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LG Not Working On Windows Phone 8 Devices
helix2301 sends this quote from CNET:
"LG's reluctance to embrace Windows Phone 8 underscores the difficulties that the platform faces with both consumers and vendor partners. LG was one of the early partners that signed on with Microsoft, releasing the LG Quantum in the first wave of Windows Phone devices. Microsoft's has a great relationship with Nokia, which is considered in the industry first among equals when it comes to Microsoft partners, has some vendors reassessing their own support for the operating system. Over the past year or so, LG has been focusing on Android and has started building phones running on Mozilla's Firefox mobile OS."
Sony not making roller skates. Taco bell not producing it's own TV. Nintendo refusing to make laser pointers.
when given the choice between "you will take this OS as it is, we are not listening to end users or "something else", the manufacturers and users are choosing "something else", after all LG wants to sell phones not participate in some US software companies lock in power games bollocks
Sounds like LG is going to cover the playfield with Android, Firefox OS, maybe even PalmOS? who knows now...
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You're using the metro interface on the intended device, of course it works. Most people's issues with Windows 8 have nothing to do with the mobile market, it's the desktop.
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Yup. The other manufacturers are looking at Nokia sink into the swamp, and have absolutely no desire to tie the WP8 anchor around their legs and jump in the shark-infested waters of Microsoft's "ecosystem" (a word rich in irony when compared to Apple's App Store and Google Play).
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"Microsoft's has a great relationship with Nokia, which is considered in the industry first among equals when it comes to Microsoft partners, has some vendors reassessing their own support for the operating system." Is this supposed to read that Microsoft and Nokia are considered equals, and Microsoft is giving preferential treatment to that vendor? Or is it supposed to read that Nokia has been withdrawing support, and so other vendors are shying away too? Can someone please review these summaries before they get posted to ensure they make sense?
The high end of the smart phone market is occupied by Apple and Samsung. Thats where money is being made. I just bought a Huawei android phone for my son for 60 bucks. Screen resolution and storage are not fantastic but it is great value for money. My current LG phone competed with the Huawei. It is in the same market. Going upscale to compete with Samsung is unlikely to work for LG. Going down scale to compete with Huawei might be possible, but I wonder if they have the manufacturing muscle to pull it off.
Bottom line is the windows is a distraction right now.
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Microsoft's has a great relationship with Nokia
Like a parasite has a great relationship with its host...
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a Nokia Lumia running WP8 [is] compatible with everything else I already do and have.
Is this phone compatible with the priced applications, books, or movies that you purchased on Google Play Store when you owned the Nexus 4? (Or did you not own it long enough to buy any priced works?) Is it compatible with games whose developers have not yet ported them to Windows Phone 8?
I've read a few arguments that a display without touch input is "crappy hardware" for running Windows 8, but then that'd mean almost every desktop PC monitor is "crappy hardware" because it doesn't encourage an interaction modality known for inducing gorilla arm.
I didn't know that having a touchscreen makes the keyboard and mouse melt away and force you to use only the touchscreen thereby turning you into a gorilla.
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Isn't it supposed to be "Windows 8 not working on LG devices"?
Every experiment which ends in a big bang is a good experiment.
I didn't know 13.9% of Italian smartphone buyers lived in Redmond.
http://news.techworld.com/operating-systems/3421936/windows-phone-triples-uk-market-share-in-a-year/
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Samsung's been making Windows mobile and Windows phones since forever.
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As far as I can tell, I have all of the smartphone benefits without much of the cost.
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Not to say that he isn't cherrypicking, but...
Samsung is primarily making non-windows phones and devices.
Blackberry had some sort of agreement with MS, I believe primarily related to Exchange compatability.
HTC makes a mix of windows and android phones.
The points you mention don't refute him as well as you hoped.
I think the complaint was that some of the controls in Windows 8 without a touch screen, such as the invisible corners to activate the Frosted Lucky Charms bar and shut down the machine, are too hard to learn.
I seriously doubt that anyone would be opening the charms bar and shutting down the PC using a touch screen so much that it is going to give you gorilla arm.
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Despite the fact that this is Slashdot, I'm surprised at the number of upvoted anti-MS epithets. I don't see how this needs to have anything to do with the merits of the OS itself when a CEO with an MBA and a Blackberry could easily come to this conclusion on a purely business case.
Neutral phone hardware developers would perceive a small market that requires investment to pursue. Most likely, LG's expected market penetration isn't large enough to justify the investment. And for the cynics, LG could also assume that, to loosely paraphrase Animal Farm, all carriers are equal to MS, but Nokia is 'more equal,' barring antitrust suits. This creates an additional small interest in starving WP of revenue to keep Nokia out of the ring.
