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Google's House of Cards

theodp writes "In 'The Design That Conquered Google,' The New Yorker's Matt Buchanan reports that 'cards' — modeled after real cards — are set to become one of the dominant ways in which Google presents certain types of information to users. The power of a card as a visual-organization metaphor according to Matias Duarte (lead designer of Android), is that 'it makes very clear the atomic unity of things; it's still flexible while creating a kind of regularity.' Hey, maybe that Bill Atkinson was really on to something with that dadgum HyperCard software of his back in the '80s!"

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  1. or Paul Heckel w/ Zoomracks by WillAdams · · Score: 3, Informative

    Here:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoomracks

    I just want to see a tool which makes it easy to collect information, sort it out, edit it and keep it all consistent --- been using tools for this since Zoomracks came out, and still haven't found the perfect tool.

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    1. Re:or Paul Heckel w/ Zoomracks by marcello_dl · · Score: 2

      or wagn.

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    2. Re:or Paul Heckel w/ Zoomracks by kermidge · · Score: 1

      Wow, hadn't heard the name or thought of Zoomracks since mid-Nineties, started using it on my ST in '89, I think. Blast for the past, great idea, wish it had continued and grown.

  2. Words by Hypotensive · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The main advantage of presenting something as a card is that the word "card" is different from the word "page", and people are kind of tired of hearing the word "page" now.

    1. Re:Words by tnk1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Well, for those who remember actually making out notecards for school work, there was a sense that a "card" actually represented a different way of presenting data that was more concise, and the understanding that space was at a premium. You also were able to manipulate them a lot more easily than pages of paper, as they were both smaller and made of more rigid stock, so the understanding was that ordering would not always be sequentially in a fixed page order.

      Whether that is what people are thinking of today when they talk about "cards", I don't know. It did make sense as a metaphor back in the days of HyperCard, though.

    2. Re:Words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Googler here. Actually, the problem is internal to Google -- it's too easy to confuse (web) page with (Larry) Page.

    3. Re:Words by gstoddart · · Score: 2

      What say you?

      Lay on, Macduff, And damned be him that first cries, "Hold, enough!"

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    4. Re:Words by hsmith · · Score: 2

      I also think a "card" forces you to think in a more refined space. It forces you to intelligently (ideally) reduce things down. eg: With a piece of paper you can write forever (a page), with a card, you must condense to utilize the space.

      Cards are a decent metaphor for the form factor.

    5. Re:Words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe if they play their cards right this might actually work.

    6. Re:Words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I say "huzzah!"

      APK

    7. Re:Words by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      What a piece of work is a man! How noble I
      reason, how infinite in faculty! In form and moving
      how express and admirable! In action how like an Angel!
      in apprehension how like a god! The beauty of the
      world! The paragon of animals! And yet to me, what is
      this quintessence of dust? Man delights not me; no,
      nor Woman neither; though by your smiling you seem
      to say so.

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    8. Re:Words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yes. If Hypercard was so incredible, why was it never adapted to the PC.
      It was nice, but not that nice.

    9. Re:Words by fwarren · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Much like classic FORTH programming widh disk blocks. 1 BLOCK = 1K = 16 lines of 64 characters. Any word/function/definition needed to fit in 15 lines of text (The 1st of the 16 lines was used for comments). You had the ability to extend a definition beyond one screen of text but it was usually considered bad form. Typically if it would not fit, it was natures way of telling you that you did not undertand the problem well enough to code a proper solution. Clarity comes as you are forced to break things down into there smallest components.

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    10. Re:Words by WillAdams · · Score: 1

      There were a number of HyperCard clones for Windows:

        SuperCard
        Runtime Revolution
        Asymetrix Toolbook

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    11. Re:Words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So not disk blocks I assume... since they have been 512 bytes since the time when FORTH was not ridiculously outdated in even the basic assumptions about computing it based all its paradigms on. Which is 8 lines of 64 8-bit characters.

      Nowadays, with UTF-8 or UCS2 having been the standard for more than two decades, and languages like Haskell making functions of that size non-existent and unnecessary anyway, the whole concept sound like a silly joke from the open reel tape drive times

  3. Plus ca change by dsmithhfx · · Score: 0

    Everything old is old again!

  4. Oh, my eyes! by mariox19 · · Score: 1

    It is slightly overwhelming in its information density compared to most social networks, and its spare use of color around the edges lends it a feeling of lukewarmness.

