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Minority Report's Legacy of Terrible Interfaces

jfruh writes "More than a decade ago, the special effects artists working the Steven Spielberg film Minority Report synthesized experimental thinking about GUIs to produce a floating interface that Tom Cruise manipulated with his hands. In 2013, surrounded by iOS and Android and Windows 8 devices, we use stripped down versions of this interface every day — and commercial artist Christian Brown thinks that's a bad thing. Such devices may look cinematic, he argues, but they completely ignore the kinds of haptic and textured feedback that have defined how we interact with devices for centuries." Speaking of Minority Report interfaces — a new armband sensor using a gesture-based control scheme is the latest gadget to invoke references to the movie.

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  1. That and... by Press2ToContinue · · Score: 4, Insightful

    1) Gray text
    2) Animations
    3) Swiping
    4) Hiding interface controls
    5) No menus
    6) buttons anywhere all over the screen
    7) "sexy" interfaces

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    1. Re:That and... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      From TFA: "This isn't to argue that touchscreens are useless. They’re a great way to cheaply interact with a small electronic device—like, say, a phone."

      Betamax was better. VHS was cheaper. Better doesn't always win.

    2. Re:That and... by shugah · · Score: 4, Insightful

      While LCD monitor makers are striving to improve contrast ratios and reduce glare – blacker blacks, broader viewing angles and deeper, more vivid colours, futurists envision a world of high glare, transparent monitors where ambient lighting and artifacts on both sides of the glass wash out contrast and colours? Absurd.

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    3. Re:That and... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Replacing a buttons with simple text on them for cute little icons drives me absolutely insane. It's almost like it's a goal to make the lives of people who have to instruct others on how to use their products harder.

      "Click the send button" becomes "Ok, do you see the little box with a picture of an envelope in it with some lines next to it.. in the upper left corner of the screen? You don't. Keep looking"

    4. Re:That and... by green1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      how often do you see a cell phone, tablet, or even laptop with a matte screen? They're almost all high glare nightmares.
      The makers have ignored the best way of reducing glare because a shiny screen looks better, and therefore sells better, right up until the point where you try to actually use the thing.
      The only way around it is to crank up the brightness to try to overcome the glare, kills battery life, but it's worth it for a shiny screen when it's off right????

    5. Re:That and... by cjb658 · · Score: 4, Informative

      I think that's to make it easier to translate the software.

    6. Re:That and... by anakha · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You can add Google's fscking paper plane icon they use as the send button in their Gmail app to that list. Fsckers.

    7. Re:That and... by miknix · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I must admit I recently started looking a lot into http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Desktop_Environment . I was super happy with Gnome 2, my productivity was never higher! Then, *bam* Gnome 3 up my throat, I actually tried to use it for a month but it was too painful - it was slow as hell, crashing all the time. Now I'm with KDE 4, it is not as fast as Gnome 2 but, feature-wise it is in a entirely different league. Still, I feel I don't use most of its features..

      The other day I needed a fancy way to visualize data in a gdb session - that's when I found ddd. The Data Display Debugger http://www.gnu.org/software/ddd/ is written in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motif_(widget_toolkit) . I was amazed how responsive and fast the GUI was. I found the GUI very well organized and not confusing at all to use. So I wonder, why are we really moving away from this? Why is everything turning into eye candy bloatware?

    8. Re:That and... by GrahamCox · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The obvious solution is that we need research into finding a glass-like material that can be switched between shiny ("sales mode") and matte ("use mode'").

    9. Re:That and... by green1 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Or we could save the money on that product which is bound to be a huge cost sink and just use existing matte technologies....

      In fact such a technology exists on almost all modern TVs. they have a "store mode" and a "home mode" the difference is the store mode runs at max brightness at all times so as to wash out the glare. Often times the "home mode" isn't even capable of getting to the same brightness because they would never get energy star certification if it did. (have you ever wondered why electronics ask you when you first set them up if you are a store or not?)

    10. Re:That and... by pthisis · · Score: 5, Informative

      Betamax was better. VHS was cheaper.

