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Researchers Report Super-Powered Battery Breakthrough

another random user writes with news that researchers from the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign are reporting a breakthrough in battery technology. They say: "With currently available power sources, users have had to choose between power and energy. For applications that need a lot of power, like broadcasting a radio signal over a long distance, capacitors can release energy very quickly but can only store a small amount. For applications that need a lot of energy, like playing a radio for a long time, fuel cells and batteries can hold a lot of energy but release it or recharge slowly. ... The new microbatteries offer both power and energy, and by tweaking the structure a bit, the researchers can tune them over a wide range on the power-versus-energy scale (abstract). The batteries owe their high performance to their internal three-dimensional microstructure. Batteries have two key components: the anode (minus side) and cathode (plus side). Building on a novel fast-charging cathode design by materials science and engineering professor Paul Braun’s group, King and Pikul developed a matching anode and then developed a new way to integrate the two components at the microscale to make a complete battery with superior performance. With so much power, the batteries could enable sensors or radio signals that broadcast 30 times farther, or devices 30 times smaller. The batteries are rechargeable and can charge 1,000 times faster than competing technologies – imagine juicing up a credit-card-thin phone in less than a second. In addition to consumer electronics, medical devices, lasers, sensors and other applications could see leaps forward in technology with such power sources available."

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  1. In other news... by Scutter · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...Magic was discovered today and practical and affordable applications for it are now only 30 years away!

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    1. Re:In other news... by interval1066 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'm sure i'll get hatred for saying this but...

      Not hatred, but pity. Pity for you are a fool. The world has great need of decent portable power beyond phones.

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    2. Re:In other news... by Bam_Thwok · · Score: 2

      If you think you have deeper insights into the preferences of the market that have been missed by all the major phone manufacturers, by all means write a position paper and sell your consulting services. You'll make a pretty penny.

    3. Re:In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You forgot to check the "Post Anonymously" checkbox. Observe.

    4. Re:In other news... by Belial6 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The thing is that 'magic' (as in your example which is 'Sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.') has been discovered with practical and affordable applications so many times in our lifetimes that it isn't an absurd to believe it will happen again.

    5. Re:In other news... by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 4, Funny

      The thing is that 'magic' (as in your example which is 'Sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.') has been discovered with practical and affordable applications so many times in our lifetimes that it isn't an absurd to believe it will happen again.

      Wait. This new battery was written in Perl?

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    6. Re:In other news... by es330td · · Score: 2

      The world has great need of decent portable power beyond phones.

      This is true. Unfortunately, TFA says that they have created "microbatteries." While an anecdotal example of jump starting a car with a microbattery is included, lacking any numbers such as kwh of energy we have no idea if these can be scaled "beyond phones."

    7. Re:In other news... by gutnor · · Score: 2

      Well magic battery technology practical and affordable has been discovered several times in the last decade. We are still waiting for the practical application ... It is very cheap to claim breakthrough in science. The only interesting thing is that it is not using graphene.

      And that's not a recent phenomenon. When I was a kid almost 3 decades ago, I loved to read science magazine. I don't think a quarter of the breakthrough made it to production.

    8. Re:In other news... by funwithBSD · · Score: 2

      Like "personal massage wands" for example

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  2. That was the most worthless infomercial ever. by Nadaka · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That was the most worthless infomercial ever.

    1. Re:That was the most worthless infomercial ever. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Agreed. The whole article is full of vague comparison like 30 times farther, 30 times smaller, 1000 times faster etc. The abstract does not even talk about energy density. It only talks about power density. Even that is blatantly exaggerated. Based on the abstract, it translated to max 74 W/cm^3. The article claims, cell phone using batteries few millimeter in size can jump start a car. How is this possible unless the definition of "few" is overstretched and use a cell phone of the size of olden days public phone.

  3. The Fine Print by Darth+Cider · · Score: 5, Informative

    From the supplemental material: "The energy densities of the microbatteries are initially superior to the supercapcitors, but lose an average 5% total energy density after each cycle."

    1. Re:The Fine Print by Isca · · Score: 2

      I wish I had moderator points today. This is the key. Imagine of the battery only lasted half as long after only 30 days. NO THANK YOU!

    2. Re:The Fine Print by Isca · · Score: 3, Funny

      Now I just need to imagine that I know how to use proper grammar with logical, concise sentences.

    3. Re:The Fine Print by femtobyte · · Score: 2

      Hey Spaham, there's a visitor for you out in the hall --- says his name is Zeno. You might need to go out and help him --- he seems to be having some trouble making it to the door.

