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Egyptian Court Wants To Block YouTube For a Month
First time accepted submitter rogue-girl writes that a "Cairo Administrative Court announced earlier on Feb. 9 that a ruling has been issued to block YouTube within the country for 30 days. This decision comes after a lawsuit was filed back in September 2012 during the turmoil caused by the infamous trailer 'The Innocence of Muslims' spread through the popular video platform. The Court has also asked for all websites having published parts or the entire trailer to be banned for 30 days."
That should be long enough to reclaim their "innocence."
They are blocking it because they are ashamed of the police abuse caught on videos. The 'Innocence of Muslims' video is excuse they are using to hide.
Here's the real thing they want to hide from:
Man being dragged, beaten, and stripped of clothes - http://youtu.be/AlgUUGKZ4R4
Man in wheel chair shot by police - http://youtu.be/WAOkfxibwr0
Police use live ammunition and shoot randomly in the city of Tanta - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k27pETl46qg
More photos and videos here of the stuff going on: http://egyptianstreets.com/2013/01/29/revolution-2-0/
Thanks to StormXMX on reddit for the links. I only repost so others can be aware of what is happening.
What a tragic farce
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
Anything they can do to hasten their slide back into the Dark Ages the better it is for the rest of us.
Egypt does this kind of thing periodically. the Suez Canal, for instance. Sturm und Drang.
This will only harm the people of Egypt. Google will lose a few ad hits.
... then they will ask for one more month, and one more, and three more, and one more year ... ... and then they will ask to expand the censorship to other form of media ... ... there is no way to fully satisfy the insatiable appetite for censorship for the Islamists ... ... ask the people in North Mali how them Islamists had treated them ... ... no music, no tee vee, not even ringtones on the phones
Muchas Gracias, Señor Edward Snowden !
Yo dawg, I heard you wanted some violence with your violence, so I sent you a prophet!
Believe whatever you want in private, but the sooner we start considering overt belief in a sky-friend as nothing short of a disease, the better. Religion would count as no fewer than half a dozen major diagnostic categories from the DSM (v4, anyway - who the fark knows what else they screwed up in v5), except that it explicitly exempts religious delusions.
So no, you all don't actually get a pass any more. You chat with god? Take your olanzapine like a good little psychotic! There we go. Don't we all feel less like blowing up buildings and raping Western reporters now? Hmm, I wonder if we could get it added to their water...
/ And if you consider this trolling... Well, suffice it to say I wish I meant this as a sad attempt at trolling. Not so funny that we really live in this fucked up world.
They told me if I voted for Rmoney, we'd see an administration increasingly supporting despotic, middle eastern regimes... and they were right!
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It doesn't harm youtube.
It is not like this eliminates the only means the Egyptian people have of broadcasting the insane things their government is doing.
If they are genuinely doing this over the "Innocence of Muslims" video, the only thing this legislature accomplished is broadcasting how much it doesn't understand about the internet.
I do understand the fear they have of western culture, anytime honey boo-boo shows up on my TV I have to run out of the room.
An internal system operation returned the error "The operation completed successfully.".
Analyses of the Innocence of Muslims video has shown it to be mostly factually correct
http://www.pi-news.org/2012/09/fact-check-the-innocence-of-the-muslims/
Now it might be a crummy video, but don't mistake poor production values for being factually incorrect. The video is based on statements in the Qur'an and hadiths - please go and check these things for yourself: http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/index.htm [Skeptics Annotated Qur'an].
It gets worse though. Both Secretary of State Clinton and President Obama were opposed to the video to cover up their arming of Al Qaeda elements in Libya through the embassy in Benghazi - and this backfired because the Obama Admistration are in total denial about jihad as a motivation of Islamism (as *mandated* by the Qur'an). The foreign policy of the US Administration is unbelievably misguided - because the political Left (which this State Department and Administration is) will not let the facts on the ground get in the way of their narrative. They are denying reality but the reality is rapidly catching up - and the securitry of the Free World is being traded for appeasement (in the hope that Islamists will be "moderate" - which is a ridiculous idea if you have ever read the Qur'an, hadiths and have an understanding of Islamic history for the last 1400 years).
