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Cuban Video Game Recreates Revolutionary History

Hugh Pickens writes writes "The Guardian reports that Cuban programmers have unveiled a new 3D video game that puts a revolutionary twist on gaming, letting players recreate decisive clashes from the 1959 uprising in which many of their grandparents fought. 'The player identifies with the history of Cuba,' says Haylin Corujo, head of video game studies for Cuba's Youth Computing Club and leader of the team of developers who created Gesta Final – roughly translated as 'Final Heroic Deed'. 'You can be a participant in the battles that were fought in the war from '56 to '59.' The game begins with the user joining the 82 rebels who in 1956 sailed to Cuba from Mexico aboard the Granma. Players then fight their way through swamps shoulder-to-shoulder with bearded guerrillas clad in the olive green of Fidel Castro and Ernesto 'Che' Guevara to topple 1950s Cuban dictator Fulgencio Batista. The game lets you pick from three player profiles, one in an olive hat similar to the one Fidel Castro was known for, another wearing a Guevara-style beret and the last with the kind of helmet worn by the ill-fated Camilo Cienfuegos in many revolution-era photographs. Rene Vargas, a 29-year-old gamer who tried his hand at 'Gesta Final' when it was presented at a technology fair in Havana last week, says the graphics were surprisingly sophisticated. 'Bearing in mind the level of technical support there is in Cuba, it looks pretty good,' says Vargas. There are about 783,000 computers in this country of some 11 million inhabitants, according to government statistics from 2011. Private ownership of computers is low, but many Cubans access them at work, school or cyber cafes. 'We developed (it) keeping in mind the purchasing power and reality of Cubans,' says Corujo. 'It doesn't require incredible technological features.'"

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  1. In other news... by Tastecicles · · Score: 0, Troll

    ....German MMO developers announce an Alpha of a Reichstag recreation.

    o.0

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    1. Re:In other news... by swampfriend · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You're comparing the Cuban Revolution to the rise of Nazi Germany? Congratulations on almost completing your American primary public education little guy.

    2. Re:In other news... by some+old+guy · · Score: 1, Insightful

      When you have a combat boot crushing your throat, it doesn't matter if its a Left boot or a Right boot.

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    3. Re:In other news... by swampfriend · · Score: 5, Informative

      Yes, that is exactly the kind of meaningless "political" "opinion" I'm talking about. What do you know about people crushing other people's throats with combat boots in the Cuban revolution? A revolution in which 58 men inspired a country of 6.5 million to throw out a dictatorial, postcolonial government? You know nothing.

    4. Re:In other news... by ElectricTurtle · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      And then establish an even more brutal police state where even more people were imprisoned, tortured and murdered without due process? You call other people ignorant when you willfully ignore the crimes of the Cuban communists.

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    5. Re:In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Batista's regime can hardly claim the moral high ground, but the same can be said for Castro, Guevara and the revolutionaries. In fact, in any armed conflict, there are some rather bloody hands on both sides (figuratively speaking). It's important not to put anyone on a pedestal simply because of some view they espoused, without taking a long hard look at the actions they took to realize those views.

    6. Re:In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      As opposed to your "opinion" where Che and Castro were angels and didn't kill anybody opposed to a complete nationalization of the Cuban economy. Propaganda comes from all sides, including your leftist friends, and until you grow up enough to recognize that fact, you only know one side of history--precisely what you accuse the grandparent of. Let's just hope you do not follow Che's path and kill him because your political disagreement.

    7. Re:In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      "Even more" just proves your complete ignorance on the subject, Castro's revolution had its flaws but he never openly tortured or killed his fellow citizens, much less in the scale the old Batista dictatorship did. And whenever they did something unsavory like executing war criminals, torturers or delators, they did follow due process every single time.

      Yes, you are not only ignorant, but your ignorance is kind of amusing, taking in account that their prison rate is nowhere close to the US one and AFAIK there is no evidence they ever executed a person that was a minor when omitting a crime, mentally ill and their statistics don't show any racial bias towards capital punishment (that FYI has been in a moratorium for 20+ years except for one single instance of boat hijackers that killed someone while stealing a ship to get to the US).

      Make a favor to yourself and inform on a subject before forming an opinion, education gaps, fox news and plain old cold war propaganda won't get you far in life.

    8. Re:In other news... by Tastecicles · · Score: 1

      fail. I didn't go to an American school.

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    9. Re:In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Look you may not know this, but the Batista government was the bad guy, and was a puppet government propped up by the US after the Spanish American war...you know the one US started so they could get take huge chunks of spanish territory. Before those 82 rebels started their revolution Cuba had the following problems:

        75% of rural dwellings were huts made from palm trees.
      More than 50% had no toilets of any kind.
      85% had no inside running water.
      91% had no electricity.
      There was only 1 doctor per 2,000 people in rural areas.
      More than one-third of the rural population had intestinal parasites.
      Only 4% of Cuban peasants ate meat regularly; only 1% ate fish, less than 2% eggs, 3% bread, 11% milk; none ate green vegetables.
      The average annual income among peasants was $91 (1956), less than 1/3 of the national income per person.
      45% of the rural population was illiterate; 44% had never attended a school.

      Now they have a better Literacy, infant mortality and healthcare than the US. I would call that a pretty heroic tale.

    10. Re:In other news... by Tastecicles · · Score: 1

      ...and yes, I am comparing a REVOLUTION to ANOTHER REVOLUTION.

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    11. Re:In other news... by dbIII · · Score: 1

      What do you think about Greece now then? Spain? Or Japan if a couple more decades isn't too long ago?

      Just let it go.
      A bunch of people murdered a corrupt government, kicked out foreign gangsters (with political connections otherwise they wouldn't have been so much stink from the USA for so many years), and being a bunch of murderers running a revolution a lot of other people got killed too for a few years afterwards. That's what happens with revolutions when you are revolting against people there and in your face and not on the other side of an ocean kept away by the French.

    12. Re:In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope, they never executed anyone because of the opposition to nationalization. Of course that depends on HOW you opposed said nationalization, if by opposing you mean taking arms in the losing side of the called "war against bandits", well, some died in combat, others were executed because of the atrocities they committed while most survivors ended with long prison sentences.

      The record of executions is floating around somewhere in the web and is relatively short taking in account that Batista regime tortured and killed people in the thousands.

    13. Re:In other news... by _Sharp'r_ · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Now they have a better Literacy, infant mortality and healthcare than the US.

      Uhh... Bullshit? It always amazes me that so many people are willing to credulousness accept "statistics" like that from total propaganda. You probably also believed that the Soviet Union was a massive economic powerhouse for it's people in the 80s, right?

      Hint: People don't take leaky boats and swim across oceans to get elsewhere because where they live is just too wonderful for them to handle. Try talking to someone who's actually lived in Cuba and then escaped.

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    14. Re:In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      "...they did follow due process every single time"

      citation needed...

    15. Re:In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The escapees were/are criminals. Look at the riots they cause while waiting to be processed. Is that the way to act as a guest in somebody else's house. I would think not! We should be sending them back, and would doing exactly that if we were on more friendly terms, regardless of their despotism. In other words look at how we treat Guatemalan and Salvadorian refugees.

    16. Re:In other news... by einar2 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So... you doubt the propaganda of other countries but you believe the one fed to you by your leaders.

      Hint: My working colleagues did not leave the US because it was so great to live there...

    17. Re:In other news... by khallow · · Score: 1

      Those refugee "escapees" were almost 10% of Cuba's population. That's an awful lot of criminals per capita.

    18. Re:In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Upmod dis piece of chit.

    19. Re:In other news... by Hentes · · Score: 4, Informative

      Of course they are not as developed as the US, but that's true for most countries. Cuba has a relatively high HDI, according to the UN, not the Cuban government.

    20. Re:In other news... by Hentes · · Score: 1

      He is comparing propaganda to propaganda. Although truth to be told you can't play as Nazis in American shooters so it would be only fair.

    21. Re:In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bullshit? You really believe that the US has a better healthcare system than *any* developed or semi-developed country??

    22. Re:In other news... by Eunuchswear · · Score: 1

      True. The US has the largest prison population per capita and even there it's only 1% of the adult population.

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    23. Re:In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      As the son of exiles and someone who knows many families who lost loved ones to the lack of due process, please stop your ignorant rants and stop reading 'Internet Facts' written by the same people that did the atrocities which are all too well known to those that actually lived through it. You are insulting the memory of many people who actually wanted a truly free and democratic Cuba, and were not afraid to speak out against what they knew even back then was just an exchange from one bad dictatorship to another. The medicine is not better; nor is the education and overall quality of life, but you wouldn't know that unless you actually knew people from there or gone to visit Cuba yourself, and I'm not talking about the tourist areas.

      I hope this is an early April Fools joke, even if it is a bad one.

    24. Re:In other news... by dryeo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      People don't do the same thing to escape the wonderful capitalistic democracies of Mexico and various Central American states?