    4. Re:The Fine Print by lgw · · Score: 2

      I find it cool that Zeno's paradoxes still aren't really resolved. We still don't know what spacetime and motion actually look like at Plank scale. Assuming motion is somehow quantized at small enough scale does answer Zeno, but it's not clear why that would be so or how it would work. But hey, maybe one day Zeno will finally catch his pet tortoise.

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  4. Re:Looks like no extra energy in batteries by h4rr4r · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Which if we stop sacrificing everything at the alter of thin is fine.

    A GS3 or Iphone5 could be twice the thickness and easily just as portable and easy to use. This would more than double the battery life since the extra volume could essentially be just battery and not radio or mobo.

    So you would have a smartphone that lasted 2-5 days and could be charged in minutes.

    On the car side, 100 miles is plenty of range if I can charge in 10 minutes. That would give you a nice short break every 2 hours.

  5. Re:Power Density ? by h4rr4r · · Score: 2

    If it can charge in seconds it does not need huge power density. If you could charge your phone in 1 minute than it only lasting 24 hours would be fine. If you could charge your car in 10 minutes than only having 100 mile range would be fine.

  6. Re:Looks like no extra energy in batteries by locopuyo · · Score: 2

    As someone who carries his phone in his pocket instead of his purse I disagree.

  7. Re:Power Density ? by wagnerrp · · Score: 2

    If it can charge in seconds, then by very definition it has a huge power density. Perhaps you meant energy density?

  8. "imagine juicing up a credit-card-thin phone..." by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 5, Funny

    imagine juicing up a credit-card-thin phone in less than a second

    I'd like to, but my fuses just blew, the connector in the phone melted down, there's a smell of burning plastic insulation in my room, and a small fire seems to have started burning here, so I have other things on my mind!

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  9. Re:Sure by rwise2112 · · Score: 2

    Yes, I'm an idiot. I read super as sugar.

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  10. Interesting, but.... by d0n0v6n · · Score: 2

    ...do we ignore the first law of thermodynamics? If these batteries charge 1,000 times faster then they must put off 1,000 times the heat or so one would think under the law. Further, the largest collection of Lithium is sea water, but it is very inefficient to harvest existing at the ppm level.

  11. Re:"imagine juicing up a credit-card-thin phone... by mapsjanhere · · Score: 3, Funny

    The phone is credit-card thin, but the power connectors equal those on a car battery.

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  12. Re:Looks like no extra energy in batteries by Wycliffe · · Score: 2

    I've considered several times trying to modify my phone to take a battery twice as large.
    If used heavily, my phone usually dies halfway through the evening which means doubling
    the capacity would be more than enough. I don't have a problem plugging my phone in every
    evening so I really only need 12-16 hours instead of the 8-10 I currently get but ideally I would
    want 40 hours (or a second battery) for the rare occasion I forget to plug it in. Either way, my
    phone is plenty thin and I would barely notice the extra thickness of a slightly larger battery
    which is easily obtainable with existing technologies. Too bad cellphones don't have battery
    options like laptops do.

  13. Re:Looks like no extra energy in batteries by squiggleslash · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I carry my phone in my pocket. I have to use a long life battery with my Galaxy Nexus to make it last more than eight hours off charge, which means the stupid thing has a big ugly hunchback cover on the back of it, so the enlarged battery will fit. But while that might be ugly, it's hardly suddenly too thick to fit in my pocket.

    Remember we're only talking about thickening a phone by a millimeter or two to get something approaching a reasonable battery life. The current situation is absolutely ridiculous and has nothing to do with practicality or the ability to fit a phone in a pocket. It's purely looks. And it's a prime example of form being put ahead of function to an extreme degree.

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  14. Somewhere... by LordStormes · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ... Elon Musk has one hell of a rager over this. This could make electric cars that could go from Florida to New York on one charge, and recharge in similar time to a gas refill, a possibility.

    Say you got 500 miles to a charge, which is a reasonable amount if these numbers are to be believed. That's the amount of miles driven by the average US driver in 2 weeks. So if the battery needs to be replaced after 8-10 charges, you're talking once a quarter. If the battery costs $250 and is easily user-replaceable, this isn't a big deal:

    My quick, rough math says that if it lost 5% of the original maximum after every charge and the maximum charge of a brand new battery were 500 miles, 10 charges would come out to 3875 miles. If the battery can be produced for $250, that comes out to 15.5 miles to every $1 spent on the battery. Now, consider experiments are in progress to allow free/nearly free recharges, so the cost would really be reduced to just the battery. The current gas price I see out my window is $3.33/gal and my Scion xB gets about 30 MPG.