Appeasement will not work with Islamists. Selling Israel out will not work (the jihadis have been in business for 14 centuries before Israel was established - you can't blame the joos for the actions of the jihadis). Making concessions to Muslims will not work (since the Islamists do not believe in quid-pro-quo; they believe they are right, the Free World is wrong, and its their way *only*). The Obama Administration abandoning the rest of the globe comes at exactly the wrong time - but perhaps this is no surprise given the number of Muslim Brotherhood members in the Administration influencing policy (which is why they are so afraid of Michelle Bachmann calling for an investigation - such an investigation would reveal that the Administration is so thoroughly penetrated it can barely be trusted to lead the Free World).
Fortunately there are signs of hope. Florida just passed a bill to outlaw Sharia. If other US states and other sovereign nations do the same then the Free World will remain Free. Then we only have to convince the wannabe dhimmis in the West to actually check the facts of what is going on - and not rely on the narrative they have been fed - they are in the Matrix and resist the truth of what is happening - preferring to *factual* arguments as some kind of 'racism' [absolutely crazy; Islam is a violent and totalitarian ideology, just like Naziism and Soviet Communism, it has nothing to do with 'race'].
Wake up folks. The biggest enemy of Freedom and Liberty in the World is the ideology of Islam (and those who apologize for it, eg. Obama and the political hard-Left). The video the Innocence of Muslims was a clumsy (but factual) attempt by an Egyptian Coptic to highlight the evils of the ideology and its warlord founder. To bad so many people simply ignored the film based on the lies of Islamist apologists (as in, the narrative from the Left-biased media). If you checked the facts you'd see the video was right - Mohammed was evil and against every the Free World stands for (but not against what the political Left now stands for - destruction of the system of the Free World).
"The Innocence of Muslims" is most certainly NOT the reason for the desire to ban youtube.
Pssst. Hey Egyptians... you're welcome!
I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?
Yeah, religion should not be excluded from any DSM categories.
However, since they wish to halt progress; I propose a solution: null route every Egyptian IP at the point the traffic enters Europe, Asia (RoK/Japan/Aus/NZ) and the US.
See how long till they (gov. and the people) start to really complain?
The DSM is meant to catalogue mental illness for medical professionals, not to point out the irrationality of those who steadfastly hold to faulty ideas they were raised to believe. It's not a problem with any biological basis, so doctors have no power to do anything about it that would make putting that in the DSM make any sense.
You can't change opinions with chemicals; anti-psychotics would do nothing to change the beliefs of those raised with propaganda, religious or otherwise. It's lack of thinking and lack of desire to spend mental energy doing so on any deep level regarding things they were told by everyone around them that keeps them thinking what they do. If medicine could do anything about that, sure, put it in the DSM. But as much of a bad taste religion leaves in my own mouth, classifying people as ill based on their ways of thinking, despite otherwise perfect biological health, does not sound at all a good thing.
They tried this in Russia a few years ago. Everything that is prohibited comes around (hard). Better to have it slowly getting extinct over a generation or two. The only problem we have to overcome is the exporting of the religion and have it seed somewhere else, getting more stricter, more correct, than it was where it came from. While I agree with the general vision, the next worst thing to religion is someone that considers himself god and uses politics to get more equal than someone else. This kind of social behavior is a dynamic system with a certain theme to justify itself, it is still bound to rules. These rules are set by nature, either evolving to an equilibrium, directing in a binary split between followers or a collapse aka death.
With this nice modern internet age transparency it is possible that people actually manipulate what the word sees. Either by the availability of people to see it first hand, the limitation on publishing or damn copyright that prevents others to spread it. Just wondering what anyone can do about a country that riots because of its bad rulers. Is supporting their freedom of information the only thing we can do?
Support Eachother, Copy Dutch Property!
