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Canadian Official Escorted From House For Others' Facebook Comments

Posted by Unknown on Wednesday April 17, 2013 @05:20AM from the computers-are-hard-ok dept.

New submitter zayyd writes "The CBC reports that publicly-elected Gerry Rogers, member of the Provincial Government for Newfoundland and Labrador, 'has been removed from the house of assembly for refusing to apologize for comments made by other users on a Facebook group of which she had been added to as a member.' Rogers was unwillingly added to a Facebook Group which included comments of death threats aimed at Premier Kathy Dunderdale from other users. From the article: 'Dunderdale said her government understands how Facebook groups work, and she said it is up to every MHA to monitor the comments posted on Facebook groups to which they belong.' Facebook's policies for Groups are somewhat clear, even if they don't actually answer the question of 'Can I prevent people from adding me to a new group?'"

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Oh Canada... by DoofusOfDeath · 2013-04-17 05:25 · Score: 5, Funny

You just seem more insane year after year. I wonder if there will be a day when Canadians gripe that they're on the verge of moving to the U.S.
1. Re:Oh Canada... by idontgno · 2013-04-17 05:33 · Score: 1, Funny
  
  Well played, Doofus. Very well done.
  The humorous irony of pointing out the mild cluelessness of our Great Northern Neighbor, while pointedly ignoring the huge festering carbuncle of batshit insanity known as Facebook, is deliciously effective.
  Unless you're serious. In that case, man, turn around and face the facepalm.
  
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2. Re:Oh Canada... by ADRA · 2013-04-17 05:46 · Score: 2
  
  Trust me, for every one stupid thing Canadians do, there are like 100,000 stupid thing that Floridians do. Exaggeration, Ad Hominem, blah blah this entire article means nothing.
  
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  Bye!
3. Re:Oh Canada... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 05:46 · Score: 0
  
  "I wonder if there will be a day when Canadians gripe that they're on the verge of moving to the U.S." ... I've been thinking about it since our Conservatives (Canada's Republicans) got a majority, and you elected Obama ...
4. Re:Oh Canada... by ShanghaiBill · 2013-04-17 05:47 · Score: 0
  
  I wonder if there will be a day when Canadians gripe that they're on the verge of moving to the U.S.
  Have you ever been to Canada? Americophiles are surprisingly common there, and "moving to America" is a goal of quite a few young Canadians with ambitions that go beyond free healthcare.
5. Re:Oh Canada... by Roger+W+Moore · 2013-04-17 05:50 · Score: 1
  
  We may be getting slightly more insane each year but that does not mean that we are closing the gap with the US.
6. Re:Oh Canada... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 05:53 · Score: 2, Informative
  
  And for each stupid Floridian thing, Quebec does 20 more. Check Bill 14 and any American reading it would assume Hitler just got elected. Remember, before he put his batshit insane plan into execution he "only" did somewhat offensive things. After reading Bill 14 you'll figure why not just put the English into camps, may as well...
7. Re:Oh Canada... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 05:54 · Score: 0
  
  I don't know why you're being so defensive. The criticism is legitimate. This isn't a dick measuring contest about who is more stupid. Canada does some pretty dumb shit and they deserve to be called out on it as much as the US and others do.
8. Re:Oh Canada... by Tridus · 2013-04-17 05:56 · Score: 1
  
  Gripe about it? Most of the entertainment industry dreams about it. You don't make it big being an entertainer in Canada.
  
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9. Re:Oh Canada... by Capt.DrumkenBum · 2013-04-17 05:57 · Score: 1
  
  I have met one in 45 years, my youngest sister. I hear she is now on her way back, with creditors chasing her for over $100K of unpaid medical bills.
  I am sure there are some others, but MOST Canadians wouldn't become Americans no matter what.
  
  Signed, A proud Canadian.
  
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  If I were God, wouldn't I protect my churches from acts of me?
10. Re:Oh Canada... by ebno-10db · 2013-04-17 06:00 · Score: 3, Funny
  
  The whole problem with overdone nationalism is that everybody wants to claim his country is worse than the other guy's.
11. Re:Oh Canada... by ebno-10db · 2013-04-17 06:02 · Score: 1
  
  Obama? You really ought to follow American politics more closely before you make a decision to move. This comes from someone on the left, not the right.
12. Re:Oh Canada... by Nocturnal+Deviant · 2013-04-17 06:03 · Score: 2, Insightful
  
  This guy is the stereotypical Canadian. They are closer to americophobes than americophiles, and the ironic thing there is absolutely no difference between Americans and Canadians besides the geographical location, yet when i lived there for 2 and a half years, the amount of times I heard Americans called stupid was exhorbitant.
  The media makes us Americans look stupid, and they lap it up just like...well pretty much every other country.
  
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13. Re:Oh Canada... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 06:08 · Score: 0
  
  I know three. One is a second cousin the others are family friends and are living quite happily in Tennessee.
  (Myself duel citizen US/Canada don't have any plans to move back to Canada anytime in the immediate future.)
14. Re:Oh Canada... by vux984 · 2013-04-17 06:10 · Score: 1
  
  Americophiles are surprisingly common there, and "moving to America" is a goal of quite a few young Canadians
  However the number that wish to actually become Americans is much smaller.
  with ambitions that go beyond free healthcare.
  Right. The assumption for most of them is that they will working for something that covers it, or will be paid well enough to easily afford the private insurance themselves and still be ahead of where they are now.
  The rest of them want to live in America to be near something specific ... the New York scene, Hollywood. If that infatuation pans out into a real career great... otherwise they outgrow it and move back home.
15. Re:Oh Canada... by TheSkepticalOptimist · 2013-04-17 06:11 · Score: 0
  
  It would take more than just insanity for me to want to move to the US, which is quickly becoming a 3rd world country. Pretty much either a new ice age or infestation of radioactive diseased zombie caribou would have me fleeing south, and even then I would have to give pause.
  Anyways Canada is about to enter a new era of Camelot now that Justin Trudeau is Liberal Leader. To American's that do not know, this like like the second coming of JFK.
  
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16. Re:Oh Canada... by Vanderhoth · 2013-04-17 06:15 · Score: 4, Insightful
  
  I think we get more American politics up here than Canadian. Harper makes sure no one talks to the press here so there's never anything to report unless it's something good concerning the conservatives or bad concerning the opposition. The liberals just elected a new head on Monday, the first I heard about it was from a conservative attack ad Monday night, and there's still two years until the next federal election.
  
  They sure don't waste anytime.
17. Re:Oh Canada... by benzapp · 2013-04-17 06:18 · Score: 0
  
  Mild cluelessness?
  Political correctness has turned into a witch hunt that makes the Spanish Inquisition seem preferable.
  There are many, many people being persecuted because they say or think things the state has deemed dangerous.
  Toronto, in particular, has become surreal. The iron fist necessary to maintain their multicultural paradise is at times shocking.
  Canada has ceased being a civilized country. It is now a totalitarian dictatorship, which means it simply won't last. Expect the country to break up in the years ahead.
  
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18. Re:Oh Canada... by Dixie_Flatline · 2013-04-17 06:42 · Score: 4, Insightful
  
  There are plenty of things different between Canadians and Americans, and I'm not just talking about toques and hockey.
  There are plenty of ways that we're the same, too, but I don't get into arguments with my Canadian friends about restricting firearms. There's a lot less discussion of whether or not abortion is something that should be left up to a woman or who should pay for healthcare. The set of 'Canadian values' is different, it's just not so different that when you see the average American talk to the average Canadian that these things come out.
  Americans almost certainly don't deserve the vitriol that they occasionally get from Canadians (except for your dickbag border guards--what's WITH those guys?) and when push comes to shove, we're there. On 9/11, diverted planes landed at Canadian airports, and Canadians drove out to offer accommodations for the passengers that were stuck there. I was still in University, and basically every class had an announcement that we should go give blood. And we did.
  I'm pretty sure Canadians don't think Americans are any dumber than AMERICANS do. We just have the benefit of distance.
19. Re:Oh Canada... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 06:43 · Score: 1, Informative
  
  Yeah, aboot that, Canada is in America. Canadians ARE Americans. Did you mean US Citizens? If you did then you should have said that.
20. Re:Oh Canada... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 06:48 · Score: 0
  
  Have you ever been to Canada? Americophiles are surprisingly common there
  I think you mistake politeness and hospitality for envy. Many, if not most, Canadians I know feel quite the opposite, and many that have gone to the US have simply been following the money. The US was once synonymous with success in many fields and those seeking to be at the top of their profession ended up there.
  You're like the annoying neighbour that mistakes our politeness for a welcome mat.
21. Re:Oh Canada... by realityimpaired · 2013-04-17 06:49 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  To be fair, it's Newfoundland. They're kind of like our version of Alabama. Sheep be very nervous on the rock...
  While I agree that our politicians need to pull their heads out of their asses on a whole host of issues, and that our current federal government has, in 8 years, very successfully destroyed the reputation that we spent 100 years building, we're hardly the only nation that's doing stupid shit with Facebook. And actually, a lot of what little privacy you actually have on Facebook is a result of our legislators...
22. Re:Oh Canada... by computererds · 2013-04-17 06:50 · Score: 1
  
  Well-- now I'm sad I spend all my mod points this morning. A personal +1 to you my friend.
23. Re:Oh Canada... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 06:51 · Score: 0
  
  And thank you for putting quotes around "free." Many of my fellow Canadians like to talk about our "awesome" free healthcare. It is anything but.
24. Re:Oh Canada... by computererds · 2013-04-17 06:57 · Score: 2
  
  I love these statements. Are these "happen to know" sources you can quote? Are those sources from anywhere other than Fox News opinion shows? (Remember, "news" is only on from 9a to 4p.)
  
