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Futurama Cancelled (Again)

eldavojohn writes "Bad news everybody. According to Entertainment Weekly, Futurama has been cancelled (again). The renewal of Futurama back onto television was met with great fanfare but sadly it appears that Futurama's luck has run out for a second time. The second half of season 7 will air from June 19th to September 4th and that will be it."

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  1. Good news everyone! by mpdolan37 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wait. there will be no more 'Good news everyone!'

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    1. Re:Good news everyone! by Mitreya · · Score: 5, Interesting
      So... how much Kickstarter money would they need to make another season...?

      Also, imagine how much money a guest voice role on Futurama could fetch!!

    2. Re:Good news everyone! by TWiTfan · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Please don't. And I say this as a huge Futurama fan from the beginning. The Comedy Central episodes were just fucking awful, even worse than those movies they did. You just can't go home again.

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    3. Re:Good news everyone! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Once again, the sandwitch heavy portfolio pays off!

    4. Re:Good news everyone! by eln · · Score: 4, Interesting

      "Fucking awful" is a bit strong, but they definitely weren't up to par. I'm not surprised it was cancelled, and at this point I'd be much happier if they put the series to bed instead of continually trying to bring it back, as it will inevitably get worse every time they do.

    5. Re:Good news everyone! by freeze128 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The episodes are roughly 1 million dollars each, so I would estimate about $26 Million for another season.

      How much you got?

    6. Re:Good news everyone! by Mitreya · · Score: 2

      The episodes are roughly 1 million dollars each, so I would estimate about $26 Million for another season.

      Do you have any actual knowledge or are you just making stuff up?

      I remember reading that FireFly episodes were $1M+/episode which was part of the problem, but being a space western with decent special effects, that made sense. Props and full-time actors are expensive. However, if a 22-minute animated series episode costs $1M, then I am sure some cutbacks can be made...

    7. Re:Good news everyone! by Dahamma · · Score: 2

      They were worse than the movies?? Ugh. Those movies are the reason I didn't bother watching the new episodes.

      Though at least this means it will never get as embarrassing as the Simpsons. Homer has jumped the shark so many times now the only plot point they haven't rehashed is Homer *literally* jumping a shark. And they almost did that one in a clip show a decade ago that was so bad many ironically reference it as the figurative shark-jumping moment as well.

    8. Re:Good news everyone! by maroberts · · Score: 2

      Hands up all those who read "Good News everyone!" in Professor Farnsworth's voice?!

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    9. Re:Good news everyone! by Capt.DrumkenBum · · Score: 2

      Next week on the Simpsons...

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    10. Re:Good news everyone! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      How come The Simpsons manage to stay fresh and funny?

    11. Re:Good news everyone! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      They didn't. Though they did last longer than Futurama, the newer episodes are soul-crushingly bad.

    12. Re:Good news everyone! by zap1992 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The Simpsons manage to stay fresh and funny? When did that start again?

      Granted I haven't watched the last few seasons, but I don't think that show has been funny in years.

    13. Re:Good news everyone! by amicusNYCL · · Score: 4, Informative

      certainly cutbacks can be made to get per-episode costs to something low enough to kickstarter fund.

      That's correct. The cutbacks would presumably be not having the original voice cast, writing team, or production crew. You would still need to purchase the rights from Fox, though. The syndication rights that Comedy Central bought from Fox are said to be the single most expensive acquisition for Comedy Central. They paid Fox $400k per episode just for syndication rights.

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    14. Re:Good news everyone! by omnichad · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I picked it up again from Season 20 when it went to HD. It's hit or miss, but pretty good overall. Definitely not the same show it was 20 years ago, but riffs on pop culture more often in the vein of Family Guy. And I'd still much rather watch The Simpsons than Family Guy.

    15. Re:Good news everyone! by hierophanta · · Score: 2

      +1

    16. Re:Good news everyone! by Koim-Do · · Score: 2

      Obviously, in Soviet Russia, that sig demands an explanation for you!

    17. Re:Good news everyone! by HairyNevus · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Agreed. When they were brought back suddenly they became all about making modern-day topical jokes (about Lady Gaga, Twitter, etc.) and throwing the whole "it's the year 3001" bit out the window. Plus, after Leela banged Zap Brannigan, again, willfully...something was just lost. In the sexing-up of the characters was another huge detraction.