      At the outset, Beta had slightly higher video resolution than VHS. VHS had 2-hour tapes rather than Beta's 1-hour tapes.

      How do you say which was "better", objectively? The ability to record a movie while you're out of the house (impossible with a 1-hour Betamax tape) is a huge deal. Not having to turn on the lights and switch tapes halfway through a horror movie (and ruin the mood) isn't nothing. Having the video store's inventory take up half the room is a big deal.

      By the time Beta II speed finally allowed 2-hour tapes, it was competing with VHS HQ. At that point the video quality difference (which was always pretty small to begin with) between VHS and Beta was negligible and depended more on the quality of the player and tape than the format. Meanwhile VHS had added 4- and 6-hour modes.

      And by 1984, Betamax VCRs were selling for about half the price of VHS players and still couldn't get any traction.

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    11. Re:That and... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I think that's to make it easier to translate the software.

      The McDonalds UI, for when your staff are illiterate in six different languages...

    12. Re:That and... by shitzu · · Score: 4, Funny

      Surely you mean four touchdowns in a single game?

    13. Re:That and... by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Insightful

      They are movies, with fictional stories!
      The holographic or transparent screens allows to take shots of the actors face.
      The crazy gestures are so the actors can be emotionally expressive to the viewers.

      If durring the 80s we had a movie of 2013, that got it right it would seem comical in the sense where teenagers are getting bullied over a tiny glowing box. And they are all just crouched tapping the little box. There is no emotion for the movies.

      That is why they had 2013 with big screen tv that video conferences, it made the antagonist seem larger than life and someone for the actor to react too.

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    14. Re:That and... by tehcyder · · Score: 4, Funny

      For example, in China a red envelope is a good thing to receive, whereas in the UK it's a final demand for a bill. An owl signifies intelligence in most of Europe, evil in parts of latin America, and stupidity in much of Asia

      Yet another reason why there should be one world language (UK English) and one world culture (UK/English).

      I leave my location as an exercise for the reader.

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  2. Hollywood Computers by RazorSharp · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I never understood why anyone thought that the computer in Minority Report was something worth pursuing. Futuristic computers in Hollywood movies have always been designed to look cinematic with no regard for how they would actually function. Having an intuitive interface isn't important for Hollywood directors, having something that is interesting for the audience and makes it obvious what's going on is.

    One common example of this is maps. 3D maps are all the rage in Hollywood movies, even when a simple address would suffice. But an address has no cinematic quality, a 3D map does.

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    1. Re:Hollywood Computers by ColdWetDog · · Score: 4, Funny

      What's wrong with looking cinematic? At least people would think I'm doing something when I'm trolling around Slashdot.

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    2. Re:Hollywood Computers by shugah · · Score: 4, Informative

      Oh yeah, and Keanu Reaves (Johnny Mnemonic) did it way before Tom Cruise (Minority Report).

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    3. Re:Hollywood Computers by Let's+All+Be+Chinese · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You ever wondered why everything had to become GUI-shaped, why people genuinely thought that if only everyone would use GUIs then productivity would soar?

      The answer is simple: marketing. It looks shiny. It's got dancing rodents. This sells.

      Hollywood is made of shiny visuals. And, of course, designers love good looking form to the point that function can get skimped on. redmond has been doing their level best to serve up their version of MovieOS, down to the security problems.

      This is also why touchscreens got resurrected. Much sexier to have the display span the entire phone than only half and the rest be buttons. And can possibly be more intuitive than having something present with custom buttons for you to poke at, hm?

      That there are serious downsides to both GUIs (eg. very hard to script and automate compared to CLIs) and touchscreens ("gorilla arm", for one, lack of tactile feedback for another) pales into insignificance next to the sheer power of a shiny all-singing all-dancing presentation carefully serving up some smooth-looking lies.

      Case in point: The new "windows 8" interface and it getting pushed through no matter what, on phones AND desktops. They're giving a powerful message here, and the delivery simply trumps whatever you may want.