  Being at a prestigious medical university hospital close to the boarder in the US, I know of a LOT of Canadians that have come here for elective or cosmetic surgery, but never anything life threatening or physically painful.
25. Re:Oh Canada... by AJWM · 2013-04-17 06:59 · Score: 1
  
  Justin Trudeau? Son of Pierre "War Measures Act" Trudeau?
  I gather you're too young to remember armed forces on the streets of Ottawa (among other places) in combat fatigues and carrying machine guns.
  Camelot, huh?
  "Well 'ow do you know 'e's a king?"
  "Because 'e doesn't have shit all over 'im."
  
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26. Re:Oh Canada... by ColdWetDog · 2013-04-17 07:01 · Score: 1
  
  Beyonce? Oh. Right you are.
  
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27. Re:Oh Canada... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 07:01 · Score: 0
  
  Even if his father was actually all that great ... Justin Trudeau is a pathetic phony, riding on his name and often referring to himself in the third person.
28. Re:Oh Canada... by evilad · 2013-04-17 07:02 · Score: 1
  
  Did you mean "exorbitant"?
29. Re:Oh Canada... by kenboldt · 2013-04-17 07:21 · Score: 2
  
  You know what, you are right, every single son in all of history has clearly been simply a carbon copy of their father.
30. Re:Oh Canada... by Jane+Q.+Public · 2013-04-17 07:22 · Score: 1
  
  "I love these statements. Are these "happen to know" sources you can quote?"
  No, because I am not going to give out hints about where I live.
  
  And get off this "Fox News" shit. I don't watch Fox News. By the way, not that it matters to me much, but you might want to know: a recent Pew study (about as reliable source as you can get) which was mentioned here on /. said MSNBC news was far worse than Fox for giving opinion as opposed to real news. And CNN wasn't a whole lot better. (Though CNN was better than Fox, and both were far better than MSNBC.)
  
  So if you really wanted to insult somebody, you should accuse them of watching MSNBC, not Fox news.
  
  "Being at a prestigious medical university hospital close to the boarder in the US"
  Ah... I see. So you claim your "anecdotes" are somehow (without any evidence) "better" than mine. Hahahahahaha.
  
  I admit that I did not offer any evidence, and I'm not going to, because I have no desire for people to know where I live. But your argument is the funniest thing I've seen in at least a few days.
31. Re:Oh Canada... by realityimpaired · 2013-04-17 07:23 · Score: 4, Informative
  
  No, I am not exaggerating. True, it's not always that bad. But in some cases it is.
  Years ago it was. If you need something for a life-threatening condition, you'll have it fairly quickly. Even if it's not a life-threatening condition, you'll still have it fairly quickly these days.
  I've had a handful of surgeries in my life, and have never needed to wait more than 4 months for it, without leaving the country. And that 4 month wait was because there's only one surgeon in the country who's licensed to perform that particular procedure (there's only 4 in the US who could do it, too, so don't start telling me that it'd have been faster in the US: it wouldn't). The reason some people have longer waitlists than that is that they want a specific doctor, or are not willing to travel beyond a specific hospital (even if there's another hospital in the same greater metropolitan area that does the same surgery). If you don't ask if there's another surgeon available with a shorter waitlist, you might think the timeline that they tell you is actually real.
  On rare occasions a minor surgery may be bumped because of a life threatening situation coming up (happened for my knee surgery), but I was put on a cancellation list and had the surgery a week later. The cancellation list is, itself, another part of the reason that some people think they can't get surgery: I had 1 day of notice for the knee surgery the 2nd time around... the hospital called me at 4pm on a Wednesday, and said "can you be here tomorrow at 8am?". If folks aren't willing to adjust their schedules like that, then they can leave with the perception that they can't get treatment, even though the treatment is available to them, they're just not willing to work with the system.
  In rural cases, it can be a bit worse, but there's still plenty of hospitals available if you're willing to travel a couple of hours. We have some *extremely* rural areas where you're 6 hours by helicopter away from the nearest hospital, but most of the population isn't anywhere near that distant.
32. Re:Oh Canada... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 07:24 · Score: 0
  
  Posting anon 'cause I moderated....
  How do could you have "*still* been in University" in 2001 and yet have a four digit ID?
33. Re:Oh Canada... by qzzpjs · 2013-04-17 07:30 · Score: 4, Insightful
  
  I agree that media might play into our Canadian perceptions of the U.S. in that we have the benefit of getting news from non-US sources. Granted they're mainly Canadian, but they're not so tied to Democrat or Republican parties so they are less biased in either direction and give use fuller coverage.
  We can see how people are unaware of facts on either side of debates because the news they watch is biased and never gives opposing view points or opposing facts. We can see how religion is trying to push itself into your government, laws, and education even though your constitution specifically tried to separate it. We see how you screw the poor in your country by denying minimum wages for people who end up having to work 20 hours a day just to survive. And we can see the stupidity of how much money America wastes on things like the military given that no other 15 countries in the world could possibly be a threat! And we see how you're constantly involving yourself in other countries politics in order to push your interests which causes them to dislike you.
  And now, your U.S. Senate just passed a bill preventing the signing of a NATO international gun control treaty because it could prevent U.S. citizens from selling weapons to your own enemies! The only other countries that didn't sign were Iran, N Korea, and Syria which makes you just as bad as them. How can we NOT consider that stupid??
  I'm not saying we don't have our own issues and have the same problems seeing them in our media, but it's usually internal to our country and doesn't affect the entire world.
34. Re:Oh Canada... by computererds · 2013-04-17 07:30 · Score: 1
  
  It would take more than just insanity for me to want to move to the US, which is quickly becoming a 3rd world country.
  I know this is hyperbole, but anyone who says this has never been to a 3rd world country.
  
  That being said, I am sure we will continue to lead the continent in net crazy exports for the foreseeable future, even only if it is a product of population difference (as a ratio of sane/crazy.) I would imagine you would be hard pressed to say you have less crazy per capita than the US-- in the plains provinces at a minimum.
  
  Then again, psychiatrists' fees are covered by provincial health plans, so I would be very hard pressed to say you are wrong...
35. Re:Oh Canada... by Em+Adespoton · 2013-04-17 07:32 · Score: 1
  
  To American's that do not know, this like like the second coming of JFK.
  More like "If JFK had had a son, this would be the equivalent of him becoming leader of the Democrats and running for President... sort of.*" More like that than two generations of Bushes, anyway.
  Don't forget what Justin's upbringing was like; he had a VERY different experience than his father. Helps that his mother was from BC and his father from Quebec though; he just needs to spend more time in the north and the maritimes to be about as close to the all-around Canadian as you can get.
  He's definitely likely to reshape Canadian politics or go down in flames.
  *Canadians don't elect a Prime Minister -- the elected representatives do that. Canadians elect someone to represent their constituency in government; this person is directly accountable to the people (usually 30-60,000 or so) who elected them -- and the Canadian Senate is more like the House of Lords in England than the US Senate.
36. Re:Oh Canada... by krislynn · 2013-04-17 07:36 · Score: 0
  
  Your statement proves how ignorant you truly are and unintelligent I might add. Where did you get your information? From South Park? You come across as obviously uneducated in more ways than one. Maybe you are the one that needs to pull your head out of your ass.
37. Re:Oh Canada... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 07:42 · Score: 0
  
  You just seem more insane year after year. I wonder if there will be a day when Canadians gripe that they're on the verge of moving to the U.S.
  Ok, but this is Newfoundland.
  For the benefit of non-Canadians, Newfoundlanders are often made fun of for being dim-witted, slow & stupid. Colloquially they are called Newfies.
  http://www.newfiejokes.net/
  http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=newfie
38. Re:Oh Canada... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 07:45 · Score: 0
  
  If you lived next door to you, you wouldn't like you either.
39. Re:Oh Canada... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 07:56 · Score: 0
  
