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Blog Reveals a Chinese Military Hacker's Life Is One of Boredom and Bitterness
Nerval's Lobster writes "People's Liberation Army hackers: they're just like us. As noted by IT security firm Mandiant, and detailed in a new article by The Los Angeles Times, a blogger calling themselves 'Rocy Bird' had posted several hundred blog entries over a three-year period about life as a Chinese military hacker. It wasn't the most exciting existence. He worked a normal workday—8 A.M. until 5:30 P.M., unless some project required late hours—and lived in a dorm. He dined often on instant noodles and enjoyed the television series 'Prison Break.' He spent lots of time online, even when off the clock. And like millions of people all over the world, he disliked many aspects of his job. 'What I can't understand is why all the work units are located in the most remote areas of the city,' the hacker, who the Times identified as having the family name Wang, wrote in a portion of a blog posting reprinted by the paper. 'I really don't get what those old guys are thinking in the beginning. They should at least take us young people into consideration. How can passionate young people like us handle a prison-like environment like this?'"
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young people into consideration. i really don't like what these old guys..... Iron Age/Bronze Age/Stone....etc.
Considering the attitudinal similarities between the Chinese military computer hackers and the "hackers"/I.T.workers in the US military branches, I wonder how long it will be until the Chinese have a Bradley Manning of their own?
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Bite the wax tadpole, indeed. I wonder how you translate "Bradley Manning" into Mandarin or Cantonese? Tech workers are pushed around by slave-drivers and middle management everywhere in the world, in all possible environments. Did you catch how his manager was able to expense a $100-equivalent bottle of liquor while the keyboard-combatant couldn't even get $1 reimbursed for bus-ffare to attend a tech conference?
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How do you translate "Dilbert" into Chinese? No need. It's all the same!
Did he ever explore the steam tunnels? Take up lockpicking and go exploring places he wasn't supposed to go? Go looking for parquor lines? If you sit around in your underwear all day playing video games, you can't really complain when life went passing you by. The video games are there to make it do that.
I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?
It's like a Chinese version of an American drone pilot, but with less blood on his hands, and more noodles on his plate.
Yes, everyday. *first thought when I see the new homepage next button*
sysadmins and parents of newborns get the same amount of sleep.
"himself"
No shit, it's called working in IT.
do readers here have those? do most people have those?
Based on the comment in the summary: what did this person think the military was like? Perhaps the people that recruited him sold him a bill of goods: 'Protect the Fatherland! China faces threats on multiple fronts! It'll be better than World of Warcraft and The Matrix combined! Your skill set and our resources will be cracking secrets everywhere in Europe and the U.S.A. and you'll be a hero and celebrated! You'll be part of the select group protecting us from the evil outside our borders that doesn't recognize our sovereignty."
"To stop the terrorists."
A computer security firm 'found' a blog whose source cannot be verified. The content of the blog, apparently written by a specialist computer security agent of the Chinese government, talked about:
... common sense?
- The Chinese military
- The Chinese leadership
- Hacking techniques
- Hacking targets
- Lifestyles of government employed hackers
And was derisive. The Chinese government didn't happen to notice that one of their military intelligence agents living in a military dorm was regularly posting derisive and secret information for 3 years. Just to state the bleedingly obvious here, but this would never happen in the US and the Chinese are much stricter on information control.
So do you trust the Los Angeles Times and a private security agency pitching for government contracts, or
Take the red pill.
Better dead than red !!
Anyone able to find a link to the original blog? (Even if it is in Chinese - Méiguanxì...)
You mean to tell me that such an organized, concerted and government-directed effort by the Chinese to hack other countries on a corporate and national scale is actually BORING?
I can't believe it isn't more of a grass-roots effort with neat 3D graphics and Jolie boobs like in the movie Hackers!!
Sybil.
... says that Rocy Bird currently works for HTC in Taiwan.
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rocy-bird/38/428/74a
I am probably well known for pointing out the issues of the Chinese gov. However, I think that the average Chinese, like any other person on this planet, loves his nation, hates his gov, and simply wants to live and enjoy life. This blog supports this case, though it could easily be written by the propaganda unit.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
If they don't like their jobs, why not outsource it to someone in the US?
