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Most IT Admins Have Considered Quitting Due To Stress

Orome1 writes "The number of IT professionals considering leaving their job due to workplace stress has jumped from 69% last year to 73%. One-third of those surveyed cited dealing with managers as their most stressful job requirement, particularly for IT staff in larger organizations. Handling end user support requests, budget squeeze and tight deadlines were also listed as the main causes of workplace stress for IT managers. Although users are not causing IT staff as much stress as they used to, it isn't stopping them from creating moments that make IT admins want to tear their hair out in frustration. Of great concern is the impact that work stress is having on health and relationships. While a total of 80% of participants revealed that their job had negatively impacted their personal life in some way, the survey discovered some significant personal impact: 18% have suffered stress-related health issues due to their work, and 28% have lost sleep due to work."

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  1. IT admins are special by Tourney3p0 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Join the club. We meet at the bar after work.

    1. Re:IT admins are special by Kaptain+Kruton · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The bar must be empty because the work never ends.

    2. Re:IT admins are special by i+kan+reed · · Score: 5, Insightful

      As an software engineer(and thus not an IT admin), IT admins have it much worse than most middle class office workers. They get shit on over the smallest thing, and are the only IT employees who are expected to deliver within minutes of being asked. I don't think it's a stretch to say their stress levels might be higher than yours.

    3. Re:IT admins are special by jedidiah · · Score: 4, Interesting

      In terms of certain job expectations they are. These include longer hours and working weekends and during the 3rd shift.

      A lot of mundanes don't understand this. They hear that you've got some office job and they don't understand why you would be working those kinds of hours.

      Clueless spouses can add to the stress level. Even spouses that are part of the workforce can be ignorant and unsympathetic.

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    4. Re:IT admins are special by jellomizer · · Score: 5, Funny

      No your wife will not understand no matter what your job is. She will undoubtedly have worked more then you did, no matter what.

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    5. Re:IT admins are special by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Which Bar? The Foo Bar?

    6. Re:IT admins are special by noh8rz10 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      agreed with Tourney... lots of jobs really suck, and lots of people are stressed to the point of health impacts and have considered quitting. Many of these jobs pay significantly less than IT wages. also, the survey in the summary showed a jump from 69% last year to 73% this year? stop the presses!

    7. Re:IT admins are special by BrokenSoldier · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Depends on where he lives.

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    8. Re:IT admins are special by h4rr4r · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That is only $48k. That is terrible pay for sysadmin work.

    9. Re:IT admins are special by ogar572 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Based on this comment, it seems you have been married awhile.

    10. Re:IT admins are special by sl4shd0rk · · Score: 4, Funny

      Keep a bottle in your desk so the bar never ends.

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    11. Re:IT admins are special by Culture20 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      lots of jobs really suck, and lots of people are stressed to the point of health impacts and have considered quitting. Many of these jobs pay significantly less than IT wages.

      Whenever I get stressed out, I remember the jobs I did before/while I was in college, and I'm happy to be where I am. I can't imagine what today's grads do without any work experience at low-wage McJobs. Consider quitting I guess?

    12. Re:IT admins are special by Synerg1y · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Life was simpler back then too... the female co-workers were also hotter.

      It's the fear of uncertainty that prevents a lot of people from quitting and the family dynamic also plays a heavy hand in it. Ultimately, you have to have confidence in yourself and a savings account to successfully quit a job you don't like... but this factors in on the 90% vs 10% competence ratio most people agree on in IT: Some people everybody wants, some people are happy anybody wants them to work for them.

      My advice is and always will be: go read some tech books and pick up relevant skills,... or go back to school. Managers tend to be happy (regardless of how they act towards you!) and that's due to the 75k happy mark.

    13. Re:IT admins are special by osu-neko · · Score: 5, Funny

      My commute is 5 minutes, I never see users and I still would not go for that deal.

      For $11/hour you can work at McDonalds.

      I'd do admin work for that kind of pay, but there's no way you could get me to work at any kind of restaurant for that little... that's real work.

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    14. Re:IT admins are special by Synerg1y · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The reason most of you work so many hours is because you're sheeple. I'm sorry to say this and I don't say it in a funny sense at all, but at some point you've got to put your foot down... if somebody asked me to work on a Saturday I'd ask not to work on that Monday, if they need me for both... well shit pay me. And management knows I'll work on a Saturday, I've stated it multiple times... I've been asked once... for the ERP system transition (big big fish).