  I've spent the last decade-and-a-half working in healthcare orgs in and arround Buffalo, NY. Canadians come over for shopping and fast elective surgeries. Want fast Lasik? Buffalo. Want treatment for real medical problems? Stay in Ontario.
40. Re:Oh Canada... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 08:02 · Score: 1
  
  There are people in Alabama that laugh at the stereo type and make fun of it with the rest. Then there are people who get irate and defend the State as if any jokes are a personal insult.
  Maybe take a lesson from their actions. First, most people taking comments personally and defending their State from stereotypical comments end up with ulcers and heart problems. Second, people attack them more because they take it personally. Usually they get asked things like "Howz sister-mah today buddy?" and such. It's much easier in life to not take things personally. Learn what the stereotypes are from and learn to laugh.
  I'm from Detroit, I know what it's like to be the butt of jokes.
41. Re:Oh Canada... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 08:05 · Score: 0
  
  The funny thing is all the best "Newfie" jokes are made by Newfoundlanders and used by the rest of Canada.
  They're simultaneously proud and able to laugh at themselves. The real stupid people are the ones who think they're better than others based on geographical location.
42. Re:Oh Canada... by AllenABQ · 2013-04-17 08:05 · Score: 2
  
  Just because some Canadians come to the US for healthcare doesn't mean they are footing the exorbitant costs that come with the US medical system out of their own pockets. There are provisions to cover treatment if there are shortages or delays in being able to get the same care in Canada and a qualifying US provider can offer it. This is especially true of near-the-border communities that are closer to more comprehensive US health-care facilities.
  
  So go back to your friends and get some specific data points. How many of them had non-elective procedures done in the US, and of those how many were covered by Canadian health insurance?
43. Re:Oh Canada... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 08:16 · Score: 0
  
  Obama is a moderate conservative at best.
44. Re: Oh Canada... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 08:18 · Score: 0
  
  Really? That's interesting. I've lived in Canada all my life and I've never met one of those.
  However, I have met a few Canadians who live in the U.S. and they're generally desperate to move back.
45. Re:Oh Canada... by michelcolman · 2013-04-17 08:19 · Score: 1
  
  Trust me, for every one stupid thing Canadians do, there are like 100,000 stupid thing that Floridians do. Exaggeration...
  You must be from Florida?
46. Re:Oh Canada... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 08:20 · Score: 0
  
  "How do could you have "*still* been in University" in 2001 and yet have a four digit ID?"
  Teachers are there a loooong time.
47. Re:Oh Canada... by ilsaloving · 2013-04-17 08:21 · Score: 2
  
  Our fair country Canada
  Is north of the USA
  Our Maritimes are lovely
  And our prairies give us hay
  You might think you Yankees
  Are better than us Canucks
  But we don't need no microchips
  Inside our hockey pucks
  We know that you've got disneyworld
  and you keep it very clean
  we dont have Bob Dole
  and we can drink when were 19
  we may watch your TV shows for hours and hours and hours
  We'll give you Alan Thicke
  But Shania Twain is ours
  We're proud to be Canadian
  We're awfully nice to strangers, our manners be our curse
  It's cool in many ways to be Canadian
  We won't say that we're better, it's just that we're less worse
  Your beer is not too tasty
  and your weather can't be beat
  We all fly south in the winter time
  to escape the snow and sleet
  We're pleased to say that
  we've enjoyed all your southern charms
  but we get sun burnt
  when we exercise the right to bear our arms
  We're proud to be Canadian
  We're awfully nice to strangers, our manners be our curse
  It's cool in many ways to be Canadian
  We won't say that we're better, it's just that we're less worse
  Alanis Morissette
  she is our latest pride and joy
  She used to sing about High school dances
  and chasing after boys
  But now she is fed up
  and about as angry as can be
  she's got one hand in her pocket
  and the other's on guard for thee
  We're proud to be Canadian(proud to be canadian)
  We're awfully nice to strangers,
  our manners be our curse (we're just too darned nice)
  It's cool in many ways to be Canadian
  We won't say that we're better (no), it's just that we're less worse (pick it up, pick it up)
  We're proud to be Canadian (we're proud to be Canadian)
  We're awfully nice to strangers, our manners be our curse(can i get the door for u ma'am)
  It's cool in many ways to be Canadian(its cool cause it's cold up here)
  We won't say that we're better (noooo), it's just that we're less worse
  we wont say that we're better, its just that we're less worse
48. Re:Oh Canada... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 08:22 · Score: 0
  
  Yeah, aboot that, Canada is in America. Canadians ARE Americans. Did you mean US Citizens? If you did then you should have said that.
  In English, the word "America" without further qualification refers to the USA.
49. Re:Oh Canada... by Samantha+Wright · 2013-04-17 08:32 · Score: 1
  
  As a Canadian, I can already tell where you live—in the prairies, across the border from Alberta or possibly Saskatchewan. A vast, empty wasteland full of farmers so used to oil subsidies that they have no compassion left for others. Try to pretend they're dislocated Texans instead of actual Canadians; the rest of our country already does.
  
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50. Re:Oh Canada... by Dixie_Flatline · 2013-04-17 08:43 · Score: 1
  
  My degree was a bit circuitous, and I did a year-long internship in the middle. That was actually my last semester there; I needed to finish of my minor, which I'd neglected while I was doing CS courses. My only class that day was a lab in Invertebrate Paleontology, as I recall. My TA had already given blood.
51. Re:Oh Canada... by matrim99 · 2013-04-17 08:45 · Score: 1
  
  So a Canadian who didn't want to pay her bills moved back to Canada, leaving the bill to be paid for by Americans. That's something to be proud of....
  
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52. Re:Oh Canada... by alexo · 2013-04-17 08:50 · Score: 1
  
  Yeah, aboot that, Canada is in America. Canadians ARE Americans. Did you mean US Citizens? If you did then you should have said that.
  How many Canadians you know that refer to themselves as "Americans"?
53. Re:Oh Canada... by JustOK · 2013-04-17 09:00 · Score: 1
  
  Rita MacNeil was one of our biggest stars.
  
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54. Re:Oh Canada... by JustOK · 2013-04-17 09:01 · Score: 1
  
  He tried referring to himself in fourth person, but that didn't work out too well.
  
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55. Re:Oh Canada... by sayfawa · 2013-04-17 09:28 · Score: 1
  
  That's ridiculous. If we were the same, you wouldn't have the death penalty.
  There would far less incarceration of your own citizens.
  You would have had gay marriage years ago.
  You wouldn't have started the war in Iraq.
  Your literacy rate would be higher.
  Your poverty rate would be lower.
  
  These differences didn't just fall out of the sky. These are differences that come about because of our conscious decisions on who and what we vote for. Which makes us different from you. Deal with it.
  
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56. Re:Oh Canada... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 09:32 · Score: 0
  
  no. yes. no
57. Re:Oh Canada... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 09:36 · Score: 1
  
  And you come across as the type of person who goes out of their way to be offended by others.
  
  Seriously, realityimpaired was not talking about you personally. So I have to question why what they said offended you so.
  
  It's like those women who got all upset over Theory of a Deadman's "The Bitch Came Back", accusing them of being misogynists. Now maybe they are misogynists, but that song doesn't prove it. TOAD wasn't saying all women are bitches, they were simply limiting themselves to talking about the ones that are. So unless what they are saying is coming across as a bunch of uncomfortable truths, you really shouldn't be getting upset.
58. Re:Oh Canada... by Archangel+Michael · 2013-04-17 09:44 · Score: 1
  
  Actually, free movement and all, if I were in my 20's living in Canada, I'd move to the US, because I would bet that I would not likely need medical care. I would work hard, pay lower taxes, and save the difference. THEN when I started to get older and sicker, move back to Canada for all the free healthcare I never had to pay for.
  And now, you know why Socialism doesn't work unless everyone is forced into it. And that is not freedom.
  
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59. Re:Oh Canada... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 09:44 · Score: 0
  
  As a Canadian, I can tell you that Harper's been pushing to turn Canada into the USA as hard as he fucking can since he started. We've been on a generally American slope for the past long time, but he's greasing the fucking slide as much as possible.
  So there's no point in moving to the USA. We'd just be treated like second-class citizens there anyway (in regards to jobs, or really anyone with a modicum of power over others), and since we defected, we'd be hated by Canada, the USA, AND the rest of the world BECAUSE we went to the USA.
  If we stay here, we're living in the 51st state anyway... but at least the rest of the world doesn't hate our guts. At least up here, we have significantly less fear of someone wanting to bomb the piss out of us.
60. Re:Oh Canada... by Capt.DrumkenBum · 2013-04-17 09:56 · Score: 4, Interesting
  
  I am a proud Canadian. I am not proud of my youngest sister. She is a total bitch and should pay her debts. This debt is as a result of her choices.
  But any system where someone can suffer a relatively minor injury, (Broken ribs, and a punctured lung.) and be financially crippled by it for the next 10 years is seriously fucked up! Yet American people somehow continue to defend this system. The Canadian system is not perfect, but it mostly works and doesn't bankrupt people.
  