If Egypt wants to ban Youtube for any period of time, that's their choice. Those of us who are not Egyptians and will not be affected by it shouldn't be complaining. It's their country, their laws, their government. In fact, I think Google should take things one step farther for them, and cut Egypt off from ALL Google products and services until they receive a full apology from the Egyptian government.
Just think about what that might accomplish.
If you believe everything that comes out of that book I'd have to classify you as bat shit insane too. Homosexuality is or was a diagnosis until recently as an example. There are still things in it that make you wonder. They have removed one diagnosis and left another near exact as an example.
So is Google a bunch of savages for taking down a video someone posted of 3D printing an AR-15 magazine?
Truth is Egypt is no more of a savage than the liberal/left DNC party is in the USA. Egypt wants to censor stuff they don't like and you complain about how idiotic they are. The left here wants to censor stuff and people like you claim you are a savage for wanting to post it.
It has NOTHING to do with religion and everything to do with intolerance. The liberals in the USA are just as intolerant as any religion around the world. The only difference is you agree with their intolerance. Yes, you are a troll.
A government blocking an entire platform to supress public access to a tiny fraction of the content helps to bring public attention to the matter. Even if Egyptions on the whole actually prefer such censorship they have the opportunity to understand what is happening, why, and to investigate why other civilisations don't have such heavy restrictions on infomation.
When the Egyption government shut down the internet, that was an act that required assistance from people around the world. But this is a matter for the Egyption people to tackle.
Also, almost just to make a point about what the internet means, I started torrenting Innocense of Muslims today. If anyone is having difficulty finding it search for the hash of the original torrent: de33ee20e7434ca2e57c01d89382a5dff4204ae8. Maybe this will help a few people before Slashdot censors this comment.
>Believe whatever you want in private, but the sooner we start considering overt belief in a sky-friend as nothing short of a disease, the better. Religion would count as no fewer than half a dozen major diagnostic categories from the DSM (v4, anyway - who the fark knows what else they screwed up in v5), except that it explicitly exempts religious delusions.
SO BRAVE!!! Did you get your PHD in the mail when you converted to atheism?
"Do you know what it is? A virus. Islam is a disease, a cancer on this planet. It is a plague. And we... are the cure." - atheist Smith.
There are two things Islamists are allergic to:
YouTube and
Polio vaccination
"The agriculture ministry is not in charge of Gundam" - Japanese ministry official.
If "Innocence of Muslims" is really the reason, then why is YouTube being blocked only for a month? Its not as if the video will be taken down.
Extremists (liberal and conservative) are all intolerant individuals when it comes to whatever they are being *extreme* about. The very nature of extremism does not allow for any kind of rational discourse. But, in the US, our society at large is becoming more and more polarized be opposing extremist viewpoints. Both sides would rather hold the country hostage to their demands than work together. Just ask yourself, who benefits from a sharply divided country full of strife the most?
Freud might say that Intelligent Design is religion's ID.
... just block all of Egypt for a month. That will get it all overwith and done.
now we need to go OSS in diesel cars
Whatever will we do without egypts 40 hits a month?????!!11!!!!1!!
if you are so high strung about it? I mean, shit, why get so butthurt over a video trailer?
Guess what stupid religious people, there are people who do NOT believe the same thing as you, who might, *gasp* do something you consider offensive. Get over it. I find your actions regarding your religious beliefs to be extremely offensive, but you know what I do? Nothing. Be a bunch of stupid people, like it makes your religion look any better.
You can't hide your head in the sand from truth, so accept it. You act like a bunch of ignorant dumbshits. You know, sort of like the people in Texas.
Like Youtube is the only place you can see videos online.
Be seeing you...
The whole "all sorts of bad shit happened because of a stupid offensive youtube video" thing has been fully debunked by now. Not only debunked, but admitted to by the US government after using it as an escape goat for the violence that was occurring in places at the time. Yet, no matter what, we get a story that comments on it almost every week on Slashdot, in which the bullshit of the first two weeks of lies after Benghazi are perpetuated. It's like nobody even reads the news anymore.
