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NASCAR Tries To Squelch Video of Spectators Injured By Crash
An anonymous reader writes "Dozens of fans attending a NASCAR race at Daytona Speedway were injured when a crash during the last lap triggered a chain reaction, culminating in the front section of Kyle Larson's car ricocheting into the fence in front of the stands (Larson escaped injury). While the footage accompanying the article is dramatic enough, an even more riveting clip showing the chaotic scene in the stands from up close was posted on YouTube, but was taken down after NASCAR claimed it violated their copyright . YouTube has since restored the fan's video. A NASCAR spokesman has issued a clarification, saying that the takedown request was done out of respect for those injured. The race was an opening act for the main event, the Daytona 500, which officials say will proceed as scheduled. 'With the fence being prepared tonight to our safety protocols, we expect to go racing tomorrow with no changes,' Speedway President Joie Chitwood told CNN."
Next up any mention of NASCAR will cost you a dollah
So is NASCAR going to have a rash of legal suits for false takedown notices?
"Respect" is an excuse for perjury and a violation of a federal law? I should try that one if I ever get I trouble. I was just being respectful.
Oh, I forgot. The rules are different for large corporations. Carry on.
Liveleak has it, but you can't post racist comments on there unlike youtube.
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What's a little perjury when you have someone's best interests in mind, right?
So the takedown "was done out of respect for those injured."? Yeah, we lied about owning the copyright of newsfilm of a public event, in order to CMA, we didn't want to look bad or not caring about safety, we just wanted to suppress it all, so we invalidly exploited a stupid law. Who cares? We're important and those people injured are nobodies.
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I was watching their press conference (http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2013/feb/24/daytona-crash-fans-injured-race) and wondered why that Chit guy kept repeating how quickly and within protocol their people responded. I guess there's some question now, and they're already setting a stage for their defense.
If you watch the video, everyone's practically ejaculating as the wreck begins and more cars get involved. And then, suddenly, it extends into the spectator seating and then it's the worst thing in the world. I'm sorry for those who were injured, but there's something about that which just seems really gross. "Oh, dang Jimmy Bob John Paul Ricky Dicky Junior! Look at that amazing wreck and the cars flipping around and slamming into each other! This is what we come to see! Violence and destruction and people risking their lives potentially being injured for our enjoyment!" followed by "ermagherd, a tire! who do we sue?!".
Don't misunderstand me -- the accident looked horrible, even though it wasn't clear who was injured and exactly to what extent, in the seats and I hope the spectators end up being okay and are justly compensated. It's great that the drivers were apparently okay. It's just that, as I watched the video, something about that sort of -- I don't want to call it hypocrisy, but I don't know what to call it -- which I found kind of gross.
As a penalty the next takedown request from NASCAR to youtube should require full documentation requiring a lawyers affidavit and full documentation of ownership of all material asserted to be owned and an full explanation of the way in which copyright is violated and a $10K deposit.
Youtube may then take up to a week to process the take down request. An improper request will not remove the penalty and the deposit will be forfit.
At least I can dream.
NASCAR: "I swear, under penalty of perjury, that the information in the notification is accurate and that I am the copyright owner or am authorized to act on behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is allegedly infringed."
Youtube: "Our partners and users do not have the right to take down videos from YouTube unless they contain content which is copyright infringing, which is why we have reinstated the videos."
Youtube has more or less admitted that NASCAR committed perjury by filing the DMCA claim.
Should be a slam dunk court case. Right?
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That doesn't seem fair. Everybody knows NASCAR fans can't afford a dollar.
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Automobile violence in the US has been rising at an alarming rate for the last 60 years.
Deaths by automobile are rising faster that the sun rise.
We need the President and Vice President and leaders of both chambers of Congress to come together and remove the violent and death dealing automobile from our local, state and national pathways.
There is no US constitutional amendment, clause or Executive Order that mandates an automobile for any US citizen.
Death from the automobile is not 'pursuit of happiness.'
The time has come to ... Kill the Car ... and let the people live.
Blood and Circuses.
Look, you fuckers, you can't use copyright law "out of respect for the injured", mmkay? What kind of an idiot would come out with this line for an excuse? You did not send an "I wish it were so" takedown. You sent a takedown under DMCA, and you've just publicly claimed that you've perjured yourself! Just one more reason for me to otherwise ignore NASCAR.
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Did you notice the guy shooting the video was 2 seats away from where the tire landed and he DID NOT SPILL HIS BEER. I'm not joking, check it out. That's some good redneck skills right there, man.
Is it a new programming language? Real nerds want to know.
That's all very well and good, and may have even been a perfectly arguable justification for having the video pulled from Youtube (although it may have taken longer), but why couldn't they have just said that in the first place, instead of making up some copyright violation excuse? Now, instead of coming across like they actually might have even cared about the people who were hurt, this after-the-fact excuse sounds very wholly contrived, and not really a priority for them at all.