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    25. Re:In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      "Hundreds of Batista-era agents, policemen and soldiers were put on public trial for human rights abuses, war crimes, murder and torture. Most of the people accused were convicted by revolutionary tribunals of political crimes, and were executed by firing squad; others persons received long sentences of imprisonment. A notable example of revolutionary justice was after the capture of Santiago, Raul Castro directed the execution of more than seventy Batista POWs.[24]

      For his part in taking Havana, Che Guevara was appointed supreme prosecutor in La Cabaña Fortress. This was part of a large-scale attempt by Fidel Castro to cleanse the security forces of Batista loyalists and potential opponents of the new revolutionary regime. Others were fortunate enough to be dismissed from the army and police without prosecution, and some high-ranking officials in the ancien régime were exiled as military attachés.[24]"

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Revolution#Aftermath

    26. Re:In other news... by blind+biker · · Score: 3, Informative

      Cuba definitely does have better healthcare than the US, where 50 million people have none.

      For instance, Cuba has two and a half more doctors per capita than the US

      Oh, and here's another datapoint: the table shows literacy levels in Cuba being higher than the USA.

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    27. Re:In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Try talking to someone who's actually lived in Cuba and then escaped.

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/centralamericaandthecaribbean/cuba/9801095/Cuba-ends-exit-visa-requirement.html

      "I wanted to go to Venezuela. But it turns out you have to have permission from them!"

      Cubans, like those of most other developing countries, will still find it difficult in many cases to get visas from wealthier nations like the US. Several European diplomats in Havana said their embassies have received a high volume of calls from would-be travellers unaware that they would still need a visa, despite a campaign in official Cuban media to clarify the new requirements.

      Hmmm, so why are they not allowed to escape their "tyranny" now? Why isn't US granting landed immigrant status to every single one in Cuba wanting to leave tomorrow?

      It is *all* politics. And if you just listen to the "survivors" and "escapees" and the like, you just know one side of the story. Just like that story about Saddam's mobile WMDs program, drug labs in semis and secret underground cities.

      Economic migration is nothing new. It happens all the time. Everything else is bullshit.

      As for political prisoners and asylum seekers, well, Julian Assange anyone? Lots and lots of other examples. There is no special countries.

      PS. Childhood mortality rates in Cuba are lower than in the US, primarily because of universal heathcare in Cuba. US is the only wealthy nation in the world that does not provide healthcare coverage to its population!

    28. Re:In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Say what you will about the Cuban state, but they do have a lower infant mortality rate and a higher literacy rate than the US.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_infant_mortality_rate
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_literacy_rate

      So although it might not be the best place to live, there is no bullshit in the OP's post.

    29. Re:In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You should ask your parents what exactly they did to deserve the public revolutionary trials. As them how many people they tortured or killed, or how many were killed because of their denouncing to a corrupt military dictatorship drunk on the blood of countless people.

      And don't be a fool, I visit Cuba regularly and have several friends over there, they even got me to "la cabaña", the place where the trials and executions took place. I even got the list of executions, and even while I disagree in principle to the summary trials, the numbers were quite lower than I expected based in the hype from the Miami crowd.

      As for a joke, supporting 50 years of embargo against your won people with the explicit goal to create hardship and unrest is not even funny.

    30. Re:In other news... by BitZtream · · Score: 0

      You are an idiot beyond believe.

      Cuba doesn't, in any way, have better health care, but you go ahead and move your ass to Cuba and take it instead. Go ahead, we won't miss you.

      EVERY American has health care, it just comes with strings attached. And no, it isn't there to solve all your problems, but it will prevent you from dropping dead.

      Perhaps you are unaware of legal requirements in health care facilities, but the only reason anyone in my lifetime has not gotten medical care is because they didn't walk into the ER, and if you don't make it to the ER or to an Ambulance, thats your fault, not mine.

      America doesn't have sit on your fat ass and have no interest in your own life health care for all. It does require you to put some effort into it if you want something other than emergency only coverage. Considering there is exactly 0 reasons for you to be so poor you can't afford health 'insurance' in America, you can't really play that card.

      Unlike Cuba, where even in the hospital, you're odds are shitty ... assuming you don't die in line first.

      But hey, lets pretend its the same thing because you're too ignorant to know the truth from propaganda yourself even when seeing the truth requires nothing more than opening your fucking eyes.

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    31. Re:In other news... by del_diablo · · Score: 1

      So the nepotic upper middleclass and people who took the chance to run was equal to 10% of the population? How many of those people where even Cuban for that matter?

    32. Re:In other news... by blind+biker · · Score: 2

      Dude... 50 million without healthcare.

      You know which other first world country doesn't have universal heathcare?

      None.

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    33. Re:In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      BUT! BUT! BUT! MUH FREEDOMS!

    34. Re:In other news... by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 1, Insightful

      "A revolution in which 58 men inspired a country of 6.5 million to throw out a dictatorial, postcolonial government?"

      ... and replaced it with another dictatorial, post-colonial government.

      Am I supposed to be impressed?

    35. Re:In other news... by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 0

      "... with political connections otherwise they wouldn't have been so much stink from the USA for so many years..."

      Actually, the main reason for the stink was Cuba's militant ties to Russia and other Communist wannabes. Which was a hell of a good reason for a stink, at the time.

    36. Re:In other news... by reve_etrange · · Score: 1

      Regardless of your political views, you should be impressed by Cuba's health indicators at least.

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    37. Re:In other news... by reve_etrange · · Score: 4, Informative

      Oh yeah, all that horrible Cuban propaganda about their great health indicators...

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    38. Re:In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Ironic then that the US uses it's Cuban military base to imprison, torture and murder people without due process (and far far away from media eyes) as well ain't it!

    39. Re:In other news... by sourcerror · · Score: 1

      ER won't treat cancer patients or any chronic disease, also it's highly wasteful for the uninsured to rely on ER for general healthcare, prevention is much cheaper.

    40. Re:In other news... by dkleinsc · · Score: 3, Informative

      It always amazes me that so many people are willing to credulousness accept "statistics" like that from total propaganda.

      All available evidence suggests that your average Cuban is literate, doesn't lose children in infancy, and has access to medical care that international organizations routinely rate as highly effective and remarkably low-cost.

      For what it's worth, my mother took several trips to the more rural areas of Cuba in the early 1990's, during the worst of the post-Soviet depression they went through, and the people she met were universally literate, fairly healthy, and had enough to eat. They felt safe enough from the government that they could crack subtle jokes at Fidel Castro's expense in private homes (and yes, they had decently confortable private homes). The core of their health care system was the village doctor who lived just down the block and not only cared for everyone who lived there but also promoted public health and sanitation. The Americans on the trip were not followed around by government minders or anything like that. As part of the same program, several Cubans came to the US, and several other Americans made different trips to Cuba over a decade.

      The general impression I get: Florida is a paradise compared to Cuba. Cuba is a paradise compared to Haiti, Hondurus, and many other Latin American countries. GDP per capita tells a pretty clear story: US - $48,000 Cuba - $9,900 Haiti - $1,200 Hondurus - $4,400 (all numbers from CIA estimates)

      The other part of the story: The US government and the Cuban exiles in Miami have been demonizing Castro's government for over 50 years, so it's hardly surprising that most Americans have a very warped idea of what Cuba is actually like.

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    41. Re:In other news... by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 1

      Dude... 50 million without healthcare.

      50 million without health insurance, you mean?

      Hard as it is to believe, you can get healthcare without health insurance....

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    42. Re:In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now they have a better Literacy, infant mortality and healthcare than the US.

      Uhh... Bullshit? It always amazes me that so many people are willing to credulousness accept "statistics" like that from total propaganda. You probably also believed that the Soviet Union was a massive economic powerhouse for it's people in the 80s, right?

      Hint: People don't take leaky boats and swim across oceans to get elsewhere because where they live is just too wonderful for them to handle. Try talking to someone who's actually lived in Cuba and then escaped.

      When the Soviet Union collapsed they stopped buying Cuban sugar at subsidized prices. It was that massive economic crash that led to thousands of Cubans leaving crippling poverty. Their form of government doesn't work, they know that, that's why they are privatizing and moving to an open economy. The infant mortality, literacy and healthcare are absolutely of higher quality when compared to the US as a whole. I am not comparing Donald Trumps healthcare to Cuban healthcare. Universal Healthcare > healthcare for the wealthy only. Hell, one of Cuba's number one exports is fucking doctors.

      Look if you an escaped Cuban and not someone just claiming to be that's fine. Castro's generation actually remember what it was like before the revolution, and as bad as you can imagine Cuba ever getting...it will never compare to what it was like before the Revolution.

      All Cuba's current problems are going away, including the trade embargos...why you say? Why they have oil, lots of it, and you know how much the US loves its Oil. Bush tried to drum up some claims of biological weapons in 2002. It didn't stick because there were Canadian doctors participating in this so called weapons programmed. So if US can't fake evidence for a war they'll have to fake friendship and lift the embargo. The massive bitching the descendents of the Batista backers (aka Cubas 1%) are going to make are going to be drowned in oil. Funny fact, these same Batista backers kept all their plantation deeds and dream of days where they can walk into Cuban resorts, farms, refineries and hospitals and say "MINE".