      All that to say, I bet if it had been brought back on Adult Swim, things would have been different.

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    18. Re:Good news everyone! by Reverand+Dave · · Score: 4, Interesting

      When Futurama first premiered in 2000, it was the most expensive cartoon on air to produce due to the quality and the mix of CG with hand drawn animation. That is part of the reason it was initially cancelled by Fox. It had more to do with the cost than the actual ratings. I don't think that is the case anymore, but still when you watch the opening sequence, realize that there are over 80 layers of animation in just that few second span.

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    19. Re:Good news everyone! by amicusNYCL · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I apologize for confusing you all of these years. Soviet Russia jokes are from the comedian Yakov Smirnoff, who used Soviet Russia jokes to contrast life under a Communist regime with life in the US. His punchlines were that things in Soviet Russia are opposite from the US. The implication behind my signature is that in the US corporations control the government.

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    20. Re:Good news everyone! by amicusNYCL · · Score: 2

      Like Grog6 said, my signature really isn't a joke, it's not supposed to be funny. And I'm shocked that my explanation of a Yakov Smirnoff joke got modded to +5 here on Slashdot. Next someone is going to wonder why Natalie Portman would be covered in hot grits.

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  2. No surprise, really. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The newer episodes just haven't had that same flare the older ones did.
    A couple of them even felt forced.
    Better end a series on a decent note than to drag it on forever (Simpsons, Family Guy, etc)

    1. Re:No surprise, really. by Rotag_FU · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I agree with you regarding the "movies" that were really just 4 episodes with a loosely coordinated plot-line. That seemed to be more about making the economics of reviving the show work (i.e., direct to video sales plus delayed airings on CC). However, I thought they really fell flat on their face and were not engaging. It was obvious that the writers just couldn't make a 2 hour plot line broken up into 4 parts work.

      However, I thought the follow-up season on CC was actually pretty decent. I would not argue that they were the best the series had to offer, but they seemed like worthwhile inclusions, imho.

    2. Re:No surprise, really. by ackthpt · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The newer episodes just haven't had that same flare the older ones did.

      A couple of them even felt forced.

      Better end a series on a decent note than to drag it on forever (Simpsons, Family Guy, etc)

      Like Family Guy, IMHO, the jokes and themes were funny for a while, but wear thin in time. I can't even be bothered to see what's happening on the Simpsons, since I stopped watching it about ten years ago. Futurama has effectively flogged every dead horse the writers could find. Time to move on.

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    3. Re:No surprise, really. by kannibal_klown · · Score: 4, Informative

      Agreed on all points.

      Bender's Big Score was OK in parts; I kind of dug it. I particularly liked how stuck-in-the-past Fry realized he was Lars and had the emotional bit.

      But after that, weak sauce.

    4. Re:No surprise, really. by evilRhino · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The new seasons are worth it just for the evolution episode.

    5. Re:No surprise, really. by sconeu · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The problem with the movies was that they all had a "MESSAGE" that was driven home with a sledgehammer (possible exception: Bender's Game).

      MESSAGE episodes are usually turn-offs. "Tonight, on a Very Special Futurama...."

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    6. Re:No surprise, really. by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I loved Futurama when they were on Fox, but every episode I watched since they got picked up by CC felt like thinly veiled left-wing propaganda. I'd rather see them cancelled than carry on like this.

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    7. Re:No surprise, really. by KClaisse · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Couldn't agree more with this sentiment. The old episodes felt very clever and smart with their jokes often playing on scientific themes to make the punchline. That's what I really enjoyed about the original Futurama. After their comeback it seemed like they had changed to appeal to a wider audience, making more generalized jokes and story lines. I found early on I could predict the outcome of most episodes, at first anyway. By the end of their comeback the episodes were so disjointed it felt like the entire plot twisted two or three times an episodes. In the end I'm not even the least bit surprised they were canceled again. Fans like me were hoping and expecting Futurama to come right back to the old smart funny ways but were instead greeted with another generic cartoon spewing generic jokes to a futuristic theme. Maybe it was a mistake to come back in the first place, maybe they had a good run and should have been left with the cult following it had. Now its just a flop for the general audiences. C'est la vie.

