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Ask Slashdot: Keeping Your Media Library Safe From Kids?
Serenissima writes "I've spent many hours building my Media Library in XBMC and scraping all the DVD Covers and Fanart. And I love it, I can pull up movies on any computer or device in the house. I played a movie for my son the other day so I could get some cleaning done without him being underfoot. I noticed shortly after that the sound coming from the other room was from a different movie than I played for him. I snuck up and watched for a few minutes and saw him use a trackpad to navigate to the stop and play buttons of different movies in his folder. I know it's only a matter of time before he realizes he can see all of the movies. I don't want him to have nightmares because he saw the T-1000 stab someone in the face. The quickest solution I can think is a screen saver with a password. It's mildly inconvenient to me, but would stop him from accessing anything. However, I remember how much more I knew about computers than my parents when I was a kid, and I have a feeling he's going to surprise me one day. There's a lot of ways out there to stop it, the way we do it now is to not let him watch anything unless we're there (but there are only so many times I can watch the same kid's movie). How do YOU guys find yourself dealing with the convenience of running your own server while keeping your media safe from prying eyes?"
1. Make copies of the discs for them to use.
2. Put them on a media server.
How about just using Linux file permissions? Keep daddy's movies in his home folder, and have the XBMC under an unprivileged user.
Don't worry. You knew more about computers than your parents. You'll also know more about computers than your children.
RTFM
Did you even attempt to find something yourself?
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Create their own media server with only the content you want them to view.
One set of movies has "kids only" group permissions
The other set of movies has "Adults and kids" permissions.
Your son doesn't belong to the "adults and kids" group.
????????
Profit.
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BMO
If they're smart enough to figure out how to pry through complex systems and look at daddy's files, exposure to what they see will have a self-determining effect on them. Either they'll be scared of what they saw in the "grown-up movies" and will leave it alone (and you can talk it out with him), or the kid will find something he likes and expand his horizons a bit.
You don't say how old he is, but I generally believe that you've got to let curiosity run its course for everyday sorts of things like this.
Make a user for yourself and one for your child. A folder specifically for kids movies. Your child's account is limited and cannot access your users movies.
You can setup a macro to log out/switch user, and quickly log onto the kids account for movies. Keep password on your account.
Simple enough?
http://www.xbmchub.com/blog/2012/08/13/parental-control-for-xbmc-addons/
http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Video_Library#Parental_Controls
Load all child-safe movies into one folder, all other folders should be accessed via password protection. If you are as diligent as you seem, you can organize them based on their MPAA rating into folders, putting password locks on the others.
Instead of looking for a technical solution to do your job for you.
Yeah, i know. mindblowing for sure.
Kids require 24-7 supervision for about 16 years or they WILL get into something you don't like. 100% guaranteed. The only fix is doing the job you signed up for when you had a child.
"...nightmares because he saw the T-1000 stab someone in the face."
It builds character.
Alternative parenting phrases: Walk it off, and ask your mother.
Each family member has an account, parents have RW access everywhere, kids are generally RO or have no access at all depending on the folder.
I am not Remy Mouton, unfortunately: http://remy.mouton.free.fr/art/
use that concept. your player should only have visibility into the 'exposed' parts of your filesystem.
there are FUSE plugins, iirc, that can present partial views of your full/real filesystem.
the tv system would never see the full FS but your personal system (in a diff room that he should not have access to) would have full r/w view privs.
in a nutshell, that's what I would do.
along with that, the view concept can 'mount' the FS read-only.
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"It is now safe to switch off your computer."
the boy has the whole internet to peruse unless you have locked that down also... Seriously.. Are you actually running a walled garden ? If not all bets are off...
$ strings FTP.EXE | grep Copyright
@(#) Copyright (c) 1983 The Regents of the University of California.
How do I hide my porn!
Just show them Back Door Sluts 9, show them how it's done. Theyll see it eventually anyway so its better that they'd see it in a controlled environment. I saw the 'bad' stuff when i was just a wee boy as well, never did me any harm did it?
