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Robotic Bartender Assembles Your Drink, Monitors Alcohol Consumption

First time accepted submitter Sabine Hauert writes in with news about a robotic bartending system called Makr Shakr. "You're at a busy bar. You order your personalized cocktail through a smart phone app; a drink dispenser measures out the beverage according to your instructions and a Kuka robotic arm give it a shake (or stir), while another garnishes it with a slice of lemon; the made-to-order concoction is delivered to your waiting hand via a slick little ten-lane conveyor belt. The 'mixology system' tracks your order from start to finish: a large display behind the bar shows you the number of drinks ahead of yours in the queue, the current wait time, and lets you know when your drink is ready to be picked up. It also shows you what's popular to drink tonight among both the ladies and the gents in the crowd, and lets you influence drinking trends in real-time by incorporating your suggested tweaks on popular recipes."

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  1. Another job is lost. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Head hanging low, the ex-bartender heads down to the welfare office to apply for the entitlement. Your cheap night at the bar is followed by an enormous tax bill.

    1. Re:Another job is lost. by flayzernax · · Score: 1

      Well at least this bar tender will just require some wi-fi and cracking by a script kiddie probably to violate all of it's directives and provide free booze. No personal skills required. Fits right in with the inhumane detachment of people these days.

      Who knows maybe you will be able to just post something on facebook to fool it.

    2. Re:Another job is lost. by flayzernax · · Score: 1

      *from your shiny new iphone

    3. Re:Another job is lost. by pokoteng · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Don't think so. Although it's common to imagine a bartender as someone who just pours drinks, it's just as possible to say a programmer is someone who types stuff into a computer to do some work. It doesn't even scratch the surface of any actual professional work.

      I'd say the robot would be good enough to do pre-mix drinks, for people who don't particularly care for the drink. Sort of like a vending machine. For actual bartending work involving complex cocktail production, where the bartender needs to have extremely high perception, flexibility, stability, control in mixing the drinks in just the perfect timing, temperature, amount, AND on top of that being social and friendly with ability to reply to the drinkers who sit at the bar? Nah, I think bartenders will still hold a job for a long while yet.

      At least, until we get robots that pass turing test. Then we're all fucked.

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    4. Re:Another job is lost. by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

      In some areas self serve beer taps are not legal.

    5. Re:Another job is lost. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Head hanging low, the ex-bartender heads down to the welfare office to apply for the entitlement.

      Not a chance in hell. Not until they make a realistic looking cleavage on that bartender!

    6. Re:Another job is lost. by chromaexcursion · · Score: 1

      Back in my bar hopping days.
      The bars I went back to were the ones I could have a conversation with the bartender, regardless of their sex.
      You don't pick up the bartender. It's nice to chat with them when they aren't busy.
      Interaction is part of the bar scene.
      Hard to do that with a robot

    7. Re:Another job is lost. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      In most states you have to be 18 (or 21) to serve alcohol. So no worries about these newly manufactured robots for a while.

    8. Re:Another job is lost. by DeathElk · · Score: 1

      Hmm, try driving (or worse still, riding a bike) in Port Macquarie for a day and your optimistic outlook on humanity will sadly be inverted.

    9. Re:Another job is lost. by flayzernax · · Score: 2

      In high class establishments or under the radar establishments that are more or less community driven yes.

      At the meat market or in low class establishments. They might as well have fending machines selling whatever drugs are in vogue.

      But if I was to go to a 'bar' I would be genuinely interested in meeting people who know how to order a drink vs "just give me whatever will fuck me up". Haven't seen a place like that in the states in awhile.

    10. Re:Another job is lost. by dgatwood · · Score: 1

      For actual bartending work involving complex cocktail production, where the bartender needs to have extremely high perception, flexibility, stability, control in mixing the drinks in just the perfect timing, temperature, amount, AND on top of that being social and friendly with ability to reply to the drinkers who sit at the bar?

      Well, except for that last part, I'd expect the robots to immediately do a better job. The last part can be handled by an ordinary member of the wait staff without lots of experience at tending bar. This doesn't really remove the need for the people, but it does remove the need for the training and experience, which means the pay is likely to go down.

