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Canadian Official Escorted From House For Others' Facebook Comments
New submitter zayyd writes "The CBC reports that publicly-elected Gerry Rogers, member of the Provincial Government for Newfoundland and Labrador, 'has been removed from the house of assembly for refusing to apologize for comments made by other users on a Facebook group of which she had been added to as a member.' Rogers was unwillingly added to a Facebook Group which included comments of death threats aimed at Premier Kathy Dunderdale from other users. From the article: 'Dunderdale said her government understands how Facebook groups work, and she said it is up to every MHA to monitor the comments posted on Facebook groups to which they belong.' Facebook's policies for Groups are somewhat clear, even if they don't actually answer the question of 'Can I prevent people from adding me to a new group?'"
A corrupt slashdot luser has pentrated the moderation system to downmod all my posts while impersonating me.
Nearly 230++ times that I know of @ this point for all of March/April 2013 so far, & others here have told you to stop - take the hint, lunatic (leave slashdot)...
Sorry folks - but whoever the nutjob is that's attempting to impersonate me, & upset the rest of you as well, has SERIOUS mental issues, no questions asked! I must've gotten the better of him + seriously "gotten his goat" in doing so in a technical debate & his "geek angst" @ losing to me has him doing the:
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A.) $10,000 challenges, ala (where the imposter actually TRACKED + LISTED the # of times he's done this no less, & where I get the 180 or so times I noted above) -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3585795&cid=43285307
&/or
B.) Reposting OLD + possibly altered models - (this I haven't checked on as to altering the veracity of the info. being changed) of posts of mine from the past here
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(Albeit massively repeatedly thru all threads on /. this March/April 2013 nearly in its entirety thusfar).
* Personally, I'm surprised the moderation staff here hasn't just "blocked out" his network range yet honestly!
(They know it's NOT the same as my own as well, especially after THIS post of mine, which they CAN see the IP range I am coming out of to compare with the ac spamming troll doing the above...).
APK
P.S.=> Again/Stressing it: NO guys - it is NOT me doing it, as I wouldn't waste that much time on such trivial b.s. like a kid might...
Plus, I only post where hosts file usage is on topic or appropriate for a solution & certainly NOT IN EVERY POST ON SLASHDOT (like the nutcase trying to "impersonate me" is doing for nearly all of March/April now, & 230++ times that I know of @ least)... apk
P.S.=> here is CORRECT host file information just to piss off the insane lunatic troll:
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21++ ADVANTAGES OF CUSTOM HOSTS FILES (how/what/when/where/why):
Over AdBlock & DNS Servers ALONE 4 Security, Speed, Reliability, & Anonymity (to an extent vs. DNSBL's + DNS request logs).
1.) HOSTS files are useable for all these purposes because they are present on all Operating Systems that have a BSD based IP stack (even ANDROID) and do adblocking for ANY webbrowser, email program, etc. (any webbound program). A truly "multi-platform" UNIVERSAL solution for added speed, security, reliability, & even anonymity to an extent (vs. DNS request logs + DNSBL's you feel are unjust hosts get you past/around).
2.) Adblock blocks ads? Well, not anymore & certainly not as well by default, apparently, lol - see below:
Adblock Plus To Offer 'Acceptable Ads' Option
http://news.slashdot.org/story/11/12/12/2213233/adblock-plus-to-offer-acceptable-ads-option )
AND, in only browsers & their subprogram families (ala email like Thunderbird for FireFox/Mozilla products (use same gecko & xulrunner engines)), but not all, or, all independent email clients, like Outlook, Outlook Express, OR Window "LIVE" mail (for example(s)) - there's many more like EUDORA & others I've used over time that AdBlock just DOES NOT COVER... period.
Disclaimer: Opera now also has an AdBlock addon (now that Opera has addons above widgets), but I am not certain the same people make it as they do for FF or Chrome etc..
3.) Adblock doesn't protect email programs external to FF (non-mozilla/gecko engine based) family based wares, So AdBlock doesn't protect email programs like Outlook, Outlook Express, Windows "LIVE" mail & others like them (EUDORA etc./et al), Hosts files do. THIS IS GOOD VS. SPAM M
You just seem more insane year after year. I wonder if there will be a day when Canadians gripe that they're on the verge of moving to the U.S.
"Well!" think half the other MPs, "Thank god I don't even know how to use a computer."
(-1: Post disagrees with my already-settled worldview) is not a valid mod option.
Canada.
Every now and then, we are starting to hear stories like this. Where has the notion of common sense gone to?
Was she removed from the building? Or was she removed from her job? She is an elected official, was a trail needed to remove her? Or can the majority party remove any member with enough votes?