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61. Re:Oh Canada... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 09:57 · Score: 1
  
  Yeah, no shit. I always considered myself to be fairly conservative and some surveys/quizzes put me closer to the Green Party than Obama is. Not a lot closer, mind you, but very strange considering I am actually a Republican.
62. Re:Oh Canada... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 10:04 · Score: 2, Insightful
  
  If you don't like being called stupid maybe you should stop electing people like Bush.
  I hate to break the difference to you but there's quite a bit of difference between Canadians and Americans. Canadians, for example, know that torture is wrong. Americans also know that torture is wrong -- the difference is that, faced with that information, Canadian's won't torture while Americans will re-define torture so that they can get away with it legally.
  It isn't just the media that's making you look stupid, it's you. For fuck's sake, you can't even decide whether or not a multiracial prom in Georgia is a good idea. You embarrass yourselves on the world stage regularly and yet you still demand and expect to be revered like gods. You're not. You're barely even human.
63. Re:Oh Canada... by vux984 · 2013-04-17 10:21 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  Actually, free movement and all, if I were in my 20's living in Canada, I'd move to the US,
  Not as easy to get a green card as you'd think. I know a couples who have transferred south husband was in embedded programming and the wife (a professional radiologist in Canada was unable to get a green card to work at all, never mind in her field, in the states for several years) -- they didn't expect it would be that tough. The pay raise and lower taxes didn't account for much since she couldn't work, his employer at least offered health care though, which was at least good.
  because I would bet that I would not likely need medical care.
  And that bet on medical care isn't all that great. A family member broke his leg skiing a few weeks ago, that'd be enough to royally screw him over stateside. Between surgery, a couple custom carbon fiber casts, physio, and going on 4+ months of not being able to work... yeah.
  You can bet you won't need medical care, but that's a bet you can lose. A broken leg is pretty minor and the cost is in the 10s of thousands... what if it had been a spinal injury instead?
  What happens if you lose the bet?
  THEN when I started to get older and sicker, move back to Canada for all the free healthcare I never had to pay for.
  Yep, that's sounds like planned abuse of the system to me.
  And now, you know why Socialism doesn't work unless everyone is forced into it.
  Canada should simply deny you re-entry to the country unless you are paid-up with respect to your accumulated share of health care costs. Citizenship isn't free. If you'd like to visit get a VISA and if you stay longer than that we'll deport you back where you came from.
  Honestly I think that's the direction things will eventually take, and there are already rumblings in that direction as people absolutely are out looking to abuse the system in unsustainable ways.
  And that is not freedom.
  Forcing socialized medicine is no more or less free then forcing socialized public works like police, fire, roads, pollution controls, parks, schools.
  I personally think the type of "freedom" you seem to long for is not as good as its cracked up to be. There's a few places in Africa and South America that should be free enough for you though... none of them places I'd want to live.
64. Re:Oh Canada... by realityimpaired · 2013-04-17 10:22 · Score: 0
  
  ... that whooshing sound was the joke, going over your head. In enlightened conversation, we're allowed to make facetious remarks like that without people going off half-cocked. While admittedly it's usually self-deprecating, I would have thought that jokes about sheep fucking wouldn't have needed a </sarcasm> tag to make it clear that it was a joke. At the very least, I thought the sudden juxtaposition of a sentence without any regard for proper grammar in a post that's otherwise grammatical would have tipped you off that it wasn't meant to be taken seriously....
  My inner sense of irony is rather amused that you're calling me ignorant and unintelligent, but that would be an ad hominem attack rather than, you know, a facetious remark.
65. Re:Oh Canada... by scot4875 · 2013-04-17 10:38 · Score: 1
  
  So if you really wanted to insult somebody, you should accuse them of watching MSNBC, not Fox news.
  Viewership numbers of Fox News vs. those of MSNBC? False equivalence much?
  Also, your "I know a lot of..." still isn't data. It's unsubstantiated bullshit. Put up real numbers or STFU.
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66. Re:Oh Canada... by kellymcdonald78 · 2013-04-17 11:14 · Score: 1
  
  More like if JFK had a son that never did anything except for ride on his dad's name. Like or hate Pierre Trudeau, he had an impressive background. A successfull lawyer, he studied at Harvard and London School of Economics. He helped lay the intellectual foundations of the quiet revolution in Quebec. As a politican he served as Minister of Justice and introduced sweeping legislation to decriminalise homosexuality, and legalise contraception. When he ran for leadership of the Liberal party, he didn't win until the 4th ballot with 51% of the vote. Justin on the other hand, while very charismatic, he is not his father. His background is a few years as a high school teacher and a few years as an opposition MP and yet he wins leadership of the party on the first ballot with 80% of the vote.
67. Re:Oh Canada... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 13:17 · Score: 0
  
  Not as easy to get a green card as you'd think. I know a couples who have transferred south husband was in embedded programming and the wife (a professional radiologist in Canada was unable to get a green card to work at all, never mind in her field, in the states for several years) -- they didn't expect it would be that tough.
  Well, your radiologist friend isn't that bright.
  Canadians are eligible for NAFTA or TN visas: http://canada.usembassy.gov/visas/doing-business-in-america/professions-covered-by-nafta.html
  Many, many professions are eligible, including physicians. Unlike many other types of US visas, TN visas are renewable, and issued on demand provided that you have a job offer and aren't a criminal.
  Other types of US visas require proof that no American can do the work, or require far more paperwork, waiting & hassle.
68. Re:Oh Canada... by Rossman · 2013-04-17 15:31 · Score: 1
  
  And? A lot of Americans come to Canada for medical care because it's cheaper to pay cash here than to pay their insurance co-pays, etc, in the US.
69. Re:Oh Canada... by Jane+Q.+Public · 2013-04-17 15:58 · Score: 1
  
  "As a Canadian, I can already tell where you liveâ"in the prairies, across the border from Alberta or possibly Saskatchewan."
  That's not an unreasonable guess.
70. Re:Oh Canada... by Jane+Q.+Public · 2013-04-17 16:01 · Score: 1
  
  "Viewership numbers of Fox News vs. those of MSNBC? False equivalence much?"
  Non-sequitur much?
  
  Nothing I stated about either of them has anything even remotely related to readership level. Not one iota.
  
  "Also, your "I know a lot of..." still isn't data."
  No shit, Sherlock. I wrote as much myself.
  
  "Put up real numbers or STFU."
  How about just FU.
71. Re:Oh Canada... by Jane+Q.+Public · 2013-04-17 16:04 · Score: 1
  
  I have no doubt of it.
72. Re:Oh Canada... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 16:48 · Score: 1
  
  "If you don't like being called stupid maybe you should stop electing people like Bush."
  And Canadians elected Harper. End of story. the rest of your post is not worth reading.
73. Re:Oh Canada... by Citizen+of+Earth · 2013-04-17 16:49 · Score: 1
  
  The reputation of being the best-managed advanced economy on Earth?
74. Re:Oh Canada... by QQBoss · 2013-04-17 17:00 · Score: 1
  
  There are plenty of things different between Canadians and Americans, and I'm not just talking about toques and hockey.
  How could you leave out the gourmet indulgence that is poutine from your list?
75. Re:Oh Canada... by mdw2 · 2013-04-17 17:29 · Score: 2
  
  It's because Americans all think of themselves as rich people who just aren't rich yet, and they sure as shit don't want to spend their when-i'm-rich money on taxes going to poor people.
  
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76. Re:Oh Canada... by TubeSteak · 2013-04-17 17:43 · Score: 1
  
  We can see how people are unaware of facts on either side of debates because the news they watch is biased and never gives opposing view points or opposing facts.
  
  Worse: The news gives both sides of a debate without telling you that one side is utterly full of shit.
  Because if they dared to draw conclusions, it would undermine their journalistic neutrality.
  
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77. Re:Oh Canada... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 18:25 · Score: 0
  
  living in africa i can second this, freedom is not always all it's cracked up to be... freedom to die of thrist in a desert is hardly something to aspire to
78. Re:Oh Canada... by loom_weaver · 2013-04-17 19:12 · Score: 1
  
  While TN status is easy to get for professionals, it's a very different beast from permanent residence aka green card.
  Lose your job on TN and back you go.
79. Re:Oh Canada... by gd2shoe · 2013-04-17 19:24 · Score: 1
  
  Oh, no. They undermine their "journalistic integrity" all the time. As long as they can pretend that they don't, they've got no problems there.
  Rather, they don't report things that are too difficult for them to understand. They no longer employ as many real journalists who do real research. This is, of course, assuming that there's nobody else in the media that they can parrot. It's called the "echo chamber" for a reason.
  
