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Xbox Originator: "Stupid, Stupid Xbox!!"

Freshly Exhumed writes "You can't begrudge Nat Brown for claiming some pride in the birth of Microsoft's game console: 'I was a founder of the original xBox project at Microsoft and gave it its name. Almost 14 years after the painful, pointless, and idiotic internal cage-match to get it started and funded, the hard selling of a compelling and lucrative living-room product to Bill (and then Steve as he began to take over), a product that consumers would want and love and demand, I am actually still thrilled to see how far it has come...' But in his recent ILIKE.CODE blog post he is driven to lament that '...as usual, Microsoft has jumped its own shark and is out stomping through the weeds planning and talking about far-flung future strategies in interactive television and original programming partnerships with big dying media companies when their core product, their home town is on fire, their soldiers, their developers, are tired and deserting, and their supply-lines are broken.' Nat goes on to detail a list of Microsoft's past and present strategic Xbox blunders, while tossing some barbs towards Nintendo's and Sony's game console strategies."

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  1. Primary Problem? by the_Bionic_lemming · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's the interface. It sucks. I bought a machine to game on, not one to sell me other crap. Two years ago when they changed to pre metro I boxed up the x-box and games and gave it to my nephews.

    X-Box is doomed. Simply because it's not about gaming, but all about sales.

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    1. Re:Primary Problem? by maxdread · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And yet you can have it boot directly to whatever game is in the drive. Wouldn't impact your gaming at all.

    2. Re:Primary Problem? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Agreed. That is why, even though the Xbox is very popular, there is no "halo effect" for other Microsoft products like Zune or Windows Phone.

      People merely put up with the thing because it plays Halo, they have no love for the device itself.

    3. Re:Primary Problem? by AlphaWolf_HK · · Score: 2

      What console hasn't been about sales? Pretty much all of the best selling ones were sold at either a loss or a very tiny profit margin so that they could make money off of selling the games. Effectively just a computer designed for content consumption.

      Now they're simply adding more content to consume. Makes sense for the consumer when you think about it - no need turn it off, turn on another device, and change inputs when you switch from playing a game to watching movies.

      The annoying thing about xbox though is that you have to have an xbox live subscription in order to consume other content. E.g. pay microsoft to watch netflix.

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    4. Re:Primary Problem? by Kenja · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Bull-hockey. If that was the case, then nobody ever play games on mobile devices, which are arguably the most popular 'platforms' at the moment.

      Are you claiming that a majority of your cellphone screen is advertising space like with the XBOX? If so, you may have malware. What's more, I seem able to run games etc on my tablet without a monthly subscription to "Android Gold".

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    5. Re:Primary Problem? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It sure is a good thing the 360 only plays disc based games, huh?

    6. Re:Primary Problem? by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 5, Funny

      DUDE.

      Dude.

      You have to press A to play the game.

      Dude.

      I hate pressing A, man. It reminds me of those M$ A-HOLES AMIRITE!!!

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    7. Re:Primary Problem? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      At that point, for people who pirate their media at least (and there are a lot of them admittedly!), what's the point of buying a console that's sold as a "media hub" when it won't actually play anything they have?

      Guess they'll have to start paying for things like normal human beings.

    8. Re:Primary Problem? by TriezGamer · · Score: 2

      You can access every game on your account from the guide, no need to fully drop to dashboard.

    9. Re:Primary Problem? by CAIMLAS · · Score: 5, Interesting

      And how is "all about sales" any different than Sony or Nintendo's gaming platforms?

      It isn't. For that matter, how can gaming platforms like PCs with Steam be wildly popular and expanding into the platform market with the Steambox (while remaining wildly more popular than game platforms in general right now, I might add) exist when they are, essentially, JUST game sales and delivery systems?