    43. Re:In other news... by KiloByte · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's quite shocking to see how much worse the opinion Nazis get is worse than those of Soviets. The latter put a great deal of effort into propaganda, and had a chance to continue it for half a century after the former got defeated.

      Nazis were evil, sure, but if you look around, most wars in the history of mankind revolved around "our tribe is good, their is bad, they don't deserve to exist, their belongings/land are rightful loot that should be ours". Try reading the Bible, you have an outright order from the tribe's god to genocide every living being, including even livestock, from a list of neighbours a prophet didn't like. Even in 21th century we have Tutsi vs Hutu, and so on. I'd say there is only one reason to consider Nazis more evil than the rest: Germany was one of the most civilised countries at the time, so such barbarous actions are more shocking than when done by Tutsi or some such. Doing something "for the good of your people" has at least a good intent, even if it's severely misguided. Hitler wanted to give Germans power, to let them expand to lands occupied by "lesser races", protect them from "evil plotting Jews", purge the race from the weak, get rid of "traitors" to the nation, etc.

      On the other hand, Soviets had no good intentions whatsoever. Even before the revolution, "good of the working class" was an empty slogan. The actual source of their name "soviets", ie, workman councils, were immediately disbanded, and "dictatorship of the proletariat" was from the start a dictatorship of the Party. Unlike "Animal Farm", it was not a popular movement gone bad, it was planned to be bad.

      In Nazi Germany, if you were an ethnic German, physically and mentally hale, and not a dissident, you were ok as long as you obeyed orders. On the other hand, in the Soviet Union, the very working class that was supposed to be the main benefactors of the revolution were also those hit the hardest. You don't go on mass murders of people you intent to fight for.

      So even though there are no doubts Nazis were evil, Soviets and their offshots (Mao, Pol Pot, Kim) were a whole new class of evil that makes Hitler a mere naughty kindergarten kid in comparison.

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    44. Re:In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Nope. The cubans revolted. The nazi government was elected. Sure, the election was not entirely democratic - they were beating up political opponents. They started a fire in order to have 'emergency powers'. But it was no revolution.

    45. Re:In other news... by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Castro's revolution had its flaws but he never openly tortured or killed his fellow citizens

      No, he left that to Che Guevera.

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    46. Re:In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Emergency care that will force them into bankruptcy, yes. General health care? No, you are ignorant or lying on that account.

    47. Re:In other news... by rossz · · Score: 3

      Castro's revolution had its flaws but he never openly tortured or killed his fellow citizens

      That is flat out, 100% WRONG. One of my high school friends was from Cuba. Both his father and his uncle were tortured by the Castro regime because they didn't fight on the "right" side. They were lucky they weren't simply shot, but my friend's dad walked with a severe limp for the rest of his life. And Che was a murdering bastard who had a habit of shooting people he only suspected of not being loyal enough.

      Know what those Che tshirts are good for? It makes it easy to spot complete morons.

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    48. Re:In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And in the Middle East, developers are working furiously on the Islamic game "Battle of Ager Sanguinis"

    49. Re:In other news... by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 1

      Reminder: "Troll" is not a substitute for "I disagree".

      To the best of my knowledge, my comment was simply factual.

    50. Re:In other news... by fche · · Score: 1

      It's not so far-fetched. Dictatorship of the proletariat on one hand, dictatorship by the National Socialist party on the other hand.

    51. Re:In other news... by fche · · Score: 1

      Potemkin indicators.

    52. Re:In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If they worked for Batista, or benefited from his ill gotten gains, they were criminals. Send the fuckers back. They all vote republican anyway.

    53. Re:In other news... by fche · · Score: 1

      "torture", "murder" ? Citation needed.

    54. Re:In other news... by atriusofbricia · · Score: 1

      Regardless of your political views, you should be impressed by Cuba's health indicators at least.

      And if it is such a paradise why are people willing to jump on practically anything that floats to get the Florida?

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    55. Re:In other news... by the+gnat · · Score: 1

      Now they have a better Literacy, infant mortality and healthcare than the US. I would call that a pretty heroic tale.

      If Cuba is such a paradise, why did the government refuse to issue exit visas to its citizens for decades? Why did it even require exit visas in the first place, for that matter? Most governments don't use border controls to keep people in the country.

    56. Re:In other news... by the+gnat · · Score: 3, Interesting

      they do have a lower infant mortality rate and a higher literacy rate than the US.

      I see this statistic cited nearly every time the issue of Cuba comes up, but it's extremely deceptive. There are multiple reasons why the infant mortality rate for the US is higher, including a greater number of premature births, but one reason is that the statistics are calculated differently. In the US, where medical technology is very sophisticated (and very expensive, which is one reason why our health care system is so inefficient), many infants (usually premature) that would be considered stillborn in other countries can be resuscitated and kept on life support. Typically the survival rate isn't great anyway, unfortunately - but they are still recorded as "live births". So our mortality rate is effectively inflated compared to less advanced countries.

    57. Re:In other news... by reve_etrange · · Score: 1

      I dunno, maybe there is a positive correlation between high health indicators and high desire for ephemeral things, like freedom.

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    58. Re:In other news... by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      Here's a documentary from dissidents that discusses torture. If you read the news in Spanish, this kind of accusation comes up from time to time. Who do you believe, the dissidents or the establishment? It's not like we can examine their jails to make sure.

      It is allowed to think the Cubans have a lousy government, and simultaneously believe that the US should not invade them.

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    59. Re:In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If they were tortured it wasn't exactly because they were innocent bystanders. If you take sides on an armed conflict, expect something nasty to happen to you if you lose. As simple as that. But I agree with you, saying that the revolution never tortured or killed anyone is extremely wrong.

    60. Re:In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lol, flag-waving patriot. Stop the nationalist bs. Deal with the fact that the healthcare in Cuba is better for everybody, whereas in the US is extremely good as long as you have the cash/insurance. That aside, Cuba is a pretty crappy place to live in since the infrastructure of the country is very deteriorated, currency exchange controls, very low wages, shortages of basic products and stuff. But as far as healthcare and education, they actually got it right.

    61. Re:In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude... 50 million without healthcare.

      50 million without health insurance, you mean?

      Hard as it is to believe, you can get healthcare without health insurance....

      Ah, I suppose that would be the emergency-room-based healthcare plan, brilliant.

    62. Re:In other news... by dbIII · · Score: 1

      That too, but the initial stink was due to organised crime linked to political figures losing a lot of money and the communist angle was more of an excuse. That's history. I'm amazed you are questioning it, because some of the mobsters had pet Democrats in their pockets.

    63. Re:In other news... by bsd_usr · · Score: 1

      Castro's revolution had its flaws but he never openly tortured or killed his fellow citizens

      That is flat out, 100% WRONG. One of my high school friends was from Cuba. Both his father and his uncle were tortured by the Castro regime because they didn't fight on the "right" side. They were lucky they weren't simply shot, but my friend's dad walked with a severe limp for the rest of his life. And Che was a murdering bastard who had a habit of shooting people he only suspected of not being loyal enough.

      Know what those Che tshirts are good for? It makes it easy to spot complete morons.

      True effing that! Damn kids wearing Che shirts. Bunch of ignorant idiots. It's offensive.

    64. Re:In other news... by bsd_usr · · Score: 1

      You should ask your parents what exactly they did to deserve the public revolutionary trials. As them how many people they tortured or killed, or how many were killed because of their denouncing to a corrupt military dictatorship drunk on the blood of countless people.

      And don't be a fool, I visit Cuba regularly and have several friends over there, they even got me to "la cabaña", the place where the trials and executions took place. I even got the list of executions, and even while I disagree in principle to the summary trials, the numbers were quite lower than I expected based in the hype from the Miami crowd.

      As for a joke, supporting 50 years of embargo against your won people with the explicit goal to create hardship and unrest is not even funny.

      You've been to "La Cabaña"? Big deal. So have I. I went there with my cousins. Then even got me in at Cuban prices. LOL They told me the truth about the place. In hushed voices. Why? Because if someone overhead, he'd probably be in trouble. The "Cañonazo" was pretty interesting to watch.

      I'm not going to argue with you, because unless you're of Cuban descent then you just really won't understand. You probably never grew up hearing about how great things were before Castro. You didn't grow up hearing about the stories and romanticism of pre-Castro Cuba.

      Ask your friends what would happen if they stood out in the open and cursed Castro. They're probably wouldn't even think about it for fear of what could happen.

    65. Re:In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most brutal dictatorships came from 'revolutions' or 'populist uprisings'. Sad but true. The Nazis are included, as evil as they were. It's actually very rare for a revolution of the violent/force type to succeed in doing anything but creating an even more brutal hellhole than the one they rebelled against.

      The reason is that the people involved never decided to change their way of thinking from the old paradigm of forcing your will on others via violent force. In the end, all you are doing is just changing which groups of people will be oppressed and/or murdered. You throw out your right wing dictatorship who is persecuting leftists, and install a left wing dictatorship who is persecuting rightists. . . at least on paper, cause such systems actually oppress everyone, including their own sycophants (sometimes they oppress their own even more, though a bit more subtly and unofficially).