    8. Re:No surprise, really. by punkrockguy318 · · Score: 2

      Not a surprise at all. Comedy central needs that extra airtime for more tosh.o :P

    9. Re:No surprise, really. by synapse7 · · Score: 3, Informative

      The hipster one was pretty good also.

    10. Re:No surprise, really. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The big problem was reduced running time. Going from 21 minutes down to 18 really hurts storytelling.

    11. Re:No surprise, really. by Conspiracy_Of_Doves · · Score: 2

      Your reboot was bad and you should feel bad!

    12. Re:No surprise, really. by lightknight · · Score: 2

      Yes, but think of how much more money the networks made by selling ad space for those three minutes! That's like 3-5 commercials, possibly more.

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    13. Re:No surprise, really. by Aerokii · · Score: 3, Funny

      Ran your main character into the ground? Why not Zoidberg?

    14. Re:No surprise, really. by nabsltd · · Score: 4, Informative

      The big problem was reduced running time. Going from 21 minutes down to 18 really hurts storytelling.

      The first half of season 7 of Futurama averaged 21:20 per episode (sans commercials, including credits), with none less than 21 minutes.

    15. Re:No surprise, really. by trodofor · · Score: 2

      The first time I saw Benders Big Score I was very excited to have Futurama back, but was pretty disappointed after I watched it. HOWEVER, I have watched it several times since then and I feel that although a little dragged out, it was probably some of the best content the Futurama team has EVER put together. It has the 3 elements that make the show as awesome as it is:

      1. science references
      2. witty and sometimes ridiculous comedy
      3. heart-touching moments that can make a grown man cry.

      The story line is tricky (especially with the time-travel) in ways that only Futurama can do. I felt that the rest of the movies were bad, and led into an even worse re-birth of the show.

      I will always love Futurama, but it is definitley time to call it quits. The new episodes still have many of the traditional characteristics, but have been overall very disappointing. I will watch it to the last second, but know that it is best to lay it to rest.

    16. Re:No surprise, really. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      That was the thing: the original run had left wing "propaganda" in it, too (global warming, garbage, oil tankers, Al Gore, vegetarianism, etc.) but they always turned those things on their head to make them funny. I never felt like they were beating me over the head with their message. Instead, it just felt like a natural part of the story. More recently, though, there was less funny and more message, which just isn't really that fun. If I want to be preached at, I'll just surf the web.

  3. Kickstarter by F34nor · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Put you money where your mouth is.

    1. Re:Kickstarter by dgatwood · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Is it bad that I read that in Bruce Willis's voice, complete with the trailing expletive?

      Speaking of fun plots, they should have done one in which they unfreeze John McClane (voiced by Bruce Willis, of course). He falls for Leela, but keeps calling her Leeloo. Then he happens to be at a spaceport when they discover that an asteroid is heading towards earth, and the only way to stop it is to foil the terrorists who have taken the spaceport hostage so that he can steal a ship and mine the asteroid. Meanwhile, he is constantly being annoyed by Dr. Zoidberg who keeps talking in a high-pitched voice while wearing a light blond wig and a bizarre leopard-print suit.

      Spoiler: it ends with the Earth blowing up when the asteroid hits it.

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    2. Re:Kickstarter by AK+Marc · · Score: 2

      That's the problem with TV. It's not about users, but customers. The customers of the show are the advertisers. The users of the show would be willing to pay more for the show, but the customers aren't. So dead it goes.

    3. Re:Kickstarter by Seumas · · Score: 2

      No, it wouldn't. It's not a matter of viewership. It's a matter of production cost. Remember, the SciFi channel went through all this many times. They canceled great shows great ratings and the highest viewership of any other content on their network. Shows like First Wave, Farscape, and Eureka!. They replaced them with wrestling and a conman talking to dead people in an audience of desperate suckers and a bunch of idiots "hunting ghosts". Why? Because the production costs were too high for those shows. Producing a high quality show is too expensive. Networks would rather product things that are ridiculously cheap and still get a huge audience, like reality television, wrestling, etc.

  4. 7 seasons and several movies... by Orleron · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Honestly not a bad run for any show. Can't see a reason to complain.

    1. Re:7 seasons and several movies... by cervesaebraciator · · Score: 5, Funny

      Oh, there are lots of reasons to complain. Airing only 13 new episodes a year? Taking two years to airs a 'season'?