    15. Re:IT admins are special by bzipitidoo · · Score: 4, Interesting

      None of my high paying jobs have been any fun. Seems that enjoying your job is somehow immoral. Many managers think that if you aren't stressed, you must not have enough work to do. A bigger problem is that if you're on a job at a foundering company, it doesn't matter how good your work is. The company is failing, and some will be looking for others to blame.

      The only fun job I had was a low paying one. Because it was low pay, I didn't care about being fired. Nor did I have to worry about it. Would have been easy to find a higher paying job, and they were not going to be able to easily replace me, not at that pay rate. Actually did a better job than if I had been under the gun.

      The most stressful job I ever had was one in which the project didn't just fail, it never got off the ground because the various factions were too busy fighting each other to agree on what to do. All sides were slamming everyone involved. If I didn't present a plan, I got beat up for that. When I did present a plan, I got beat up on the pretext of it being inadequate, and me being too stupid to understand that it wasn't adequate. The actual reason was that the manager was a fool who felt it was necessary for his job security that the plan be his plan. Didn't address the substance of any of the ideas at all, in large part because he didn't have the competence to do so. All that mattered to him was that his name was on it. He often took others' plans, tweaked them in ways he thought made them more palatable but actually made them less credible, such as by removing time allotted to deal with various difficulties we were trying to anticipate. Naturally, he'd harshly criticize the person responsible for putting in such "negative" things. And every time the other teams tore "his" plan apart. Then it was quickly revealed that it wasn't actually his plan after all, it was someone else's plan even when it wasn't. He would of course return the favor and try to rip their plans apart. In hindsight, I should have just quit that job, it was that bad. In the end, in a desperate attempt by management to save their own necks, the lowly among us were blamed and "quitted". But it didn't work, and shortly after, the company lost the contract and they lost their jobs.

      No doubt McJobs have horrible managers, but their power and leverage is more limited. A McJob simply doesn't have the same level of responsibility, and there's not a whole lot they can credibly blame on some poor peon. Nor is the threat of wrecking your career particularly credible. When you have more responsibility, you can be criticized and blamed for more things, be more easily made into a scapegoat, and your career can be ruined. Have you ever heard of anyone going on a murder/suicide frenzy over a McJob? I haven't. Possibly the closest are the "going postal" incidents. Suicides happen with a bit more frequency in jobs with more responsibility.

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    16. Re:IT admins are special by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Stress is still stress whether you make 6 figures or are barely scraping by.

      Nonsense. You don't know what stress is until you have four hungry kids and no job. I started at the bottom of the tech world, but today I make a solid six figure salary. Money like that can smooth out a lot of life's problems.

    17. Re:IT admins are special by TapeCutter · · Score: 5, Interesting

      There is quite a lot of evidence that societies where the wealth gap is smaller (say Norway) are a happier. In other words it's not so much what you are getting, it's more about getting your "fair" share of it. Makes sense when you look at a bunch of smiling African villagers all living hand to mouth. If you follow the money = happiness theory those villagers should all be suicidal.

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    18. Re:IT admins are special by TapeCutter · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Old fart Aussie here, working life summary; rural HS drop out -15ys blue collar - Degree - 20+yrs white collar. (military draft ended when I was 15).
      Agree with the your "relativity" theory. You want stress then drive a taxi at night, you want physical and mental exhaustion to the point of visual hallucinations then work as a deck hand in the souther ocean. Most of the stress in an office comes from two sources, yourself and bully boy superiors. Out of those two, it's your own "wheels" that are more likely to drive you crazy. I find it helps if you have a soothing soundtrack for your memories..

      Take it easy, take it easy.
      Don't let the sound of your own wheels drive you crazy .
      Lighten up while you still can.
      Don't even try to understand.
      Just find a place to make your stand, and take it easy.

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  2. Lying liars and the lies they lie about by ZaMoose · · Score: 5, Informative

    Only 73% have considered quitting? The other 27% are lying to you, probably because they're worried that the survey is being snooped on by the corporate Barracuda firewall.

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    1. Re:Lying liars and the lies they lie about by osu-neko · · Score: 4, Funny

      No. They're just developers. They're not stressed as much because they don't have to carry a production pager or respond when their code blows up in the wee hours of the night.