      That said: Right or Left doesn't matter, because pretty much all dictatorial governments are hyper socially-conservative. Fidel Castro ordered homosexuals rounded up and executed at one point. . . Hitler had the same idea.

    66. Re:In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Isn't killing of POWs a serious war crime?

    67. Re:In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In other words:

      In prison, you get free health care = Prison is a wonderful place.

    68. Re:In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Election at first, then a coup. . . Once they were elected they started purging and all the rest of what usually goes along with a violent brutal dictatorship. . . They were attempting a sneakier method at doing roughly the same things as what the Communists did. Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Mussolini. . . all the same, really. I fail to see how they were any different in effect. They took over the entire country, purged/persecuted/executed all those suspected of disagreeing with them, and turned themselves into cult-of-personality neo-Egyptian god-kings.

      Is there a difference between a left wing commie or a right wing nazi putting a gun to a civilian's head and shooting them into a mass grave for disagreeing with government policy? Nope. If you want that kind of government, North Korea might be something to your liking: Maybe they'll let you be a Concentration Camp guard, where you shoot women and children and get a bottle of whiskey as a reward.

    69. Re:In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, Hitler was a Socialist. That particular rivalry was just between National Socialism and International Socialism. It's kind of like the old rivalry between the Maoist Commies and the Soviets. I fail to see that much significant difference in Communist policy vs. Nazi policy. The only difference is mostly rhetorical. The Nazis were actually using rabid class warfare as much as the Communists were. Their excuses for murdering Jews was the stereotype of "the rich Jew capitalist exploiting the workers", which continues in the bile Neo-Nazis spew today. If you actually read old Nazi propaganda, that's what it said.

      Both systems murdered millions of innocent civilians, denied their populations any amount of freedom, had no tolerance for dissent or freedom of the press, purged any political office holders that did not openly worship every government policy without question, and sought to completely obliterate and 'remake' society according to some nightmarish false utopian fairy tale.

    70. Re:In other news... by Half-pint+HAL · · Score: 1

      The status of PoW is very murky in civil wars. Do you want criminals to be protected from execution simply on the grounds they were arrested during a war? The crimes these people were accused of commiting happened before the war on an ongoing basis. They were commiting repeated crimes against the citizens of Cuba, and they were tried for that.

      While you may argue that the trials were merely showtrials with a politically pre-determined outcome (I don't know enough on the issue to argue this one either way), these were at the very least superficially legitimate trials.

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    71. Re:In other news... by Half-pint+HAL · · Score: 1

      You probably never grew up hearing about how great things were before Castro. You didn't grow up hearing about the stories and romanticism of pre-Castro Cuba.

      What if we rebranded that as "pre-embargo Cuba"...? Can you be sure that the hardships faced in modern Cuba are the result of the leadership and not the outside world?

      And you're of Cuban descent -- big deal. Your family were presumably in the privileged class for whom things were undoubtedly better. You're not going to listen to anyone not of Cuban descent? Fine. But remember, just being "Cuban" doesn't mean you understand everything and everyone in Cuba. I'm sure things are bad, but you can hardly expect anyone to take you seriously if you talk about the "romanticism" of Cuba when most people didn't even have access to plumbed water.

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    72. Re:In other news... by Half-pint+HAL · · Score: 1

      ... and replaced it with another dictatorial, post-colonial government.

      Sorry, nope. A "post-colonial government" in this context refers to the sort of government where the colonial upper classes break free of the control of the colonial power in order to retain power within their group. As a more recent example of the transition from postcolonialism, consider Zimbabwe, where Robert Mugabe got in on the ticket of dismantling the post-colonial land ownership structure, where pretty much every acre of the country was owned by a minority of rich white people. His regime has been a total nightmare and has done even more damage to the country than the previous post-colonial setup, but that doesn't make him "post-colonial".

      My preferred adjective here would be "Stalinist", because it's not even communist -- just like Russia and China, it has ignored the notion of community control in favour of centralism. I'm also avoiding "soviet", because a soviet was a council, and centralist Stalinism restricted the soviets to a state of mere tokenism.

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    73. Re:In other news... by Half-pint+HAL · · Score: 1

      Ah, I suppose that would be the emergency-room-based healthcare plan, brilliant.

      What's your problem? It's the most efficient, effective and humane method of healthcare known to man! Leave it all till it gets chronic and then the tumor is so big that it's really easy to find, you see?

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    74. Re:In other news... by Half-pint+HAL · · Score: 1

      When the Soviet Union collapsed they stopped buying Cuban sugar at subsidized prices. It was that massive economic crash that led to thousands of Cubans leaving crippling poverty. Their form of government doesn't work, they know that, that's why they are privatizing and moving to an open economy.

      But do we know why it doesn't work? Remember that the USSR justified* their support as compensation for loss of trade due to the US embargo, and that with the fall of the Soviet Union, they went back to being artificially blocked from open trade. It is not possible to say beyond reasonable doubt that their form of government failed simply because of external intervention.

      * Note, I say "justified" -- I'm not saying it wasn't in reality a means to buy military presence in the area.

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    75. Re:In other news... by fche · · Score: 1

      The grandparent AC claimed the US was doing those things in Guantanamo.

    76. Re:In other news... by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      oh, poor reading on my part.

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    77. Re:In other news... by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 1

      "My preferred adjective here would be "Stalinist", because it's not even communist ..."

      I agree. That's why I wrote "wannabes". Nobody so far has implemented a true Communist government. They haven't even been good Socialists. They all get stuck at the "central government" part of Marx's theoretical "evolution" of society.

      And it's easy to see why: once in power, the central government simply doesn't want to give it up.

    78. Re:In other news... by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 1

      I should add: if, as Marx claimed, this represents "evolution" of society, I think it is pretty safe to say that in humanity's experience, Socialism is an evolutionary dead-end.

    79. Re:In other news... by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 1

      I'm not questioning it. I don't claim that's not real. But the militant partnering with Communist pretenders (because there has never been a real Communist nation in recorded history) is also true. The only question I see is: which reason was predominant?

    80. Re:In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure, believe the propaganda... cause everyone wants to move to the USA... of course.

    81. Re:In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also true of literacy. We educate and count everyone. The much of the rest of the world does not educate or count their special needs children.

    82. Re:In other news... by Sigg3.net · · Score: 1

      Health experts from all over the world, including the USA, have inspected Cuba's medical sector.
      I've visited 2 health clinics myself (though I'm not a doctor).

      Yes, they are that good, free for everyone and everywhere.
      Why? Because in Cuba education is king and every other person is a doctor.

      Not saying that the country doesn't have a lot of dark secrets, the health sector just isn't one of them. The US has more tropical diseases than Cuba. The #1 health threat to Cubans is the embargo.

      That aside, Cuba is an unfree totalitarian surveillance state.

    83. Re:In other news... by fche · · Score: 1

      NP, it happens!

    84. Re:In other news... by khallow · · Score: 1

      If they worked for Batista, or benefited from his ill gotten gains

      Even in 1980, a couple of decades later? For example, 125,000 people left Cuba in 1980 when Fidel Castro allowed exile for a brief time. That's long after any Batista allies would have been purged from Cuba.

    85. Re:In other news... by dbIII · · Score: 1

      It becomes blatantly obvious when you compare it with relations with other places that had similar governments.

    86. Re:In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fidel Castro allowed exile for a brief time...

      Yep, a good way to empty the prisons and dump the problem on the gringos.. And another way to fuck up Carter's campaign, just like the hostage deal that Reagan's crew arranged. It all smells like shit.

    87. Re:In other news... by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 1

      Soviets were not "immediately disbanded" - in fact, they ran the country well into 1920s. Also, the electoral regime established by Bolsheviks favored urban areas (and hence factory workers) over countryside (and hence peasants) by a factor of five, and those identified as bourgeois were stripped of the right to vote, so it was not your typical one man one vote democracy. But then that was the whole point of "dictatorship of the proletariat".

    88. Re:In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also true of literacy. We educate and count everyone.

      Then why would your rate not be 100%?

    89. Re:In other news... by Half-pint+HAL · · Score: 1

      But Marx's preconditions for the revolution were never actually met in any of the revolutions under the banner of socialism or communism (neither of which terms were Marx's anyway....)

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  2. Celebrating Mass Murderers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yeah Castro and his boy Che Che are real fucking heros. Che ran Castro's death camps and got off murdering people. HEROS!!

    1. Re:Celebrating Mass Murderers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This may surprise you, but actual history is distinct from freerepublic hyperbole.

      Well, technically they were called labor camps.

      But hyperbole? So we have a guy who fought for "freedom" and ended up being in power all his life. And passed that power to family members. I cannot say what it was like under Batista, but good grief! Castro couldn't have created a democratic system? He could have at the very least done a George Washington and been the first President. And then peacefully left office.

      It makes me really appreciate the Founders of the US. There were so many opportunities to turn this country into another Western Hemisphere dictatorship shithole and they didn't.