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    11. Re:Another job is lost. by noh8rz10 · · Score: 1

      all you have to do is get the robot to violate its prime directive, and all heck will break loose. wait sorry, wrong show!

    12. Re:Another job is lost. by viperidaenz · · Score: 2

      What if you assemble the robot out of 18/21 year old surplus equiptment?

    13. Re:Another job is lost. by cayenne8 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Well, I for one, do NOT welcome our robotic bartender overlords.

      I like a real human bartender. One that I get to know, that knows me....at bars I'm a regular at, I like to have them set my usual drink in front of me when I sit down. I like that since I'm a good tipper...I get pretty heavily poured drinks.

      I don't want anyone counting my drinks either.

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    14. Re:Another job is lost. by viperidaenz · · Score: 1

      I believe a lot of work as gone in to fake boobs over the years. Some women even replace their own ones with fake ones.

    15. Re:Another job is lost. by ozmanjusri · · Score: 1

      I'll get my axe!

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    16. Re:Another job is lost. by flayzernax · · Score: 1

      Lol. +1 nerdgasm

    17. Re:Another job is lost. by pokoteng · · Score: 1

      Again, you're underestimating the careful care a (good) bartender has to follow when preparing for drinks. Say for instance, the recipe calls for lemon juice. A typical implementation of a robot would be to have lemon juice prepared earlier, but that has different taste profile to freshly juiced lemon. Then ok, let's have a juicer... except are you going to also roll the lemon carefully first to bring out the juice and flavour before cutting it carefully for the wedge? Or are you going to shred/press it? How are you going to do careful presentation work on the slice, like zesting it? Carefully pinch the skin to bring out the oils from the skin, but not actually put it in the drink?

      And hell, that's just lemons.

      I can't imagine having machines that are yet delicate enough to do this quickly, that are also small enough to fit in a bar, as well as being so versatile. Most likely, for a while yet, only humans can do the task considering how delicate the work is.

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    18. Re:Another job is lost. by jimmydevice · · Score: 1

      YES! I want two TV cameras with the integrated Alcohol Measuring / Intoxication System scanning my every sip with a clock and my weight stats then calling the cops as soon as I rise to take a piss?
        Will the robot continually check your eye reflex, looking for that little JERK!

      Interesting fact: Idiot =Jerk = Yank = Northern USA native.

      Sign me up! I'm into bars and gray bars and penis flavored pina-colada shaped glasses.

    19. Re:Another job is lost. by c0lo · · Score: 1

      *from your shiny new iphone

      Why? If I can do cheaper with a second-hand Android, I'll have more money to spend on whatever else.

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    20. Re:Another job is lost. by jamesh · · Score: 1

      What if you assemble the robot out of 18/21 year old surplus equiptment?

      Or new equipment made from atoms "created" in an exploding sun [mb]illions of years ago?

    21. Re:Another job is lost. by jamesh · · Score: 1

      Well, I for one, do NOT welcome our robotic bartender overlords.

      I like a real human bartender. One that I get to know, that knows me....at bars I'm a regular at, I like to have them set my usual drink in front of me when I sit down. I like that since I'm a good tipper...I get pretty heavily poured drinks.

      I don't want anyone counting my drinks either.

      There will be enough people like this that your needs will be accommodated. Instead of drinking at your local "hipster & automaton" you'll be drinking at the "luddite & technophobe".

    22. Re:Another job is lost. by Big+Hairy+Ian · · Score: 1

      At least, until we get robots that pass turing test. Then we're all fucked.

      I was just hoping for robots with tits :)

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    23. Re:Another job is lost. by parkinglot777 · · Score: 1

      Again, you're underestimating the careful care a (good) bartender has to follow when preparing for drinks. Say for instance, the recipe calls for lemon juice. A typical implementation of a robot would be to have lemon juice prepared earlier, but that has different taste profile to freshly juiced lemon. Then ok, let's have a juicer... except are you going to also roll the lemon carefully first to bring out the juice and flavour before cutting it carefully for the wedge? Or are you going to shred/press it? How are you going to do careful presentation work on the slice, like zesting it? Carefully pinch the skin to bring out the oils from the skin, but not actually put it in the drink?