This nonsense of 'not showing the R-rated' stuff is mostly just to console the parents really. They knew they were wrong when they allowed a child to be born into this harsh and cruel world and would rather the child think that things are rosy for another couple of years until it is absolutely impossible to keep up the lie any longer.
...from a NAS device. Like you, I've spent HOURS getting all the TV cataloged, named correctly, and with images. Like you, I have kids I don't want watching certain things and I solve it thusly:
1:Create a share on your NAS which has the items you DON'T want them to watch and make it so that it needs a password or whatever credentials you need to connect to it.
2:Add the share to XBMC, but put it under a Master Profile.
3: Create another Profile for your younglings that can't access the shared files. Double bonus, since you password protected the share, if they do go scanning the network, they'll have to have to know the (hopefully) different password to mount the share with your non-kid content.
4:??? Profit?
Check this out: http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=108232 I think it will help you sort your media out with haste.
I know what you're thinking. Did I forward 65,535 packets or 65,536 packets?
Keep the child friendly stuff on one drive and the rest on another and unmount the other drive when you aren't in direct control of the box.
http://www.xbmchub.com/blog/2012/08/13/parental-control-for-xbmc-addons/
I hate sigs.
Teach your Son HOW to watch...what's good and what's bad and the reasons why. All you're setting yourself for with security is an arms race that you'll probably lose...
Set and communicate the rules and the consequences for breaking them, monitor compliance, and enforce the consequences if the rules are broken. If you force compliance with technology, your son won't learn what is and isn't appropriate behavior and you won't have the opportunity to build trust. And, believe me, you'll need that trust when he's older.
I keep my kids media in a different shared folder on a NAS with different file permissions. They have to login to my account to get access. Altho, now I'm going to have to also modify my netflix account to as I caught my pre-schooler typing the letters ironman into the Netflix search box as he read them from his comic book title, matching them up to what's on the keyboard. Hadn't needed any controls until recently, but get used to it, they're gonna watch you and learn, ALOT faster than you're gonna like.
but you can't google?
http://www.xbmchub.com/blog/2012/08/13/parental-control-for-xbmc-addons/
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While WHS has been discontinued (and may not be at all popular with the /. crowd) it is still what we use, on a small 5 TB Tranquil server. Parents have access to more folders than kids and guests.
I am sure other NAS-type products has similar user settings.
User profiles on our living room devices (PS3, Xbox, etc.) makes it easy to keep the restrictions in place.
Only problem is the tablets. They are not multi-user friendly so they have only been provided with the network credentials for the kids account. But it is seldom a problem - we rarely need to access the restricted folders from those devices anyway.
Get a network/storage system with user control. I am surprised you didn't come to that conclusion yourself. :-)
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Hi guys, the original poster here. Of course I knew about the parental controls in XMBC: After all, it's only one Google away! However, what I was really after, is the geek way to go about this. I was thinking of retina-scanning myself, though also some sort of Rube Goldberg device ultimately leading to the proper identification of the person watching would suffice. Anyway, thanks!
Here's what I do: To keep it simple, I tag all the "bad" movies as restricted. Then on the server in each room where a movie could possibly be played, I require that the server has an "adult present" token. At first this token was just a USB stick I carried around with just a certain named file on it (no crypto). A few years ago I switched to detecting the presence of a bluetooth device - my cell phone or a few other authorized devices. The server scans for the MAC address every 30 seconds, if it can't find it 3x in a row it disables playback of restricted movies. But you can use any convenient token.
I don't use this at home but at a non-profit I run (a haunted attraction). It's got a mix of adults and teen volunteers, and we have PG-13 and R stuff in our horror video library. The system has worked rather well, but I admit the security of it is based on obscurity - that the teens don't know what enables the restricted content! If they ever figured it out, I'd switch to a secure token.
Use VHS, he won't have a clue...
I'm pretty positive xbmc has parental controls built in, does it not?