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4839271/North-Korean-video-shows-dystopian-America.html
Moral of the story is that you wont be paid as well working for the government in a technical position. It might be a more reliable job, but its not worth it.
Also don't join the military if you don't like long spells of boredom sitting in a shitty room (if your lucky) god knows where with k-rations wearing a uniform.
The Chinese just execute 'em. If too many state secrets get out they'll relocate the malcontents to other provinces until they're too diluted to matter. Hilariously we did that here in America after Hurricane Katrina. They used Fema to move people who'd lost everything all over the country so they couldn't become a dangerous voting block...
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I doubt American hackers have lives which aren't bitter and boring as well. That is the life of a hacker.
Young soldier welcome to the Army.
prison-like environment, remote areas of the city. ;) ). :)
Sounds like the growing pains of the 1950-60's GCHQ and NSA stations around the "Commonwealth" land for signal bases swap.
The conditions in the UK bases where cash strapped - any money raised was going to exotic expensive new equipment and keeping the USA very happy.
The Russians where fast to pick up on the gifted young men and woman in distant lands with very low wages, mounting lifestyle costs and young families.
Add in a cold command structure left over from past wars and many where open to waiting Russian offers.
What has China (and other spook agencies) learned?
Young people with dreams might walk out - dont hire skilled people with any strange imaginations.
Keep tourists, business types, diplomates in other parts of the country/city. If the foreigners venture out they are easy to note.
Hire gifted locals, from trusted families with deep village backgrounds. If you walk out the pain will be massive - up and down the family tree,
If China wants more from its staff they should follow the GCHQ reforms of the 1970-90's (excluding the union issues) - wage and basic working condition improvements.
Drop the military feel - even something as simple as the endless tight "dress" uniforms can make a huge difference to the quality of everyday life to a young officer.
Cash the staff up and offer massive extra rewards for extra long term study (NSA is great at that
If China lets the "anguished person" thing fester they will suffer.
The UK and USA where able to profile and wage up their staff to fix that issue. Long term China will have to make some huge cash investments in domestic tech.
The internet in the USA always was and will be a NSA play thing - totally open to 'cyber command' and will soon go on the offence.
"not elite uber-hackers" seems to show China is just learning like the UK did in the 1950-70's with US tech.
What can China do? Face down the NSA on the "internet" - that did not work well for the Russians.
Go for soft US personal with issues and buy them to sell out the USA? The NSA keeps its staff and exstaff close.
Or just keep chipping away with a broad front of masses of staff hoping a few get into some US box thats open to scripts?
The only problem for the USA is its own staff pushing for cloud and networking - somehow "all" the data been shared will give them insights.
Many spy agencies have lost generations of work due to massive data loss in one go due to a person and in the future a script/hack.
Russia will aim for the person or site, China is going for everything and will see what drops out
All the NSA can do is keep its gems off the network - but the demands of contracts with political/mil friends with cloud tools for sale will be fun to watch.
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
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Exactly! This whole sage has suddenly been blown up recently. They have the full control of their routers and gateway and can fake network addressing information anyway they want, if it is a serious spy operation. Besides, anyone who really know China should know that government departments or employees in china are almost ways just work for their own projects for their own profits, rather than that of the country's.
This whole saga reminds me of the WMD in Iraq claim before the Iraq war. It was so convinced at the time that Iraq was building/storing massive WMD that aimed at US... until we spent trillions of dollar and thousands of lives to find out the whole thing is a flop. So many defense contractors who were friendly to the ruling parties got big rainfall, and nobody really got punished for such terrible intelligence.
This time, though, we will never find out the truth, because we can't possibly invade China to find out. We will just keep spending $$$. Thanks a lot!
Stop complaining, sent your comrade chief porn links or porn video
Heck - let flood the party chief with porn video !!
During Glasnost, Russian reporters on the American election noted not just how similar the US elections were to USSR ones (pick one of two) but how much BETTER the Americans had gotten at totally muzzling the press through unseen torture methods because at no point could the Russians see any sign of the American media asking akward or difficult questions. What terrible gulags must exist to put the fright into the press to such a degree!?!