      Sorry, the Xbox is floundering for the same reason that things like capable entry level Android tablets come to market at $100 and smartphones sell for $500+ and people barely even blink at the price. The truth is that platform gaming is dying, even with the novelty of things like Kinect. People don't really want to game on their TVs anymore, they want something personal. The TV has become peripheral to home/personal entertainment, not central, and when people can get 90% of the same thing with any given game console, or 70% of what those consoles offer and a little bit more with a modern set-top box, it makes very little financial sense to continue with the "sell the console at a loss" model that Microsoft popularized, never mind anything between that and the Nintendo approach. (Look at sales models - hardly any console did well this past Christmas.)

      The entire commercial idea of console gaming needs to be rethought and revitalized or it's simply not going to make a hill of beans how innovative they are.

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    10. Re:Primary Problem? by Seumas · · Score: 2

      I hope I'm proven wrong, but I suspect that this entire coming generation of consoles is going to be about catering to soccer-moms and your elderly dad rather than improving your gaming experience and providing more power. Based on hinting over the last three years, I'm concerned that the view from the console manufacturers is that these are now home media and social devices that just happen to play games.

    11. Re:Primary Problem? by Seumas · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Most mobile gaming is the same shitty game created 500 times with different titles, filled with stupid time-gates to encourage you to spend money on the bullshit "coin duplicators" and other crap that they are constantly peddling to you. Mobile games are, for the most part, of the same quality and mindset as Facebook games. Nothing more.

    12. Re:Primary Problem? by Seumas · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The new generation of consoles may end up being doomed *for gaming*. That isn't for certain, but it's possible. They've found a better market to sell the devices to (less than half of time spent on the 360 is spent playing video games). Gaming consoles used to be marketed toward gamers. Now they'll be catering and marketing to people who just want to watch Hulu and download the latest "music" video from the retarded flavor of the month.

      As someone who enjoys gaming, across the board, I'd be disappointed in that. As someone who prefers PC gaming, I welcome it. Ditch your gaming fans and watch them flock to the PC.

    13. Re:Primary Problem? by RaceProUK · · Score: 2

      I seem able to run games etc on my tablet without a monthly subscription to "Android Gold".

      Same applies to XBox - Live Gold is only required for certain apps (mainly Netflix et al) and online gaming.

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    14. Re:Primary Problem? by thereitis · · Score: 2
      The XBox 360 interface isn't any worse than PS3 or Wii, but yes it does need work. Certainly, I'd expect more from a company whose core business is user interfaces. The UI is also too sluggish.

      While I like the Kinect, those games should offer the ability to move through menus with the controller as well as with hand gestures. What takes me 20 or 30 seconds to do with hand gestures could be done in 5 seconds with a controller. This isn't rocket science - I'm not sure why nobody's made that happen or that it's not part of the XBox UI guidelines.

      I can't say anything good about the durability of the XBox 360. My old XBox original is still alive and kicking, yet I'm on my 3rd XBox 360. My Wii and PS3 are still running fine, too.

      The XBox 360 is still my favourite console, but I hope some/all of these issues are addressed in the next generation console.

    15. Re:Primary Problem? by elrous0 · · Score: 2

      Have you seen the proposed specs on the PS4 and next Xbox? They seem pretty powerful to just be targeting "soccer moms".

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    16. Re:Primary Problem? by rtb61 · · Score: 2

      Now that's the M$ way to win back customers, call them liars, insult them and blame them for all the problems. M$ did it to xbox red ring of death customers for months on end. Don't like the interface on the device you bought then you are an arse hole, ha, ha, ha. Every time they had real competition and customers complained about something or wanted changes or really hated something, well screw the whiny arse holes, it's like they 'er' paid for it and had some expectations as 'er' customers and treating them like shit post purchase and then wander why they not only don't want to buy your products any more but run around telling everyone that'll listen why you products suck.

      Do you really know that ex-customers have been so offended by M$'s past behaviour they have gone onto to hate M$ and their products for 'Decades' and you just can't seem to stop yourselves from doing the same thing to the next generation. You really want to know why Zune and windows phone crapped out, well apparently microsofties haven't learnt their lesson yet.