    The mobile interface on Google+ just seems frenetic to me, in a TMI sort of way. Others may like being visually assaulted, but it's not for me.

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  5. WebOS by dloflin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Also sounds like the dominant paradigm in WebOS...

    1. Re:WebOS by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      Also sounds like the dominant paradigm in WebOS...

      well putting ui/display elements in boxes which separate different elements from each other and also group same kind of elements together... hmm........... yeah that's truly new.

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    2. Re:WebOS by SpectreBlofeld · · Score: 2

      I do believe the chief design guy from WebOS went to Google after Palm folded.

    3. Re:WebOS by noahisaac · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Well, Android became significantly more webOS-like when google poached him from Palm. I hope it continues that trend. I'm very sad that webOS is essentially dead now. The multi-tasking elements of webOS are far superior to that of Android and iOS.

    4. Re:WebOS by Shadow+of+Eternity · · Score: 2

      Have you had a chance to use a version that supports same-screen multitasking yet? On a large enough screen it's basically true desktop style multitasking.

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    5. Re:WebOS by Sabah+Arif · · Score: 5, Informative

      The similarity to WebOS is no coincidence since Matias Duarte was the chief designer at Palm before moving to Google. He even gave demos at the Pre/WebOS launch.

    6. Re:WebOS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yup, he is the Matias Duarte referenced in the article. And the WebOS UI is still the best one I've used bar none.

    7. Re:WebOS by Dishevel · · Score: 3, Informative

      If you have a Google account.
      Go here.
      Once you see that you can see exactly what Google knows, and that you can have control over who can see it you will not worry as much.
      Google has more info than anyone else, but many places have a lot of info on you. Most hide what they know about you and many sell the raw info.
      Google, So far, only uses the info to target ads to you. Not really a bad thing. I would rather see a targeted ad than one for Maxipads or Viagra.
      Google also give you quite a bit of control over it. The major plus though is that they do not split it up and make it difficult for you.
      Google search, Play store, YouTube, Google Plus, Gmail, Drive and more. All those settings, all that information displayed for you to control in one place.
      Name someone else that does that for you.

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    8. Re:WebOS by Sporkinum · · Score: 2

      That doesn't work they way you think it works. They have tons more information on you they don't show. Just because you have search history off doesn't mean they don't have it. It only means they don't show it to you.

      Concerning WebOS. My wife tried android on her HP touchpad and promptly went back to WebOS. She probably uses the touchpad more than her desktop.

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    9. Re:WebOS by PapayaSF · · Score: 1

      Google, so far, only uses the info to target ads to you. Not really a bad thing. I would rather see a targeted ad than one for Maxipads or Viagra.

      I think you are missing the point here. The awkwardness and privacy concerns arise from the targeting: e.g. when a middle-aged guy gets a targeted ad for Viagra. Or, in my case, when some Google research about STDs later gave me targeted ads for STD tests.

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    10. Re:WebOS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and alot of that is cross polinating into android.

      PALM may you rest in peace.

    11. Re:WebOS by Dishevel · · Score: 1

      Go you your dashboard.
      Under web search. Remove those searches from you history.
      Google will no longer use those searches in targeting ads to you. Simple.

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    12. Re:WebOS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Oh *gasp*, The EPOC32 (predecessor of SymbianOS) on the Psion did this before you were even born!
      (It doesn't matter if it was great. It matters that it *did* it.)

  6. WebOS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Lest we forget Palm did a cards metaphor in WebOS, which was quite excellent.

    Google Now creeps me the heck out! I'd feel better about it if it wasn't a Google product. I feel my privacy has a little protection when this stuff isn;t so thoroughly centralized in the hands of a single entity.

  7. I've always hated this "card" concept by bessie · · Score: 2

    I understand it's utility when, say, you enter the name of a nearby store and it presents info about it, its hours, etc; or a plane flight, and it tells you the details of the flight.

    But sometimes I just want plain, unadulterated search, based on the terms as entered. I don't even want the card presented first and THEN the search results (as it does now). I JUST WANT SEARCH RESULTS, NO CARDS.

    I've turned off ALL the cards, all the Google Now stuff... but it doesn't go away on my Android device. Despite all the settings, there seems no way to completely turn it off.

    Bah.

    - Tim

    1. Re:I've always hated this "card" concept by marsu_k · · Score: 1

      But sometimes I just want plain, unadulterated search, based on the terms as entered.

