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Best Buy To Carve Out Space For Microsoft Stores

UnknowingFool writes "Best Buy and Microsoft will launch 600 Microsoft stores within Best Buy retail locations in a store-within-a-store concept. The Microsoft stores will occupy 1500-2000 sq ft within each location. The terms of the deal are not announced, but I assume it benefits both as Best Buy would likely charge rent to help with declining revenue. For Microsoft, they may get cheaper facilities than building their own stores. The last I heard, MS had a very ambitious plan to launch hundreds of stores a year. I have doubts about the success of this venture, considering anecdotally almost every MS store I've seen in my travels was nearly empty. Since they all were located near Apple stores, the stark difference in foot traffic was apparent. The only exception was the MS store near Redmond, which had a decent crowd."

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  1. Juxtaposed store signs? by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Best Buy ... Microsoft" - mmm, how subtle.

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    1. Re:Juxtaposed store signs? by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 5, Funny

      That would have to be either a very large Best Buy store or a really small isle. Do they have outlets in Polynesia?

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    2. Re:Juxtaposed store signs? by TWiTfan · · Score: 2

      With BestBuny now hosting Apple stores, Samsung stores, Microsoft stores, and god knows how many more; I'm wondering if there will be any space left for me to just buy the goddamned blu-ray movie and ink cartridge that I came for.

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    3. Re:Juxtaposed store signs? by idontgno · · Score: 4, Funny

      Actually, I see the opportunity for armed border skirmishes betwen mutually hostile enclaves of corporate territory under a single roof as a great opportunity to sell popcorn.

      "Best Buy... the Balkans right in your neighborhood!"

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    4. Re:Juxtaposed store signs? by Deadstick · · Score: 4, Funny

      Whoooossshhh...

    5. Re:Juxtaposed store signs? by binarylarry · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Haha you shop at BestBuy!

      Everyone point and laugh!

      BTW Would you like to buy a service plan with that ink cartridge or movie?

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    6. Re:Juxtaposed store signs? by hawguy · · Score: 2

      With BestBuny now hosting Apple stores, Samsung stores, Microsoft stores, and god knows how many more; I'm wondering if there will be any space left for me to just buy the goddamned blu-ray movie and ink cartridge that I came for.

      Just buy them from Amazon instead. I haven't set foot in a Best Buy in years. Based on the number of times my parents visit the store (they bought their digital camera, a laptop and a tablet there), BestBuy must cater to an older demographic and once that demographic fades away, I'm not sure who will shop at BB.

    7. Re:Juxtaposed store signs? by homey+of+my+owney · · Score: 4, Funny

      Haha, yes. I'm spelling impaired. But it's much better than my peach inspediment.

    8. Re:Juxtaposed store signs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Best Buy is OK for some stuff. For example, if you need a gold-plated HDMI monster cable which is officially certified for your video game console.

    9. Re:Juxtaposed store signs? by Penguinisto · · Score: 3, Funny

      If there's a Microsoft isle I'd hate to be shipwrecked there.

      ...unless you're comatose, drinking fresh mango juice, with goldfish shoals nibbling at your toes?

      (Problem is, Mr. Ballmer is too frickin' big to be Rimmer... now the guy running the XBox division? He'd fit.)

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  2. Slogan opportunity by mevets · · Score: 4, Funny

    Away from the maddening crowds.

  3. Windows 9? by AuralityKev · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Now they just need a decent product to sell in that store-within-a-store.

    1. Re:Windows 9? by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 3, Funny

      Sounds like a good place to sell Hyper-V to me.

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    2. Re:Windows 9? by MiniMike · · Score: 4, Funny

      Since it's in BB, I'm guessing the profit will come from extended warranties and $35 deluxe DVD cases.

    3. Re:Windows 9? by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 2

      Zune RT?

    4. Re:Windows 9? by TWiTfan · · Score: 2

      Hey, you're going to need a Monster HDMI cable with that new Xbox. With gold-plated connectors and oxygenated wiring, it really makes the picture look its best!

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    5. Re:Windows 9? by David_Hart · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Now they just need a decent product to sell in that store-within-a-store.

      Xbox One + Accessories
      Surface + Accessories
      Nokia Smart Phones

      There, I've given you three decent products. Argue all you want about flaws and capabilities but they are still solid products that will meet the needs of 90% of their users (i.e. non-geeks). If you meant a blockbuster product.... well... that's a different story....