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80. Re:Oh Canada... by davester666 · 2013-04-17 20:07 · Score: 1
  
  Unfortunately, that's a bad example [or I've been whooshed], as Florida is packed to the gills with all the wuss Canadian's that prefer hurricanes over snow.
  
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81. Re:Oh Canada... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 22:29 · Score: 0
  
  I couldn't agree with you more. I am an American, but most American's seem to be just stupid at times. They think Country first and that is it. We don't try to put ourselves in someone else shoes and think our way is the right way. All i can do, is educate those around me and get them to see things as they really are, and it has work. I just wish we had people talking to one another nationwide. They key is not to put down the person you disagree with, but show him examples of things, and explain things in a way that could understand it.
  Because i think most American's a good people, and once they understand what is really going on, they almost always make the right call. But with our new media not giving us the full story, i can't blame some for not understand what is really going.
82. Re:Oh Canada... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-18 01:07 · Score: 0
  
  the US, champions of the free market, boasting that they're the 'best-managed advanced economy' .... wow, just wow, the disconnect of ideas in that is mindbogling
83. Re:Oh Canada... by ArmchairGeneral · 2013-04-18 02:44 · Score: 1
  
  As a fellow Canadian, I grow tired of the Cons endless media spin. Their attack ad focused on taking what was said into the absurd. While I'm not a Liberal supporter, not a Con supporter either mind you, but the facts behind the quotes are nowhere near what the Cons are trying to say they are. It's real lunacy. This trainwreck of a government really needs to go away.
84. Re:Oh Canada... by ArmchairGeneral · 2013-04-18 02:50 · Score: 1
  
  As a Canadian I don't believe that the US has more stupid people than any other country. I do believe the stupid attracts the media however, and where the US has a lot of it the overall message is less than complimentary. When you see shows like Honey-Boo-Boo being aired some people will try to tie the entire country to that level.
85. Re:Oh Canada... by Vanderhoth · 2013-04-18 03:17 · Score: 1
  
  Couldn't agree more. The quote they used in the attack on Justin Trudeau was actually taken from a CTV interview/documentary that aired, I think, more than 10 years ago. They basically cut out everything before and everything after the quote to make it look like that's what Justin Trudeau was saying, when in fact he was describing someone else's point of view. I honestly don't care either way who's in charge (Liberals, NDP, or Conservatives), but I expect them to be honest and upfront. This ad was extremely deceitful and underhanded, as all attack ads are. But more importantly what it says to me is the Cons are so fearful that JT will give the Liberals the upper hand in the next election. So much so that we're going to have to spend the next two years watching these ads so they can condition the public to hate him. The Cons think the ads worked for the last two Liberal leaders (Stéphane Dion and Michael Ignatieff), but the fact is, no one liked them anyway. They were just two more old white guys with the same beliefs as the last 100 old white guys to come through. I personally couldn't see them as being any better or worse than Harper.
86. Re:Oh Canada... by Em+Adespoton · 2013-04-18 06:28 · Score: 1
  
  If I hadn't already commented in this thread, you'd be marked Insightful.
  Other than the difference between the melting pot and the mosaic, THIS is really what separates American attitudes from Canadian attitudes.
  Of course, with a lot of entertainment talent coming from Canada, and Canada consuming a lot of the entertainment produced in the US, every year is showing fewer people in the US holding to the melting pot and "potentially rich" concepts, while for some reason, more and more Canadians are subscribing to those ideas.
  The institutions built on the ideals haven't shifted yet, though.
87. Re:Oh Canada... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-18 06:31 · Score: 0
  
  Oh bollywocks. Canadian media are as left-wing as American media is. Canadian media hasn't met a Conservative prime minister that it's ever liked.
  Canada is basically a Western European, Socialist country, which is why you have ridiculous free speech violations such as the article in question here. The thought that I am REQUIRED to criticize something SOMEONE ELSE said in order to be in the good graces of the government is completely intolerable to me.
  It probably stems from having a quarter of your population being stranded French colonialists.
88. Re:Oh Canada... by silentbrad · 2013-04-18 09:47 · Score: 1
  
  Unfortunately, Alberta's isn't that great. This article mentions having to move equipment from hospital to hospital in taxis. My dad, because of Redford's (and previous Premiers') health care cuts, has to spend his time in one hospital, and will have to be moved back and forth to another one on the other side of the city up to three times a week for the treatment he needs. The Conservatives keep pushing for a more privatized health care model - which means cutting funding for the nurses to staff the beds at the hospitals.
89. Re:Oh Canada... by vux984 · 2013-04-18 19:43 · Score: 1
  
  Well, your radiologist friend isn't that bright.
  Yeah, that must be it. I'm sure she has no idea what options were available, and that you were were able to find a solution based on 3 sentences I dashed off largely off the cuff. Bravo!
  Many, many professions are eligible, including physicians.
  Yes, but she's not a physician, does not have a doctorate, or even a university degree as I recall. She's got some college and certification in what she does, as well as several years experience... I guess more specifically she's a radiology technician - the person who operates the equipment and is trained in its operation, safety protocols, and can judge whether or not the resulting exam is good, but is not the person who is responsible for the analysis of the results and actually diagnoses the patient, -- she's not a physician.
  Didn't see what she does on the list. Not sure if medical lab tech qualifies or not.
  Moreover it was her husband that had the job offer not her; and to get TN status she needs a job offer, which is hard to do without status... she'd have to find someone that wants to do the work to "sponsor" her in. Plus I -think- she still would need to recertify in the US / State they were in etc.
  So no, its not a matter of just applying for a job, and you're in. Its easier than some ways in for sure, but still not easy.
  She got TD status due to her husband, but that's "unable to work".
90. Re:Oh Canada... by Nocturnal+Deviant · 2013-04-21 09:23 · Score: 1
  
  You also gave us that twat bieber.
  
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And we're glad of it. by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · 2013-04-17 05:25 · Score: 3, Funny

"Well!" think half the other MPs, "Thank god I don't even know how to use a computer."

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Ah.. by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 05:25 · Score: 0

Canada.
Guilty by association is the vogue now? by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 05:27 · Score: 0

Every now and then, we are starting to hear stories like this. Where has the notion of common sense gone to?
Article Not Clear by ZombieBraintrust · 2013-04-17 05:29 · Score: 2

Was she removed from the building? Or was she removed from her job? She is an elected official, was a trail needed to remove her? Or can the majority party remove any member with enough votes?
1. Re:Article Not Clear by Tridus · 2013-04-17 05:34 · Score: 4, Informative
  
  Building. It's a common form of enforcement of House rules.
  
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2. Re:Article Not Clear by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 05:35 · Score: 0
  
  If only it was this easy to get members of the U.S. House or Senate thrown out their jobs!
3. Re:Article Not Clear by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 05:39 · Score: 0
  
  Dang! I meant "... thrown out OF their jobs!"
4. Re:Article Not Clear by cdrudge · 2013-04-17 06:54 · Score: 1
  
  So she got to go home early and won't be docked pay. Oh no!
Facebook knows by c · 2013-04-17 05:30 · Score: 4, Insightful

No doubt there's something in her Facebook activity history indicating whether she joined herself or was added by someone else. That should be all the proof she needs.

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1. Re:Facebook knows by Derekloffin · 2013-04-17 05:40 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  Even if she is lying and did join herself (something I seriously doubt), this is NOT the way it should be handled. This is the equivalent of guilty until proven innocent for someone else's crime. It is disgraceful. Oh, and gives me yet another reason to never join facebook.
2. Re:Facebook knows by coldfarnorth · 2013-04-17 05:44 · Score: 4, Insightful
  
  Or seek elected office in Canada?
  
