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Tim Cook Never Wanted To Sue Samsung
colinneagle writes "While Steve Jobs' ire in regards to Android is well known, a recent report from Reuters relays that current Apple CEO Tim Cook never wanted to sue Samsung in the first place. 'Tim Cook, Jobs' successor as Apple chief executive, was opposed to suing Samsung in the first place, according to people with knowledge of the matter, largely because of that company's critical role as a supplier of components for the iPhone and the iPad. Apple bought some $8 billion worth of parts from Samsung last year, analysts estimate.' In various earnings conference calls, Tim Cook has repeated that he hates litigation, but has still toed the party line by exclaiming that Apple welcomes innovators but doesn't like when other companies rip off their intellectual property."
Sorry, this excuse just doesn't fly with me. If the company he's supposed to be in charge of is doing things like suing competitors without his permission or knowledge, then he's a failure as a CEO.
"Have you ever thought about just turning off the TV, sitting down with your kids, and hitting them?"
That's what they all say.
"Apple welcomes innovators but doesn't like when other companies rip off their intellectual property"
Okay, put your money where your mouth is. Remove the notification shade from iOS. You ripped it off wholesale from Android.
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Yet he is at the helm of the ship when mostly all the lawsuits from apple against Samsung started. He is just trying to save face in all the Bad PR apple has gotten over last couple years.
Just gonna repeat what everyone else is saying. This is ridiculous.
Apple is getting a lot of negative press on their current legal activities. Their pattents are being eroded. Details of their cases are being foiled in courts around the globe. That billion-dollar judgement will not stand and it is simply unimaginable that the jury verdict will stand in light of the jury misconduct which definitely happened. The numerous cases brought and initially won using doctored/edited visuals for evidence is simply dirty.
And the idea that the CEO didn't want to do this? Explain to me what a CEO does again?
Apple is losing a lot more than cases and patent claims. They are losing their customers. I know, people will cite last years figures and reports to claim they are a reflection of today's and tomorrow's popularity figures. I just don't see it. Everywhere I look, the use of iPhone is decreasing. That's not to say people using Android are excited fans or anything. They're not. The excitement over touchscreen smartphones and fart-apps is over. Now it's about practical matters which matter to people; Cost, Apps, Usability, Restrictions and other considerations.
Brand recognition is important to consumers for some reason. Apple's brand is being diminished. It is having an affect.
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Ray Noorda was willing to say "bad idea" when Novell bought out the UNIX rights from AT&T and stopped/settled the BSD/AT&T lawsuit once he became "in charge" over it.
Thusly Mr. Cook is trying to BS ya all.
I think anyone with a modicum of insight into the history of apple and the tech world in general is fully aware that Herr Jobs was nothing but a capitalist CAUC. My friend's post on G+ sums it up nicely... https://plus.google.com/110294227533168060832/posts/hwQWSWkNLYT
The Sabre Pyramid. By this time next year, everyone will have one.
These lawsuits were started before Cook was CEO -- the point is that he basically inherited lawsuits that Jobs started.
And while it's tempting to follow up with "he should just drop all the lawsuits," it's not that easy -- aside from spooking the public and investors, an exit from legal action wouldn't guarantee that others would do the same. Samsung has at least made some grandstanding that it will never, ever settle. That could just be talk, but Samsung isn't exactly known for its humility or compassion toward competitors.
So basically what you are saying is that they are in the same position SCO was in, and so they have no choice but to keep up at it until someone sets up another Groklaw.com and they spend all their money and go out of business?
Even the styling of their signature products has been directly copied from other company's work from the 70s.
....they copied Sony http://www.electricpig.co.uk/2012/07/27/apple-prototypes-show-iphone-inspired-by-sony-and-kickstand-ipad/index.html
Oct 2011 - Dec 2011, sold 37 mil iphones.
Oct 2012 - Dec 2012, sold 48 mil iphones.
http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20130214005415/en/Android-iOS-Combinid
Compared to Androids
Oct 2011 - Dec 2011, sold 85 mil smartphones.
Oct 2012 - Dec 2012, sold 160 mil smartphones.
Thats ignoring Apple are now selling more lower marking 4* Phones Apples market share.
From the statement "iOS posted yet another quarter and year of double-digit growth with strong demand for the iPhone. But what also stands out is how iOS's year-over-year growth has slowed compared to the overall market." your right its better than losing all there customers...not good though.
are you LITERALLY retarded?
...I think anyone you uses the words *retarded* [or adds tard to the end of a real world like Gonadtard] should be instantly blocked.
Anyone who used the literally in fucking capitals no less, should be traced and their computer smashed into little tiny pieces and then fed to them.
Someone who combines these atrocities...I can only assume they are going to build another ring of hell.