      This isn't (anti-)fanboiism, by the by: I could also trot out examples from, say, apple, but they're not nearly as clumsy and blunt about it. You don't get much choice either, but the delivery is so much better ("reality distortion field") that it causes symptoms of religious cults in its adherents, making it that much harder to illustrate with without causing instant flamewar.

      And part of it is indeed that emotions are involved, often enough deliberately so.

    4. Re:Hollywood Computers by Chris+Burke · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If a tree falls in the woods and no-one is there to hear it, is the next tree to fall guilty of plagiarism?

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    5. Re:Hollywood Computers by Jarik+C-Bol · · Score: 3, Funny

      I've never fully understood the need to have little lights on every damn thing. My DSL modem has 5 lights on all the time, some of which blink. My Battery Backup has a light on it, my speakers have a light on them, my Monitor has a light in the power button, my XBox power brick has a light that you might be able to see from orbit, the Power strip in the living room has a light in it, my Laptop has a light that 'breathes' when the computer is asleep. 90% of these device are pretty damn obvious if they are 'On' or 'Off' without a glowing indicator. Hell, I had a router once that had a little blue dome on the top, and inside where about 18 LED's that flashed in some sort of relation to the WIFI activity. Looked like a epileptic stroke at a disco. Later versions of that router came with a button to turn the LED dome off, but the first model just had a little plastic shield you where supposed to clip in place if it was annoying.

      Long story short, Foil Tape with tiny pinholes in it has become my friend. I simply cut a bit of tape, poke a tiny needle-hole in it, and affix it over the LED. I can still see the indicator if I need/desire to, but am not barraged with little flickering lights in my bedroom at night.

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  3. NCIS by stevegee58 · · Score: 4, Informative

    They've used the same style GUI on NCIS and it still looks horrible to use.

    1. Re:NCIS by Tagged_84 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Their GUI seems pretty damn powerful to me http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkDD03yeLnU

  4. no feedback by roc97007 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The biggest problem as I see it is that you can't feel the controls. Like all the interfaces in ST:TNG, there is too much dependence on having to look where your hands are. I think that's a distraction at a very basic level that we haven't fully noticed yet, let alone dealt with in any meaningful way.

    Think of your old-school cell phone. You could make a call, even text, without looking at it. (Or, I could. Your mileage may vary, I guess.) Can you do that with your glass-smooth smartphone now?

    And yeah, I know. "Siri, Call Police!" "Calling Portobello. When would you like reservations?"

    As I see it, the big difference between physical controls and colors and text on a touchscreen is that you can manipulate physical controls while looking elsewhere. There are times when that may be kinda important.

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    1. Re:no feedback by meta-monkey · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Like all the interfaces in ST:TNG, there is too much dependence on having to look where your hands are.

      There are some things TNG predicted well, but a few glaringly funny missteps in retrospect. My two favorite are:

      1) Piles of PADDs. There's a few scenes where someone is "doing a lot of reading" or "has a lot of reports to file" and so they have a bunch of PADDs strewn about their desk. Little did I know I needed a separate Kindle for each ebook I read.

      2) Lt. Commander Data types at consoles and reads screens. Apparently, Data is neither WiFi nor Bluetooth enabled.

      Obviously no one expects the writers to accurately predict the future of computer interfaces in 1988, but these always struck me as funny when I look back.

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    2. Re:no feedback by roc97007 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Star Trek is actually a great illustration of this, there were times in the original series where the actors had their hands on controls but attention focused on the action for dramatic effect, they didn't need to constantly look down as in the Next Generation.

      Exactly. In the old series, the controls may have been in weird shapes and not labeled unless the audience needed them to be, but they were physical controls, and the odd shapes could actually help the operator manipulate them by feel. All that is lost in modern-looking interfaces.

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    3. Re:no feedback by green1 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The biggest problem as I see it is that you can't feel the controls. Like all the interfaces in ST:TNG, there is too much dependence on having to look where your hands are. I think that's a distraction at a very basic level that we haven't fully noticed yet, let alone dealt with in any meaningful way.