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    17. Re:Primary Problem? by IndustrialComplex · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Live Gold is required for doing almost ANYTHING on the xbox. It's the number one reason I don't buy xbox games anymore.

      Right now, everything is so tightly coupled with Live Gold that not using gold results in a very aggravating experience. Your statement 'mainly Netflix et al' vastly understates that almost any feature that is not a single player game or dvd requires a Live Gold account. Youtube, HBOgo, Netflix, Pandora...

      The way you learn about gold is annoying as well. I'll be looking around the marketplace, find a service that I ALREADY PAY FOR, install it, and then later be told that 'Oh, this feature won't work without gold'

      That doesn't even get into the fact that there are many games where you basically gut the game if you remove multiplayer. As a result the entire experience is one of disappointment as I'm continually faced with 'Oh, I guess that would be nice, or gee I wish I could play this with my friend'.

      I'm not going to reward a company for rent-seeking to provide me services that 1. I already pay for, 2. I'm paying for the internet to transport the data.

      The Live Gold 'feature' is the number one reason I regret purchasing an Xbox and only use it to play single player games I pickup at the flea market.

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    18. Re:Primary Problem? by SuiteSisterMary · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Actually, the thing I hate, in any modern game on any platform, is 'press start'. Why the fuck do games still have video arcade-style attract screens?

      Off the top of my head, Prototype 2 did it right; it loads your most recent save and starts playing it in the background under the menu. When you click 'continue,' the menu simply goes away and there you are.

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    19. Re:Primary Problem? by maxdread · · Score: 2

      If trying to find it truly kicks your ass, electronics might not be your thing.

      That's okay though, they still make board games.

  2. If he has any influence at all... by crafty.munchkin · · Score: 2

    He'll try to convince them to can this stupid idea of linking all game purchases with a single xbox live account, and getting rid of the stupid "always-on" DRM requirement.

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  3. Bill needed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Didn't think i would ever say this...but have to admit Bill gates leaving MS was NOT the best thing to happen to MS. Srsly though ballmer is just pushing the MS car down the cliff.

    1. Re:Bill needed by YodasEvilTwin · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Everyone else long ago noticed how MS flatlined when Bill left, besides the fact that he was obviously a visionary and genius (and not half bad at business either). You may disagree with a ton of things he did, and rightly so on many of them, but you can't look at Microsoft's massive rise and Bill's obvious driving of said rise and go "Yeah, Bill leaving MS was the best thing that happened to them". It's patently ridiculous.

    2. Re:Bill needed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      They need a new chair man.

    3. Re:Bill needed by Z00L00K · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Ballmer is doing a bull run full ahead and don't care a bit about what the customers think. Not only the Xbox live account requirement is evidence of that but also the fact that the Windows 8 UI is something that's best useful for three year old kids and not useful for the advanced users.

      I suspect that Microsoft has had it's peak and now they are into the process and business model that we saw that many big computer corporations were following during the 70's and 80's where you locked the systems through obscurity. Next step would be a CPU class based licensing of Windows.

      The reason why M$ did grow big was that there was not much heavy copy-protection and license key mess in the beginning. People copied the OS from work to run at home as well and so on. It may have been a lost sale, but not many home users would have purchased the full license anyway.

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    4. Re:Bill needed by rochrist · · Score: 2

      I just got a new laptop with windows 8, and I'm just flat out stunned at how awful the interface is. I didn't have it an hour before I bought Start 8. and even with that running, the interface STILL makes me want to stab myself in the eyeballs.

    5. Re:Bill needed by Captain+Hook · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Did MS flatline because Bill left, or was it always going to flatline around then because it MS had reached that point where it couldn't go after new markets without canniblising it's core income streams and competitors were lined up to take advantage of that.

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    6. Re:Bill needed by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 2

      Next step would be a CPU class based licensing of Windows.

      Not to the degree that the old-school enterprise players (IBM and Oracle, say) do it; but Windows licensing has already been spec based for quite some time now. As far back as NT 4.0, there was 'server' and 'enterprise server'(if you wanted 3GB of RAM per-process and an 8 CPU SMP license).