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3. Re:Facebook knows by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 06:03 · Score: 0
  
  Or LIVE in Canada, since you can end up in jail there for speaking.
4. Re:Facebook knows by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 06:03 · Score: 1
  
  FB allows others to add you to any group without your permission and without notifying you. You'd have to check your group associations every day (or multiple times a day) in order to prevent from being added to a group and being "guilty by FB association" until you've removed yourself from the group.
  FB really should prevent others from being able to add you to a group.
5. Re:Facebook knows by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 07:03 · Score: 0
  
  So a crafty politician could pay a administrator of a hate-group to add political opponents at opportune times.
6. Re:Facebook knows by Em+Adespoton · 2013-04-17 07:35 · Score: 1
  
  Remember that elections are coming up... that probably is what caused both sides of this event, plus the news it is gathering.
7. Re:Facebook knows by Em+Adespoton · 2013-04-17 07:39 · Score: 1
  
  Or LIVE in Canada, since you can end up in jail there for speaking.
  Just like anywhere else in the world -- except in Canada, there's no extraordinary rendition, nor secret arrests without trial.
  Really; name one country in the world where you can't end up in jail for speaking. If hate crimes don't get you, some other speaking law can.
  If you want to go after the court system, you'd be better to go after people being arrested and held in pretrial facilities with no hope of them ever going to trial; THAT is something that is happening and is causing issues on both the "in jail" and "not in jail" side (since if you reach the maximum pretrial holding time, you're released).
8. Re:Facebook knows by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 07:50 · Score: 0
  
  I don't believe it requires the admin of the group. Anyone who is a member of the group can add you to the group.
9. Re:Facebook knows by michelcolman · 2013-04-17 08:26 · Score: 1
  
  All she needs to do is let someone add all the other members of parliament to the same group, then demand that House Rules be enforced on them too. Actually, instead of just this one group, there's probably hundreds of objectionable groups you could add them to.
  If they don't have FaceBook accounts, just make new accounts in their names. Surely they are responsible if someone made a FaceBook account in their name and then added them to the group?
10. Re:Facebook knows by TangoMargarine · 2013-04-17 10:22 · Score: 1
  
  When the hell did this happen and how can I opt out of any random group admin skullfucking my account?
  
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11. Re:Facebook knows by Qzukk · 2013-04-17 15:07 · Score: 1
  
  FB will get around to taking care of it once Zuckerberg gets added to NAMBLA.
  
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12. Re:Facebook knows by tbannist · 2013-04-18 00:54 · Score: 1
  
  She refused to denounce threats against the Premier, so she was sent home early for the day... with pay. Canada, she is a harsh mistress.
  
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13. Re:Facebook knows by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-18 01:53 · Score: 0
  
  as the computer said in wargames: "the only winning move is not to play"
That doesn't seem like a good system by PhamNguyen · 2013-04-17 05:32 · Score: 5, Insightful

She was removed for "contempt", for refusing to apologize. This seems like a misuse of that kind of procedure. Contempt should be for, for example, swearing at another politician in the chambers. Being able to remove elected politicians on such a slim pretext is very dangerous to democracy.
1. Re:That doesn't seem like a good system by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 06:04 · Score: 0
  
  Unparliamentary language in action: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YD-xxoQwOo4
2. Re:That doesn't seem like a good system by hypergreatthing · 2013-04-17 06:32 · Score: 1
  
  So....
  I think i'll have Dunderdale added to every hate group i can think of on FB. Should be entertaining.
3. Re:That doesn't seem like a good system by Tridus · 2013-04-17 07:16 · Score: 1
  
  Oh, and for not leaving the group. She's still a member, she wants to "review its purpose" before leaving.
  Someone actually added against their will would probably just leave.
  
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4. Re:That doesn't seem like a good system by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 17:42 · Score: 0
  
  I have no idea how everyone's first thought on hearing this wasn't "oh. exploitable." ...But here i am 3/4 or the way down the page and this is the first time i'm seeing it.
5. Re:That doesn't seem like a good system by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 17:46 · Score: 1
  
  Maybe she doesn't like having demands thrust on her about things she doesn't really understand by people who she knows also don't understand them? Maybe she couldn't leave the group while in parliament anyway, having no access to facebook at the time?
  Don't go deciding what is and isn't normal based on what you think probably should happen.
Justice Minister Darin King by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 05:33 · Score: 1

"What kind of message is that sending to the people of the province, to our children in the province, when we talk about bullying and harassment and intimidation?" said King.

Get a grip.

Rogers ... also said she was "appalled" that the house of assembly had been suspended over the matter.

As should everyone in her province and the rest of the country.

Dunderdale said her government understands how Facebook groups work, and she said it is up to every MHA to monitor the comments posted on Facebook groups to which they belong.
Good luck with that.
And here I thought we had a monopoly on stupid politicians here in the States.
1. Re:Justice Minister Darin King by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 06:01 · Score: 0
  
  Get a grip.
  Politicians can use outside groups to intimidate opponents. There was a time when I would have thought this absurd in a nation like Canada, but the degree of hate the left is indulging today makes it plausible to me. Anyhow, reminding these people they need take care not to be associated with criminality isn't a bad thing.
2. Re:Justice Minister Darin King by AJWM · 2013-04-17 07:02 · Score: 2
  
  And here I thought we had a monopoly on stupid politicians here in the States.
  Alas, "stupid politician" is a redundancy the world over.
  
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3. Re:Justice Minister Darin King by Em+Adespoton · 2013-04-17 07:42 · Score: 1
  
  And here I thought we had a monopoly on stupid politicians here in the States.
  Politicians always go stupid at election time -- which is what this is really about. Welcome to the election ramp-up period (it starts this week in many places in Canada).
Proper form of apology by Attila+Dimedici · 2013-04-17 05:33 · Score: 5, Insightful

The proper form that the apology should have taken is this, "I am sorry that anyone was offended because someone added me to a Facebook Group that included tasteless comments, comments that may constitute illegal threats of violence, made by someone else. I do not condone such language."

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1. Re:Proper form of apology by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 05:49 · Score: 0
  
  Proper form of apology would be no apology.
2. Re:Proper form of apology by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 06:03 · Score: 0
  
  Two ways to apologize. If the person is witty enough, they can give a good tongue lashing with a sarcastic apology. In this case, the apology should be given to the official from at least two parties. The one removing them from the building and another from Facebook. They had better give a straight response, or they should lose more than their words to the official.
3. Re:Proper form of apology by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 07:40 · Score: 3, Funny
  
  I absolutely never ever apologize for something I did not do or for something that is not my fault.
  But then again, I am not Canadian.
4. Re:Proper form of apology by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 15:58 · Score: 0
  
  She did:
  
  "I was added to this group without my knowledge, without permission, and by somebody that I do not know," said Rogers.
  Rogers added that she is totally opposed to any kind of violence or threats, but she also said she was "appalled" that the house of assembly had been suspended over the matter.
5. Re:Proper form of apology by rohan972 · 2013-04-17 19:52 · Score: 1
  
  I absolutely never ever apologize for something I did not do or for something that is not my fault. But then again, I am not Canadian.
  or a married male, apparently.
  
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guilty by association... by schlachter · 2013-04-17 05:33 · Score: 3, Insightful

I guess if they want to burn you in politics, they will find a way...no matter how ass backwards.

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1. Re:guilty by association... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 05:59 · Score: 0
  
  welcome to facesuck
The obvious solution: by LihTox · 2013-04-17 05:34 · Score: 5, Funny

Add Kathy Dunderdale and her allies to as many unseemly Facebook groups as possible.
1. Re:The obvious solution: by pla · 2013-04-17 05:42 · Score: 4, Funny
  
  Add Kathy Dunderdale and her allies to as many unseemly Facebook groups as possible.
  
  Already starting, this should get amusing fast.
  
  Ms. Dunderdale, you've made it clear that "it is up to every MHA to monitor the comments posted on Facebook groups to which they belong" - So why haven't you denounced your fellow members of such hate groups as "Mothers Against Sober Driving", "Nazi Party of Canada", and "The Vatican" yet?
2. Re:The obvious solution: by Darinbob · 2013-04-17 06:21 · Score: 2
  
  I'm not a facebook user. Can you really add someone to any group you want without their permission, and yet you are simultaneously require permission to friend someone? Who would create such a broken system?
3. Re:The obvious solution: by DNS-and-BIND · 2013-04-17 06:23 · Score: 1, Offtopic
  
  Ooh, did you just make a casual comparison where you said that Catholics are the same as Nazis? You din't do that!
  Godwin's Law: "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1." Once such a comparison is made, the thread is finished and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever debate was in progress.
  Burn...
  
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4. Re:The obvious solution: by MurukeshM · 2013-04-17 07:00 · Score: 1
  
  Who knows, the group named 'The Vatican' (which one I dunno, since groups can have the same name) might in fact be a hate group named deliberately to confuse?
5. Re:The obvious solution: by MurukeshM · 2013-04-17 07:00 · Score: 1
  
  It is true. But the assumption is that those whom you friend might be sensible people. And sometimes it leads to serendipity.
6. Re:The obvious solution: by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 07:05 · Score: 0
  
  "If you aren't paying for it you are the product"
  Basically, groups are for things to be used for marketing, which pays for facebook.
7. Re:The obvious solution: by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 07:06 · Score: 0
  
  I believe only friends can add you to groups that they are in. Politicians friend random people. I think she is using the wrong type of account.
8. Re:The obvious solution: by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 07:10 · Score: 0
  
  Ooh, did you just make a casual comparison where you said that Catholics are the same as Nazis? You din't do that!
  In what way? If you mean by misery and death caused in a prejudicial, self-serving manner then the Nazi party wasn't around near long enough to compete with the damage done in the name of Catholicism. Check your history. Under their influence the "non believers" have not fared well, nor have many of the "believers". Especially if labeled a heathen, druid, witch, heretic, etc, etc. Hey, at least many of the surviving "heathens" finally obtained partial "immunity", though not from persecution or prosecution in religious kangaroo courts.
  Gee, wonder if this will get condemned to the Flamebait of Hell?
  Or other Holier Then Thou responses...
9. Re:The obvious solution: by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 07:11 · Score: 0
  
  Who would create such a broken system?
  A sophomore stoner with the sense to cash out as soon as humanly possible. (whether that sense was his own or borrowed, I cannot say)
10. Re:The obvious solution: by Tridus · 2013-04-17 07:15 · Score: 1
  
  If you have a normal account, people you friend can do so, yes.
  Public figures that want to friend everyone in sight shouldn't have normal accounts. They have another account type for that purpose, where you can't do it. I can't for example add Burger King to the "Beef is Murder" group.
  Besides which, the politician in question is now saying she won't leave until she "reviews its purpose", which doesn't sound like someone terribly upset about being added.
  