      And hell, that's just lemons.

      I can't imagine having machines that are yet delicate enough to do this quickly, that are also small enough to fit in a bar, as well as being so versatile. Most likely, for a while yet, only humans can do the task considering how delicate the work is.

      I am sorry but your explanation still does not convince me that these tasks (step-by-step in certain timely manner) can be perfectly done only by humans. If you are arguing about these tasks can't be done by the current technology and/or with the same amount of money that pay to hire bartenders, then I would accept that. Robots are good at doing tasks precisely if it is correctly set up. All you are talking are tasks. Unless you are talking about emotions and communication (the social part), I don't see that it is impossible with any amount of money in the near future.

      Also, speaking of space, your imagination seems to be stuck to an old cranky robot hand in an assembly factory. It is all about design. The brain (CPU) parts can be outside of the bar area (could be behind the counter, the bar wall, etc), and connect the hand with wires toward the ceiling. The bar counter could be design to have specific items in specific locations (somewhat hard-wired style). Therefore, the small enough space you are talking about is irrelevant.

    24. Re:Another job is lost. by oreiasecaman · · Score: 1

      I don't want anyone counting my drinks either.

      How will you pay your bill on your way out then? :)

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    25. Re:Another job is lost. by OhSoLaMeow · · Score: 1

      Come to Boston. At least 75% of the bars I've been to have been the kind you want.

      But does everybody know your name?

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    26. Re:Another job is lost. by OhSoLaMeow · · Score: 1

      I was just hoping for robots with tits :)

      Welcome to Stepford!

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    27. Re:Another job is lost. by Hentes · · Score: 1

      We've had machines that mix softdrinks for decades, if there was demand for an automated bartender they would exist by now.

    28. Re:Another job is lost. by Applekid · · Score: 1

      Back in my bar hopping days.

      The bars I went back to were the ones I could have a conversation with the bartender, regardless of their sex.

      You don't pick up the bartender. It's nice to chat with them when they aren't busy.

      Interaction is part of the bar scene.

      Hard to do that with a robot

      Looks like you'll have to chat up the robot maintenance guy instead.

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    29. Re:Another job is lost. by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Hasn't been the case up to now. First robots acted as 'wheel crankers' for existing machine types (mills, lathes, plasma cutters etc). Robots then replaced low skill, highly repetitive sometimes dangerous jobs. e.g. placing a metal part into an injection molding machine between shots. Running punch presses. etc. They have recently started doing things like picking grapes.

      Robots as used by surgeons today are more like remote high precision hands. No autonomy.

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    30. Re:Another job is lost. by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      If I ever see that asshole from 'Bar Rescue' near any bar I frequent I'm kicking him square in the nuts. No words.

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  2. How realistic can it get? by GodfatherofSoul · · Score: 3, Funny

    Will it pretend to ignore you while hitting on a co-ed at the end of the bar? I really won't feel comfortable unless it tries to short me change and hope I'm too drunk to notice, then give me a dirty look when I skimp on the tip.

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    1. Re:How realistic can it get? by MichaelSmith · · Score: 2

      Hitting on the coffee machine, maybe.

    2. Re:How realistic can it get? by Black+Parrot · · Score: 1

      Will it pretend to ignore you while hitting on a co-ed at the end of the bar?

      pretend?

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  3. Drinks for the ladies by Osgeld · · Score: 4, Interesting

    so how does it know that that drink you just ordered did not get handed to your new friend?

    1. Re:Drinks for the ladies by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

      I assume that v2 will include facial recognition cameras, a body-tracking kinect-style sensor, and full integration with facebook so that the entire internet can know who you are hitting on before the drink has even finished changing hands...

    2. Re:Drinks for the ladies by fatalwall · · Score: 1

      Holding? Why would they put it in the cup when they can put it in the drink and track you for a period of time after the bar as weel. Extra add on to the app for an additional fee. Know who went home with who last night.