    So, my Scion costs $3.33 to go 30 miles. The Tesla with a $250 battery would cost $2, and not explode the environment.

    I'm sold. // of course these costs are pure conjecture until we know more.

    1. Re:Somewhere... by Alioth · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Recharging in the same time as a gas refill is unlikely to ever happen.

      To go NY to Florida in an electric car will take on the order of 1MWh. To recharge this in 5 minutes (gas refill time) would require a cable transferring a power of 12MW. If we used 25,000 volts to do this (the voltage of overhead electrical lines for high speed electric trains) the current would be 480 amps. It's simply not practical to do while obeying the laws of physics.

      Now think of how many people are fuelling up at a gas station at any given moment, and think about it if they are all drawing a power of 12 megawatts. There is no practical technology for the forseeable future that you can use to build a power grid capable of doing this. This is before we even get to safety issues of a power interconnect which is both high voltage and high current.

      Also think of that 12MW figure for a moment, and you may get an inkling why personal motorised transport is absolutely unsustainable.

    2. Re:Somewhere... by jimmux · · Score: 2

      Swapping would still work with this kind of rapid degradation, as well (assuming the kind of costings detailed above). People may not want a full charge every time, in which case it doesn't matter if they swap with a degraded battery.

      When a swapping location gets too many batteries at a certain level of degradation, they can simply adjust the price to encourage sales. When a battery is too degraded to sell, even at a discount, then it is ready to be shipped off (for recycling or whatever the case may be).

    3. Re:Somewhere... by Brannon · · Score: 2

      > Recharging in the same time as a gas refill is unlikely to ever happen.

      Agreed, but only because it is unnecessary, not because it is impossible. A 15 minute recharge every 4 hours (250 miles) is about as good as anyone really needs.

      > To go NY to Florida in an electric car will take on the order of 1MWh.

      Tesla Model S goes 265 miles on 85 Kwh for 3 miles/kwh, so the trip from Orlando to NYC (~1000 miles) would take about 333kwh which is about $40 worth of power (nothing unsustainable about that for the occasional long trip). Break this up into one 15 minute recharge every 4 hours of driving (250 miles) leads us to a recharge power of 333 kW (with a battery sized ~85kWh). The existing Tesla superchargers are already outputting 90 kW, so we are not that far off from the "plenty good enough" point. No laws of physics need to be broken to output 4x that current.

      > Now think of how many people are fuelling up at a gas station at any given moment, and think about it if they are all drawing a power of 12 megawatts.

      The instantaneous draw is irrelevant because there are energy storage elements in the grid and at the charger (batteries, capacitors, etc) to smooth everything out to the average demand. The average demand is less than 40 miles per car per day, which is 15 kwH per car per day; and overwhelmingly people will choose to charge low and slow from their home outlets at night. There really aren't enough people driving 1000 miles in a day to generate a gigantic continuous supercharge demand on the grid. Pretty much every study that has been done on this has shown that the existing grid and generating facilities can easily keep up with increasing power demand from electric vehicles.

  15. Re:"imagine juicing up a credit-card-thin phone... by TankSpanker04 · · Score: 2

    Apple's Lightning II connector coming soon...

  16. Re:Looks like no extra energy in batteries by bjs555 · · Score: 2

    You could try this:
    http://boondeeworkshop.com/cellphone/index.html
    Not exactly portable. It might make sense if you use your phone mostly in your car.

  17. Re:Capacity... by h4rr4r · · Score: 2

    If they offered that with stock android or at least an unlocked boot loader I would have considered it.

  18. You know what? by Dripdry · · Score: 2

    All I want on the side of my battery not is a logo that says, "King/Pikul" Start a jam band, name it King Pickle, profit.

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  19. Re:Looks like no extra energy in batteries by Sir_Eptishous · · Score: 4, Funny

    I would carry my phone in my pocket but my dongle usually gets in the way.

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  20. Re: Sure by michelcolman · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Namely "safety issues" ,

    seems like forever since we've had to worry about batteries exploding

    Tell that to Boeing

  21. Re:Looks like no extra energy in batteries by bzipitidoo · · Score: 2

    I keep hoping for the battery that will finally allow the electric motor to kill the combustion engine. What little the article says sounds great, but it doesn't speak to a lot of questions, and too soon concludes with trite superlative and celebratory statements. "... breaks the normal paradigms of energy sources." Sure it does-- if such batteries aren't prohibitively expensive to manufacture, can be scaled up to power cars, don't have memory problems, will last for thousands of discharge cycles, aren't prone to catching on fire or blowing up, and also can withstand significant damage without burning or detonating, can handle a wide range of temperatures and altitudes, and are not difficult to recycle or scrap. At least the article covers one essential feature: they recharge quickly.