      So, I'm guessing you're not a Red Dwarf fan.

  5. Well yeah, it sucked by rastoboy29 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Don't bring a show back unless you can do it at similar quality as before.  Family Guy is a great example of the right way to do it.  Futurama is the wrong, sad, terrible way.

    1. Re:Well yeah, it sucked by SpeZek · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Family Guy is a great example of the right way to do it.

      Mods, give this man +5 Funny.

    2. Re:Well yeah, it sucked by badbart · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If I had mod points, you'd get them. FG is a great example of how bad it can be.

  6. We can make them change their minds yet... by UnCivil+Liberty · · Score: 4, Funny

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  7. Time to petition? But this time... by N0Man74 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Maybe folks can petition asking Netflix to pick it up?

    Or... we can just let the show die and make room for new ideas and shows. I loved Futurama, but it's OK for shows to end, even good shows. It's better to die out than to see a show that drag on way too long.

  8. Re:Time to petition? But this time... by MightyMartian · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Let the show die. The direct-to-video movies were by and large second rate, and the new season, while it had some high points, just didn't have the charm of the old seasons.

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  9. who's gonna pick this up and make $BIG MONIE$$$?!! by Thud457 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Doesn't matter if they've been slipping. Throw in enough lame geek in-jokes and the fanbois will beat a golden path to your door.

    Right now, all the online content providers are looking to content creators to get brand lock-in.

    Who's gonna bring Futurama back from the dead again?
    Amazon?
    Hulu?
    Google?
    Netflix?

    It's inevitable.

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  10. Good news everyone! It's the perfect time! by erroneus · · Score: 2

    It's the perfect time and subject for an experiment I have been considering. I think that broadcast networks are no longer needed or perhaps simply not quite so necessary. If Groening were to keep a team of enthusiast artists and the original voice actors, I would be willing to bet people would subscribe to Futurama online paying micro payments or simply not worry about that and they can sell ad space on their own streaming host server. The point being that the internet has enabled much. And publishing and continuing a favorite TV series is probably a good thing to try.

    It's too late for "Firefly" (or is it?) but maybe not for Futurama... and seriously, without network censors?? It'll be WAY better.

  11. Re:Put beavis and butthead in it's place that show by newcastlejon · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Put beavis and butthead in it's place that show needs to come back.

    It did back in 2011, but quietly died again shortly afterwards.

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  12. Final frontier by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 3, Funny

    Hollywood can grunt out a live action version. Hey, it worked for the Flintstones!

    1. Re:Final frontier by CanHasDIY · · Score: 2

      Hollywood can grunt out a live action version. Hey, it worked for the Flintstones!

      Quick! Mod this down into oblivion, before the Hollyweird trolls get any ideas!

      Now we just have to hope they don't read /. at -1...

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  13. Re:Time to petition? But this time... by Threni · · Score: 2

    To make money, one would assume.

  14. Re:another futurama? by Thud457 · · Score: 2
    wait, Futurama hasn't even completed the standard phases of sitcomage:
    • wedding
    • cute kid
    • inexplicable actor replacement
    • jumping the shark - in Futurama's case Fry literally has to jump the space-shark

    Then Zoidberg, Scruffy and Zapp Brannigan all get short-lived spin-off series.

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  15. not necessarily the end by roc97007 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    TFA (maybe not this FA, but some FA I read this morning before I saw it on Slashdot) says that Groening is looking for another home for the show as "we still have more stories to tell". I know I know, they always say that, but all I'm saying is, Groening reportedly has not made the decision to irrevocably end the show. So it's not exactly like the browncoat thing, where sad overweight acne-encrusted fans in poorly made costumes plead with... I'm sorry, did I say that out loud?

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  16. Producing Credit: Bender B. Rodriguez by CanHasDIY · · Score: 5, Funny

    Fine, I'll go make my own TV show! With blackjack! and hookers!

    In fact, forget the TV show!

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    1. Re:Producing Credit: Bender B. Rodriguez by Brett+Buck · · Score: 3, Insightful

      And the blackjack

  17. Re:Futuramma was good, except for the Transphobia by CanHasDIY · · Score: 2

    Futuram[a]... teaches people to dislike, hate, PEOPLE who are transgendered and transsexual.