      Of course a democracy doesn't guarantee anything -see Mexico.

    2. Re:Celebrating Mass Murderers by thewolfkin · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Of course a democracy doesn't guarantee anything -see Merica.

      FTFY

      crikes look at how many "democracies" America has established against the will of the people that have turned ugly that's a far worse track record than Cuba. I mean Vietnam for crying out loud. Ho Chi Minh looked to the US for help breaking free of it's colonial status (like US/England) and then when they wanted to establish a govt of their own choosing .. war.

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    3. Re:Celebrating Mass Murderers by GrumpySteen · · Score: 0

      Well, technically they were called labor camps.

      That's because they forced people to work and weren't trying to commit wholesale slaughter, unlike the Nazis to whom they're being equated here.

      If the numbers on the Wikipedia page are to be believed, the death rate appears to have been lower than the current global mortality rate; 0.7% vs 0.9%. People in the labor camps were certainly treated harshly, but they weren't being slaughtered en masse.

    4. Re:Celebrating Mass Murderers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Nope, with open US hostility towards the Cuban revolution he didn't have a choice on the matter: it was fall to the soviet sphere of influence or cease to exist, as simple as that. And technically Cuba has a democratic system where every single official is elected by the general population in free elections. The problem is that after the local level, the representatives are the one postulating the candidates to the next level and the people can only confirm or reject the candidates, what in practice means that all the candidates get elected.

      Also Fidel didn't "passed power" to family members, Raul was vice-president when Fidel got ill and temporarily assumed the presidency of the country, then got elected twice with more than 90% of the votes. And face it, he was the right man for the position. I seriously doubt any of the other candidates would have the guts an political prowess to reform the worst of the Fidel era rules and he promised more radical changes in his second and last term. As for the opposition, better not even start on it. Is pathetically small and powerless and is mostly made of entertainers whose target audience is not their fellow Cuban citizens but the outside world (aka Yoani Sanchez) or discredited old farts for whom dissidence is a lucrative job, but either way they lack any cohesion or realistic plan to take Cuba anywhere. For them is always

      1. Democracy
      2. ???
      3. Profit!

    5. Re:Celebrating Mass Murderers by Lisandro · · Score: 1

      "Candidates"? Lovely. Too bad all candidates were from the official party. Who were the opposition back in 2008 again?

    6. Re:Celebrating Mass Murderers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry, but you are just showing your ignorance. There is no party requirement whatsoever to be an elected officer in Cuba, the only requirement is to be an eligible adult citizen (i.e., not mentally ill nor not serving prison) and get the popular vote.

    7. Re:Celebrating Mass Murderers by Lisandro · · Score: 1

      And you're deflecting my question. Again: how many non-party candidates did the 2008 election had?

    8. Re:Celebrating Mass Murderers by TarPitt · · Score: 2

      You should take advantage of our amazing free enterprise system and create a counter-game called "Free Market: Chile"

      I'm sure the thrilling scenes of political opponents being thrown from helicopters into the Pacific Ocean will take your breath away.

      All in the interests of defending freedom of course

      Show those Cubans what real freedom is all about

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    9. Re:Celebrating Mass Murderers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This may surprise you, but actual history is distinct from freerepublic hyperbole.

      Well, technically they were called labor camps.

      But hyperbole? So we have a guy who fought for "freedom" and ended up being in power all his life. And passed that power to family members. I cannot say what it was like under Batista, but good grief! Castro couldn't have created a democratic system? He could have at the very least done a George Washington and been the first President. And then peacefully left office.

      It makes me really appreciate the Founders of the US. There were so many opportunities to turn this country into another Western Hemisphere dictatorship shithole and they didn't.

      Of course a democracy doesn't guarantee anything -see Mexico.

      Remember, the whole time after the Revolution the US and the Batista backers were trying to get control again. The Bay of Pigs was really an army of purchased mercenaries invading Cuba on behalf of the Batista exiles. The same mercenaries would have raped, pillaged and plunder the whole country on behalf of their benefactors. Hell they tried to assassinate Castro in the most laughable ways. US has spend hundres of millions of dollars trying to get a foothold in Cuba over the years. But with Castro's iron hand it made it impossible. Faced with that kind of opposition can you imagine a democracy would survive this long? No it will be grandchildren that bring democracy to Cuba.

    10. Re:Celebrating Mass Murderers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Since we're talking about political realities, how many non-party (i.e. outside of the power duopoly) house representatives, senators and presidents does the US currently have? Anywhere enough to have real impact?

    11. Re:Celebrating Mass Murderers by fche · · Score: 1

      The number of political parties in Cuba is similar to the number of political parties in any other communist dictatorship ... one.

    12. Re:Celebrating Mass Murderers by Lisandro · · Score: 1

      No idea - i'm not an US citizen. Though i'm interested on how the lack of democratic choices anywhere else justify the mockery that are "elections" in Cuba.

    13. Re:Celebrating Mass Murderers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The "official" party is non-participant in the Cuban elections and is not allowed to campaign on it. I don't have the statistics, but taking in account that the PCC has less than 20% of the Cuban population, I expect that a sizable part of the candidates are not members of the Party.

      As for the opposition, thats a good question. They are a pathetic minority that the government has successfully discredited thoroughly thanks to US financing. Where they are? Well, they are within the 10% that didn't went to vote or casted an invalid ballot and currently the most prominent are touring the world for support. For what is hard to say, but it looks that is for themselves, given that their constituency apparently are not the Cubans in Cuba.

    14. Re:Celebrating Mass Murderers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Castro couldn't have created a democratic system?"

      You mean like a system with elections?

      Cuban parliamentary election, 2013
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_parliamentary_election,_2013

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_Cuba

      And no, in the end democracy is not about voting for a political party, it is about voting for policies.

    15. Re:Celebrating Mass Murderers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yup - and that's much worse than two parties that just pull the same shitty stunts..

    16. Re:Celebrating Mass Murderers by Lisandro · · Score: 1

      It is, actually. Much worse.

    17. Re:Celebrating Mass Murderers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Che and Fidel were murderous monsters on a scale with Mao and Stalin. They just had a lot fewer citizens to practice democide on. I highly recommend Humberto Fontoya's book on Fidel. He has first hand experience with the revolution. Watch the excellent movie 'Juan de la Morte' (Juan of the Dead) it is not only an excellent movie but it shows what Fidel has done to his island paradise. Stores are non-existent, no new paint in more than 50 years, everyone wears clothes that Americans donate to good will. Medicine is incredibly short supply because they have no economy and all hard currency from cigar sales goes to the ruling elite. It is the classic socialist equality on finds in any prison system.

      If you get any Cuban cigars do not put them in your humidor because they are full of tobacco weevils!

    18. Re:Celebrating Mass Murderers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sure the thrilling scenes of political opponents being thrown from helicopters into the Pacific Ocean will take your breath away.

      Remember to save the game before you do that. I forgot once. Ended up losing. Those Soviet capitalists are really useful. Well worth their price in awesome helicopter scenes.

    19. Re:Celebrating Mass Murderers by timq · · Score: 1

      It makes me really appreciate the Founders of the US. There were so many opportunities to turn this country into another Western Hemisphere dictatorship shithole and they didn't.

      The irony being that the USA turned a lot of other countries into Western Hemisphere dictatorship shitholes. For example, Cuba, before Castro and his cronies 'liberated' it.

    20. Re:Celebrating Mass Murderers by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 1

      We have a guy who took over a country that was tucked up worse than most of Caribbean, and actually made it livable for most of the population - more so than most of his (capitalistic and nominally democratic) neighbors. That doesn't make him a saint, but it does make him better than most other politicians who come to power in similar circumstances.

  3. They should've hired Rockstar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This could've been a great prequel to GTA: Vice City.

    1. Re:They should've hired Rockstar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nah. It is more of a prequel to BioShock Cuba. But instead of a sunk (or floating) city with old technology and an autocratic regime, it will be an island with old technology and an autocratic regime.

  4. Marco Rubio's parents by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I heard they were fighting against Castro and had to leave. Maybe a game piece for them?

  5. I... I kind of almost want to play this by sandytaru · · Score: 2

    Seems no different in premise than the Call of Duty games or any of the other war games that USians love to play. Too bad it appears to be a single player game and not an MMO - that would be rather awesome.

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  6. Dance Dance Revolution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dance Dance Revolution - Cuban style:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LkB8yqRb-k

    1. Re:Dance Dance Revolution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seth? Is that you?
      Well done you Stoopid Monkey!

  7. Game engine? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Shame. The summary doesn't even mention what game engine was used. And you call this news for nerds?

    1. Re:Game engine? by thewolfkin · · Score: 1

      Shame. The summary doesn't even mention what game engine was used. And you call this news for nerds?

      um.. can I get a +5 over here?

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    2. Re:Game engine? by Tastecicles · · Score: 1

      it was the one they used for Unreal 2003. >:]

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    3. Re:Game engine? by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      Well, when you see all those old cars they keep running, you have to figure they're probably using FORTRAN, COBOL, or maybe even LISP

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    4. Re:Game engine? by Tastecicles · · Score: 1

      oh, I figured on it being a ZX81 BASIC Frogger clone...