      That depends on the developer... I've gotten midnight calls before. Granted, my boss was insane. He'd call me in the middle of the night to discuss an idea he just had to discuss for the project... I compiled sufficient evidence to support the theory that the man does not, in fact, sleep. At all, ever. I've seen him during daylight, though, even in direct sunlight, and he seemed perfectly okay with it (unlike me, I sunburn in approximately 15 seconds). He got annoyed when I stopped answering the phone in the middle of the night. "What if it's an emergency?", he asked. I told him if it was an emergency, call 911. I'm incapable of handling emergencies, I can only fix bugs and computer problems, and since our computers aren't running life support equipment, my software can all blow up, crash, and cause the servers to explode, but unless someone is in the room and severely injured by the explosion, this does not constitute an emergency, and if that does happen, I'm the last person you want trying to perform life-saving surgery to remove shrapnel.

      I don't work there anymore...

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  3. Thats why your #1 priority in an interview is: by meatspray · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Picking your boss. If you're not up a creek looking for work, that interview is to let you meet your managers, talk to some workers about the managers.

    When I started working it was "If I can just get in the door"

    When I was in my 20's it was "What cool things will this job do for me"

    Now That i'm in my 30's its "Will I be able to work with these people"

    1. Re:Thats why your #1 priority in an interview is: by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 5, Interesting

      "Management" as being the worst part of I.T. fits right into my career experience.

      I've worked providing computer resources to non-technical (or at least not technical in computer areas) people during my career, and I have had a number of bosses who just would not listen. Some of it was that computer work was so outside their experience that it was magic, and if something is "magic" it takes no time or money to do. Users and management see too much stuff in I.T. as nothing more than flipping a switch because of their low knowledge level.

      For other bosses it was a more fundamental problem that's seen everywhere: management not listening to an expert when he/she says something they don't like.

      My advice to managers of all sorts: you should choose between two states with experts: trust the person you hire and listen to what he/she says or get rid of that expert. There should be nothing in the middle. You are going to lose those experts if you constantly second guess them or force them into situations that they have told you are not sustainable. Learn to listen.

  4. It's about being "Always on" by Midnight_Falcon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm an IT professional and more than once I've thought about quitting, especially when I was doing high-stress consulting. Clients treat you like meat, like "the help." They have no problem waking you up at 5AM with nonsense problems. If you don't answer and do it politely, they call your boss and then your job/livelihood is in jeopardy.

    This isn't just a 9-5 thing where, when you leave the office, you're no longer on the hook -- it's always happening. Sometimes, you're at a bar at 10PM and you get an urgent call -- pick it up, and you in your tipsy state are now on the hook to resolve an important issue.

    The fear of getting these calls has made me stay home sometimes when I could have been being social, and not travel away on vacation when I knew some action was going on I'd be needed for. It creates a lot of stress to be depended on so much, and now with telecommuting, you're expected to be responsive at all times wherever you are.

    It's a lot of stress even in the best setup/most-redundant environments, and the job is not for everyone. And when projects come up that are difficult and highly user-facing, it's hard to avoid this type of a situation.

    1. Re:It's about being "Always on" by nine-times · · Score: 4, Informative

      It seems to me that it's a little worse with IT support than with many other comparably skilled jobs. In recent years, there's been a competitive race-to-the-bottom. No one wants to pay for IT, and so there's been a trend towards MSPs instead of in-house IT. Those MSPs are competing by promising clients the moon. They can't deliver on the moon, obviously, but they push their employees to try. Meanwhile, the MSPs are making their money by being understaffed.

      At least that's what I'm seeing. It seems like the MSPs are going in saying, "We'll provide full support 24/7 365 days a year." Meanwhile they have 3 employees, all of whom work full time during business hours, but are asked to also be on call 24/7 without taking real vacations.

      I'm not saying that's unique to IT support workers, but it doesn't seem to be the norm.

  5. Re:Rapid change in IT is the problem by tokencode · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In IT the only constant is change.

  6. Have to wonder ... by PhxBlue · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How much of that manager-induced stress is a result of managers who don't know how to lead?

    If I'm the head of the department you work in, then my No. 1 job is to clear obstacles out of your way so you can do yours. If I'm the head of a different department that relies on you (as an infrastructure manager) to do its job, then my No. 1 job is to work with you to find the most reasonable way of making it happen.