    3. Re:Drinks for the ladies by mjwx · · Score: 1

      so how does it know that that drink you just ordered did not get handed to your new friend?

      It pre spikes it for you.

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  4. It does work... saw it at Google I/O After Hours by billylo · · Score: 4, Informative

    One of these systems were in action at Google I/O After Hours Party last night. Pretty neat.

  5. Can it do a age check? by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    Can it do a age check?

    1. Re:Can it do a age check? by Greyfox · · Score: 1

      It can probably check your birthday on your facebook page. That information is probably also encoded on the magstripe or 3D bar-code on your driver's license.

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    2. Re:Can it do a age check? by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 2

      but can it spot a fake ID / useing some ID who does not look like you?

    3. Re:Can it do a age check? by viperidaenz · · Score: 1

      How is it going to check the picture on your license with your face? I doubt its going to have CSI style facial recognition.

    4. Re:Can it do a age check? by Bodero · · Score: 1

      Just have a bouncer at the door and disallow underage patrons.

  6. Can I ... by PPH · · Score: 1

    ... get that with blackjack and hookers?

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    1. Re:Can I ... by lister+king+of+smeg · · Score: 1

      yea but unfortunately all of the hookerdoids look like jude law

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  7. Hey! by Black+Parrot · · Score: 2

    I thought the last story said we had 30 years before this happens.

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    1. Re:Hey! by VortexCortex · · Score: 1

      For someone living in the past, it has been 30 years.
      Welcome to Relativity.

    2. Re:Hey! by king+neckbeard · · Score: 1

      I believe it was claiming 30 years until we almost all don't have jobs. Some people will lose their jobs to robots sooner than others.

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  8. Re:Sounds Arab by Osgeld · · Score: 1

    that's pretty ignorant

  9. Re:Sounds Arab by chromaexcursion · · Score: 1

    sad, I agree.
    ignorant on multiple levels.
    seemingly random malicious hate is pervasive.
    people make hateful comments without considering their impact.
    others do it deliberately, but it's pretty much impossible to tell which is which.
    are you innocently posting something inappropriate, or are you a racist with an agenda?

  10. Re:Oh screw this.... by chromaexcursion · · Score: 1

    epic win.
    I have some friends who are chefs. Have gotten comps from the kitchen.

  11. Comprehension by DeathElk · · Score: 1

    As long as it understands "Keep 'em coming".

    1. Re:Comprehension by mjwx · · Score: 1

      As long as it understands "Keep 'em coming".

      Leave Bottle?
      (Abort | Retry | Fail | Ignore)

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    2. Re:Comprehension by VortexCortex · · Score: 1

      Orgasmatron?

  12. Re:Drinking alcohol is sinful by DeathElk · · Score: 1

    Umm, god doesn't exist, so your statement is null.

  13. no thanks by AxemRed · · Score: 1

    Ok, this might be useful at the airport or something. But I actually like to talk to the bartenders at my favorite bars.

  14. Re:Sounds Arab by mjwx · · Score: 2

    I think "Makr Shakr" might not be the right name for an alcoholic beverage-related product. It sounds vaguely Arabic, and the Arab world still has Prohibition.

    That's OK, we're planning to sell them the militarised version of this robot, the Mastr Blastr.

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  15. That's quite a dystopia you've got there. by __aaltlg1547 · · Score: 5, Funny
    # profanity --maximum

    Jesus Christ on a stick! an iPhone app? Who the fuck wants to order drinks with a motherfucking iPhone app? What's wrong with using my god damned voice to order my fucking drinks? Who wants to know how many other drinks and in the fucking queue? Do you really think I want to know what horse piss the other doucebags are putting in their drinks?

    What makes you imagine I want some machine tracking my drinking habits, much less to be made aware of it?
    # profanity off

    Why would I want to go to a BAR to avoid SOCIAL INTERACTION with OTHER PEOPLE?

    1. Re:That's quite a dystopia you've got there. by eWarz · · Score: 2

      > Why would I want to go to a BAR to avoid SOCIAL INTERACTION with OTHER PEOPLE? Umm...to drink? I do it all the time!