It's pretty easy to exceed expectations if you keep your expectations low enough. Nothing in that article directly links Windows Phone 8 as being the reason for turning a small profit, although the $billion or so from Microsoft most certainly helped.
With 9.3 million Asha and 2.2 million Symbian sold at a profit vs. 4.4 million Lumia which are widely reported to be sold at a loss could have been enough to cover up the hole made by Lumia. Operating expenses lowered, by shedding staff and selling off capital like their headquarters, R&D centres and factories and NSN also bringing in some money.
Except that that article doesn't claim that Nokia is making a profit anywhere.
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I like my Quantum, but it is aging. Unfortunately, there is a severe shortage of mid range or highend phones with physical slideout keyboards. I guess this means no Quantum 2
Although I have not installed CyanogenMod on my Nexus 4, as I have on my Asus Transformer Infinity tf700, the option is available and I will probably eventually do so. I am installing nightlies every other day on the Transformer. I have the option not to use Google's services since I have control over the OS. IMO Google is selling the unit at parts cost, that's why it's from the Play store rather than another retailer. Obviously, not being locked in is always considered in my choice of hardware.
Bruce Perens.
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Nokia on Lumia is supply constrained. Given the numbers they are very likely to remain supply constrained until at least 2015.
HTC is currently supply constrained on the 8X. I don't know their future numbers.
Supply constrained is a good thing for a handset manufacturer.
Apple passes LG in mobile US marketshare
LG Overtakes Apple in U.S. Mobile Market Share
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In all fairness, different people have different tastes in things. One of the smartest guys I know is a unix expert but loves the "Bob" and Find-Puppy style features that Microsoft throws into their products. Do I understand it? No way, it completely baffles me, those things make my head hurt. Do I have to understand it? No way, whatever floats boats. As long as I'm not forced to use it, deal with it, or fix it, what do I care what others' taste in software or phones happens to be?
MS8 phone has two main things working against it: the legacy consumer memory of MS phones 1-7, and trying to compete with the feature set provided by the Apple and Play app stores. Both hurdles are huge, for the first they're going to have to drop the price to get people over the fence. For the second they're going to have to pay a lot of people a lot of money to port their apps to the MS environment. Even for a historically MS invested shop that's non-trivial as the interface and delivery envelope is totally different from the desktop. The toolkit and programming language are just details. (and guess what, all that .net know how is soon to be abandonware)
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Except the profits came from the network equipment unit (Nokia Siemens Network) and dumbphones. WP smartphones are a big financial blackhole.
Go figure, and get a clue.
Motorola who was already struggling, and has been for a long time...
Samsung who are making billions from Android devices, their windows phone sales are totally insignificant to them.
Blackberry who's primary product is dependent on microsoft (blackberry server is windows only, and also tied closely to exchange).
Palm were already dying on windows mobile, a platform with no future... HP killed webos without really pushing it properly.
HTC started off doing very well with android, and are now being killed by samsung... HTC also make windows based phones.
MS are ruthless and extremely arrogant, they have never had any qualms about stabbing their partners in the back when it suited them, and there's no reason to believe they won't do it again.
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No, read the article, their smartphone sales as a whole made a profit... A majority of those phones sold were the Asha series, which do not run windows, and a significant portion were also symbian based which again don't run windows.
And this was also over the holiday season, which is traditionally the most profitable quarter.
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Dude Win 8 is deep fried ass, i'm sorry but it is. There are so damned many brain dead decisions that were made that make it not worth having frankly it just staggers the mind. i could sit here all morning typing out all the problems with Win 8 but this video says it better than I ever could. All I will add is this is the first time since WinME that I am NOT carrying MSFT's latest OS in the shop because frankly? Nobody wants it. I had people passing up a really sharp system that was running Windows 8 to take a less powerful system running Win 7, THAT is how much the public don't like Windows 8. as one of the little old ladies that walked into the shop put it so perfectly "Why would I want my computer to look like a cellphone?".
Its just not a desktop OS, its a cellphone/tablet OS that MSFT is trying to force on the desktop hoping folks will "get used to it" and they can steal some of Apple's customers...ha! you'd have better luck strapping wings to Ballmer's ass and getting him to fly south for the winter than to make Windows a "premium" brand. To use a /. car analogy MSFT is trying to slap a paint job on a Pinto and sell it for Porsche money and the public? they ain't buying it.
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With competitors like Nokia and HTC and even Samsung (the least of the three), how could LG compete? Their hardware was always fourth place.
It's funny how the third place Windows Phone, the Samsung Ativ S, is the exact same hardware as the very best Android Phone, the Galaxy S II
Does she do any commercials for Nokia? Or Microsoft?
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