Well... the answer is of course, the gulag of exile. Ask akward or non-pre-approved questions and you don't get access anymore to special events and then have to explain to your advertisers why your network/newspaper was the one not present at a press conference. It is a marvelous system. You can ask any question you want as a member of the free press at a press conference... you just won't be there to ask them.
The KGB had to actually get out of their chair to supress the media, get their hands bloody. The white house press officer just sends one less invite. It is not just the US doing this, ask the wrong questions and they can't keep you out of the official big gatherings, you just don't get access anymore to all the "optional" stuff. It is so simple but it is where democracy dies. It is not just the ones in power that do it, Palin only does things by invite and with pre-approved lists of questions. Wilders both bans AND is himself banned (right wing dutch politician).
Mind you, the catholics show the other method doesn't really work either. In theory any kardinal can be elected pope... so how come they got the rotten luck every single elected pope turns out to be a war criminal, child molesting bigot? I mean... what are the odds... unless every single catholic is a nasty piece of work... nah... that couldn't be the case could it? Or could it be that if the milk is spoiled, that which rises to the top is not the cream? That any person who makes it into a position of being elected ruler has had to swim in the cesspool for so long, they can't help but got tainted?
That it don't matter how many are up for election, they are all part of the system because the system is what nurtured them?
Geert Wilders is a right wing dutch politician who often bitches about "The Hague" which is our capitol hill. Tiny detail, he is one of the longest serving politicians. It is the clincher for many right wingers, if someone tells you business will solve everything and government is filled with useless people who can't do anything right... and they been in government for decades and have no business experience... do you believe them?
If you are a Republican, you should listen to richest people on this planet since they by your believe system are the most right. So... what do Bill Gates and Warren Buffet have to say about politics? Mmm?
We are the cesspool and our leaders are what floated to the top.
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Following what the LA Times claimed to have done to find his blog, I believe this is the first post in question since it matches their description:
http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_4910b511010004jr.html
Ha! We've got him now!
Modern copyright is theft of culture from everyone and it retards the progress of the useful arts and sciences.
one word: fiction
That's all this is - trying to get bleeding-heart Americans to feel like their enemy is "just a regular guy" like them.
Let's get one thing straight. China is an enemy, not an ally. They are not our friend. They are simply exploiting us financially and waging an electronic war to steal information to help them achieve those ends.
My hear bleeds purple peanut butter for these international cybercriminals. They and especially their leaders need to spend a lot of time in a real prison without electricity.
Well that really narrows it down to about 92.88 million people, or about 7.25% of the general population of China
How can passionate young people like us handle a prison-like environment like this?
Your whole fucking nation is a prison.
Chinese hackers are just like regular hackers!
Join the military or starve to death. Course, the same could be said of many "willing" recruits in the United States as well. Join the military or ask, "Do you want fries with that?" for the rest of your fucking life.
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re: Just earlier this week I called out one of my senators on twitter and he responded to me with the truth. It was amazing. Get everyone to start doing it.
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Cool! Can you point me to the tweets? I'd like to see some truth spouted by a congress-critter! Actually, I am serious, I'd love to see what the senator twittered/tweeted.
Has anyone come across this blog which the paper is basing its artixcle on?! I couldn't find anything or any traceas to it..even if it had been taken down, there would still be dead links.. ta
"a blogger calling themselves 'Rocy Bird' "
In China, a blogger consists of multiple persons with multiple selves.
How do they do that?
3 years ago.
I'm a born US citizen inside the US. 3 years ago I had been blocked for 24 hours from all google owned sites, including youtube, for searching for the 'wrong' Chinese terms.
Like China and Russia, the United States has political prisoners. Barrett Brown is now serving a 100 year sentence for, you could say, being a political blogger. He didn't leak anything, just published and linked to material that others leaked; same as New York Times and google.
Soldiers/secret police are allowed to yank a citizen off the road to make them disappear. Potentially forever, thanks to the NDAA bill that Obama signed it law. Here's a video of precisely that happening during G20, dated 9/24/2009. The video depicts camouflaged men dragging someone (a protestor?) into an unmarked gray car. The car then drives off to the left. Justin Hallman, a student was recently investigated by the FBI for reposted the video as part of a school project. If the military G20 arrest was fake, why would the FBI bother to knock on the door of the person who reposted it?
Hey, like my life, too!