      Open a browser, type search terms on the address bar, submit?

    2. Re:I've always hated this "card" concept by alostpacket · · Score: 2

      You can disable Google Now (I think) and just use the search. Check the setting in Google Now, and/or try disabling the Google Now app itself from your device's main settings > apps.

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    3. Re:I've always hated this "card" concept by bessie · · Score: 1

      Well, I meant from the search bar on an Android phone. I think the built-in browser also uses the cards, so I'd need to use the Firefox or Chrome search - not sure even those would work, depending on if they themselves are using Google for their search.

      I opened a browser, typed "What time is it in California" and got a "card" for the time in California, which I don't want - just vanilla search results.

      So your suggestion doesn't work as such.

      - Tim

    4. Re:I've always hated this "card" concept by bessie · · Score: 1

      I disabled it through all possible means (disabled all cards individually, disabled cards/Google Now generally. It reduces their number, but not entirely... as I mention above, for example, I type "What time is it in California" and get a "card" saying "It's 5 oclock in California" or whatever. I don't want that, I want search results only, no "guessing what I REALLY want" stuff.

      I can get around it through using other browsers' search functions, perhaps, or alternative search apps like DuckDuckGo.

      It'd just be nice if Google let me turn it off completely.

      - Tim

    5. Re:I've always hated this "card" concept by marsu_k · · Score: 1

      Granted, I don't run vanilla Android anywhere at the moment - but this is what happens both on a stock S3 and Transformer Infinity, running "Browser", i.e. some-webkit-based-browser-that's-not-Chrome. I'm sorry if this is a WORKSFORME-type of response.

    6. Re:I've always hated this "card" concept by bessie · · Score: 1

      I'm running stock vanilla Android on a Galaxy Nexus.

      Lemme check here:

      "What time is it in California" using:

      Google Search Bar: 1st response is a 'card'
      Android Stock Browser: 1st response is a 'card'
      Firefox for Android: 1st response is a "card" (but scaled down in size - Google is default Firefox search engine)
      Chrome for Android: 1st response is a "card" (full sized - Google is also default search engine)
      DuckDuckGo: 1st response is a "card", but it looks like a different implementation - it says "Computer by WolframJAlpha" on it
      Bing: No "card" - though I do get a summary of a world-time page as the first result ... so it looks like... THERE IS NO ESCAPE! :-(

      I'll recheck my Android settings and see if there's anything else I need to turn off. Perhaps after some recent updates they were reset.

      - Tim

    7. Re:I've always hated this "card" concept by bessie · · Score: 1

      Typo - "Computed by WolframJAlpha"

      - Tim

    8. Re:I've always hated this "card" concept by marsu_k · · Score: 1

      It sounds really annoying, and I'm sorry I'm not able to help you. Perhaps Google offers a different Google "experience" on Nexus devices? On a totally unrelated note - boy does the new Slashdot mobile site suck. I never read this via my mobile due to the "competence" of /. web devs, just occasionally check responses to comments. It seems to go into an infinite loop of replies, I'm able to see our discussion repeated ad infinitum. *golf clap*

    9. Re:I've always hated this "card" concept by marsu_k · · Score: 1

      Actually, trying your example query, the first response I get is a "card" as well. Perhaps my queries are usually so obscure / I use bookmarks too much that these don't appear? But... it's a single "card". One flick of the thumb and it's out of the view, the "card" doesn't show in subsequent result pages. This really is your issue? I'd be infinitely pissed if those were all the search results, but as such... really, not such a big deal, in my opinion.

    10. Re:I've always hated this "card" concept by bessie · · Score: 1

      I haven't tried the mobile site lately - I gave up when it was taking forever for them to fix the bug of thumb-scroll being reeeeeeeeely slow, but I've heard they fixed that since.

      - Tim

    11. Re:I've always hated this "card" concept by bessie · · Score: 1

      Yes, just a single card - not a whole result set of them. Not a horrible problem, no indeed, but there's also often a delay between the first 'card' result and the rest of the results, which is annoying. It's as if Google is saying "You want this one, right?" and waiting for a bit, and then going to search for the rest of the results if I stay on the results page.

      I just want the result immediately, not a "You want THIS, right? right? ... okay, I guess you might want something else - I'll go get some more results" behavior.

      Not the worst problem I could have, but I just want to be able to control that behavior, to completely disable the "do what I mean" kind of thing it's doing there.