    2. Re:That's quite a dystopia you've got there. by noh8rz10 · · Score: 3, Funny

      What's wrong with using my god damned voice to order my fucking drinks?

      siri, please get me a rum and coke. OK! I have found 12 places named Rumco, 3 of which are fairly close to you. would you like me to get directions for you?

    3. Re:That's quite a dystopia you've got there. by stymy · · Score: 1

      Why? You pay so much more than if you just drink at home.

    4. Re:That's quite a dystopia you've got there. by Applekid · · Score: 1

      Why? You pay so much more than if you just drink at home.

      The extra paid is a finders fee to meeting other similarly buzzed people, and perhaps some of them would want to have sex with you before your night is over.

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    5. Re:That's quite a dystopia you've got there. by __aaltlg1547 · · Score: 1

      Why? You pay so much more than if you just drink at home.

      The extra paid is a finders fee to meeting other similarly buzzed people, and perhaps some of them would want to have sex with you before your night is over.

      So why not talk to them? This is my main point. You are at the bar for the social interaction.

      But the robotic bartender is all wrong for this purpose. Instead, it should be telling you how drunk the OTHER people in the bar are, so you can hit on the chick that's three sheets to the wind and will be easy to talk the underwear off of. A bartender might give you hints about that, but then he might have a conscience. The robotic bartender won't. It can be programmed to sell creeps Coca Cola and that info instead of liquor all night.

  16. Sounds like a dystopian nightmare by electron+sponge · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I prefer my drinks made by human beings, who I can thankfully tip for pouring my two fingers of bourbon to three fingers, and also show my appreciation with a smile and conversation. Anything other than a human is just a vending machine. Remember that the next time you're out, and tip generously. They don't make much money.

    1. Re:Sounds like a dystopian nightmare by king+neckbeard · · Score: 1

      What a bar tender makes depends greatly on the establishment in question. However, as a general rule, they don't make a lot without tips. If they are tipped well, they can make a lot of money on a busy night. Also, you might not realize this, but the bar makes money off of the alcohol, not the bartender.

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    2. Re:Sounds like a dystopian nightmare by r2kordmaa · · Score: 1

      Dystopian future indeed where bar stops taking my money after i get too drunk to handle a drink ordering app on my phone. That would effectively cut my drinking out night in half.

  17. Liability by uvajed_ekil · · Score: 1

    Sounds like a liability. "That car accident wasn't my fault. That particular robotic bartender always manages my alcohol intake perfectly, so it is the one at fault for screwing up and letting me drink a little too much, too fast. It was programmed to cut me off one drink sooner but a bug let it give me one more drink, and made me t-bone a taxi full of nuns on vacation."

    I'll take the bartender I know, who pours me a beer the moment I walk in the door and makes sure I have a ride on the rare occasion when I allow myself to get carried away. He's a better bullshitter than any robot I've met, too.

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    1. Re:Liability by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      Sounds like a liability. "That car accident wasn't my fault. That particular robotic bartender always manages my alcohol intake perfectly, so it is the one at fault for screwing up and letting me drink a little too much, too fast. It was programmed to cut me off one drink sooner but a bug let it give me one more drink, and made me t-bone a taxi full of nuns on vacation."

        I'll take the bartender I know, who pours me a beer the moment I walk in the door and makes sure I have a ride on the rare occasion when I allow myself to get carried away. He's a better bullshitter than any robot I've met, too.

      In a lot of places, that is actually true - the establishment can be found responsible for a DUI incident as well and forced to provide compensation. And yes, the establishment includes commercial public bars as well as hosts of a private party.

      The general reasoning goes that the best person to judge would be the person providing the drinks. It could be the bartender (since all the drinks come fro them), the waitstaff (who carry it to you and can tell if you've perhaps had a bit too much), the hosts (it's their party, they should be encouraging responsible drinking), etc. Because alcohol impairs judgement, so expecting the user to be in control while impaired is generally not feasible.