      Think of your old-school cell phone. You could make a call, even text, without looking at it. (Or, I could. Your mileage may vary, I guess.) Can you do that with your glass-smooth smartphone now?

      Unfortunately physical buttons are expensive, especially on a device that really needs a touch screen for some things anyway. I clung to my slide out qwerty keyboard for as long as I could, but had to eventually get a touchscreen because that's all the manufacturers want to make.
      The good news is that it's not a problem that people don't know about. And in fact several companies have come up with various technologies to try to make a touchscreen tactile (I saw one idea that was basically inflatable bubbles under the surface of the screen that could inflate buttons as needed, I believe it was blackberry who a while ago made their whole screen push in like a button when you clicked on it, and of course almost every phone these days has haptic feedback (which I usually turn off as soon as I can)). Unfortunately none of these have worked well yet, but give it some time and we may get there yet.

      I do find it interesting that you mention ST:TNG, from what I understand the theory behind their LCARS "touchscreens" was that it actually was tactile, just using a technology that we don't yet have (and that obviously wasn't so visible on screen) with the idea that you could actually have the best of both worlds. A shared console that each user could easily re-arrange for their particular preference, or current task, while still retaining the feel of real buttons. At the moment the idea sounds really appealing, but it's a ways off in implementation yet.

    4. Re:no feedback by DragonWriter · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There are some things TNG predicted well, but a few glaringly funny missteps in retrospect. My two favorite are:

      1) Piles of PADDs. There's a few scenes where someone is "doing a lot of reading" or "has a lot of reports to file" and so they have a bunch of PADDs strewn about their desk. Little did I know I needed a separate Kindle for each ebook I read.

      Lots of the time, they are cross-referencing things in parallel, which is inconvenient on a single screen of that size. With replicators, PADDs are presumably literally as cheap as dirt, rather than luxury gadgets, so there's no real reason not to have one for each document when you need to do that.

    5. Re:no feedback by Grishnakh · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Not only this, but the ST:TNG UIs had tactile feedback, just like mechanical buttons. They did it with miniaturized force fields or somesuch; it's in the TNG Technical Manual. Obviously, force fields aren't real (yet), just like warp drives and artificial gravity, but that's the official explanation which acknowledges that tactile feedback is desirable in a UI. This tech manual came out around 1991-1992, long before this whole touchscreen tactile-feedback-less craze got started.

  5. Touch Screens Suck for a lot of things. by Melibeus · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I remember the local performing arts center getting new stage managers' consoles. The stupid thing was that the que buttons were on a touch screen. So their was no non-visual feedback as to wether it had been pressed or not. A stage manager has to keep their focus on the stage. They went back to the old push button system. This is just one example where the lack of kinaesthetic feedback makes touch screens a bad UI choice. There are many more examples. Wherever one needs to operate a control without looking directly at that control touch screens are a bad choice.

  6. It's a matter of precision by GreggBz · · Score: 4, Interesting

    First, one thing we all probably notice is that your arms are going to get so tired after waving them around so dramatically during a good work session.

    Second, what's always fascinated me, is that these large, exaggerated gesture and touch based interfaces always seem to reduce your big inputs into something more precise, where as a mouse / keyboard interface will magnify your already precise movements into something larger.

    It's a question of precision I guess. A fingertip can cover up to 30 pixels when you hit the screen with it.. A mouse can be made to hover over 1 or 2 pixels before you click it.

  7. Wrong movie to go on! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hackers obviously had the best interface. Why look for a file in an alphabetical list when you can glide around virtual skyscrapers randomly searching for info?

    It's perfect.

  8. Re:"centuries"? by oodaloop · · Score: 5, Funny

    Your mom?

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  9. Cadillac by snspdaarf · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Which is why I am stunned that Cadillac is using this in a car. In fact, they are bragging that this is better than buttons. Because what we need in our cars is more shit that takes our eyes off the road.

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  10. "Terrible?" by meta-monkey · · Score: 5, Informative

    Minority Report's interface was not "terrible." It was really good, and so are most interfaces seen in movies.