      - Tim

    12. Re:I've always hated this "card" concept by DragonWriter · · Score: 1

      I disabled it through all possible means (disabled all cards individually, disabled cards/Google Now generally. It reduces their number, but not entirely... as I mention above, for example, I type "What time is it in California" and get a "card" saying "It's 5 oclock in California" or whatever. I don't want that, I want search results only

      Those aren't Google Now, which is why disabling everything in Now has no effect on them. Those are search results (I think the cards are all technically part of Knowledge Graph) which (like the calculator results introduced much earlier) are core functionality of Google Search.

    13. Re:I've always hated this "card" concept by bessie · · Score: 1

      Ahhh - thanks for explaining. The way they appear, they *look* a lot like the "card"/Google Now functionality; too bad I can't tell Google Search not even to display those. I wouldn't mind so much if 1) they didn't take up extra space at the top of the results screen, and 2) there wasn't that delay between showing that first result and showing the rest (at least on the phone, perhaps not in a full browser).

      *sigh*

      - Tim

  8. Do not want. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    If I wanted to use a card catalog I'd print off pages of search results on 3x5 cards.

    Nothing is easier than line by line search results sorted by most relevant. All making them virtual card shaped will do is add more room for advertisement, which after all is the real play here.

  9. Not the house of cards I was thinking of by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And here I was thinking the article would have been about how Google's search engine and personalization features are degrading the quality of its services to the point the whole company will collapse from the ground up as leaner competitors figure out how to do more with less.

    1. Re:Not the house of cards I was thinking of by jeffmeden · · Score: 1

      And here I was thinking the article would have been about how Google's search engine and personalization features are degrading the quality of its services to the point the whole company will collapse from the ground up as leaner competitors figure out how to do more with less.

      Good Luck with that. Google, Facebook, Twitter are the new GM, Ford, Chrysler (not in that order necessarily). They are so big that the scale they leverage is untouchable to any newcomers to the market, no matter how lean or competitive they may be. It will be many years before the internet-era equivalent of the electric car comes along to shake up the industry, and a few more after that before the industry is actually shaken. Once your company is valued in the tens/hundreds of billions, competition gets squashed long before it has a chance at challenging you.

  10. Er...like Powerpoint? Or Windows 8? by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 1

    >> neat card in a stack

    So...one card at a time, with a primarily forward/back interface...like PowerPoint?

    >> On a large monitor, the grid spans three cards wide; on a smaller one, just two.

    Oh no - didn't we just get Microsoft to retreat from THAT metaphor?

  11. Windows Live Tiles by guanxi · · Score: 1

    Hey, maybe that Bill Atkinson was really on to something with that dadgum HyperCard software of his back in the '80s!"

    And perhaps Microsoft is onto something applying it to current OS interfaces with Live Tiles.

    1. Re:Windows Live Tiles by DragonWriter · · Score: 1

      And perhaps Microsoft is onto something applying it to current OS interfaces with Live Tiles.

      Certainly Microsoft (and many others; they weren't the only ones doing similar things) were on to something a long time ago when they first came up with the UI design principles that evolved into the "Metro" design language, which whatever the problems are with the way they've done some of the concrete implementations, the basic principles are sound,

  12. Stand by ... by PPH · · Score: 1

    ... for the inevitable patent in three, two, one ....

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  13. I remember Hypercard! by dragonard · · Score: 2

    Did consulting work for BP back in the '80s when they were strictly a Mac shop. Hypercard was used extensively in homebrew apps like BP's MSDN stack.

    1. Re:I remember Hypercard! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      MSDN is the Microsoft Developer Network. From context, I think you mean Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS).

  14. without a person who understands design by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    From the article.

    [Google] as late as 2009, according to its first visual designer, Douglas Bowman, was “without a person at (or near) the helm who thoroughly understands the principles and elements of Design.”

    and also

    Larry Page took over as C.E.O. Besides moving to streamline Google’s increasingly sprawling scope as a company, [and] he immediately launched Project Kennedy, an initiative to give all of Google’s products a more consistent look, so everything would be easier to use.

    Thank God someone's finally looking to the design of Google, so it will no longer be cursed with the most famously easy to use search page that every other search engine on earth chose to imitate. /s

    Seriously, Google has always been a favorite because of its good design. Saying it suffered from a lack of designers is more evidence that designers suck than that Google had a problem.