Their margins remain the highest in the industry.
The smartphone industry has been growing 16% per year globally and Apple has been growing faster.
In the United States Apple has crushed Android and now is approaching the point of establishing a monopoly.
How exactly is their brand being diminished?
No Apple has been growing slower than the industry...in fact its shrinking compared to the market. In fact even in the US Android phones are more common than iPhones. I personally would argue that their brand is diminished because its getting harder to justify the massive mark-ups on re-badged foxconn phones.
For those unwilling/too lazy to do the math:
Not counting alternate smartphone OS's like blackberry, windows, symbian, etc...
The last quarter of 2011 Apple had 30% of the market
last quarter of 2012 it had slipped to 23%.
This is despite selling 30% more phones. Androids jumped 88%.
That sort of growth in a year is insane. I don't think even the computer revolution ever matched those numbers.
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When the conflict gets to litigation, everyone except the lawyers lose.
No! No! No! there is often a winner, sometimes a very lucrative winner, the lawyers only get a small portion of the spoils, I'm don't care if lawyers are good or bad people, but pretending mega-corperation are victims to this occupation is a not credible. The truth is Apple won big against Samsung to the tune of 1 Billion Dollars [that goes to Apple], unfortunately *money* even if its a Billion Dollars is useless to Apple ...it doesn't know what to do with its $140Billion in cash it has doesn't know what to do with. It wanted a ban on Samsung products, so it products could continue without competition.
http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS23946013#.UR7MG5G3PGg
You figures are not even close to being right. The link is the same as the other one I provided only its direct from IDC, but it includes a nice graph showing the various OS and how big their market share. Apple is a little confusing as its market share is feast/fast as their product launches have a huge effect on their sales. Next quarter Apple are not going to sell anything close to 48Million Phones, and their market share in that quarter will dive. Averaging out the peaks and troughs. Its not gaining market share because it is growing *the same* as the market.
The figures your looking for is the market grew 46% in 2012. Apples market share was 18.8% in 2011...and is still 18.8% in 2012 because it sold only 46% more phones...the same as what the market grew.
Its easier to see what is happing when averaging over a year. The reality is the big launch was the turning point, and everyone knew it. Its why its market share have dropped 35% since then. :)
http://www.comscore.com/Insights/Press_Releases/2013/2/comScore_Reports_December_2012_U.S._Smartphone_Subscriber_Market_Share I'm sorry why are you posting figures tha agree with me, as though they don't its a little eerie. From the article "Google Android ranked as the top smartphone platform with 53.4 percent market share (up 0.9 percentage points)"
Your claim was that Apple was growing more slowly than the industry in the USA.
No it wasn't to quote myself. "No Apple has been growing slower than the industry...in fact its shrinking compared to the market. In fact even in the US Android phones are more common than iPhones."
The market is a *worldwide* market...notice the little *even* that is because I'm talking about something different :). That is the magic of English. For your benefit.
The US[and to a lesser extent the UK] is slightly different from the rest of the world which is why I separated it out, because customers pay for their phones by it being bundled into a long contract. Like a hire purchase agreement...only with the real value of the phone hidden from you. The bottom line is as you quoted "in the US Android phones are more common than iPhones" is still an empirical fact, that is because Android performs every quarter not just launch quarters :)...Do you know Android has grown faster than Apple, because it was launched later while having a larger market share. Do I have to go through all ComScore figures and do a time series analysis...or do you understand that fairly simple conclusion. If it hurts your brain think of it like cutting a pie, With Android being the big piece...and Apple being the teeny tiny piece.
Apple shares are in freefall falling from $705 a share to $450 and deservedly so. It is no longer the largest company in the world by market cap.
Actually, it is. For some strange reason, it was heavily reported when Apple fell behind Exxon, but nobody reported when Apple overtook Exxon again.
If you subtract cash from market caps, the enterprise value of Apple right now is only about 6 1/2 years of profits. That means the company is right now ridiculously undervalued.
Every $80 smartphone they are selling they lose the sale of a $80 feature phone.
Ok sorry for ignoring your post. It was better when I reread it. The reality is if you argue that the smartphone market is simply the *phone* market as dumbphones are replaced by smartphones. The your right Apple are still growing market share of that pie. Its a weird way of looking at it.
So lets have a look at some current figures for that. http://www.gartner.com/newsroom/id/2335616 Now here is the thing..conversion rate Android grew 20% to 70% while iOS lost 2% to 20%. It shows how Apples expansion is slowing, While Android is exploding.
Now your saying they don't matter because they are $80 phones...the average selling price is $150, are you really saying Apple cannot produce a profitable phone at $150...or even one at $80. The reality is Apple have priced themselves out of the world market...and its hurting them, and market share matters.
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