    On the other side of that, though, I've run into folks who think they're the gatekeepers just because they have the keys to the building. Any good manager should take "no" for an answer from IT if IT just can't do it, e.g., it introduces unacceptable security risk, the infrastructure just isn't there, etc. But an IT person who says it can't be done and won't explain why shouldn't expect to stick around very long.

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    1. Re:Have to wonder ... by nine-times · · Score: 5, Interesting

      If I'm the head of the department you work in, then my No. 1 job is to clear obstacles out of your way so you can do yours.

      The best boss I ever had once told me, "My job is to make sure that you don't have to worry about anything except doing your job."

      That is, if your job is to make sure the server has zero downtime, his job is to take care of the office politics, budgeting, etc. so that you can focus on keeping the servers running. Some other manager within the company decides he doesn't like you? Well that's your his job to deal with. You need a piece of equipment that won't fit into the budget? His job. HR has stupid requirements for filling out timesheets? His job. Any goddamn thing other than showing up in the morning and keeping the servers running? His job.

      Keeping the servers running? Your job.

      And he fulfilled his job description. My job at the time was a fair bit more complicated than "keeping the servers running," but the point is that I had a job description, and I didn't have to deal with anything that fell outside of that job description. And do you know how I knew what my job description was? My manager made it very clear, because it was his job. He didn't want me to spend my time trying to figure out what I should and should not do. He made it clear that if I was unsure what I should be doing, I should ask him because if I'm confused, then he's not doing his job.

      Now that's a goddamn manager. I miss that guy.

  7. Re:Rapid change in IT is the problem by Yold · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's not a matter of maturity. Many organizations hide behind the disclaimer "we are not an I.T. company", despite having sizable I.T. departments. And despite having this sizable department, which offers mission-critical applications and infrastructure, zero effort is made towards working smarter. Problems are fixed with mandatory overtime, cutting staffing/costs, and "quick-and-dirty" fixes to long standing problems.

    I think some companies are starting to understand that their project management methodologies are flawed, but most cannot connect the concepts of "software debt" to decreasing marginal output in their I.T. efforts. An hour of work today is less effective than in the past because you are paying "interest" on your previous bad decisions.

    I think that the 27% is reflective of companies that can connect the longevity and cost-effectiveness of I.T. systems to proper project planning, management, and I.T. expertise. Whether or not this is an upper-bound remains to be seen, because a lot of organizations simply don't understand that inventing your own project management ideas dooms you to repeating the same failures that have happened over the last 50 years.

  8. Yay Shingles! by Wow8agger · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I run a managed services department (so essentially I'm an IT director), and I think it's probably one of the most high stress positions that I've ever held. I'm on call 24x7, there is always money on the line, and it's a highly competitive industry.

    It was summer, and it started as just a weird burning/itching feeling along my right armpit, and I initially thought that I had gotten some poison oak/ivy/whatever on myself. I rubbed some calomine on it, and called it a day. Fast forward three days, and I had a incredibly painful rash that ran in a band from the center of my chest, under my armpit, and around the back of my shoulder. And holy shit did it hurt. Now I'm only in my early 30's, and for someone my age, Shingles really only has one source - stress. That particular week I had 26 customer facing engagements, and had worked 70+ for over a month.

    It was definitely a clarifying moment for me, and was directly responsible for my current attitude where we overstaff our department a little bit to keep the workload manageable, and I keep an eye on peoples timecards, and start hassling them about flextime when they go over 50 hours. The extra work hours just aren't worth the risk of someone having a health meltdown of some sort.

    -matt

  9. Re:Rapid change in IT is the problem by nine-times · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It is strange, when you think about it, the way that the IT department tends to get segregated off from the rest of operations. You have companies where people do 100% of their work on a computer, where the company *can not function* when the Internet goes out, and yet IT is treated as an afterthought. The people running these companies think that running an IT department is as easy as "running out to Best Buy and picking up a computer," and then they get annoyed when their IT services are unreliable.

    I would have thought that, with as ubiquitous as computers are in business, IT work would be considered valuable. It's as though you have a company that ships things across the country by truck, but they don't think their mechanics are important, and they freak out when the mechanics want to have proper equipment for fixing the trucks. And worse, they don't think any of their truck drivers need to know how to drive. When their drivers put the truck in a ditch, they complain that the mechanics haven't made the truck crash-proof.