I know my version does.
I've got a samba server with a share containing all of our media that's for my wife & I to watch. I've got a second, read-only share set up for the kids. The kid's directory has a bunch of symlinks to content that's suitable for them. It allows them to freely browse the media on their own, and I know exactly what they're accessing.
Treat your kid like an intelligent human being and implement the security measures the code has but no more. Explain to you child why but in a way that lets them weigh their own value system against their curiosity. We don't need more kids in the world that are mindless accepters of whatever is put in front of them. Allow them to make their own decisions and own the consequences for them, including nightmares.
If they break through the security, get them to show you how they did it, congratulate them, fix it and challenge them to find the next one. Turn that part into a game and you maybe able to give you child an advantage over 99% of the sheeple out there.
My ism, it's full of beliefs.
Next thing you know it's a gunfight in the kindergarten class.
Parental Controls, v-chip, etc.
The entertainment industry has been trying to do this for quite a while.
Limit playback to movies rated G or under - I'm sure that XBMC can do that... if not, it's open source, right?
Mark it read-only!! They won't be able to delete it then.
Can we be clear on this? Does "adult video" harm children? Have there been any studies on this? Really?
Let's see: Children who grow up around guns most often learn to respect and handle them properly. Children who learn early on about knives and fire early on are no longer curious about them either. And yes, "sex education courses!" Yeah, that watered-down class of PC speak is going to address all of their natural curiosities and natural insticts right?
Let's ask the question more properly shall we?
"How can I keep myself from being tossed in jail for violating some law based on presumed morality which has little basis in fact?"
P.S. When I was a kid, I saw porn. It didn't "harm me." I'm a normal guy.
My parents just used to label the naughty HBO show VHS tapes as football or soap operas =P
Just show them Back Door Sluts 9, show them how it's done. Theyll see it eventually anyway so its better that they'd see it in a controlled environment. I saw the 'bad' stuff when i was just a wee boy as well, never did me any harm did it?
This nonsense of 'not showing the R-rated' stuff is mostly just to console the parents really. They knew they were wrong when they allowed a child to be born into this harsh and cruel world and would rather the child think that things are rosy for another couple of years until it is absolutely impossible to keep up the lie any longer.
It's a typical US viewpoint that considers R-rated to be about how much skin is shown.
You really REALLY don't want to show violent movies to a 3-year-old. They aren't wired to process it in a healthy way. Even movies with intense emotional content (but non-violent) can cause months of nightmares. By the time puberty hits, such stuff can be handled somewhat; but a 3-year-old has trouble separating fact from fiction; to them, everything they experience is real in the same way.
If you're not concerned with a 3-year-old stumbling on the somewhat tepid live action version of Back Door Sluts 9 in your bedroom, you don't have to worry about it if they stumble on the film. But don't let them watch anything on film you wouldn't be comfortable with them seeing in real life, because for them there's not much difference (they can "tell" you when something's pretend or real with training, but it's still being processed in the same way inside their heads; separate neural pathways for the two sets of stimuli doesn't develop until later).
How do I keep the kids from finding my multi-TB pr0n library?
I would use different directories with different levels of security. One for movies you have cleared for his consumption (G, PG-13, etc) this would have unrestricted access. Another directory for R (bad language, nudity, violence, etc) could be password protected, and (if needed) a third level for X or things that you REALLY don't want him seeing. These would be physically off-line (removable HD) locked in a closet/drawer etc AND password protected.
Can we be clear on this? Does "adult video" harm children?
Yes, it does.
I grew up with computers, and early on pressed my parents into getting me access to the Internets. I saw plenty of pixelated, low-resolution boobies and at the ripe age of thirteen, was having sexy IRC times with what appeared to be hawt nerdy college chicks.
I went on to become a systems administrator.