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    5. Re:Game engine? by davydagger · · Score: 1

      this.

      it does sound like an intresting video game premise, though. Lets face in, in American video games, far worst protagonists have been used. I would be intresting to see the graphics and the gameplay, and how the storyline is interpreted.(is it shear campy propaganda, or did they enhance it for media).

      The irony is that few of them have computers, and the handful of people who will get to play this will be regime loyalists.

    6. Re:Game engine? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unreal Engine 2? Not a bad choice. Runs decent on practically anything anyone have on their desktops.

    7. Re:Game engine? by RabidReindeer · · Score: 1

      oh, I figured on it being a ZX81 BASIC Frogger clone...

      Considering their reputation for running 1950's automobiles, I vote Autocoder. Or maybe FORTRAN.

    8. Re:Game engine? by mlc · · Score: 1
      According to Revista Tino :

      Para su producción se utiliza el Visual Studio 2005 y el lenguaje de programación Visual C++. Que aunque es de licencia propietario, para la construcción y para el manejo del motor de juego 3D, es el más efectivo. También se utiliza el lenguaje de script Simkin. El motor Génesis 3D y el kit de herramientas de Génesis 3D son utilizados para el diseño y comportamiento de la plataforma de juego, el MilkShape 3D 1.8.1 y el 3D Studios Max 9.0 se utilizan para el diseño y animaciones 3D, el Adobe Suite CSS 3 se emplea en el tratamiento gráfico 2D, el Sony Vegas 5.0, el Fruity Loops y el SoundForge son utilizados para el tratamiento de video y sonido.

      People without Spanish skills can probably just look at the capitalized words and get the idea.

  8. Screenshots by Paul+Slocum · · Score: 4, Informative

    This article has screenshots and more details about gameplay.

    1. Re:Screenshots by GameboyRMH · · Score: 2

      Graphics aren't terrible, somewhere between SWAT4 and Ghost Recon.

      So where can I download it?

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    2. Re:Screenshots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So where can I download it?

      Just came here to ask the same. I want a piece of that socialist development. See how FPS with Cuban characteristics works out.

  9. Medal of Honor: Cuba by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    But I bet Americans will be all sorts of pissed that somebody else has the nerve to celebrate their military history.

    1. Re:Medal of Honor: Cuba by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The game developers could create an extension pack called The Heart of Poisonous Ice Cream for foiling the hundreds of CIA assassination plots against Castro.

  10. Killers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hopefully they'll truthfully portray the "freedom fighters" as also being cold blooded murderers who tortured, raped and killed innocent people as well.

    That stinking murderer castro is one of them.

    1. Re:Killers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

      That's not a nice way to talk about americans. Just because they literally redefined the word torture doesn't mean they aren't nice people!

      That "stinking murderer" Castro is no worse than that "stinking murderer" Bush who you probably helped elect. Hell, you'd think for being a bloodthirsty killer, Castro would have plenty of company in your poor excuse for a country.

    2. Re:Killers by jodido · · Score: 3, Informative

      Name a single innocent person who was tortured, raped or killed by anyone associated with the Cuban revolution who wasn't punished severely for it. At least two Cuban soldiers in Angola were executed for raping an Angolan woman. Can your army say the same?

    3. Re:Killers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This may surprise you, but actual history is distinct from shrill freerepublic hyperbole.

    4. Re:Killers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There probably were people who were raped and then punished for it, but you only need to look at Cuba now to see it wasn't all roses. Things were bad before, things are bad now, which is typical of 95% of all revolutions, it is usually just a question of who it was bad for before and after.

    5. Re:Killers by BitZtream · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Every single cuban citizen who has to escape in a raft suffering 90 miles of sunburn while traveling a few miles per hour hoping you make it across the Gulf stream quickly so it doesn't carry you far enough into the Atlantic that no one ever finds you. The fact that people live there make the choice to ride a raft with THEIR KIDS in what is essentially their own personal death march should be enough to answer your question.

      I use common sense and the actions of the people there to draw my conclusion. You're still trying to argue which political side is right.

      10% of the countries population (roughly) has been so distraught that they elected a trip thats got less than a 1% chance of survival over staying and dealing with it.

      We punish our soldiers when we find them committing crimes you speak of. Its well known fact (from those who escape the country) that the Cuban army on the other hand do commit those crimes ... and you yourself give an example of them doing so.

      America has its own set of issues, but its hard to believe America and Cuba are even on the same planet, putting them in the same class just makes it clear that you have no concept of what you're talking about.

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    6. Re:Killers by jodido · · Score: 0

      "It is a well known fact"--perhaps you could provide a source? Then we'll see who knows what they're talking about. My point is that "well known facts" about Cuba in the US are 100 percent wrong. As to the rafters, they resorted to these desperate measures because the US failed to live up to its agreement to provide 20,000 visas a year to Cubans to come to the US. The US prefers rafters risking their lives to people arriving safely on airplanes, makes Cuba look worse.

    7. Re:Killers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm a physician in a New York City Emergency Room. There are plenty of Cubans here, and either Jodido is correct about the wonderful conditions in Cuba or these people are completely making up everything they tell me. Personally, I'll go with the stories of poor immigrants who have no reason to lie to a white Jewish doctor who has nothing to do with Cuba over the rantings of some random internet troll.

    8. Re:Killers by Half-pint+HAL · · Score: 1

      Hopefully they'll truthfully portray the "freedom fighters" as also being cold blooded murderers who tortured, raped and killed innocent people as well.

      That stinking murderer castro is one of them.

      What, you mean just like the enthralling Abu Ghraib stage in Call of Duty 4?

      Or the level in Ghost Recon 6 where you sneak in and kidnap an unarmed family in the middle of the night, then escort them on a plane to be tortured by a Middle Eastern dictator

      Or perhaps the stage at the end of Medal of Honor where you play a British soldier charged with rounding up the Cossacks an Leinz to put them on trucks to the Soviet gulags. In particular, perhaps you are referring to the part where one of your fellow soldiers comments that the Russians haven't sent enough trucks, and that chorus of rifle fire you here as you are marching out to the final waypoint....

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    9. Re:Killers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Visit sometime, it's really not a third world. Saying they're "not even on the same planet" is just a troll.

  11. Play to loose? by Required+Snark · · Score: 2
    Maybe there could be a following for this in the US. Right wingers could play to loose, and fulfill their fantasies about blotting Castro's Cuba out of history. Plus, if they can get it for free on the web, they could feel like they're ripping off Cuba.

    I wonder if it has DRM? Is it FOSS? What does that mean in a socialist state?

    Maybe the Cubans could give the game platform to Viet Nam, and they could come up with a plotline where you follow Ho Chi Min to his defeat of the imperialist US invaders. There's jungles and tropical climate in both situations, right.

    In China, they could have the Long March MMOG.

    On a somewhat more serious note, this is somewhat an exercise in jumping the shark. If you're at the point where you promote your history/ideology by turning it into a video game, it's ceased to be current experience, and has moved into the realm of cultural myths.

    In the US, the number of people who have combat experience is dwarfed by the the ranks of the FPS gamers. The real experience of war has been eclipsed by the glamorized painless video version. It's likely that the sanitized version has displaced reality in the minds of a lot of people. This can't be a good thing.

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    1. Re:Play to loose? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, historical games are no different to any other kind of media. War films are just as bad for sanitising and glorifying some truely horrific pieces of history.

    2. Re:Play to loose? by dbIII · · Score: 2

      Either way the clock here shows April 1 and some Slashdot contributiors are in this timezone.

      BRING BACK THE PONIES!

    3. Re:Play to loose? by Lothar+0 · · Score: 1

      America's Army was released free to the public. I would imagine this game would be as well, coming from the Ministry of Communications (which strangely does not have a website).

      Cuba itself just hosted on IP conference. Here's the program, and here's a snippet of it:

      Tuesday, March 19, 2013
      9:05 - 10:30
      Challenges of Protecting Intellectual Property on Social Networks (Software Industry)
      Rafael Ortín, Marquez, Henriquez, Ortin & Valedon,
      Slobodan Petosevic, Petosevic, Belgium

      This says nothing about Cuban intellectual property law, but it indicates that they at least host conferences where foreigners talk about how software IP is a thing that needs protecting. If Cuban programming takes off as a commercial industry, will there be penalties for copyright infringement? We'll probably know when those sort of cases start coming up in Cuban courts (if they ever do). Until then, I have no idea.

      FWIW, Ho died in 1969, six years before the fall of Saigon, but that might not stop some game designer from having a player assume his likeness in a similar game anyway.

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    4. Re:Play to loose? by smallfries · · Score: 1

      Obligitory grammar nitpick: surely you mean play too loose?

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    5. Re:Play to loose? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you're at the point where you promote your history/ideology by turning it into a video game, it's ceased to be current experience, and has moved into the realm of cultural myths.>

      wow wow wow, hold it right there, we weren't talking about COD!