      2000 brought 'server', 'advanced server', and 'datacenter server' (4CPU), (8CPU, 8GB RAM w/PAE), and (32CPU, 32GB RAM w/PAE) respectively.

    7. Re:Bill needed by RaceProUK · · Score: 2

      They need a new chair man.

      Nah, they just need to stop Ballmer throwing it.

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    8. Re:Bill needed by paiute · · Score: 3, Funny

      Everyone else long ago noticed how MS flatlined when Bill left, besides the fact that he was obviously a visionary and genius (and not half bad at business either). You may disagree with a ton of things he did, and rightly so on many of them, but you can't look at Microsoft's massive rise and Bill's obvious driving of said rise and go "Yeah, Bill leaving MS was the best thing that happened to them". It's patently ridiculous.

      Son, all I remember about your visionary genius is when I saw his book - which was published in 1995 - in Barnes and Noble with a big red sticker on the front which read: Now Revised To Include The Internet.

      So much for the vision thing.

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    9. Re:Bill needed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      No, it was when Bill left. A quick look at the history of Balmer shows that he is very big on slaying dragons but not very big on plundering their hoards. Even worse, he prefers to attack without a technological advantage, instead preferring to rely on the massive cash of MS. He took on Google with Bing, the Playstation with XBox, the iPod with Zune, the iPhone and Android with Windows Phone, the iPad with Surface RT, Java with .NET, and Flash with Silverlight. How many of these were big successes?

      Compare this to Jobs, who took failed and under-realized ideas (portable music player, tablets, digital music, etc.) and made them work well. Even their PCs and laptops are based on the system model that MS largely destroyed decades earlier in the home market, relegating it to scientific, business, and other specialized applications.

      The contrast is like night and day: one struck while the competitors were weak and executed well to carry the day; the other struck while the competitors were strong and executed mediocrily, at best, using massive cash to carry the day.

    10. Re:Bill needed by SerpentMage · · Score: 4, Interesting

      it gets worse...

      With ballmer under control they took winning ideas and killed them. For example, .NET and C# did become very successful. What did they do? They killed it in the "new" paradigm called Windows 8.

      they had one of the most successful third party dev program and they killed it. Compare the price of MSDN universal when Gates was under control, and when Ballmer was under control. It is not funny! I did a price comparison of Linux, OSX, and Windows as a development environment for a small business or consultant. In this price comparison I included the price of hardware since you do need computers to run things.

      Guess which was the cheapest... Drum roll Linux. Guess which was the most expensive? Drum roll Windows, and by quite a bit! OSX was only a bit more expensive than Linux. Windows was just downright expensive when you add things like Office, Windows Server, MSDN development (not talking the universal package, just the 1200 USD package).

      What shocked me is that OSX is not that much more expensive than Linux. For hardware does cost quite a bit if you do an apples to apples comparison (excuse the pun). Granted that Apple is still more expensive for the same hardware, but it is not as much as I thought it was.

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  4. Re:Daily Microsoft bitch-fest by DeathFromSomewhere · · Score: 4, Funny

    You must be new here. We have a Microsoft bitch-fest everyday even if they don't make anything newsworthy. It's either a Windows 8 post, or some rumour about DRM on the xbox, or Stallman saying something dumb, or something about UEFI, and if all those fail then we find some random guy that quit a decade ago and writes a butthurt blog post.

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  5. Re:appstore model will not work by toiletsalmon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I disagree. I think most of their arcade games are "shitty" as it is. Plus why should I pay $15 for a title on my xbox when I can get the same game cheaper on four other platforms for less? PLUS, it doesn't cost me $5 a month to take full advantage of my iPad.

    A more open and competitively priced market is exactly the thing that would bring me back, but Windows 8 had proven that they have other plans.

  6. Another one? Sheesh. by goodmanj · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Oh look, it's another retired general bitching about how much better things were when he led the army. File this one under W for 'Wozniak'.