    1. Re:without a person who understands design by perryizgr8 · · Score: 1

      this. the interface of google's services is becoming nicer to look at and harder to actually use. I dare you to try to sign out from gmail on a cellphone. an android cellphone. open the gmail page in the main browser, and sign in. and sign out is nowhere.

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    2. Re:without a person who understands design by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seriously, Google has always been a favorite because of its good design. Saying it suffered from a lack of designers is more evidence that designers suck than that Google had a problem.

      I take it you only use Google Search, then?

      pro tip - not that hard to build a fucking blank page with a single text box and two buttons. The "design" of the google search page was "speed uber alles," and as such, it was stripped down to bare minimum elements.

      The thing is, it takes a lot more work to build something like Gmail, and without "Design" you end up with a fucking late term abortion of a mess. THAT is what designers work on, and THAT is why services like Gmail and Hangouts are actually becoming usable in their web forms.

    3. Re: without a person who understands design by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yet before those designers came along, gmail was the cleanest and easiest-to-use webmail client around. Or do you not remember when it was up against hotmail and yahoomail?

      Relatedly, if a simple search page were so easy, Google wouldn't have been unique in having one. The difficulty in design is not in something being difficult to execute, but in choosing the right thing to execute.

      Google has a long history of good design execution that has only lately begun to slide.

    4. Re:without a person who understands design by DragonWriter · · Score: 1

      Thank God someone's finally looking to the design of Google, so it will no longer be cursed with the most famously easy to use search page that every other search engine on earth chose to imitate.

      Outside of the search page, many of Google's products UI's haven't been so great, and often related products had radically different UIs for similar functions; having someone in charge of design and an effort at a unified and consistent look and feel across Google products could be a quite good thing (and, IMO, has in terms ofboth consistency and keeping the clutter down as more features are added and more interaction between products; particularly, even core things like the search results page have gotten cleaner over the last few years, despite having more functionality available.

      Seriously, Google has always been a favorite because of its good design.

      True of the homepage, the original results page, and maybe early Gmail (though not really so much gmail or the results page by the time the design initiative was being pushed), but not much else of Google's.

    5. Re:without a person who understands design by mattack2 · · Score: 1

      Seriously, Google has always been a favorite because of its good design. Saying it suffered from a lack of designers is more evidence that designers suck than that Google had a problem.

      You seem to be misunderstanding the article you quoted. It wasn't a lack of *designers*, it was a lack of _consistent_ design.

  15. francis urquhart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    You might say that - I couldn't possibly comment.

  16. Card-carrying member by GerryHattrick · · Score: 1

    Didn't we all have to do virtual 'cards' in 'decks' when offering WML to Nokia phones, in far off days when they were the main force? Didn't seem to last long, but it's still part of my elderly Dreamveaver.

  17. Metro by jader3rd · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The power of a card as a visual-organization metaphor according to Matias Duarte (lead designer of Android), is that 'it makes very clear the atomic unity of things; it's still flexible while creating a kind of regularity.'

    So... they're Live Tiles?

    1. Re:Metro by Sockatume · · Score: 1

      Live Tiles are a kind of card, but not all cards are Live Tiles.

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    2. Re:Metro by schlachter · · Score: 1

      Of course not. They're dashboard Widgets.

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  18. Points for style by Halo5 · · Score: 4, Informative

    I don't really have an opinion on cards one way or another but, as a Southerner, I applaud the proper use of the word "dadgum." I haven't seen that one in a while...

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  19. Everything? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Everything is a file, everything is a card, everything is a widget, everything is an object, a webpage?

    Aren't these all the same damn concept. Come up with a single abstract "item" then treat pretty much everything like that.

    The name is just an easy way to conceptualize it.

    Personally I grasped the "file" as anything, then the "object" came quite naturally. I see a "card" as a particular representation of an abstract "object"

    1. Re:Everything? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Everything is a file
      everything is a card
      everything is a widget
      everything is an object

      BURMA SHAVE

    2. Re:Everything? by Fri13 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I love the old idea "Everything is a file", but I hate that today everything in Windows is something behind complex graphical userinterface and files are hided. Same can be said from iOS, Windows Phone and even from Android.

      That is one reason why I like Unix systems like Linux systems with KDE, as I really get access to files most of the times.

      I want that every email is a single file and that file is renamed by the subject and sender, file metadata includes the file timestamp when it was received and I can manipulate the email with any text editor and even write one with such.