No doubt there's something in her Facebook activity history indicating whether she joined herself or was added by someone else. That should be all the proof she needs.
Log in or piss off.
She was removed for "contempt", for refusing to apologize. This seems like a misuse of that kind of procedure. Contempt should be for, for example, swearing at another politician in the chambers. Being able to remove elected politicians on such a slim pretext is very dangerous to democracy.
Sue Facebook!
CAPTCHA: example
"What kind of message is that sending to the people of the province, to our children in the province, when we talk about bullying and harassment and intimidation?" said King.
Get a grip.
Rogers ... also said she was "appalled" that the house of assembly had been suspended over the matter.
As should everyone in her province and the rest of the country.
Dunderdale said her government understands how Facebook groups work, and she said it is up to every MHA to monitor the comments posted on Facebook groups to which they belong.
Good luck with that.
And here I thought we had a monopoly on stupid politicians here in the States.
The proper form that the apology should have taken is this, "I am sorry that anyone was offended because someone added me to a Facebook Group that included tasteless comments, comments that may constitute illegal threats of violence, made by someone else. I do not condone such language."
The truth is that all men having power ought to be mistrusted. James Madison
I guess if they want to burn you in politics, they will find a way...no matter how ass backwards.
My God can beat up your God. Just kidding...don't take offense. I know there's no God.
Add Kathy Dunderdale and her allies to as many unseemly Facebook groups as possible.
Apologizing is serious business.
Speaking as a Canadian... yawn. This is not getting much attention in Canada. It's just a couple of parties in a provincial legislature finding something new to bicker about. The same sort of thing happened last week in New Brunswick over who called someone a "witch" first, so they could determine who had to retract it (they had to go back to video of the session to answer that one). This one just happens to involve Facebook, and so it's sexy to some media.
What happened is entirely routine. Someone was involved in something that goes against the decorum of the legislature, someone else complained. They wouldn't apologize, so they were tossed out of the building for the day. They leave the FB group and the whole thing goes away. Almost nobody outside the legislature gives a damn, except to point out that it's not a terribly professional or productive environment if this is taking up significant time.
If the same thing had happened only not involving Facebook, the story would not be posted here. Politics is absurd on either side of the border, only people outside Canada don't see the local variety of "absurd" very often. Today you get to.
-- "So they told me that using the download page to download something was not something they anticipated." - Bill Gates
..nobody had been removed for the outright lies and slander of the various political attack ads that have been running in Canada. Apparently you can only be removed for something you didn't do or say.
Politicians fail to understand technology!
[/breathless-newscaster-voice]
Nothing to see hear. Move along, now...
$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski
* POOR SHOWING TROLLS, & most especially IF that's the "best you've got" - apparently, it is... lol!
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Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?
Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.
If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.
I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.
Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.
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I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.
If Natalie Portman is not measurable, hot grits are Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!
You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a variety of abusiv
Creating Nazi/Anarchist/pro-baby torture groups on Facebook and adding public officials to them.
Wee!
I think there's already a standard hashtag for this.
Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
... it's antisocial media at its worst: screwing up the lives of people whether they use it or not.
Oh, I'm sorry sir, I thought you were referring to me, Mr. Wensleydale.
Please do not add Dunderdale into every vile racist, misogynistic, gambling websites. Though it would teach her a valuable lesson on what is controllable and what is not in the internet, such thing could technically be illegal.
sed -e 's/Chuck Norris/Rajnikant/g' joke > fact
Holding others responsible works much better. Some people just don't care, but they care when many others make them care. This is a good thing. Even the cretins in the military figured this out decades ago when they started holding other people in the same platoon responsible for the actions of a single idiot. Laws in the smarter areas have been this way for years, but even in conservative/religious/ignorant areas are even starting to come around.
A great example is where a friend I went to high school with was convicted for murder for shooting someone even though he has never even fired a gun before. He was with a friend that was committing armed robbery, and his friend killed someone. The guy that didn't kill anyone was correctly convicted of murder. Every armed robbery in our town since then has been done by a lone gun owner because of the effectiveness of holding people responsible for the actions of others. When you punish, admittedly unfairly, someone of the actions of others, they will improve the actions of others. Maybe it isn't quite far, but it makes for a better world.
"Rogers said later Tuesday that, in the interests of legitimate free speech, she won't leave the group until she has had a chance to review its purpose."
Read more: http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/n-l-premier-kathy-dunderdale-says-she-was-threatened-online-1.1241215#ixzz2QkPT7V6E"
More fitting headline would be: "Dunderdale Frames Roger with Facebook to Avoid Reviewing Budget Fiasco."