This sort of shit goes on all the time in Egypt (at least since Sadat was assassinated). Across a border or two (or 6 if your name is GHWB), the Saudis are practically open in their funding of Islamic terrorist groups, and their abuse of women is just short of unbelievable.
And yet the US gov't supports these countries and sells them tons of top-notch state of the art military surveillance and tactical gear. I shudder every time my corporate overlords deliver epistles to us peons about ethics and responsibility, followed by exhortations to get that system ready to ship to -- you can guess which countries.
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I really don't give a fuck anymore what those insane muslims do anymore...
So you don't care if a teenage girl is shot for the simple act of going to school?
You don't care when Saudis fund ignorant fools so they can go blow up commuter trains in the west?
So is Google a bunch of savages for taking down a video someone posted of 3D printing an AR-15 magazine?
Dude, Google is a corporation, not a government. If the government forced Google to take down the video that would be double-plus ungood, but they didn't. Google can take down whatever they want, in the same way Apple can approve whatever apps they want.
...and I guarantee if the government really had the power to censor YouTube they'd pick a lot more incriminating content than a video showing the use of a 3D printer. Most gun nuts wouldn't even know how to switch a 3D printer on...
The youtube Marketing Dept. can simply give the Egyptian court what they want, a fully moderated version.
Call it "Fatwahtube" or something similar, there are Piasters to be made.
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The more important it is to get information out, the more vehemently some people will try to stop it.
There will always be people in positions of power who find reason to hide something that should not be hidden. And, there will always be a large population of people who find *something* (anything) offensive, and think that nobody in the world should have access to it. The first group will always play to the sensitivities (and ignorance) of the second group to get the information hidden.
There will never be a point where the world, as a whole, learns of the real importance of free communication and stops trying to censor it. It will not happen. Freedom requires eternal vigilance and all that.
Oh, and my favorite quote: a censor is someone who knows more than he thinks you should.
LOVE IT
"The Court has also asked for all websites having published parts or the entire trailer to be banned for 30 days."
I am so happy that I am now a banned author. Time to add that one to old resume.
-- A computer without Windoze is like a choclate cake without mustard
oppression always seems fine and dandy to the oppressor. however, when your views cease to be the views in vogue, sucks to be you.
be careful what sort of totalitarian regime you wish for. sooner or later, it may turn on you.
all these tin-star dictatorships that don't like information... let them just turn back their top-level domains and block the world. let them sink beneath the waves. the rest of us will be happier.
if this is supposed to be a new economy, how come they still want my old fashioned money?
Yo dawg, I heard you wanted some violence with your violence, so I sent you a prophet! Believe whatever you want in private, but the sooner we start considering overt belief in a sky-friend as nothing short of a disease, the better. Religion would count as no fewer than half a dozen major diagnostic categories from the DSM (v4, anyway - who the fark knows what else they screwed up in v5), except that it explicitly exempts religious delusions. So no, you all don't actually get a pass any more. You chat with god? Take your olanzapine like a good little psychotic! There we go. Don't we all feel less like blowing up buildings and raping Western reporters now? Hmm, I wonder if we could get it added to their water... / And if you consider this trolling... Well, suffice it to say I wish I meant this as a sad attempt at trolling. Not so funny that we really live in this fucked up world.
No kidding, right? The frightening thing is we already did this before World War II. We were pretty on board with the Nazi's anti-religious sentiment, coz y'know we identified religion with violence and war. We forced people to enter asylums and we even gave out involuntary vasectomies to ensure they could not reproduce again, Personally, I'm disgusted by the proponents of this. I would prescribe 'pla' some of his own anti-psychotics, since it sounds like he's suffering from delusions.
One positive thing to come from this is a government which acts with a moderate view of time dilation.
I love the idea of a government doing an experiment with a limited time frame. If more government bodies embraced this notion we could have access to wilder government experiments, which might put governments in line with the increasing pace of innovation.
Everything else about this is of course horrible and ridiculous.