    6. Re:Play to loose? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm going to replay the American Revolution.

      And let Britain wield ALL of it's imperial firepower,,,,

    7. Re:Play to loose? by TBBle · · Score: 1

      Maybe the Cubans could give the game platform to Viet Nam, and they could come up with a plotline where you follow Ho Chi Min to his defeat of the imperialist US invaders. There's jungles and tropical climate in both situations, right.

      Viet Nam's version shipped a year and a half ago: http://kotaku.com/5864287/defeat-the-french-in-vietnams-7554-military-shooter/

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  12. are the Tropico games banded there?? by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    are the Tropico games banded there??

    1. Re:are the Tropico games banded there?? by thewolfkin · · Score: 4, Insightful

      was Call of Duty banned there? I thought I recalled hearing about a mission where you assassinated Fidel Castro which I thought was rather ballsy considering Castro was alive at the time and not at war with the country. That'd be like the NAACP making a game where you assassinate former President Bush.

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    2. Re:are the Tropico games banded there?? by BitZtream · · Score: 1

      No have no idea what the NAACP is, do you?

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    3. Re:are the Tropico games banded there?? by reve_etrange · · Score: 1

      National Association for the Advancement of Colored Programmers?

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    4. Re:are the Tropico games banded there?? by AdamHaun · · Score: 2

      was Call of Duty banned there? I thought I recalled hearing about a mission where you assassinated Fidel Castro...

      That was the first mission in Call of Duty: Black Ops. You play a special forces team sent in with the failed Bay of Pigs invasion in 1961. The goal of the mission is to kill Castro, but you only end up killing a body double. (It's based on a real historical event, so they couldn't actually have him get killed.)

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  13. BS on Cuba by jodido · · Score: 1

    For all /. who think "know all about" Cuba: check this article out. From a highly-respected source (in its time), the Associated Press. Spoiler alert--there's not a single true thing in it. http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10200202785247365.1073741825.1084043443&type=1&l=7aa048e364

    1. Re:BS on Cuba by Tastecicles · · Score: 1

      about the only thing I know about Cuba was the little spat about the Soviets wanting to place land-based nukes there in the 1960s, which almost resulted in me not being born.

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    2. Re:BS on Cuba by jodido · · Score: 3, Informative

      Then you should also know why the missiles were there--which is that the US invaded Cuba in 1961, the invasion was crushed, but the US didn't give up and was planning to invade again in 1962 (Google "Operation Mongoose") this time with US troops instead of spoiled rich kids who thought the Cubans would welcome them back with open arms (they did "welcome" them back with arms but not the kind the country club types expected).

    3. Re:BS on Cuba by Eunuchswear · · Score: 1

      Then you should also know why the missiles were there--which is that the US invaded Cuba in 1961

      Well, from the point of view of the Cubans. From the Soviet side the reason was that the US had already installed missiles in Turkey.

      The confrontation ended on October 28, 1962, when Kennedy and United Nations Secretary-General U Thant reached an agreement with Khrushchev. Publicly, the Soviets would dismantle their offensive weapons in Cuba and return them to the Soviet Union, subject to United Nations verification, in exchange for a US public declaration and agreement never to invade Cuba. Secretly, the US also agreed that it would dismantle all US-built Jupiter IRBMs, armed with nuclear warheads, which were deployed in Turkey and Italy against the Soviet Union.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_missile_crisis

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    4. Re:BS on Cuba by kermidge · · Score: 1

      In part, yes viz. the 'clandestine' CIA-abetted effort. Has any evidence surfaced to support the idea that Soviet Union was aware of Mongoose, though? [I don't know; if they were, then that adds to their reasons, particularly for the tac nukes.] SU was also irked at US placing IRBMs in several NATO countries, particularly Turkey, so, gander and goose. From what I recall one of the benefits to SU from placing the missiles was to not only reassure Castro but also to be better able to keep him on a leash - they were never all that happy with the relationship apart from being a thorn to the US, because Cuba cost them a lot of money and aggravation for little return - modest port rights, a small amount of some commodities, and a minor vacation spot, IIRC.

      That's from memory; your post got me curious, so just read the Cuban missile crisis entry at Wikipedia. Their article is quite good. There were some things I either hadn't read before or had forgotten. (I had a selfish reason for interest on this because I lived in the D.C. area at the time, and some days it became difficult to concentrate on school.)

    5. Re:BS on Cuba by istartedi · · Score: 1

      It's a shame I can't read that since I block URLs for FaceBook's widget server. I forget exactly what domain, but it's not facebook.com. It's some other domain that serves widgets. The reason I do that is because the JavaScript in there was defective and would sometimes go into an infinite loop. I don't know if they ever fixed that, but my pages run more smoothly without these widgets loading. What's really crazy is that the user-facing aspect of it was simply a button. A button that needs to have active code even when you haven't pushed it? That's all kind of messed up.

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    6. Re:BS on Cuba by BitZtream · · Score: 1

      I know without clicking the link that I'd be a moron to believe anything in it. You posted a fucking facebook link. You're a moron if you believe anything posted to a facebook link is true in the first place.

      Could like to a trusted source, but I know its tainted already so the trusted source is irrelevant.

      Its like posting 'proof' that black people are (insert racial remark here) and then as your proof, quoting the KKK newsletter. It just makes you look stupid.

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    7. Re:BS on Cuba by jodido · · Score: 1

      Of course the Soviets knew about Mongoose. Everyone in Cuba did. The only people in the world who didn't were the US public, just like the Bay of Pigs.

    8. Re:BS on Cuba by kermidge · · Score: 1

      Oh, ok. I don't recall coming across that tidbit in print somewhere, before now, of course. I do understand that lots of stuff supposed to be secret may be widely known and that too much of it is classified because "it's supposed to be secret" even when it's not, and that keeping things from the American public is big-time CYA and to prevent embarrassment to some, so TPTB can keep on doing whatever they wish to. I just never knew Mongoose was so widely known and didn't want to make the automatic assumption.

  14. Hammer Time! by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 0

    FPS game recreation of the crucifixion of Christ. Can't touch this!

  15. Impressed / Curious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, I'm impressed and curious. Under embargo, and let's not forget severe economic hardship, Cuba should not have access to much or the latest technology. Though there does not appear to be a major shortage of Windows machines, where they can be afforded. None the less, Cuba doesn't have an environment where I would expect to find an advanced development community.

    Compared to the latest games in the U.S. this one looks somewhat crude, perhaps a few years/generations old. But, it hardly looks primitive or home grown. My suspicion is that it is based on a preexisting engine. Perhaps something that was released to the public like the Source, or more likely, Quake engines.

    Does anyone know what this is based on?

    1. Re:Impressed / Curious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cuba used to claim to have the best reverse engineering industry in the world, because the embargo meant that they had to break the licensing code on any commercial software they wanted to use.

    2. Re:Impressed / Curious by BitZtream · · Score: 0

      They are under embargo by the US. That doesn't mean the entire world. Getting things into because of the US embargo isn't an issue. The embargo is just something lots of people like to use as an excuse for why Cuba is such a shit hole under Castro(s).

      Last year, 188 members of the UN voted on a resolution condemning the US embargo against Cuba. The largest vote EVER in the UN.

      While the US pulls in SOME other nations to embargo cuba via treaties we have with other nations, there are countries in the world which aren't governed by those treaties and have absolutely no problem at all shipping whatever you want to Cuba ... Now the fact that the country is a shit hole due to its leaders means those people still probably won't get what you shipped them, but hey, lets not let facts get in the way.

      The fact of the matter is simple. The embargo against Cuba isn't really doing shit, we are but one country and the rest of the world doesn't share our opinion and doesn't follow are embargo ... yet Cuba is still a shit hole and people like you are too ignorant to realize why.

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    3. Re:Impressed / Curious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You mean that "shit hole", that has better literacy, child survival rate and health care than the US?

      Yeah, look at your own shit hole first.

  16. Glorious Revolution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The glorious Cuban revolution continues to this day. The propaganda ads and constant near daily "celebration" of minor individuals and events is somewhat bizarre for foreigners to see. That the Cuban government has "rewritten" history to suit their vision and goals is no surprise. Neither is the fact that most Cubans, having grown up under it and exposed to this propaganda for the past 50 years, whole heartedly believe it and embrace it with a nationalistic passion not unlike; 'meruca. Fuck yea!

    But, while the video game and the propaganda may bend the reality beyond any truth, the rebels did wind up forcing Batista out and remain firmly in power to this day. A single scraggly bearded PoS remains in charge even after 50 years. And, they love him!

    1. Re:Glorious Revolution by BitZtream · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You realize when you say something stupid like 'Meruca' you instantly lose everyone in your listener group except the other idiots such as yourself with an axe to grind?

      You lose any credence you had instantly and make it clear that you're not out about the truth or facts, you're out to promote your agenda.

      If you actually wanted to spread truth, you wouldn't try to drag your own personal agenda into it. You end up letting everyone around you know that your 'facts' aren't trustable.

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    2. Re:Glorious Revolution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, actually he loses only the Ameritards.

