disclaimer that I am making fun of the people who fail at logic so hard. I meant it to be woefully obvious parody, but in re-reading it I see little difference between it and what at least a few people have posted in all seriousness.
No surprise they had him in solitary, they are going to make it rough on him because he ran. The guy went to Cambodia to avoid a 12 month sentence! Maybe things are a lot worse for prisoners in Sweden? I had a friend in the US who was sentenced for 20. He was out in 2. He would have been out even sooner but they were giving him classes and they wanted him to finish first. Now he has a new career from those classes! He also had access to an exercise yard and a playstation.
The fact that Sweden does not define its cell as "Solitary confinement" when they are in fact such, is a good example of classic political jokes.
Obviously they had to prevent him form whistling into a phone and starting WW3.
Troll is not a replacement for I disagree.
Governments can't do thing like this any longer. Revolution is coming
Yep, sure. O.K. Your single unspoken anecdote, unsupported by evidence, a description, or even the word of a pseudonym totally undermines my point. That sure is a strong argument.
Having only my own company 23 hours a day and being fed and watered for free sounds... absolutely awesome.
Which crimes can I commit in the UK to get this?
Try blowing your brains out wih an unlicensed firearm, we're pretty hot on gun control.
To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
But then wouldn't tax evasion also fall into the same category?
Only rich people evade taxes, so no.
To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
He was never IN solitary confinement
You have an interesting description of being locked in a small room for 23 hours a day and not being allowed visitors, including his lawyer.
What pray tell do you personally believe solitary confinement would be?
Obviously, if it wasn't 24 hours a day it wasn't truesolitary confinement.
To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
Sounds boring.
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Our crushers are widely used in the fundamental construction projects
Says a lot about Chinese manufacture if they need to be crushed before they are considered built.
This doesn't seem to jive, but I will admit it's an AC with no citations.
Still. Just because they don't call it solitary (how could they? they speak Swedish!) doesn't mean it's not.
For large sets, this will be our guide even unto death, for the LORD will work for each type of data it is applied to...
They become red-faced with anger when we defy their authority and trade amongst ourselves without their authorization
You can trade with who the fuck you want to, but that doesn't mean you get to use other people's work. Make stuff yourself if you want to trade.
To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
Tax Avoidance = Rich people. i.e Sending money to the Cayman Islands and having it come back as Capital gains. Tax Evasion = Poor people. i.e. Taking cash jobs and not declaring the income. Avoidance is the LEGAL minimisation of taxation due, evasion is the ILLEGAL minimisation.
New Zealanders are well balanced with a chip on each shoulder. One represents Australia, the other the rest of the world
The title of this article immediately proves itself to be false. This is a problem.
A person is in prison, in solitary confinement, and your title claims he has been released.
Your title: "Pirate Bay Founder Released From Solitary Confinement"
The implied meaning of these words: So and so HAS ALREADY BEEN released.
Immediately following those words, comes these: "...is set to be released from solitary confinement..."
Meaning, HAS NOT BEEN released.
This is a person who is sitting in a solitary confinement cell right now. Slashdot's usual piss-poor editorial standards have resulted in your site claiming he is out. Perhaps he will be released on schedule, perhaps not. I hope nobody made the mistake of believing this headline since it is not true and falsely represents that a political prisoner has been freed from solitary.
FIX YOUR EDITORIAL STANDARDS GODDAMNIT.
Every trollism an AC posts is prefixed, in my mind, with "A. Coward whined, in a weak and cowardly voice:"
Hear, hear.
Every trollism an AC posts is prefixed, in my mind, with "A. Coward whined, in a weak and cowardly voice:"
As usual when someone "understands" this they have the facts all wrong.
Not so important error: It's the Ecuadorian embassy.
Important error: He is in solitary so he will not disrupt an ongoing investigation for other crimes. Not for anything related to the pirate bay sentence.
I'm not saying it's justified to keep him in solitary for these suspected crimes, but at least get your facts straight.
But, but, the cash they got wasn't a payment. It was a loan. The guy just decided that getting it repaid would be too much of a hassle.