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KDE 4.10 Released, the Fastest KDE Ever
sfcrazy writes "The KDE team has announced the 4.10 releases of KDE Plasma Workspaces, Applications and Development Platform. It brings many improvements, features and polishes the UI even further, which already is one of the most polished, stable and mature desktop environments. With 4.10 KDE users can experience a much more sane global-menu like implementation without interrupting their workflow. A list of improvements is available here."
This release makes major steps toward further Qt Quick/QML integration (more plasmoids are written using QML, you can create animated desktops using QML, etc.). KWin's configuration applet also supports fetching extensions from KDE Look. Perhaps the best improvement is a new indexer for Nepomuk, with claims that the semantic desktop is finally usably fast (after suffering through a multi-week indexing on my laptop, I have to say Nepomuk is really cool, but having an unusable system for that long is not so I for one welcome our new indexing overlords).
I hear both KDE users were super excited
So the question: Why does Ubuntu stick to Gnome?
Slashdot, fix the reply notifications... You won't get away with it...
Now that Gnome came up with Java Script AND now eveb with Sandboxing their Apps like Apple does with iOS
http://m.h-online.com/open/news/item/GNOME-developers-plan-Linux-apps-1798691.html
Kde as well as Xfce start becoming a serious option for me.
Just to clarify for people, the new Nepomuk indexer was COMPLETLY and UTTERLY rewritten from scratch and shares ZERO of the old code. IT uses 2 pass indexing just like OS X-- pass 1 is just file name and location so that basic search works. Pass 2 is when it starts figuring out music tags or director tags for movies , things like that.
One of the reasons the old indexer was so slow would be because you could search by content WITHIN the files, unfortunately it would scan every file, even those without any useful content for indexing like movies or music. This does mean some reduced functionality but it also means a lot more stable and quick system.
Also STRIGI has been completly thrown out so thats not an issue anymore.
I was a big time fan of KDE2/3. The 4.0 release was far too rushed and eventually made me switch entirely to Fluxbox, which these days I've replaced with XCFE. I can't imagine switching back now but the change list and features in this 4.10 series make KDE a much more viable alternative to other WMs now. I feel a bit sorry for the KDE developers - I got the impression there was a sea-change in the project with the 4.x branch that they've had to slog uphill to overcome.
jaymz
I suppose Linus on the desktop is better than Linus on the laptop, he would probably break it.
So, a new version of this image, then...
Windows moves in mysterious ways, its crashes to perform
This is actually a legit question. Mark Shuttleworth has repeatedly praised Qt. He has forked away from Gnome. The new Ubuntu phone interface is apparently written in Qt, and he is encouraging developers to write Qt/QML apps for his new phone platform.
I bet Ubuntu could recreate their Unity interface in Plasma/Qt easily enough. But the really interesting aspect of that is that they could create one device that could easily change UIs/shells based upon how it was used. A tablet could default a touch interface, but switch to a more traditional interface with paired with a keyboard. A phone interface could change to a desktop interface in a dock.
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I just upgraded and luckily my heavily customized setup from 4.9 is intact. KDE's been snappy on this notebook anyway and completely problem-free for months (well only Firefox in conjunction with Google Docs freezes like once a day... but that's an FF bug) frankly I wouldn't use it if it was slow, so I don't see any particular change in speed.. and I was running the indexers and whatnot before. The only thing that was using a lot of resources (imo) was Amarok, but then I removed all services, plugins and stuff I don't use, and now it never goes over 70 MB after playing music all day.
I've been using KDE for less than a year but all in all I like this desktop.
Shame on you! You seem to be making fun of the fact that he is what they call a "full-figured, plus-sized, real man".
Is KDE 4.10 really faster than KDE1 and KDE2 on the same system?
Yes. It's quite unbelievably faster, in fact. You know those features in KDE1 and 2 that didn't exist until the 4.x series? Instead of waiting around fifteen years for them to work (and be developed), now they work in a few seconds on average. That's a considerable speed increase.
I'll stick with Windows 8, thanks.
It does for folk who like it that way, and those unable to navigate clicky GUI configuration options with big icons and explanatory tooltips, and change it. :)
My KDE UI looks nothing like the default. But it's not about the UI, anyway
Eh? You're comparing a complete desktop environment to a window manager.
Translation
hey guys- I've replaced my full blownout desktop environment with a lot of different services and stuff tightly integrated into it to make this shit actually useful for this window manager and oh boy, it's so much faster!
Linus on the laptop
Damnit, I'm going to be having nightmares for a month.
in .kde/share/config/kdeglobal, you can change the value of
ButtonLayout=1
This will change the button order. This is one of those things that should never have a GUI option :). But this is KDE, so an option there is!
That's apparently controlled by the "Widget style". If you use the "Bespin" style, for instance, then one of the things you can configure in "Input/System" is called "Dialog buttons layout". They offer four choices: Windows, OS X, KDE, and Gnome.
So, yes, you can put the OK button on the right in KDE dialogs.
Oh man, I think that is almost not work safe.
And that annoying ass 'Cashew' is still there after thousands of complaints. Other than that I think it looks great!.
I've been a KDE user from 1.x but KIO and Nepomuk have been enough to really make me consider moving to something else. I use Midnight Commander for all my big/important file moves, not because I LIKE to use it better but because I've had way too many occasions where anything that uses KIO just royally hoses up my files. I've actually lost data to how poorly that performs. It hasn't been limited to just one system either, it's been multiple computers over the years. I really want to use Konqueror, Dolphin and Krusader but for the integrity of my files I avoid it.
Akonadi seems to be rather a pain also.
Get rid of Nepomuk, Akonadi, and KIOslave hosing up your files KDE is rather nice. But is it really KDE anymore?
Just to be clear, I've been on KDE from 1.x until now, I'm not a hater, I've stuck with KDE through when I first toyed with Redhat, to SuSE, to Debian, and now Kubuntu, I'm certainly not a hater, but where there's flaws the flaws are grand.
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This AC needs modded up for being spot-on. That has always been my experience with both Nepomuk and Akonadi. The only difference is that sometimes, in the newer KDE releases, it waits until the desktop has been up and running for a few minutes before crashing.
What difference does it make? Does a desktop get a pass for instability, simply because it's aiming for a higher goal? And I'm not even comparing. I'm just saying I had to move on to something useable.
So were my thoughts and experiences but since the previous release all is working very nicely and I finally understand what they were trying to achieve.
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