      And they don't count anyway, since they deliberately and willfully gave up their free will and individuality, and are just mere limbs of the opinion makers that fully and completely control them. They themselves, of course, think it's "their" views that they spread. Which is really funny and really sad at the same time, if you look at it from the outside.

      You are barely humans. And that is not my view. I wish you'd be great people. Hell, I still try to wake you up. But you just attack one for that. You *want* to be zombies in a walking daze like that. You actively *fight* for it. Like it's your god (aka your alter ego).

    3. Re:Glorious Revolution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      No kidding! If only they would stop wanting to return to their own crazy ways of individual liberty and freedom then they might listen to our progressive version of "freedom" where everybody must act and believe the same exact thing that was decided by a democratic majority to be the best for every single person around the world. Dictionaries be damned; mob rule is the true meaning "individuality"! I am sure you truly believe that mob rule by elitists would be a good thing, but at least I don't think you lesser of a human because of your naÃve beliefs

      You are barely humans. And that is not my view.

      Completely ignoring the fact that your exact argument was used by slave owners to justify their owning of human beings and by Nazis to kill Jews, you make an assertion and then say it is not your view and yet somehow fail to recognize yourself to be the moron you truly are.

      No, actually he loses only the Ameritards.

      [...] and anyone who still believes in intellectual honesty and reasoned debate, but go on and keep trying to bring people onto your boat with one-liners and catchy mottos while thinking you are anything but a tool. The sad part is that this populist tactic works quite well at attracting your fellow tools who are seemingly incapable of independent reasoning.

    4. Re:Glorious Revolution by StoneyMahoney · · Score: 1

      Oh, I dunno. There are Americans and there are Merucans. Every country has it's delusional zealots, denialists, self-imposed ignorants. America is not unique in that aspect, we have similar folk in England. (Or Ing-ger-lernd!!! as they like to pronounce it)

  17. This is news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why?

    Murderous Marxist Madmen come to power and State sponsored programmers make a video game.

    Our education system is sorely lacking if this is what we find newsworthy.

    1. Re:This is news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, better Murderous Reaganite Madmen crowing over Call of Duty 17.

  18. NES by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why wait for this when you can already experience the glorious revolution in NES format! (or the revolution in glorious NES format, if you prefer).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guerrilla_War_(video_game)

    Also thanks captcha for making me type in "pervert" to prove my identity. I think I have some tin foil here somewhere...

  19. Che Guevara was a virulent racist. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'm sure his fanboys will make excuses, but here are the words of Che Guevara:

    "The blacks, those magnificent examples of the African race who have maintained their racial purity thanks to their lack of an affinity with bathing, have seen their territory invaded by a new kind of slave: the Portuguese."

    "The black is indolent and a dreamer; spending his meager wage on frivolity or drink; the European has a tradition of work and saving, which has pursued him as far as this corner of America and drives him to advance himself, even independently of his own individual aspirations."

    1. Re:Che Guevara was a virulent racist. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds very Catholic, yes...

    2. Re:Che Guevara was a virulent racist. by orzetto · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Fanboi here. That's a passage from his younger diaries, when he had barely had contact with blacks and was certainly not politically defined as he would become later. He wrote that when he was about 24. Later, he wrote the following:

      Those who kill their own children and discriminate daily against them because of the color of their skin; those who let the murderers of blacks remain free, protecting them, and furthermore punishing the black population because they demand their legitimate rights as free men — how can those who do this consider themselves guardians of freedom?

      It might be noted he later actually fought and bled in Congo fighting against Mobutu along Congolese revolutionaries.

      That's not to say everything he did was right. He was a proponent of death penalty, something a man of his education (he was a doctor) should have abhorred already in the 60s. He heavily miscalculated the campaigns in Congo and Bolivia. But racist? No way.

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    3. Re:Che Guevara was a virulent racist. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That second quote about blacks; so true even today in America. Though that's a cultural issue and not one of skin color (blacks in Africa farm their asses off in some places).

    4. Re:Che Guevara was a virulent racist. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you were to look back at my early internet history, I'm sure you'd find something homophobic, xenophobic or otherwise bigoted. I'm a better person now than I was.

  20. Castro and Jesus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I read a book on Castro's revolution and what impressed me was the similarities between Castro and Jesus (complete with Granma as the legendary donkey). Both were certain they were destined for power but didn't know exactly what they'd do with it. Both countries were ripe for a revolution, only Castro took care of the tactical alliances with competing rebel groups while Jesus tried to go it alone. In the end, Jesus' followers managed to storm the temple and hold it for a few hours max before they had to run and were arrested after a brief melee.

    In Castro's regime you can see what Jesus' regime would have been like if his revolution had succeeded. We would have seen the apostles live the good life for decades and divvy up the spoils. In their dreams, they could have kept the Romans at bay just like Castro managed to keep the U.S. at bay (no pun intended).

    1. Re:Castro and Jesus by Half-pint+HAL · · Score: 1

      That's a bit much. If we want to compare Jesus with any 20th century figure, you want to look at Gandhi. If we believe any of the speeches attributed to Jesus in the Gospels were true (whether we believe the miracles or not) then they are the writings of a genuinely humble* pacifist. This would also explain why Jesus never hitched up with the various revolutionary groups -- his philosophy left no space for militancy.

      * Yes, I know that it seems weird to call someone who reportedly claimed to be the son of God "humble", but either he was the son of God, or he was mentally ill (and was a humble man who just happened to genuinely believe himself to be the son of God), or he didn't actually ever say that, and it was just made up after him by someone else. (All this still assumes that the New Testament is essentially based on one genuine historical figure.)

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  21. Just what we need, more historical revisionism by Python · · Score: 3, Informative

    Oh boy, I sure hope this game lets you blind fold and shoot people that didnt go along with the glorious Cuban revolution!

    http://www.therealcuba.com/page5.htm

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    1. Re:Just what we need, more historical revisionism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is that part of the game? Tie up a civilian and shoot them against the wall? Maybe it is how many tied up civilians you can shoot in a period of time...

    2. Re:Just what we need, more historical revisionism by Half-pint+HAL · · Score: 1

      I bet you're still waiting for a computer game where you get to sit in a helicopter and mow down unarmed Vietnamese rice farmers. Oh wait, would that be a double standard I hear?

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    3. Re:Just what we need, more historical revisionism by khallow · · Score: 1

      Oh wait, would that be a double standard I hear?

      For who? Certainly not for the Castros who seem to have no qualms about shooting people in cold blood.

    4. Re:Just what we need, more historical revisionism by Half-pint+HAL · · Score: 1

      For anyone and everyone. There can't have been a single army in history that wasn't involved in looting, indiscriminate killing, torture or rape. And no-one seems to complain that Call of Duty doesn't have an Abu Ghraib level....

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  22. Robot Chicken? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did anyone else read this and think about the Robot Chicken "counter revolution" skit? The one where some kid is playing a dancing game, and Fidel then rushes to the arcade to show off his own moves AND to give the kid the "gift" of lead?

  23. Bay of Pigs? by Aero77 · · Score: 1

    It should include the Bay of Pigs battle. You start off a counter-revolutionary stooge of the US, foolishly believing the US will support your invasion of Cuba. You land your boat, but are surprised by the brave soldiers of the revolution. You use the radio to call in air support. The cutscene plays showing the corrupt playboy american president ignoring your call in favor of spending time with his hollywood movie star girlfriend. You futilely fight on, but the end comes for you. If you survive long enough, you experience a jail cell slide for a few seconds, but regards of your outcome, then a suitably patriotic cutscene plays showing the deliriously happy people of cuba celebrating there new freedom.

    1. Re:Bay of Pigs? by Python · · Score: 1

      You forgot the quotes around freedom.

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  24. Simpsons did it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There already was a video game about the Cuban revolution. It was called "Guevara" and one player was Fidel Castro and the other was Che Guevara. Here in the US, they called it "Guerilla War" and changed the names of the main characters so people didn't notice that it was about overthrowing a US-backed regime. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guerilla_War_%28video_game%29 for more.

  25. A feather in Jupiter. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I blame McKinley.

  26. Why does Stalin get a pass? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes, I am somewhat surprised that the Nazis seem to get all the hate, when I imagine it's likely that Stalin killed more Jews overall than Hitler did (yes, I count the Holodomor, etc, as genocide). Why does Stalin get a lower "evil score" simply because he was an equal opportunity genocidist? Is it because Stalin had the "right side" choose him as an ally during the war, and we can't handle the cognitive dissonance of thinking about World War II as more complex than "right vs. wrong"?

    For the record, I think that all these leaders should be abhorred for the pain, suffering, and death they caused for millions: Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Pol Pot, etc—and their ideologies with them.

    1. Re:Why does Stalin get a pass? by tristes_tigres · · Score: 0

      > when I imagine it's likely that Stalin killed more Jews overall than Hitler did Boy, you do have wild imagination for sure.

  27. What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm the only guy that knows that SNK made a Cuban Revolution game for arcades called "Guevara" and was changed for outside Japan as "Guerrilla War" for not hurt US sales? :P http://www.arcade-museum.com/game_detail.php?game_id=8024