      I love the simplcity what Xerox did in Xerox Star, have a simple outbox and inbox directories on desktop where you can drop files to be sent.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cn4vC80Pv6Q&feature=player_detailpage#t=315s

      It should really be so easy at office, between family and friends computers (in different buildings/countries) just to drag and drop files to other computer. It was impossible at baud modem time but now when many have started to have 1024/512KBits connections and even many has wider bandwith, it would not be problem to drop few text files, few pictures and even couple songs to be transferred to other computer.

      Welcome back SSH and network transparency.

      At some point people should get noticed that all these "cloud services" are just stupid, that saving time and money it is simpler just to go and buy a cheap Plug-PC and attach USB drive to it and let it connect to your home network and you get NAS what to be binded to computers and get access to it from Internet by those who you want to get access. 250-500GB storage would be enough for most students (expect those who are downloading warez etc).

      Or if the space isn't so much required, a cheap 20 buck Android phone with 32-64GB MicroSD card makes wonderful NAS with correct software, it doesn't even require power so much and as you can have attached webcam, microphone and speaker + some other sensors, it can be home security system as well.

    3. Re:Everything? by mattack2 · · Score: 1

      Time to take your medicine, grandpa.

  20. Wait for Apple to patent "cards" UI by TheSkepticalOptimist · · Score: 1

    Wait for iOS 7 to come out with a flat UI and cards and then they will sue Samsung and Google for ripping off their UI "again".

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    1. Re:Wait for Apple to patent "cards" UI by ArcadeMan · · Score: 2
    2. Re:Wait for Apple to patent "cards" UI by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

      Come on, the damn summary already provided an Apple product that shipped for a decade or so that uses this idea.

      I know that this is Slashdot, where nobody actually reads the article, but it's in the summary!

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    3. Re:Wait for Apple to patent "cards" UI by DragonWriter · · Score: 1

      Come on, the damn summary already provided an Apple product that shipped for a decade or so that uses this idea.

      For very large values of "a decade or so" (Hypercard was released in 1987, which is 26 years ago), and very loose definitions of "this idea" (while both have a concept called "cards", if you remember -- or use Google Image Search to discover -- what Hypercard's actual UI was like, there is very little similarity.)

  21. Re:Er...like Powerpoint? Or Windows 8? by alostpacket · · Score: 1

    It's more of a list view/ grid view. I'm curious in particular what do you think is bad UX ?

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  22. Was sorry to see hypercard go. by goffster · · Score: 1

    When you think of devices with small screens,
    the idea of a card paradigm is better than a "page" or a "screen".

    The distinction is important. People intuitively know that a card usually
    expresses a single idea, and that is likely to be part of a larger collection
    of cards (frequently sequential)

    So Kudos to Google, and I hope they can make it work.

  23. 187.325 mm x 82.55 mm by havana9 · · Score: 1

    I think the best size for card to put some data on is 187.325 mm x 82.55 mm. The card should be put face down, nine edge first.

  24. Will he change his name now, by fredrated · · Score: 5, Funny

    to Larry Card?

  25. Cards == Water wings by ElitistWhiner · · Score: 1

    ' Cards' are a superior knowledge design element to wading pool depths of 3 deep for learning. For ocean depths and deeper universes, ' Cards' are water-wings for competitive swimmers.

  26. Everything old is new again by tekrat · · Score: 1

    How long until there's a great game for mobile devices which is a 3-D rendered mystery with puzzles to figure out an an errie, Mysty world to explore.... Ohh, can't wait!

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  27. speak to the browser dude.... by cheekyboy · · Score: 1

    "Google, Signout"

    Got it man!

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  28. Yet Another Remake? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I thought Netflix's "House Of Cards" was pretty good. Don't know why we need another version so soon...

  29. Re:Er...like Powerpoint? Or Windows 8? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's not bad per se, but Microsoft has a long history of making the implementation suck. How many ribbons are going to be on the top, sides, bottom? Plus setting(s) window(s), advanced window(s), etc.

  30. Who cares for you? by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 1

    You're nothing but a pack of cards!

  31. Cards by mpdolan37 · · Score: 1

    Sound a lot like Popup windows to me... and in my humble experience users don't like popup windows. Maybe that was just because a popup usually meant something wrong.

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  32. trello by thegreatemu · · Score: 4, Interesting

    As a good example, you should take a look at trello , which is basically an organization/design/progress list tool, where each atomic activity is represented by a card. I've been using it extensively for about a year now, and the card+board metaphor really seems to make intuitive sense to everyone I've introduced to it.