Parents, don't let this happen to your children. Teach them to be developers; they get paid more and don't have to wake up at 3 AM because some drunk C-level forgot his password.
did you try it
http://www.xbmchub.com/blog/2012/08/13/parental-control-for-xbmc-addons/
Keep all shares password protected with mounts/drives only available to xbmc PCs.
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P.S. When I was a kid, I saw porn. It didn't "harm me." I'm a normal guy.
When I was a kid, I didn't see porn, and it harmed me. I didn't know much about sex, didn't understand how to please women, shit, I didn't even realize how women masturbated till I was much older. Porn at least would of gave me insight on the art of sex and how to help switch it from a self act, to a pleasing act for the other.
Of course, practice makes perfect, but who wants to have sex with a guy who only knows how to please himself? Besides hookers.
Well, now you decided if I'm being funny or insightful.
Be seeing you...
The most affective way that I have found is to not have kids in the first place.
Just show them Back Door Sluts 9, show them how it's done. Theyll see it eventually anyway so its better that they'd see it in a controlled environment. I saw the 'bad' stuff when i was just a wee boy as well, never did me any harm did it?
This nonsense of 'not showing the R-rated' stuff is mostly just to console the parents really. They knew they were wrong when they allowed a child to be born into this harsh and cruel world and would rather the child think that things are rosy for another couple of years until it is absolutely impossible to keep up the lie any longer.
Little kids have enough to learn about the world without worrying about the finer points of sex. They'll see it eventually, and eventually is when they should see it.
And if a movie called "Back Door Sluts 9" is your idea of "how it's done", then I'm guessing harm has been done and you're probably doing it wrong. Porn is done for the benefit of the audience, sex is done for the benefit of the participants. Kids shouldn't be learning about sex from porn, and should only be seeing porn once they are old enough to understand the difference between the two.
To illustrate the point to an older child, maybe sit them down in front of their favorite computer game (do people still play WoW?) and film them. Constantly tell them that they are in the way of the screen. Tell them to change their armor or other aspects of their character because it doesn't look right. Get them to fight battles that are visually pleasing, not necessarily fun.
Somewhat surprised to find this hasn't been suggested already: remove all non-G-rated material.
If it's appropriate for adults it's appropriate for children.
I'm going to go with obvious. Sex is part of who we all are at so many levels. Disney has been making billions exploiting kids and sexuality. And doesn't everyone know that keeping something away from children only makes them want it more?
Safe from kids? Why wouldn't you want your kids to see things that are perfectly normal for human beings? You want your kids to be ignorant? Ignorance is a main cause of teen pregnancies, did you know that?
no, I don't have a sig
When I was a kid I loved horror movies. Nightmare on Elms Street, monster movies,
The best horror movie was with a monster that came from the sea and got people with tentacles and eat them. I think I had nightmares for weeks and I'm still looking for a movie that can scary me like I was 6 years.
I think the "reality" shows on the TV make way more damage to the young generation then any horror, action or porn movie ever could. So what if he gets a few nights nightmares? That is what to be a kid is all about.
As long as you don't have some really perverted movies, let him watch what he likes.
Kids get bad because of the parents not because of some movie.
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Why don't you just admit you don't want your wife seeing your collection of My Little Pony hentai?
You are welcome on my lawn.
Have gnu, will travel.
For the videos I really want to keep from prying eyes, I keep them in an encfs encrypted folder that only I know the password to, then I mount it when I want to use it.
It's all full of educational videos, of course.
good thing my parents never password protected the copy of the vhs tape with all the horror movies I loved to watch
You're welcome.
MythTV has a rating system with password protection depending on rating. You can have Myth grab the MPAA and use that or set it yourself. I don't think xbmc has that, but you could try out Myth. It's a bit more trouble to setup than xbmc, which really 'just works' OOB, but i think it's GUI is way better than xbmc.