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11. Re:The obvious solution: by IndustrialComplex · 2013-04-17 07:41 · Score: 1
  
  The longer Godwin's law exists, the probability that its definition will be twisted to imply that someone 'wins or loses' a debate approaches 1.
  
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12. Re:The obvious solution: by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 07:55 · Score: 0
  
  As already answered... yes your friends can add you.
  But here is the funny thing. At first (for a long time), you could change the name of the group and it would NOT alert members.
  I think someone created a pro-Jewish group, then invited a lot of members, then changed the name to some Nazi group. :D (the laughing is about how FB thought that was a good idea)...
13. Re:The obvious solution: by dywolf · 2013-04-17 08:04 · Score: 1
  
  bad troll is still troll
  
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14. Re:The obvious solution: by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 08:20 · Score: 0
  
  As the length of any internet discussion increases, the probability that references to Godwin or Godwin's Law will be made approaches one. Furthermore, as the length of any internet discussion increases the probability that self-referential comments (regarding reference probability as a function of length of internet discussions) are made approaches one.
15. Re:The obvious solution: by michelcolman · 2013-04-17 08:32 · Score: 2
  
  A hate group that deliberately confuses people? Sounds like the Vatican allright.
16. Re:The obvious solution: by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 08:50 · Score: 0
  
  Look on the bright side. The Vatican could have been compared to rustlers, cut throats, murderers, bounty hunters, desperados, mugs, pugs, thugs, nitwits, halfwits, dimwits, vipers, snipers, con men, Indian agents, Mexican bandits, muggers, buggerers, bushwhackers, hornswogglers, horse thieves, bull dykes, train robbers, bank robbers, ass-kickers, shit-kickers... and Methodists.
17. Re:The obvious solution: by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 10:04 · Score: 0
  
  Once such a comparison is made, the thread is finished and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever debate was in progress.
  The person who automatically loses the debate is the one who erroneously invokes the nonexistent "automatically loses the debate" clause of Godwin's Law.
18. Re:The obvious solution: by TangoMargarine · 2013-04-17 10:25 · Score: 1
  
  Because none of us have heard of Godwin's Law before...
  
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19. Re:The obvious solution: by rtb61 · 2013-04-17 13:05 · Score: 1
  
  It is all about forced regular monitoring of your Facebook account. Facebook are attempting to force a series of communication issues and friend and relative relations in such a way as to force you to regularly check you account, regularly being as often as possible, to order to prevent harm to real world relationships. Each access equals advertising dollars. So drop Facebook and escape the purposeful built psychopath designed trap. They really are a pack of shit heads.
  
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20. Re:The obvious solution: by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 15:09 · Score: 0
  
  Ooh, did you just make a casual comparison where you said that Catholics are the same as Nazis? You din't do that!
  Obviously they should have joined her to NAMBLA... but that would be redundant.
21. Re:The obvious solution: by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 17:50 · Score: 0
  
  Remember, remember, eternal september.
22. Re:The obvious solution: by Gideon+Fubar · 2013-04-17 17:50 · Score: 1
  
  Well said sir. Pity too few will understand.
  
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In Canada by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 05:35 · Score: 4, Funny

Apologizing is serious business.
1. Re:In Canada by ArcadeMan · 2013-04-17 05:38 · Score: 4, Funny
  
  And we apologize for that, too.
  
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2. Re:In Canada by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 11:15 · Score: 0
  
  I'm sorry to hear that.
3. Re:In Canada by treeves · 2013-04-17 11:25 · Score: 1
  
  We would like to sincerely apologize for those persons making the last apology. Those responsible have been sacked.
  Mind you, moose bites can be pretty nasty...
  
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4. Re:In Canada by ArcadeMan · 2013-04-17 12:57 · Score: 1
  
  Wrong country, treeves.
  
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Meanwhlie, nobody in Canada cares by Tridus · 2013-04-17 05:42 · Score: 5, Informative

Speaking as a Canadian... yawn. This is not getting much attention in Canada. It's just a couple of parties in a provincial legislature finding something new to bicker about. The same sort of thing happened last week in New Brunswick over who called someone a "witch" first, so they could determine who had to retract it (they had to go back to video of the session to answer that one). This one just happens to involve Facebook, and so it's sexy to some media.
What happened is entirely routine. Someone was involved in something that goes against the decorum of the legislature, someone else complained. They wouldn't apologize, so they were tossed out of the building for the day. They leave the FB group and the whole thing goes away. Almost nobody outside the legislature gives a damn, except to point out that it's not a terribly professional or productive environment if this is taking up significant time.
If the same thing had happened only not involving Facebook, the story would not be posted here. Politics is absurd on either side of the border, only people outside Canada don't see the local variety of "absurd" very often. Today you get to.

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1. Re:Meanwhlie, nobody in Canada cares by Freshly+Exhumed · 2013-04-17 06:02 · Score: 1
  
  Agreed, not much in the Canadian news about it. If she had dumped folders of murderpr0n onto /b/ then perhaps a "removal" might have been appropriate.
  
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2. Re:Meanwhlie, nobody in Canada cares by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 06:12 · Score: 0
  
  Almost nobody outside the legislature gives a damn
  Actually, the reason people hear give a damn is people here have been complaining about Facebook's policy where people can add you to a group without your permission and there's absolutely nothing you can do about it. That's stupid and wrong and that's why people are bugged.
3. Re:Meanwhlie, nobody in Canada cares by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 07:41 · Score: 0
  
  Actually she didn't leave the group or apologize and I'm proud of her for it.
  She's standing up to bullying and as such I hope the people of this province stand behind her.
4. Re:Meanwhlie, nobody in Canada cares by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-18 06:42 · Score: 0
  
  That's stupid and wrong
  
  If you're referring to the (utter lack of) proper controls around Facebook accounts, you're absolutely correct.
  If you're referring to Facebook itself, you're absolutely correct.
And yet.. by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 05:56 · Score: 4, Interesting

..nobody had been removed for the outright lies and slander of the various political attack ads that have been running in Canada. Apparently you can only be removed for something you didn't do or say.
This just in! by Jawnn · 2013-04-17 06:03 · Score: 1

Politicians fail to understand technology!
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Nothing to see hear. Move along, now...
I found a new hobby! by caspy7 · 2013-04-17 06:05 · Score: 1

Creating Nazi/Anarchist/pro-baby torture groups on Facebook and adding public officials to them.
Wee!
#sorryimnotsorry by Overzeetop · 2013-04-17 06:05 · Score: 1

I think there's already a standard hashtag for this.

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Facebook does it again by LeadSongDog · 2013-04-17 06:27 · Score: 1

... it's antisocial media at its worst: screwing up the lives of people whether they use it or not.

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Please don't do this. by 140Mandak262Jamuna · 2013-04-17 06:36 · Score: 1, Funny

Please do not add Dunderdale into every vile racist, misogynistic, gambling websites. Though it would teach her a valuable lesson on what is controllable and what is not in the internet, such thing could technically be illegal.