    Ah, so you're one of those people who looks to fictional works such as cartoons for education. Noted.

    FWIW, that says a hell of a lot more about you than it does the creators of Futurama.

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  18. Oh you and your sentimentality. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Futurama is brilliant, especially when pitted against the.brain dead "Ow my balls" class of reality of television.

    The new seasons had excellent character growth and development. While the original series was great, it was childish and down right infantile at times, the movies were awkward like the teenage years, and the two new seasons were the beginning of a quality adult audience show. It is one of the ONLY animated shows on television at the moment that caters specifically to the 18-25 demographic, and it's smart too. Take the mathematical proof they created for the show. When was the last time any television show created a tangible real world theorem?

    It seems the operators of the Panama Wormhole, Earth's Comedy Central channel for shipping, are making the same fateful mistake as the idiots at the Box Network.

    1. Re:Oh you and your sentimentality. by MrHanky · · Score: 5, Insightful

      True. The Late Philip J Fry is easily one of the best episodes of the entire series. Of comedic science fiction, in fact.

    2. Re:Oh you and your sentimentality. by cyfer2000 · · Score: 2

      I love that episode, almost made me cry, maybe I am just a strange nerd.

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    3. Re:Oh you and your sentimentality. by azcoyote · · Score: 2

      Agreed--"The Late Philip J Fry" is one of the best, if not the best.
      IMHO the new episodes are a mixed bag, some excellent, others just lame. The best part is that the 'romance' between Fry and Leela has finally matured out of the annoying "Doug"-esque episodes of season 4 to something less pathetic and more humorous ("A Farewell to Arms," for example). There's also better use of sci-fi and science references and parodies, but there's also some episodes that try too hard to be relevant or political and just reduce the overall quality of the series.

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    4. Re: Oh you and your sentimentality. by root_42 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      This, this, a thousand times this! "The Late Philip J. Fry" is my favorite Futurama episode. So witty and full of good jokes and quotable lines. ("Just slow it down, I'll shoot Hitler out the window.")

      But I must concur, the quality of the episodes varies in the last two seasons. I hope there'll be new, excitong shows around the corner.

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  19. Futurama Production Math? by rabtech · · Score: 2

    If the rumors are to be believed, Futurama cost $1.3 million per episode to produce back in 2003 during the original run. We know Comedy Central gave them a smaller budget this time around, so let's just assume a million per episode.

    So let us say we all want to fund a season of Futurama (putting our money where our mouth is):

    16 episode season x $1,000,000 = $16,000,000.

    Now assume the average audience is 2 million. Some would be willing to pay, some would not. But assume the lost TV viewers are made up for with the DVD buyers (who are worth a lot more). That works out to around $8/person to fund a season.

    If I had the option, I would gladly pay $8-$10 per season.

    For reference, AMC's Mad Men cost between $2-2.5 million per episode. In the first season, it didn't even break a million viewers. The second season had 2 million, same as Futurama.

    I don't believe the economics are at the root of the cancellation; it's probably an executive trying to make their mark by shaking up programming and cancelling Futurama makes way for his/her pet project - one they can take credit for launching.

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    1. Re:Futurama Production Math? by Guspaz · · Score: 2

      Netflix is willing to spend $100 million on 26 episodes of things like House of Cards, an average of about $3.85 million each. It's not inconceivable that they might be willing to spend $1 million an episode on Futurama.

    2. Re:Futurama Production Math? by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 2

      This exact thing happened to MST3K *twice*.

      New numbnuts execs come into the channel and delete the cult show because they don't understand the appeal and want to make their mark.

      It was felt by MST3K fans that it was canceled in favor of the The Daily Show. Not the current decent version of the Daily Show, but the shitty Craig Kilborn version of the Daily Show.

  20. Re:another futurama? by Darth_brooks · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Cute Kid: Hubert (who was added explicitly as the annoying 'cute' kid.)

    Wedding: That's the last episode, according to the rag sheets

    Inexplicable actor replacement: WELSHIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (ok, granted, it was a guest star, and was done only because James Doohan politely declined to do the Star Trek episode)

    So other than that you've got Jumping the Shark, which most folks would call the movies. I'd fine with the show either way. It had a nice run, even if the comedy central episodes didn't quite have that mind blowing awesomeness (which, who knows, maybe after a few years in reruns they'll develop.)