We put the TV-MA and above content in a folder labeled, wait for it, TV-MA and Movies-MA - the majority of content is in the TV or Movies folders and the kid stuff is in the TV-G and Movies-G folders. We have six children from highschool down to pre school. We use plex instead of xbmc and there are no controls on plex. The kids know that we don't want them watching anything in the MA folders and why. We have to trust them to teach them to follow the house rules. The world is a complicated place and the kids have to learn how to deal appropriately with it. That starts at home. Not that it matters, but my wife and I are both elementary school teachers.
Why else would you feel the need to mount them?
BOOP!
I have a 6 year old son and a 9 year old daughter.
My NAS device exposes 4 folders: TV, Movies, Children's TV, Children's Movies.
In the only room the kids are allowed to watch unsupervised, the XBMC only has the children's 2 folders installed. In the family room and master bedroom everything's available (and the kids are always supervised in these rooms).
None of the computers hooked up to the TVs have keyboards or mice attached. The kids are allowed to control their XBMC using the iPad or old iPhone that runs the free XBMC remote application. (To keep costs down, their XBMC runs raspbmc on a Raspberry PI.) In our bedroom and family room we use a universal remote.
I suppose when the kids are old enough to mess with the configurations of the XBMC, I may need to be more careful. Though at that point, messing with the system would be considered a punishable offence.
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Honestly.. I think you should (also?) talk to your kids and explain your reasons as well as have trust in them to do the right thing - of course, some form of prevention at that early age is also needed, but don't forget the latter. Like you said, any security you'll put will probably be eventually broken by them, but it's always good to let them know the reason you're doing it..
It's kind of like the other issues you'll eventually face, such as smoking, early parenthood, drugs.. no way you can prevent them with all the monitoring tools in the world.. but if you talk to them and explain it, you could be surprised at the results.
Hope this helps.. Good luck :)
I mean, I hate to be the blunt jackass but it's really easy to do.
1) Separate things into movies/kid movies/cartoons/kid cartoon.
2) Separate user profiles in XBMC. Make the child's profile one-click logon and yours passworded.
3) Scrape everything in all directories in your profile, scrape only the kid folders in the child's profile.
It's really fucking simple to do, christ. I did it for myself and my girl's kids. There are NO risks and they'll never watch any adult cartoons that they shouldn't. The older they get, the more I can allow.
sudo su -
useradd dad
passwd dad
useradd son
passwd -d son
cd ~/movies
chown -R dad:dad *
chmod -R 500 *
^D
Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.
Don't put your porn on your share drive. Problem solved.
XBMC allows different users. Have your network share set with multiple user accounts, only give access to certain movies on the kid account. Then you can watch any kid-safe movie without a password, and you can watch anything at all with the proper password.
Unfortunately, children will explore and learn things you don't want them to regardless how much we will (or want to) shelter them.
That said, the solution my wife and I have is we tell them certain things are appropriate, and others are not. When they're older, they can view them, but for now it's not appropriate.
We have two Popcorn C-300s, and the media I don't want the kids to watch are in a separate directory called "Not Appropriate". That way, you don't have to go nuts with security and lockdowns, and your kids know what's there. Knowing the media is there but shouldn't be viewed also teaches them self-restraint.
When my cousin was age 4 I didn't want her to see Star Wars because I didn't want her to get ideas about empire. Now that she is 8, I wouldn't want her to see Terminator, because she might get ideas how to achieve that empire. Although her knowledge of the electoral college is impressive, so perhaps she'll go a more traditional route at first.
Some kids get nightmares, others get ideas.
Run two server instances on the same machine, turn the adult server on after the kid's bedtime from a cron job. (Although right now I ignore the problem, but I don't serve video, only audio, and the kids don't know how to navigate the player yet.)
Have you considered the possibility that parking your kid in front of the TV is not exactly a... well, a very interesting thing for the kid to be doing? If they weren't tired of your electronic surrogate parent, they might not be exploring the technology to see what else it offered.
You might be surprised at just how much family time you have if you get rid of the TV entirely. Having done so, you don't really have to worry very much about your media collection any more, do you?