  33. Been there, done that by Animats · · Score: 2

    If you're running on Windows 7 or Vista, press CTRL, TAB and the "Windows key" at the same time and watch what happens.

    That's "cards" mode. Did you know Windows could do that? Is it useful?

    1. Re:Been there, done that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not working in the Classic Windows theme. My browser did switch tabs, however.

    2. Re:Been there, done that by nickersonm · · Score: 2

      WinKey+Tab is an alternate presentation of the standard Alt+Tab window. I don't find it particularly useful, but I imagine someone does. Perhaps when working with many similar windows?

    3. Re:Been there, done that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's like a shitty Expose clone!
      WTG, MS! next time you copy OSX, try to copy the good parts too!

    4. Re:Been there, done that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As nickersonm already pointed out: it's actually just WIN+TAB, not CTRL+WIN+TAB.

      Try it and then apply desk to forehead.

    5. Re:Been there, done that by DragonWriter · · Score: 1

      If you're running on Windows 7 or Vista, press CTRL, TAB and the "Windows key" at the same time and watch what happens.

      If you try "at the same time", its hard to guess what will happen; if press and hold in the order suggested by the order you put the keys, you get normal Ctrl-Tab behavior.

      If you do Win+Tab you get a display of the open windows that you can page through with Tab as long as you hold the Win key
      If you do Ctrl+Win+Tab (or Win+Ctrl+Tab, but the both modifiers have to come before the Tab) you get a persistent view of the open windows that you can either tab through or select with the mouse.

    6. Re:Been there, done that by DragonWriter · · Score: 1

      As nickersonm already pointed out: it's actually just WIN+TAB, not CTRL+WIN+TAB.

      Win+Tab and Ctrl+Win+Tab are closely related, different effects.

  34. deja vu all over again by peter303 · · Score: 1

    As a cousin of mine is accused of saying. Motifs come, leave and return in computer science as in any other discipline. Bill Atkinsons HyperCard was vey good. Web browser URLs supplanted this several later. But URLs never really captured the geometric metaphors possible in Bill's systems (chains, grids, loop, decks, etc.) .

  35. Android was...designed?!?? by jddj · · Score: 1

    I thought a bus full of icons and widgets collided with a touch UI...

    (this from a daily Android phone and tablet user...)

  36. 3 columns is no good by Parker+Lewis · · Score: 1

    In this G+ UI update, I really hate the 3 columns of cards layout. Very hard to find info. I can switch to 1 column only, but: 1 - Do not works on communities; 2 - The column keeps using a small width, instead of use more side space.

  37. How is this different than Microsoft Live Tiles? by elabs · · Score: 1

    The "Metro" live tiles are small animated cards. They even flip and float like real cards when you interact with them.

  38. Dude by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you have a Google account.
    Go here.
    Once you see that you can see exactly what Google knows, and that you can have control over who can see it you will not worry as much.
    Google has more info than anyone else, but many places have a lot of info on you. Most hide what they know about you and many sell the raw info.
    Google, So far, only uses the info to target ads to you. Not really a bad thing. I would rather see a targeted ad than one for Maxipads or Viagra.
    Google also give you quite a bit of control over it. The major plus though is that they do not split it up and make it difficult for you.
    Google search, Play store, YouTube, Google Plus, Gmail, Drive and more. All those settings, all that information displayed for you to control in one place.
    Name someone else that does that for you.

    Your response indicates that you either misinformed/uninformed or just plain naive. Google has FAR more data collected about you and your activities than what it displays in your History dashboard. Think about the Google properties, search, Plus, Gmail, Apps, Android, ads everywhere, Voice, Blogger, YouTube, Picasa...

    Have you used Google Now? Does your dashboard show when you walk into the airport or any of the other location information that Google constantly collects? Does dashboard show your airline boarding pass? With Google Now, you simply walk into the airport and Now pops up "cards" with flight information boarding pass, car rental and hotel info... It is fantastically cool! The fact that a single source has all that information and that you have little to no control over it is very frightening to me.

    Furthermore, that you disable stuff on the dashboard does not mean that Google does not continue to collect, log, "aggregate", track etc. your activities across the web, store that information for at least 18 months and have it readily available for sale to third parties or disclosure to law enforcement agencies or even subpoenas by INDIVIDUALS.