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It shocked me to learn that NASCAR tickets are more expensive than NFL seats. The more you know.
I'm undoing my negative moderation of your post to reply to your comment. In case you don't understand the context of this video, it is the final lap of the race. Everyone is excited because it is a close race with a number of cars vying for the win. Perhaps you don't enjoy watching sports, or rooting for a particular person or team to win, but most people tend to get rather excited when a long competition comes down to the very end.
For you to demean the spectators, and use terms like "practically ejaculating", simply shows me that you are detached emotionally from sporting events, which is a great source of entertainment and pleasure for a very significant number of people.
If you find spectators getting excited over a winner of an event "gross" then I advise you to not attend sporting events or view videos of them, so as to not offend your sensitivities.
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In addition to the chain link fencing, there are four or five tensioned steel cables on the lower portion to give additional reinforcement.
With the fence being prepared tonight to our safety protocols
Hey, those protocols were sufficient the last time around, amirite?
I was expecting to see Randy Marsh in the video.
"We realized we perjured ouselves in requesting a DCMA takedown of a fan video of a crash where spectators were injured. It made us look bad and made racing appear unsafe for spectators and would hurt our business. Besides, the video showed a lack of respect for the Women, Veterans and First Responders who may have been injured. We support and love these dedicated American Heroes who sacrifice everything for this Great Country and would undoubtedly support us in our loving, caring, selfless decision. Since he drinks beer, President Obama is probably a big race fan and I'm sure Obama and Jesus would support us in this no matter what the law says. I know Jesus would forgive us." Speedway President Joie Chitwood told CNN.
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fair use should apply
it all happens on corporate property, but that doesn't trump the common news value
this is a dangerous precedent if corporate PR trumps newsworthiness
this is how and why western democratic ideals and freedoms are undermined by runaway financial power
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
Yes, I will even defend FOX News on this. This is absolutely newsworthy and applicable to freedom of the press. The extremely obvious reason why they want to suppress it is to minimize loss of fanship (though their fans have a pretty hardcore dedication, is that even possible anyway?) and loss of profit. Fuck off NASCRAP.
And if you look at pictures of the crash, the engine block got caught in those steel cables at the bottom.
The safety officials are probably much more interested in how those tires got loose, because they've been dual tethered to the cars since a crash in 1993 launched a tire into the parking lot of a track.
NASCAR has had an ongoing program of safety upgrades to the barriers and once they figure out what happened and how to prevent another penetration, it'll push forward their timeline for upgrading the fences.
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Yeah, because nothing says "being a good guy" like trying to render first aid to someone when you're drunk and don't know the first thing about first aid.
He should've just elbowed his way through there, grabbed a pocket knife from someone, and done surgery right there in the stands.
So in baseball if a fan catches a foul ball or home run ball the MLB lets them keep the ball.
Now in NASCAR if you catch a tire or engine block are you allowed to keep it also?
I have to return some videotapes...
Professional sports at the upper levels priced them selves out of the market years ago. Same with live concerts. I really don't know how they get so many people to pay so much for so little.
"He's lost in a 'floyd hole"
You realize it's contradictory to say they priced themselves out of the market, and that they sell a lot?
In fact, a lot of concerts could easily price tickets much, much higher, and still sell out. They have cheaper tickets to give their less wealthy, but devoted enough to be the first in line, fans a chance to come.
LOL you have never been to a NASCAR race then, while races attract all types, there is definitely not a lack of money at the events. I highly recommend going to a race, they are a blast.
I'm on to you. You just want me to get hit in the skull with a massive NASCAR tire.
I don't know but they have really gotten batshit on the pricing. when I was a teen i went to concerts almost weekly because you could easily afford to, now tickets in the nosebleed section often run close to a hundred bucks.
And is it just me or is anybody else having trouble with YouTube not buffering worth a shit? I go to speedtest and it consistently shows I'm hitting 20Mbps and all the other video sites load and play perfectly but for the past week or so YouTube has stuttered like its on dialup no matter what res I set the video to. I have asked those around me and they are all seeing the same thing, I get told "Oh thank God I thought there was something wrong with my PC" but I've tried 4 different PCs and the results are the same, stutter city. So I am just curious if others are seeing this or if its only in my area.
ACs don't waste your time replying, your posts are never seen by me.
while races attract all types,
Yeah, and they like both types of music at the bars near NASCAR tracks: country and western.
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It isn't just you. My internet speed is actually quite low but YouTube pisses me off to no end. Trying to switch to a lower quality video often makes it load even slower! I wish people would stop using it. It isn't good anymore.
NASCAR fans are among the most loyal to their sponsors which is in part why the sport is so popular with them. They shell out a lot of money and will even switch brands when a favorite team/driver switches.
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