Buy a humongous hard drive (3Tb is good). Make a giant Truecrypt partition, like at least 1 Tera, ensuring that it's the type that can accommodate files larger than 4 gigs. (NTFS for Windows, HFS+ for OS-X)
Copy all those movies to this partition while it is mounted. Unmount it... Then just mount it again with password when needed to either watch a movie or copy new ones into the partition.
If you run out of room, make a second partition on the same disk with the same password.
All done.
Under features: Add Config Filters i.e. for kids movies, documentaries, or adult films Password protection by config - protected films never display for other users, not even the cover or fanart! Only downside is that it is Windows only (but for me that is not an issue as my HTPC is also a gaming system, which requires Windows).
We were all warned a long time ago that MS products sucked, remember the Magic 8 Ball said, "Outlook not so good"
I have four kids, what I did was make root folders like kid safe, pg, pg13, adult, etc. Just four or five. I put the movies and videos in there accordingly. Then I give the kid's access to the folder for their age group. Works well, and they can add that network folder in their windows library to get indexing and other things as expected.
Imagine it man, Kids running around nude in Africa have more knowledge about real life than your sheltered children. They know how babies are made because they got the water from the stream and helped out with some other birth, rather than some nurse. They know of the finality and consequence of death and respect danger because they've gutted animals to help their parents cook, or even killed beasts themselves. Hell, these 3rd world kids will be giving back to their community while yours will be throwing tantrums about not getting some worthless toy -- And you're worried about censorship? Damn, seek professional help or chill, the actual fuck, out.
You didn't turn out all fucked up despite knowing so much more about computers than your parents, and seeing the things you did that your parents wouldn't have approved of. Your parents didn't even inform you about masturbation! Why are you raising your children to be so damn ignorant about the world? Look, I don't really care why. Thing is, you're a parent now, time to man up and delete the damn movies if you don't want your kid to see them, and you can't be troubled to actually learn how to fucking USE *nix file system permissions or set up accounts on a damn multi-user OS. I mean, you come HERE? Asking US?! "What would Slashdot have me do?" Well, first off I'd have you neutered, you ignorant son of a bitch (that's right, I just called your mom a bitch -- it's for not being OK with what you wanted to watch when you were a kid), then secondly I'd ship your kid to a 3rd world country where they may die, but at least they won't be brain damaged by the likes of a lamer like you!
I saw T-1000 stabing someone in the face as a kid and now have problems hiding the pr0n from my parents on the NAS.
XBMC supports user profiles. I have a Kids, General, Mature profile. The kids can watch whatever is in the Kids profile, no pin set, and so can any carers. The General is Kids+ the rest of the movies and TV shows which it is okay for the content to be watched while we are nearby to supervise/explain. General is what I would generally have loaded by default. Mature is any video/TV that I don't want the kids to watch yet - pin protected. So far it works really well. Just have three directories per set that hold the content as you decide they fit the scheme. Kids only reads from TV - Kids and Movie - Kids, General reads Kids + General, Mature reads Kids + General + Mature etc.
I just can't be bothered.
and they won't watch a single frame of it! (It works every time.)
By the time he's able to surprise you on that front, it'll probably be okay for him to see the T-1000 stabbing someone in the face.
Why is everybody over-complicating this so much? Our children ask for the movie they want, we put it on and then put the control out of their reach.
No setup needed.
XBMC allows multiple accounts, each with it's own set of video sources. Place all of the kid-friendly videos in a folder and set it as a source for the default XBMC account. Place all of your age-restricted videos into a separate folder then make an account in XBMC for yourself and add both folders as sources. You will need to login to this account any time you want access to the restricted videos, so set a password. This is sufficient until he is experienced enough to navigate the file system from the OS and/or add sources to the default account. At that point you will need to add access restrictions to the restricted folder/files, so you might as well do that now.
I'm not sure how difficult it is to link the access permissions to your XBMC login from a local machine, but when accessing a network share it's fairly straightforward for XBMC to save your access credentials.