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  21. Souls crushed, while you wait! by Pharmakeus+Ubik · · Score: 5, Informative

    Apparently those of us viewing it at my house have souls made of sterner stuff. Maybe it just seems enjoyable compared to Seth McFarlane's triple parade of misogyny, but I get more laughs per 22 minutes out of the Simpsons current season than most of what's on television.

    1. Re:Souls crushed, while you wait! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Funnier than Family Guy and The Cleveland Show? Setting the bar pretty low, aren't we?

    2. Re:Souls crushed, while you wait! by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You have to admit, though, that the competition ain't that stiff to begin with...

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    3. Re:Souls crushed, while you wait! by hairyfeet · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That is easy to explain, the constant bashing of your skull with reality shit like Honey Boo Boo has left you brain damaged so that even half ass jokes are funny.

      But if you compare the first couple of season of both shows to recent episodes there really is no comparison as it was MUCH funnier and written better in those first seasons than it is now. You are simply so horribly pummeled by the reality dreck that honestly anything actually written and having a punchline will seem like the best of Richard Pryor compared to the white trash fights and farting that is considered humor today.

      Personally I'm waiting for "Ass:The Movie" or "Oww my balls" to air because it feels like we have just about dumbed down that damned far.

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    4. Re:Souls crushed, while you wait! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flatulence_humor

      Although it is likely that flatulence humor has long been considered funny in cultures that consider the public passing of gas impolite, such jokes are rarely recorded. Two important early texts are the 5th century BC plays The Knights and The Clouds, both by Aristophanes, which contain numerous "fart" jokes.

      Fart jokes are ancient. People have been laughing at them for millenia.

    5. Re:Souls crushed, while you wait! by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 2

      I'm not old enough to remember when Family Guy was funny. And I was born in 1959.

  22. Re:Put beavis and butthead in it's place that show by Hatta · · Score: 2

    Did you like B&B in the 90s? It's the same damn show. And FWIW, I hate Tosh.

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  23. Re:Put beavis and butthead in it's place that show by CanHasDIY · · Score: 2

    Did you like B&B in the 90s? It's the same damn show.

    I did when it was original and new... of course, I was a lot younger back then, too, so I presume the fact that I liked the show then had a lot to do with my maturity level at the time (low. Really low.) The Sega and SNES games were pretty good, though. Fun at least.

    And FWIW, I hate Tosh.

    Ditto. Since when did "mouthy douchebag who thinks he's funny" become the norm for comedians? I miss Bill Hicks...

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  24. What seasons 5&6 wasn't character development by Burning1 · · Score: 2

    I don't really think the newer seasons developed the characters... I think they tended to continue the Federalization that had started to set in through season 4 of the original run.

    IMO, establishing facts about a character, revealing the back-story of a character, or establishing a relationship between characters is not the same as character development... This is something that the later writers need to understand.

    Here's an example of strong character development:

    In parasites lost, Fry becomes something of an ideal man thanks to the efforts of a worm he picks up from a truck-stop egg salad sandwich. His strength, intelligence, and artistic ability make him attractive to Lela. For one of the first times in the Series, Fry and Leela become close romantically. But ultimately, Fry gives up all of his new-found strength, because Fry wanted the relationship to be based on who he was in and of himself, rather than how he was perceived by Leela. Fry's character is further developed when he starts to practice the Holophoner in order to become the person Leela respected.

    This episode was a huge character defining moment for Fry. This episode did not have a significant impact on Futurama continuity. What it did was to truly help us understand fry as a person in a way that Lars never really could. It developed Fry in a way that his season 5 & 6 relationship with Leela didn't.

    I think Fry somewhat devolved as a character during the comedy central run of Futurama. His sincerity is still there, but it seems like a part of his core personality. His stupidity becomes a much more predominant characteristic. He started to feel like a young, orange haired Homer Simpson.

    For what it's worth, I think The Late Phillip J. Fry and the Prisoner of Benda were gems from the later seasons. There was some good stuff in seasons 5 & 6, and some bad stuff in Seasons 1-4, but on average I was kind of disappointed by seasons 5&6. I haven't been following Futurama nearly as closely as I once did.

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    The backwards time machine still won't have arrived
    In all the world, there's only one technology
    A rusty sword for practicing proctology"