"I'm sorry that Kathy Dunderdale, the Premier of Newfoundland and Labrador, does not understand how basic technology such as social media works. I am also sorry that her office makes knee jerk decisions based on bad information and do not take the time to validate facts before making unwarranted demands. I am sorry that Newfoundland and Labrador has such an inept government, though I am pleased that they were able to solve all the other pressing issues and problems before proceeding on this most important issue."
Living in Newfoundland myself, I've been hearing non-stop about her exploits as premier lately. It seems she's bat-shit crazy - That is, moreso than the rest of us. Among some of the other things she's tried to do have been to seal public spending records to make it impossible to see what the province is doing with its money, slashing education budgets, aggressive politics, compulsive lying and just generally being a slimeball.
Her predecessor (from the same political party - the provincial equivalent to the Conservative party) fought tooth and nail against the Harper government, even going so far as to recommend voting against him, but she regularly rolls out the red carpet and kisses ass whenever the prime minister and his cronies are around. It's obvious that like most of our premiers, she only wants to get in good with the federal government so that she can move up to a position there, and really has no other concerns than that. Her tactics are almost identical to the Harper government, to boot.
Sad thing is, this keeps happening because people here vote based on their voting history, not their actual ideals or which party would do the best job.
Screw the rules, I have green hair!
I see a lot of who want to be who on here, all I want to say is I am a proud Newfoundlander with friends from all over the world who I would be willing to take a bullet for or face zombie hordes with. I have awesome American (USA) friends, and awesome Canadian friends. I also know some douchebag Canadians and some douchebag Americans. I have traveled across Canada and some of the States and have seen many awesome fun things, but I always love coming home to the rock (nick name for Newfoundland).
I find it amusing that the current government talks of bullying and intimidation and are attacking Gerry Rogers over comments she didn't even make.
Meanwhile their former leader Danny Williams actually said similar comments personally and even threatened the deputy mayor of St. John's with physical assault but was never held accountable. It makes me wonder if the doublethink ever gives some of them a headache.
Eastern Health 'should be shot' over cancer test handling:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/story/2009/04/06/cancer-count-eastern.html
Threats of assault(3rd paragraph from the bottom):
http://www.macleans.ca/canada/national/article.jsp?content=20041220_95276_95276
He's either a grad student, took a long time to get his degree, got more than one degree, started his degree later in life, or got his /. account really young.
Heck, I only finished school in 2000 and I've got a 5-digit ID.
'Can I prevent people from adding me to a new group?'
If the answer is anything other than an unqualified yes, then Facebook is fatally flawed and no reasonable person should ever use it.
Imagine having a Facebook account and logging in one day to find that someone had added you as a member of NAMBLA, KKK, and 100s of other groups that are all abhorrent to you. Your good name would be instantly ruined.
Even if your name is ruined error, it's still ruined. The stakes are too high. Facebook's inability to forcefully answer this question "absolutely yes" is yet another reason why Facebook is simply unacceptable for use.
Someone just need to add all members of the house of assembly to the same group and then, declare that the house is dissolved because it can't meet again (all members are forbidden to enter the building by the same ruling).
Or the ruling only applies to some of the members?
"It's disgraceful. They should be shot over there"
-Newfoundland and Labrador Premier Danny Williams 2009
Misamericist is a closer butchery of English (or proper Merkin if you prefer). The fear only applies to their insane worship of violence...
The media is but a dim reflection; in this case, dimmer.
>> Can I prevent people from adding me to a new group?'
> If the answer is anything other than an unqualified yes, then Facebook
> is fatally flawed and no reasonable person should ever use it.
No, you cannot prevent yourself from being added to groups. One of Zuckerbergs's friends was so pissed off at this, that he created a NAMBLA group and added Zuck. See http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2010/10/07/mark-zuckerberg-joins-the-north-american-man-boy-love-association-and-other-adventures-in-facebook-groups/
> Blogger Michael Arrington seems to have already performed a helpful
> proof-of-concept by adding Mark Zuckerberg to a group supposedly
> representing NAMBLA, the North American Man-Boy Love Association.
But wait... there's more more...
> Zuckerbergâ(TM)s addition to the group is broadcast to all of his friends,
> as shown in the image above.
That's right. Not only can be added to groups you don't like, but each addition is broadcast to everyone on your friends list. Imagine the following scenario...
* gay university student hides sexual orientation from parents
* joins the university "Queer Chorus" (yes, that's what they called themselves)
* the president of the "Queer Chorus" adds them to the "Queer Chorus" Facebook group
* this addition *IS BROADCAST TO EVERYBODY ON THE PERSON'S FRIENDS LIST*
* since parents usually demand to be on their kids friends list, they were recipients of the broadcast message of their child being added to the group
See http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444165804578008740578200224.html
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