      So yeah, a robotic bartended will be held to similar standards - first, it knows who had what drinks and thus should have some basic intelligence at saying some guy should not have put back 10 shots in the past hour , and second, the establishment should be monitoring their guests even if the robot is unable to properly determine the inebriation of the patron because the patron is not in a position to properly judge.

      So not only is your bartender doing you a favor by checking your ride, they're covering their ass as well because the family of the kid you ran over accidentally can sue the bar you went to for damages.

  18. Re:Sounds Arab by noh8rz10 · · Score: 1

    no, tepples is cool, he's been around a while and has good thoughts. a tone-deaf joke perhaps, but not ill-intentioned.

  19. Re:Oh screw this.... by Grimbleton · · Score: 1

    I like the my-family-member-owns-this-bar experience. They make you think you're going to actually get to pay one of these days, but PSYCHE! Dropping another free meal on you.

  20. lets hope the hackers don't get into this by Chrisq · · Score: 1

    "lets you influence drinking trends in real-time by incorporating your suggested tweaks on popular recipes."

    Roofie for the cute blonde girl

  21. Re:Drinking alcohol is sinful by hawkinspeter · · Score: 1

    If drinking alcohol is so abhorred by god, then why didn't he just make us immune to it? If we didn't feel the effects, then we wouldn't drink it. Man, that god bloke is seriously stupid - he even wired our retinas back-to-front and gave us badly designed backs for standing upright.

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  22. Re:Drinking alcohol is sinful by petman · · Score: 1

    In my 36 years of life, I have never drunk even one drop of alcohol. Don't blame God for your own lack of willpower.

  23. Re:Drinking alcohol is sinful by hawkinspeter · · Score: 1

    I don't see anything wrong with drinking alcohol (in moderation) and see no reason to abstain, especially when human society has used brewing for thousands of years to make water safe to drink.

    I don't blame god for anything as he's clearly some kind of fairy story to scare kids - similar to the boogeyman.

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  24. Re:Drinking alcohol is sinful by petman · · Score: 1

    So you admit that to drink or not to drink is a matter of choice. Thus your reasoning in your sentence, "If we didn't feel the effects, then we wouldn't drink it" is false.

  25. Re:Drinking alcohol is sinful by king+neckbeard · · Score: 1

    Actually, you probably have. If you've ever used mouthwash, drank soda, ate bread, or been breathed on by someone who is drunk, you probably have imbibed at least a drop's worth of alcohol. These days, even pumping gas would get you over that threshold.

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  26. Re:Drinking alcohol is sinful by hawkinspeter · · Score: 1

    Everything we do is a matter of choice. I think the idea of some kind of trickster god is abhorrent - he makes creatures that enjoy the effects of alcohol and then tells them (in some versions) that they're not allowed to drink it.

    It's like the garden of Eden: eat whatever you want, but not THAT tree over there. That tree - the one I'm pointing at. It's got the most delicious fruit that will immediately give you knowledge, but I forbid it. No, not the one on the left - this one here. It sure looks tasty, but NO!

    And he was saying that to a woman! He was either extremely stupid or really spiteful.

    Also, if alcohol had no effect on humans, would it still be banned in some religions? Is it inherently evil, or is this a case of god creating a specific effect just to fuck with us?

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  27. Can I? by Phoeniyx · · Score: 1

    tip it a few hexadecimals in knowledge to jump ahead in the queue?

  28. not bad but inefficient. by nimbius · · Score: 1

    Sure, its fun to watch. just remember when the first coffee was brewed 30 years ago by a machine we all stood in wonderment at what appeared to be a robot future. Turns out the final product sitting in the breakroom of most offices grinds out a dull black water, comes in a box form factor, and occasionally shits cups all over the floor. its generally avoided by all but a fanatic few who pump 60 cents into it each morning and have never had a cup of starbucks. "Flair" and attractiveness are what make a bartender in many situations, same as a barista. Speaking as a former bartender, I have a few problems with this layout:

    its inefficient: we move drinks, we look good doing it, we do NOT spill the product across the cup from the shaker as the machines did, for a number of reasons. 1. your inventory on the floor costs you money and customers. 2. all those sugary mixed drinks become a hellish glue to clean up eventually. 3. Fruit flies multiply inexorably with spillage and get you shut down by the health department/any competing bar that lodges a complaint very quickly. 4. customers dont want wet sticky plastic cups.
    its a static load: mixes are pre-portioned, all drinks must be shaken, garnish is not provided. this is basically an electronically assembled pre-mix cocktail that will invariably piss off 2-3 customers an hour with its inability to do 'doubles' or 'sidecars' or any other kitshy stuff customers just want out of habit. a few regulars might take double lime, no lime, or float a splash of cranberry juice. ive had to do beer-mosas on sunday when normally mimosas suffice. beermosa is not in the black book where i presume the machines recipes are sourced.
    account for fault conditions: what if we cant make a drink anymore? you're still selling so you need to improvise. offer other options to customers, listen to what they like, be creative and come up with something they will enjoy. "We dont do that" or "Empty" is the fastest way to lose a bar.

    that having been said: where do i want this machine? I want it on saturday night at the front of the bar with a preset load of cocktails that people commonly order that, normally, i pour out of a mix. tequila sunrise, margarita, any mixed sugary shot, etc...I also might want it to make drinks that are very dangerous (check out the blue blazer sometime, it requires pouring flaming bourbon between two steel mugs to mix it.), and handle volatile liquors that some bars cannot procure insurance for (151 requires additional fire insurance for example.) im not sure i want it slinging beer. not that it cant, just that beer has a strange rate of return where ive found often customers want to "switch" because they dont like a certain new craft brew theyre trying.

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  29. Names ending in -akr by tepples · · Score: 1

    I had no hate in mind. It just made me think of Abu Bakr.

  30. MOOLTIPASS by StingyJack · · Score: 1

    All these comments and not one single reference to The FIfth Element's bartender in the ship port. ... YOU WANT SOME MORE?

  31. Re:Don't give up hope yet. by Applekid · · Score: 1

    Until they make a robot you can see commiserates with you when you tell him about how you're only there because your wife's mother's in town, or her aunt Flo is visiting and she wants you to go down on her... and convince you he truly understands, and that he's been there himself... the bar tender's job is safe. Also, until a robot can determine you're drunk, and ensure it's not serving booze to an under-age drinker... etc., this is just a toy.

    In the era of ubiquitous data mining, all those situations are knowable, and a display or speaker will be able to specially craft the exact phrase you want to hear, but aren't consciously aware of what you want to hear.

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  32. Not a replacement for a bartender... by rocket+rancher · · Score: 1

    ...just an augmentation. And it neatly avoids the uncanny valley by not even remotely resembling our upright, bipedal, bi-laterally symmetric physiognomy. My friend owns three bars here in the old pueblo -- a college-centric meat market within stumbling distance of the UofA campus, a Cheers-type bar&grill in one of the most affluent residential districts in the city, and a trendy techno bar on 4th Avenue, which is Tucson's own Haight-Ashbury. The reception this system would get would largely depend on how it is wrapped for the patrons at each of these uniquely distinctive venues. I could see it being tucked away out of sight at the bar&grill, delivering the drinks to a mini-skirted waitress for the last mile delivery to the patron. Patrons at the bar&grill go there for (good!) food and drink, but also to schmooze with wealthy UofA alumni who have returned to their college town to dabble in local university and city politics. They will take passing notice of the pretty girl delivering their cocktails, but would not be interested in the slightest about the details of the guy (or robot) mixing their drinks. Ditto the meat market: patrons at the meat market are there to score, and my friend deliberately hires attractive female servers exclusively from the local topless clubs' labor pool to set the right kind of ambiance. It probably wouldn't have to be out of sight there, just out of harm's way. But it would probably pay-off in spades at the techno bar. Every techno trend on the planet eventually makes its way through a college town, and this system would be de rigueur, along with the live dub-step acts and wall-sized projection screens full of anime and machinima.

    I think this system could have a beneficial ROI in these three diverse venues, so it could probably be beneficial in many others, as long as the proprietor incorporates it in a way that doesn't annoy his regular patrons or scare off potential ones.