  7. Advertisements even after paying yearly! by Tagged_84 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The number 1 issue I have with MS and Xbox is that even after paying around $60 a year for their service I still get bombarded with advertisements covering upwards of HALF my f*cking screen!!! Where the hell is the money going if it's not going towards paying to have a clean, ad-free service?

    1. Re:Advertisements even after paying yearly! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      There is nothing stupider than thanking big companies for showing you advertising. "Please sir, can I have a larger, louder, more in-my-face advert? Please?"

  8. Re:Daily Microsoft bitch-fest by AlphaWolf_HK · · Score: 4, Informative

    The ones about UEFI annoy me the most. Too many people, even on slashdot of all places, think UEFI is just a graphical addon to BIOS that also adds DRM. It's nothing of the sort, most existing UEFI systems on OEM computers have a text based configuration tool and don't even secure boot. (Windows 8 mandates the change of the later of course.) Further, BIOS also had DRM capability.

    UEFI is a complete replacement of BIOS. BIOS had a ton of restrictions related to all sorts of things, e.g. partition count and size on the bootable hard disk, BIOS requires POST (which in modern systems needlessly adds to the boot time) as well as a ton of reserved and now useless for decades interrupts. These new things that you find with UEFI (e.g. graphical configuration tool) are simply new features that UEFI allows for, but aren't required.

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  9. Re:Classic Geek Mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If there is a more obvious piece of astroturf anywhere I'd love to see it. But the bit about loving what you can do with the Xbox you don't actually own is almost as classic as mentioning Smart Glass and capitalizing it.

  10. Stop calling it "X-Box", FFS. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Few things make you seem as ignorant as when you insist on typing "X-Box" instead of "Xbox". I'm the biggest fucking grammar Nazi on the planet, but "Xbox" is a fixed string as it's a trademark. It doesn't matter if it "should" be "X-Box" or "X-box" or whatever -- it's *a fact* that it's "Xbox".

  11. Re:HALO 1/2 and KOTOR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Because of DirectX, duh.

  12. Re:Daily Microsoft bitch-fest by epyT-R · · Score: 2, Insightful

    yeah, the more they overdo the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain..

    seriously, the bootloader on modern hardware doesn't need all that bullshit.. it just needs to load a binary image and execute it. If a more advanced bootloader is needed, just use the bios loader to chainload in place of the OS kernel. The rest of UEFI is fluff. Your other complaints about outdated POST are easily remedied without making the whole stack suck.

  13. Evolution by ixarux · · Score: 2

    I have never found myself comfortable with any gaming consoles. My fingers have never been able to get the hang of the consoles. I think the future, the human race will be divided into 4 groups of evolved species with differing hand configurations - the consolers, the keyboarders, the swipers and the rest of the world. Let the games begin!

  14. TLDR Version by wienerschnizzel · · Score: 4, Informative

    Ok, these are the ACTUAL complaints in the article:

    1) Microsoft has purposefully locked out small developers from contributing to XBox.

    2) Cluttered interface that bombards the user with unnecessary and confusing pop-ups.

    3) Apple may be able to get control of the console business if they open up their Apple Store ecosystem to Apple TV

  15. Bullshit. by Gordonjcp · · Score: 2

    Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas is the pinnacle of console gaming, on any platform - and it was particularly good on the Xbox.

  16. Re:Daily Microsoft bitch-fest by dfghjk · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "seriously, the bootloader on modern hardware doesn't need all that bullshit..."

    Just what is "all that bullshit"? People that make these comments have no idea.

    "The rest of UEFI is fluff. "

    Point out some of this "fluff" specifically.

  17. XBox is fine. by fyngyrz · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's the XBox360 that sucks, frankly.

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  18. Re:Classic Geek Mistake by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 2

    No. I run the Plex media server on my Mac and it streams videos to my Xbox and my Roku just fine. And, I run Microsoft Smartglass on my iPhone to control my Xbox.