Then at twelve you find out the kid is smart enough to work out that physical access to the hardware can lead to full control :)
It's the old "put it on the top shelf" solution upgraded to the electronic age with a different ladder.
If it's really important to keep it away from the kids for a long time you need a locket gun cabinet style solution instead of just putting stuff on a difficult to get to top shelf. A portable drive in a locked drawer may do that trick.
I didn't even see a condom until I was over twenty, and I saw it when the Police had broken into a University toilet block to remove a condom vending machine which was against the law at that time. By then some girls I knew of the same age already had unwanted five year old kids and had never seen a condom either. Seeing a bit of porn may have helped my generation more than harmed it if we'd had the chance, and censorship extending to forbidding sex education and restricting access to contraceptives definitely did do harm.
So far as I'm aware, dlna/upnp doesn't have an authentication layer. Client-side authentication is no security at all because what's to stop the kids installing a different client on their PCs, smartphones, etc? Also, if your household is anything like ours, you've got a slew of windows/ios/linux/android gadgets all with Dlna clients, and administering passwords on them all would be a nightmare. The best answer I have found is to drop upnp for "sensitive" material and just put it on a samba/smb share with password-based authentication.
To all those people who talk about various degrees of teaching children responsible behaviour and self restraint instead of locking the "bad" stuff away (wouldn't let guns or detergent bottles lying around for children to play with, would you?): Perhaps you should try teaching self restraint by example and simply not watch television or movies while your children are around. That way younger children will just think the TV is part of the furniture and older kids who have seen those magic boxes at their friends can go through their friend's dad's porn collection instead of yours. Better to have someone your age to share the experience than to talk it over with your parents afterwards. Or, you know what? You could simply shutdown or disconnect the media server. Or close all ports and use port knocking to enable file sharing. Bonus: If your children learn how to circumvent such a measure they have learned a valuable technology lesson and should be entitled to watch all the traumatizing gore and smut they want. :-)
Seriously, build a healthy relationship with your kid and tell them about why some films are not appropriate for them. Get your kid to value your opinions (_opinions_, not laws) and if they are half intelligent they will probably come and ask if a film they saw is appropriate for them or not. Also, tag your films with age recommendations (however you see appropriate) as a guide.
I protected the movies I didn't want my son to see with a password, and he used his allowance to buy some time from a GPU cluster to crack it.
If you haven't learned how to hide your porn by now, there's no hope for you.
I wouldn't worry too hard about keeping your kids from seeing your movies -- they're too long to be interesting, mostly. The real issue is once your kid figures out how to click around on youtube. You'll start them with Sesame Street or something and when you turn back they're watching a kid pretend Elmo is being butt-raped, with graphic commentary.
YouTube "related video" links are the real problem in this space.
Terrorist, bomb, al Qaeda, nuclear, yellowcake, kill, assassinate. Carnivore is dead... long live Echelon.
Quit being a helicopter parent. Talk to your kid about it and man up. He's going to see shit that gives him nightmares, you *can not* stop that, this is a fscked up world, and you trying to hide shit from him is going to make him less able to deal with the world he grows up in.
Have you considered actually conversing with your child?
Hi son, movies not marked G can be very scarey, don't watch them or you'll see stuff your really wish you hadn't. Worked fine with my kids.
WTF do people insist on censorship over education? Do you think your children are idiots? If so, you have bigger issues....
funny? this is the only correct response here =/
What if they play Eve online? Then they'll understand about banking cartels and sharp trading and all that stuff.
Some will disagree with you but I'm not one of them. So I want to expand on what you're saying. There is a certain age range that had to understand how a computer worked to run anything. Older generations were past the age of quick learning when this happened with only a few exceptions. On the other end, younger generations have no need to know any of that stuff. The file system is more and more hidden. Younger generations know how something works by clicking and touching on different things, but beyond that not much. That middle generation however can figure out any UI and fix problems as they arise because they understand what's going on underneath. There are exceptions to all of these generalities, but in general they're true :)
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