    This kind of reporting is dreadfully common and tiresome. Seems every month brings us another announcement of a fantastic battery or fuel cell breakthrough. Evidently, it's asking too much of journalists to be a little more sober and thoughtful.

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  22. Re:Looks like no extra energy in batteries by MiniMike · · Score: 2

    Sigh. If only I could fit my cell phone into my pocket.

    You just need the right size pockets.

  23. Re:Anode versus Cathode by newcastlejon · · Score: 2

    The anode is the side current flows into, not necessarily the negative one. From wiki:

    In a discharging battery or galvanic cell (diagram at right), the anode is the negative terminal because it is where the current flows into "the device" (i.e. the battery cell). This inward current is carried externally by electrons moving outwards, negative charge moving one way constituting positive current flowing the other way.

    In a recharging battery, or an electrolytic cell, the anode is the positive terminal, which receives current from an external generator. The current through a recharging battery is opposite to the direction of current during discharge; in other words, the electrode which was the cathode during battery discharge becomes the anode while the battery is recharging.

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  24. Yes it does by geekoid · · Score: 4, Informative

    "Here we report lithium ion microbatteries having power densities up to 7.4mWcm2m1,which equals or exceeds that of the best supercapacitors, and which is 2,000 times higher than that of other microbatteries."

    WTF more do you want? you can calculate almost everything from there.

    Sheesh.

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    1. Re:Yes it does by fnj · · Score: 4, Informative

      "Here we report lithium ion microbatteries having power densities up to 7.4mWcm2m1,which equals or exceeds that of the best supercapacitors, and which is 2,000 times higher than that of other microbatteries."
      WTF more do you want? you can calculate almost everything from there.

      For god's sake, if you're going to quote technical math, can't you at least get it transcribed right? 7.4mWcm2m1 is utter nonsense. I realize for reasons unknown slashdot does not implement even elementary HTML markup like Greek letters, superscript and subscript. Preview shows garbage from cut and paste, so just improvise.

      The article says 7.4 mW cm^-2 micrometer^-1, which are pretty bizarre units, but readily convertinle to 74 GW/m^3, or 74 MW/liter. That gives us the power density in meaningful form, and it seems pretty damn impressive to me.

    2. Re:Yes it does by funwithBSD · · Score: 4, Interesting

      What concerns me is how this density is going to react to being shorted out.

      Flames? Explosion? China Syndrome?

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  25. Re:Looks like no extra energy in batteries by lgw · · Score: 2

    Combustion engines, while fun, spew poison into the air.

    So do electric power plants. What matters is how much, and modern combustion engines are very well optimized in that regard - something like 1/10000th of what a car from the 60s would.

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  26. you misunderstand circuitry and thermodynamics by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 2

    .do we ignore the first law of thermodynamics? If these batteries charge 1,000 times faster then they must put off 1,000 times the heat or so one would think under the law.

    The first law of thermodynamics says that energy isn't created or destroyed. It has nothing to do with charging rates. With respect to charging it just tells you that the stored energy added plus the losses (mostly heat) add up to the energy you supplied. (Second law says you have to lose SOMETHING to make the charging happen - though it doesn't say how much.)

    The key here is battery resistance. The heat produced is proportional to the SQUARE of the current. If you charged a battery with the same resistance a thousand times as fast, you'd generate a MILLION times the heat.

    Charge is determined by current times time. Maximum charging rate is determined by the highest charging current you can drive while creating heat no faster than it can be dissipated with the battery almost at the maximum temperature it can stand. Resistance tells you how much heat you generate at a given current. Cut the resistance by a factor of a million and you can multiply your charging rate by a factor of a thousand and get the same heat generation.

    The micro-geometry of the plates in this case (along with most of the recent ultra-fast-charge battery designs) results in drastically lowered resistance.

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  27. Re:Looks like no extra energy in batteries by aXis100 · · Score: 2

    And yet still twice as much as a coal fired power plant, 100 times as mich as a gas fired powerplant, and a million times more than a wind turbine.

  28. Re:Maybe you should learn to read? by fnj · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm afraid your cut and paste came out complete garbage. The number you want to express is 7.4 mW cm^-2 micrometer^-1, which is more conventionally expressed as 74 MW/liter. Slashdot's markup support for compositions is incredibly crude.