  19. Re:Daily Microsoft bitch-fest by ctr2sprt · · Score: 5, Interesting

    seriously, the bootloader on modern hardware doesn't need all that bullshit.

    Yes, it does need "all that bullshit." Booting from anything except an on-board hard disk controller on a PC BIOS is a hackjob. It's just an absolutely horrible clusterfuck. The fact that it ever works at all is a testament to the hard work put in over the past 20+ years by all the bootable expansion card makers.

    I'm not trying to be a dick, but your comment really makes me think that you've never used anything except a desktop PC. In the server world, you always boot from an expansion card -- note that onboard NICs count as expansion cards in this context, because the BIOS can't boot from them directly; it has to pass control to the NIC's BIOS, which handles PXE -- at least once in the server's life to kickstart it. And there are a good number of situations where you never boot from a local hard disk. That's not just PXE. It also includes iSCSI and FC HBAs, ROMs or flash devices, RAID controllers, and probably a raft of things that I've simply never encountered.

    I think that OpenBoot would've been a better choice than UEFI, personally. But I don't think any knowledgeable person can dispute the need for something better than the 1980s-era PC BIOS.

  20. Re:Another one? Sheesh. by natbro · · Score: 5, Informative

    i never claimed to have run the army. at best i was a grunt-turned-sergeant-awkwardly-promoted-to-captain who had the ears of the generals because i knew what we could build, who could build it, and i could describe it to everybody - i was boots on the ground. i'm just pointing out that i think the current strategy is wrong and will likely fail, not that i was running it better back in the day.

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  21. Re:Never played by elrous0 · · Score: 2

    Are you that pompous ass at every party who feels the need to brag to everyone "I don't even OWN a TV"?

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  22. Same-screen multiplayer by tepples · · Score: 2

    gee I wish I could play this with my friend

    That's why the Xbox 360 console has multiple USB ports for connecting wired controllers and a built-in receiver for pairing multiple wireless controllers. PCs can technically do that too, but it's not traditionally done. The selection of games that support multiplayer on one machine is consoles' big advantage over PCs.

    1. Re:Same-screen multiplayer by IndustrialComplex · · Score: 2

      Right... and online multiplayer, you know, the feature blocked when you don't subscribe to Live Gold? You are going to need one hell of a long cord and a decent telescope.

      (I really think you are stretching by suggesting that what I meant by multiplayer was split screen play. When the discussion is about Live, it is obvious that the point is about discussing online multiplayer and not split-screen play.)

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  23. X Square Circle by tepples · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Anyone know why he named it XBOX?

    Because when you put your thumbs on a PlayStation controller, the right thumb covers buttons marked with an X and a square (that is, a box). Even 360 refers to a circle, which is also a PlayStation button.

  24. Re:What professionally-made E or E10+ Linux games? by chilvence · · Score: 2

    Or it could just be that first person shooters with no depth are easy to churn out. Look at them closely, and there is barely any deviation from the Doom archetype really. You will probably find it very hard to get money for something that is not easy to churn out, so you have to blame the simpletons in charge of the money for underestimating the intelligence and tastes of the 'proles'.

    By the way, well done for sounding like a snob on at least 15 different levels :) . Video games don't force people onto the couch, they just give them something to do while they are there, a bit like television, the wireless, the written word, and spoken stories did before them! Apathy forces people on to the couch, because we live in a society where everything has already been done and yet insists on going round and round in circles for no reason while pretending not to notice that it is fucking up everything around it! I think you will actually find that people don't like playing football because...well its fucking boring, that's why. If it wasn't, no one would protest! You see awesome examples of street sport from all over the world on youtube, yet for some reason people have to reduce sporting activity to a scientific process of penis measurement, the logical conclusion of which is the Olympic games, which could quite honestly be used in a hospital for anaesthetic! 50 years ago, most people walked to school, then your generation fucked everything up by deciding that driving and roads was a cornerstone of modern society! I don't see any fat fucks in countries where people can't drive everywhere they go!

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