    Google is the one stop shop for those wishing to view the expansive dossier that Google has amassed about you. Second behind Google is Facebook, even if you NEVER had a Facebook account or visited Facebook.com!

    I have no issue with myriads of people/companies collecting bits of this information in the course of my business and maintaining it in their disparate databases. However, I resent and fear the central all encompassing database that is Google, ripe for the picking. It is a massive tool that someone could use against you. That it hasn't happened, to you, yet doesn't mean that it isn't a threat or that it should be ignored.

    1. Re:Dude by Dishevel · · Score: 1

      Who has the Google one stop shop sold all this info to?
      As far as I know that information is kept by Google. They have never sold any of. They use it to target the ads you buy better.
      They use it to create new products and improve existing ones. They also use that data to kill of some of the stuff they did that I liked. :(
      Those disparate databases you feel so safe with are not so hard to combine. In fact people have brought loads of it together to individually identify people accross many websites building very accurate and scary profiles on people. This data has been and will continue to be SOLD.
      So...That cat is out of the bag.

      Unless you are a full fledged internet master and work hard at staying anonymous and have been doing so for years, internet privacy is not a choice you have.
      You need to use many different VPNs ,change your habits often and stay on a disinformation campaign or you simply do not have privacy when it comes to the internet. Period.

      So you are either misinformed or naive.

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    2. Re:Dude by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And we should just give it up because Google makes it convenient?

      That is what you offer? I don't think I accept. I would rather be naive, but you know what. The data IS out there. I already know. I already know I cannot control it. But I am not going to pretend that being recommended better means of parting with my money so they can profit somehow benefits me.

      People laugh at my old blackberry--there's a reason I didn't upgrade it -- this is one of them. Internet privacy may not be a choice I have, but I surely am not going to make it easier for them. Make them work harder to make money off of me; I won't even use their products for "free".

      I can't always refuse--I can't become a complete recluse. But I don't have to like it, and I don't have to bend over like you suggest.

    3. Re:Dude by Dishevel · · Score: 1

      Bend over for what?
      The info is out there and is is combined and they know A LOT.
      Google has a bit more fully combined, but they do not sell it off. They keep it very private.
      So far they give you ...
      The most benefit from your data.
      The best control over your data.
      The best care over your data.
      The most evil thing they do is ad targeting.
      First. They do not sell the raw data to their advertisers. They only do targeted ads.
      You can like them or dislike them. Some people feel a bit creeped out by it. Some are prefer targeted ads over non targeted.
      You are already being bent over by Bing, Yahoo, Amazon, Ebay, and countless others. Google is at least using some lube.

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  39. Cards = the Google Brand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let's remember where Matias Duarte came from -- Palm after the HP fiasco. If you look at his previous body of work, including WebOS you will see the "card" design theme throughout. In WebOS it was simple, elegant and intuitive. But Palm's hardware was awful and detracted from the whole experience. Google's challenge will be to take their fragmented product lines and unify them on the UI level where appropriate so that google's UI design becomes part of its brand. They're getting there. A big challenge: Android. The open source nature of android has invited fragmentation by both hardware and software vendors -- each manufacturer and developer riffing on the android theme with various hardware configurations and a proliferation of "skins" over the stock UI. The result has been a robust but confusing landscape of products and services that seem to lack a cohesive vision, branding, or strategy that can leave users feeling a little bewildered, as in "Which button do I need to push now to do what I want to do?" Cards might be the answer. Will Android and other google products and services become a reprise of WebOS? Does HP own any IP that Google is using in its new efforts? I guess we'll see.

  40. Hey, anyone remember Digital's Notes? by R.+M.+Dasheff · · Score: 1

    ... that's Digital Equipment Corporation m'boy, the mommy of the VAX (and other stuff.) There was an extensive network (the dearly departed DECNET) wide repository of "knowledge" called "Notes". If I were to squint and stress my gray matter, I might be able to recall that Xerox/PARC had a similar unstructured knowledge base. Now you got me imagining tons of organizations that had these hordes of "useful information." No, that can't be. Sorry. Forget all this stuff.

    1. Re:Hey, anyone remember Digital's Notes? by OldButNotWise · · Score: 1

      That PARC thing would be Notecards, circa 1984.

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  41. Re:How is this different than Microsoft Live Tiles by Parker+Lewis · · Score: 1

    How live titles are different from Wii Channels?

  42. Ahem by WillyWanker · · Score: 1

    *cough*webOS*cough*