    Well, they're really good for doing what they're supposed to do.

    What's the purpose of an interface? To provide a means to make what you want to do understood, and to provide feedback on the results of your actions or requests, and both of these things should be clean and unambiguous.

    In a real-life interface, when you're trying to "ACCESS FILES" you move a tiny cursor with small hand gestures and then double click on a "Documents" folder that's next to a bunch of other folders, all labeled with small text fonts. Then you look past a bunch of unrelated files to find the one you might be looking for. Or type "ls" in a command line and a bunch of filenames scroll by. And if you need to enter a name and password, a small box appears for you, and when you get the password right, the box just disappears with no other information, or you get a small red line of text that says "wrong username or password."

    This is effective for IRL computer systems, as it makes it easy for the user to unambiguously communicate what they're trying to do, and the results are obvious. In a movie, this is terrible. The director has a three second cut to the screen where the hero is trying to ACCESS SECRET FILES before the rogue agent comes back into his office. And you can hear his footsteps coming down the hall! And a cut to the door handle turning! A cut to the hero! And a cut to the screen! And in those brief cuts, you need to unambiguously tell the audience what's going on with the computer. "ACCESS SECRET FILES: ENTER PASSWORD." "ACCESS DENIED." "ENTER PASSWORD." "ACCESS GRANTED!" "COPYING SECRET FILES 15%.30%." Oh, and bonus points if the hero's face is reflected in the screen, because then the audience can see not only that he's trying to ACCESS SECRET FILES but also his intense expression, to build tension in a scene that's basically about pressing buttons on a computer.

    So the interface in Minority Report was great. Cruise was doing something really boring: looking up files on a computer. Spielberg could have just plopped him down in front of Windows 2054 (it's a redress of Windows ME) and had him click on some icons, but instead we get to see exactly what he's doing with big, obvious gestures. "Looking at several videos! Picking these! Rejecting these! Zooming in on these! Marking that!" And all the while you got to see his face through the transparent glass screen. Cruise's actions are clear and unambiguous and his goal and the results are communicated well to the audience. That's a great "interface" between the director and the viewers.

    Just saying, you don't pay Tom Cruise $20 million and then spend 2 minutes of your movie showing a mouse clicking around a screen.

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  11. Minority Report type of Floating Interface? by dgharmon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "In 2013, surrounded by iOS and Android and Windows 8 devices, we use stripped down versions of this interface every day"

    No we don't, iOS and the rest were never based on anything from Minority Report. The problem with a Minority Report type of floating interface is that you arms very quickly get fatigued. See an early 3D file system viewer ..

    FSN -- the IRIX 3D file system tool from Jurassic Park

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  12. "Pictures Under Glass" by Swampash · · Score: 5, Informative

    The key point of the parent article was made back in 2011, and a bit more clearly, by Bret Victor in his article "A Brief Rant on the Future of Interaction Design".

    http://worrydream.com/ABriefRantOnTheFutureOfInteractionDesign/

    It's a great piece.

  13. Samsung should revive the Alias form factor by isdnip · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Samsung's Alias 2 was a great phone. It had a twist-hinge in the middle that could be opened either like a clamshell phone (vertical, for talking) or horizontally as a text keyboard. And the buttons were e-ink, so they took different values depending on how you opened it. Since it was a clamshell, it couldn't butt-dial, and its keyboard was tactile.

    But it was not "smart". It used BREW, Qualcomm's dumb-phone software. The screen wasn't touch-enabled and was small for a smartphone. Still, for someone doing more phoning than surfing, it would be better. Too bad they discontinued the line rather than do an Android version.

    In the meantime I hang on to my old Sammy clamshell, since I use the phone for, uh, phoning and use my computers for email and the web. This way I use appropriate keyboards and no touch screen. Touch screen require good hand-eye coordination and as a fast touch-typist, I don't look at the keyboard, I feel the keys. Touch screens are just useless to me.

    And as others noted above, touch screens in cars should be outlawed as an imminent hazard.