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1. Re:Please don't do this. by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 07:50 · Score: 0
  
  such thing could technically be illegal.
  When you make overbroad pronouncements, you should probably predicate that with the jurisdiction you have in mind. Because I'm sure you can find at least one place that Facebook operates in which the law doesn't give a metric rat's ass about lulz-inviting notorious and infamous public figures to disturbing and embarrassing Facebook groups.
  Or maybe you should remember your "IANAL" disclaimer next time.
2. Re:Please don't do this. by 140Mandak262Jamuna · 2013-04-17 09:43 · Score: 2
  
  I am very glad at least you took me seriously. There are folk out there who might mistake my posting as a thinly veiled suggestion to add Dunderdale to all kinds of facebook groups. But your posting shows that I was seen to be very serious. Thanks buddy
  
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Holding people responsible has not worked. by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 06:40 · Score: 0

Holding others responsible works much better. Some people just don't care, but they care when many others make them care. This is a good thing. Even the cretins in the military figured this out decades ago when they started holding other people in the same platoon responsible for the actions of a single idiot. Laws in the smarter areas have been this way for years, but even in conservative/religious/ignorant areas are even starting to come around.
A great example is where a friend I went to high school with was convicted for murder for shooting someone even though he has never even fired a gun before. He was with a friend that was committing armed robbery, and his friend killed someone. The guy that didn't kill anyone was correctly convicted of murder. Every armed robbery in our town since then has been done by a lone gun owner because of the effectiveness of holding people responsible for the actions of others. When you punish, admittedly unfairly, someone of the actions of others, they will improve the actions of others. Maybe it isn't quite far, but it makes for a better world.
1. Re:Holding people responsible has not worked. by jabelli · 2013-04-17 07:41 · Score: 1
  
  However, this is more like charging someone with armed robbery just because they were in the store at the same time it was robbed. Anyone can walk into a store you're in and rob it, just like anyone can add you to their Facebook group and act like an asshole.
2. Re:Holding people responsible has not worked. by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 07:58 · Score: 1
  
  Probably not. When he said "He was with a friend that was committing armed robbery..." he probably means that his friend was participating in the robbery, but wasn't carrying a gun. This has been the standard for centuries in many countries. The guy driving a getaway car is considered as guilty as the guy pulling the trigger. Likewise, if they get into a shootout with the cops and a bystander is killed by a shot from a cop's gun, the robbers are charged with murder, not the cop. It was their actions, together, that lead to someone being killed.
Like a Boss! by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 06:43 · Score: 0

"Rogers said later Tuesday that, in the interests of legitimate free speech, she won't leave the group until she has had a chance to review its purpose."
Read more: http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/n-l-premier-kathy-dunderdale-says-she-was-threatened-online-1.1241215#ixzz2QkPT7V6E"
Framed on Facebook by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 06:56 · Score: 0

More fitting headline would be: "Dunderdale Frames Roger with Facebook to Avoid Reviewing Budget Fiasco."
Queue Passive Aggressive FB Apology... by DarthVain · 2013-04-17 07:00 · Score: 4, Funny

"I'm sorry that Kathy Dunderdale, the Premier of Newfoundland and Labrador, does not understand how basic technology such as social media works. I am also sorry that her office makes knee jerk decisions based on bad information and do not take the time to validate facts before making unwarranted demands. I am sorry that Newfoundland and Labrador has such an inept government, though I am pleased that they were able to solve all the other pressing issues and problems before proceeding on this most important issue."
1. Re:Queue Passive Aggressive FB Apology... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 15:17 · Score: 0
  
  In the UK Equalities Minister Lynn Featherstone of the Liberal-Democrats which is in a coalition government with the Conservatives is still a member of the Liberal-Democrats against coalition with the Conservatives facebook group.
Oh, Dunderdale... by Runefox · 2013-04-17 07:14 · Score: 3, Informative

Living in Newfoundland myself, I've been hearing non-stop about her exploits as premier lately. It seems she's bat-shit crazy - That is, moreso than the rest of us. Among some of the other things she's tried to do have been to seal public spending records to make it impossible to see what the province is doing with its money, slashing education budgets, aggressive politics, compulsive lying and just generally being a slimeball.
Her predecessor (from the same political party - the provincial equivalent to the Conservative party) fought tooth and nail against the Harper government, even going so far as to recommend voting against him, but she regularly rolls out the red carpet and kisses ass whenever the prime minister and his cronies are around. It's obvious that like most of our premiers, she only wants to get in good with the federal government so that she can move up to a position there, and really has no other concerns than that. Her tactics are almost identical to the Harper government, to boot.
Sad thing is, this keeps happening because people here vote based on their voting history, not their actual ideals or which party would do the best job.

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1. Re:Oh, Dunderdale... by mkiwi · 2013-04-17 10:24 · Score: 1
  
  Sad thing is, this keeps happening because people here vote based on their voting history, not their actual ideals or which party would do the best job.
  That's kind of the way it works in most places.
2. Re:Oh, Dunderdale... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 13:40 · Score: 1
  
  I somewhat disagree. An example would be BC or ontario which has constantly flipped between NDP and liberals or liberals and conservatives. In BC especially, the NDP were hated in the late 90s due to scandal, and the liberals are now hated for the same reasons. Hated as in, the liberals will most likely get 1-10 seats. However in 2001, it was the ndp who pulled in only 2 seats.
  This does not even take into count the bc conservative party (similar to american tea party), which $diety only knows how many seats they will get *shudder*.
  So I guess you could say, (and people do), that BC never elects anyone. The voters primary objective is to vote the previous administration out.
Everybody is Awesome by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 07:21 · Score: 0

I see a lot of who want to be who on here, all I want to say is I am a proud Newfoundlander with friends from all over the world who I would be willing to take a bullet for or face zombie hordes with. I have awesome American (USA) friends, and awesome Canadian friends. I also know some douchebag Canadians and some douchebag Americans. I have traveled across Canada and some of the States and have seen many awesome fun things, but I always love coming home to the rock (nick name for Newfoundland).
Pot meet kettle by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 07:52 · Score: 0

I find it amusing that the current government talks of bullying and intimidation and are attacking Gerry Rogers over comments she didn't even make.
Meanwhile their former leader Danny Williams actually said similar comments personally and even threatened the deputy mayor of St. John's with physical assault but was never held accountable. It makes me wonder if the doublethink ever gives some of them a headache.
Eastern Health 'should be shot' over cancer test handling:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/story/2009/04/06/cancer-count-eastern.html
Threats of assault(3rd paragraph from the bottom):
http://www.macleans.ca/canada/national/article.jsp?content=20041220_95276_95276
lots of possibilities by Chirs · 2013-04-17 08:04 · Score: 1

He's either a grad student, took a long time to get his degree, got more than one degree, started his degree later in life, or got his /. account really young.
Heck, I only finished school in 2000 and I've got a 5-digit ID.
Facebook is simply unacceptable by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 09:14 · Score: 0

'Can I prevent people from adding me to a new group?'
If the answer is anything other than an unqualified yes, then Facebook is fatally flawed and no reasonable person should ever use it.
Imagine having a Facebook account and logging in one day to find that someone had added you as a member of NAMBLA, KKK, and 100s of other groups that are all abhorrent to you. Your good name would be instantly ruined.
Even if your name is ruined error, it's still ruined. The stakes are too high. Facebook's inability to forcefully answer this question "absolutely yes" is yet another reason why Facebook is simply unacceptable for use.
Well... the solution is then simple... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 09:54 · Score: 0

Someone just need to add all members of the house of assembly to the same group and then, declare that the house is dissolved because it can't meet again (all members are forbidden to enter the building by the same ruling).
Or the ruling only applies to some of the members?
LOL by Anonymous Coward · 2013-04-17 10:59 · Score: 0

"It's disgraceful. They should be shot over there"
-Newfoundland and Labrador Premier Danny Williams 2009
Americophobes? by mevets · 2013-04-17 14:30 · Score: 1

Misamericist is a closer butchery of English (or proper Merkin if you prefer). The fear only applies to their insane worship of violence...
The media is but a dim reflection; in this case, dimmer.
Another reason why I don't do Fecesbook by knorthern+knight · 2013-04-18 10:42 · Score: 1

>> Can I prevent people from adding me to a new group?'
> If the answer is anything other than an unqualified yes, then Facebook
> is fatally flawed and no reasonable person should ever use it.
No, you cannot prevent yourself from being added to groups. One of Zuckerbergs's friends was so pissed off at this, that he created a NAMBLA group and added Zuck. See http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2010/10/07/mark-zuckerberg-joins-the-north-american-man-boy-love-association-and-other-adventures-in-facebook-groups/
> Blogger Michael Arrington seems to have already performed a helpful
> proof-of-concept by adding Mark Zuckerberg to a group supposedly
> representing NAMBLA, the North American Man-Boy Love Association.
But wait... there's more more...
> Zuckerbergâ(TM)s addition to the group is broadcast to all of his friends,
> as shown in the image above.
That's right. Not only can be added to groups you don't like, but each addition is broadcast to everyone on your friends list. Imagine the following scenario...
* gay university student hides sexual orientation from parents
* joins the university "Queer Chorus" (yes, that's what they called themselves)
* the president of the "Queer Chorus" adds them to the "Queer Chorus" Facebook group
* this addition *IS BROADCAST TO EVERYBODY ON THE PERSON'S FRIENDS LIST*
* since parents usually demand to be on their kids friends list, they were recipients of the broadcast message of their child being added to the group
See http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444165804578008740578200224.html

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