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Motion To Delay Sanctions Against Prenda Lawyers Denied

rudy_wayne writes with news that the Prenda lawyers recently sanctioned by a federal judge are starting to face consequences. From the article: "On Friday, Paul Hansmeier, a Minnesota attorney who has been pointed to as one of the masterminds of the Prenda copyright-trolling scheme, filed an emergency motion to stay the $81,000 sanctions order while he and his colleagues could mount an appeal. Today the appeals court flatly denied his motion. Two appellate judges signed this order, and it gives Hansmeier the option to make a plea for delay with the district court judge. That would be U.S. District Judge Otis Wright, the judge who sanctioned Hansmeier in the first place. Hansmeier is also getting kicked off a case he was working on that was totally unrelated to Prenda's scheme of making copyright accusations over alleged pornography downloads. On Friday, the 9th Circuit Commissioner ordered Hansmeier, in no uncertain terms, to withdraw from a case involving Groupon since he has been referred to the Minnesota State Bar for investigation. The commissioner has delayed Hansmeier's admission to the 9th Circuit because of Wright's order, which refers to Wright's finding of 'moral turpitude.'"

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  1. You know what I just realized? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I need a bigger monitor. I had a hard time reading all that with the massive erection the summary gave me. Seriously, this is fucking awesome. We're talking, distilled, 180 proof justice-porn here.

    1. Re:You know what I just realized? by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Funny

      The extra amusing thing about the unrelated case is that he is representing his wife. "Sorry honey, not 'attorney-client relations' today, I'm under investigation for moral turpitude unbecoming the profession..."

    2. Re:You know what I just realized? by Kaenneth · · Score: 2

      I think having sex with a client falls under moral turpitude most of the time.

    3. Re:You know what I just realized? by Nidi62 · · Score: 2

      having sex with a client

      They are married, so I doubt that is an issue

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    4. Re:You know what I just realized? by AJWM · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah, most of the time the lawyer screws the client without actual sex.

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    5. Re:You know what I just realized? by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 3, Funny

      I need a bigger monitor. I had a hard time reading all that with the massive erection the summary gave me. Seriously, this is fucking awesome. We're talking, distilled, 180 proof justice-porn here.

      Hello, this is Prenda Law. It has come to our attention that you've been watching Prenda-lawyer's-hard-first-day-in-prison porn without having paid for it. Please kindly send $4,500 to our bank account or we'll have to tell your neighbors about it.

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  2. More shady business by amicusNYCL · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you've been following the coverage on Popehat or FightCopyrightTrolls, you'll know that the Groupon class-action case is another one of Hansmeier's schemes to make money. He has a few cases where someone in his family files as an objector in a class-action case at the 11th hour (meaning that they are going to hold the case up and not let it settle, unless they get a nice payout of course), and then Hansmeier himself acts as the attorney for the objector. There are theories that he simply files the objections himself under a family member's name, and then proceeds to represent them. The objector in the Groupon case is Padraigin Browne, Hansmeier's wife (and a patent attorney). He's also represented his father, another attorney, in other class-action cases. I like how the judge ordered Hansmeier to provide proof to the court that he notified his client (wife) that he wasn't eligible to represent her.

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    1. Re:More shady business by newcastlejon · · Score: 2

      Great, another family of lawyers. Any chance we could pit them against WBC and kill >0 bird with 1 stone?

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    2. Re:More shady business by meerling · · Score: 2

      Even the WBC has some standards and morality.
      Countable on one hand and needing a microscope to view, but still.
      Besides, they may enter into a symbiotic relationship if forced together, so it's better for those parasites to be dealt with separately.

    3. Re:More shady business by Runaway1956 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Standards?

      1 watch newspapers for high profile deaths
      2 show up at funeral
      3 stage shockingly objectionable protest
      4 be assaulted and/or insulted
      5 file suit against grieving relatives for violation of civil rights

      It's hard to see that WBC has any standards, or that those nonexistent standards might be any higher than the Prenda lawyers. I'd like to see someone like Judge Wright get hold of the WBC bunch.

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    4. Re:More shady business by Firethorn · · Score: 4, Informative

      Westborough Baptist Church

      It's the fundies who like to picket funerals saying that the soldiers are dying because the USA supports gays too much. And by 'supports gays too much' I mean 'fails to burn them at the stake or something'.

      Most of the family are apparently lawyers and there are rumors they finance their protests by suing anybody who violates their 'rights'.

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    5. Re:More shady business by Firethorn · · Score: 4, Interesting

      here are theories that he simply files the objections himself under a family member's name, and then proceeds to represent them.

      You know, this makes me wonder what goes on with these types of lawyer. I mean, as I've aged I've realized that not all lawyers are scummy, it's a bit like bad cops - one scummy lawyer slimes an awful lot of other lawyers. Thing is, they always seem to be experienced lawyers, and generally get smacked by the 'disbarment' stick sooner or later, normally fairly quickly(within a couple years, out of a possible 40 year career).

      So is it a case of where they start out following the ethics guidelines the classes taught them, but end up pushing the edge and pushing the edge until they go too far, with the process generally taking years, as they slowly become disillusioned and greedy?

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  3. Re:Separate issues by techno-vampire · · Score: 2, Informative

    So, because the judiciary is very conservative, his appointment is being suspended until the allegations are cleared.

    They're not doing this because the judiciary is very conservative; some judges are, some are very liberal. It's just because our court system has centuries of experience with this type of thing and knows that judges are like Caesar's wife. They not only need to avoid doing anything that would call their impartiality into question, they have to be above suspicion. Being investigated on a "morals" charge could jeopardize every case he works on because his integrity would become an issue on appeal, and the easiest way to avoid that is by not having him hear cases where the charges against him might become significant.

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  4. Re:Separate issues by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Okay, first, the Judge who originally told Prenda to shove it has come under fire for pornography downloads

    Huh? I didn't read the article (naturally!) but I didn't get anything like that out of our summary. Wright's finding of "moral turpitude" refers to his judgement of Hansmeier. Hansmeier is getting kicked off of a completely different case (about Groupon) because the comissioner of the court presiding over that case won't let a lawyer with "moral turpitude" bring the case into his court. The original Prenda case was about porn downloads, and that set the whole thing off.

  5. Re:"From the article" by rudy_wayne · · Score: 2

    So?

  6. Mmmm... by Moppusan · · Score: 2

    The roasted flesh of sanctioned lawyers is like sweet, tangy, smokey, savory BBQ baby back ribs. I just made myself hungry. More lawyers on the coals!

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  7. Not so great summary by Dachannien · · Score: 4, Informative

    The summary didn't do a good job of explaining the appellate court order in this case. The judges were essentially saying that the issue was not ripe for consideration at their level, because Hansmeier needs to make the request in district court and have it denied there first. He can appeal the district court's refusal to issue a stay, but only after that decision is actually made.

    1. Re:Not so great summary by wisnoskij · · Score: 2

      If I were the judges here I would not be worrying about his obviously lacking morals as much as his completely lacking law competency.

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  8. Like a cold lager on a muggy afternoon by oldhack · · Score: 2

    Good one, judges. Please follow it thru to the completion and make an example out of these vile cretins.

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  9. Re:Separate issues by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Um, what are you talking about?

    To my knowledge, no allegations have been made against Judge Wright.

  10. Re:Separate issues by girlintraining · · Score: 2

    They're not doing this because the judiciary is very conservative; some judges are, some are very liberal. It's just because our court system has centuries of experience with this type of thing and knows that judges are like Caesar's wife.

    When I used the word 'conservative', I was describing their reaction, not their political views. Conservative, as in excercising an abundance of caution, not conservative as in prudish.

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  11. Slashdot "Quote of the Day" as I was reading this- by They'reComingToTakeM · · Score: 2

    "Will this never-ending series of PLEASURABLE EVENTS never cease?"