    6. Re:Windows 9? by bmo · · Score: 5, Funny

      >With gold-plated connectors and oxygenated wiring,

      And conductors rubbed between the breasts of virgins.

      Too bad the virgins look like me

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    7. Re:Windows 9? by Penguinisto · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Xbox One + Accessories
      Surface + Accessories
      Nokia Smart Phones

      He said "decent". It also helps if they exist and are for sale.

      Seriously...
      The first isn't even RTM yet (and the gamers are currently screaming about how they're all gonna buy PS4s because of the stupid DRM).
      The second? Which one? The one that can actually run "my Windows software", or the one whose screen/UI looks just like it but doesn't run "my Windows software"?
      The third? Okay, maybe, if it didn't have to compete with those massive Android and iOS ecosystems.

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  4. Inferiority complex by intermodal · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Microsoft seems to have this strange idea that their name carries as much weight as Apple's in the public eye. People go to the Apple Store because Apple knows their products inside-out and in the eyes of their customers, the products sell themselves.

    Microsoft, on the other hand, has users that use their products because they think they have to, and has no way to match Apple's ability to offer the entire current Apple world under one small roof.

    If Microsoft wants to be the company that people are excited to see what their new product will be, they've got a long way to go towards repairing their image. They'll have to become an innovative company that brings new things to the table. And no, I don't mean support for new things that someone announced something just like it months or years ago.

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  5. An "Idiot Bar" in every MS store? by KrazyDave · · Score: 2, Funny

    This is going to be fun to watch!

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  6. Yo dawg by BitwizeGHC · · Score: 5, Funny

    I heard you like electronics stores so we put an electronics store in an electronics store so you can impulse-buy while you're impulse-buying.

    I'm waiting for the Starbucks inside the Microsoft Store inside the Best Buy.

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    1. Re:Yo dawg by Bill+Dimm · · Score: 3, Funny

      I'm waiting for the Starbucks inside the Microsoft Store inside the Best Buy.

      Marketing genius! Finally, an answer to the question: "Why the f*ck would anyone walk into a Microsoft store."

  7. I walked by a "Microsoft Store" the other day by Rob+the+Bold · · Score: 5, Funny

    A couple weeks ago, I walked by a Microsoft store. First time I'd seen one. It looked nice and peaceful, a respite from the crowds of shoppers outside.

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    1. Re:I walked by a "Microsoft Store" the other day by girlintraining · · Score: 2

      A couple weeks ago, I walked by a Microsoft store. First time I'd seen one. It looked nice and peaceful, a respite from the crowds of shoppers outside.

      Yeah, I walked into one, once. The salesman immediately tried to get me to dance in front of a Kinect. The results gathered more of a crowd than the Kinect ever could. I'm not sure what this says more about... that white girls can't dance, or that Kinects just aren't that interesting.

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  8. big box stores are dying by cashman73 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I think this is clearly a sign that the old "Big Box" stores of the 90s and 00s are on the way out. Best Buy is slowly realizing that they'll never be able to compete with Amazon on price, and they don't want to serve as Amazon's showroom, where customers check out the products and head online to actually buy it. But they realize this trend, and how Apple can have a showroom in their Apple stores, and not care if someone ultimately buys it in the Apple store or on Apple.com (or even an Apple product in Best Buy) -- Apple gets paid either way. So by teaming with Microsoft to get them to put a store inside their store, they get to charge them rent, and Microsoft gets paid whether the customer buys the Microsoft product in the store or later on online. I'd almost expect Best Buy to do this with other companies, like having a Sony Store inside, which would ultimately effectively make Best Buy a "mini-mall" of electronics instead of a stand-alone store competing against amazon and walmart (two companies that are difficult to compete against). Microsoft could be a guinea pig here.

  9. Makes sense... by Bill_the_Engineer · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They did a similar thing for Apple. I don't know why BestBuy changing its floor plan is newsworthy.

    Next thing you know they may have a game section with all the Xbox related stuff separated from the Playstation and Wii stuff, or better yet have a mobile phone store within a store... oh wait.

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    1. Re:Makes sense... by bmo · · Score: 2

      >They did a similar thing for Apple. I don't know why BestBuy changing its floor plan is newsworthy.

      I think it's newsworthy because it's taken them so long to understand this concept.

      Before the BB "Apple store within a store," Apple had its own "stores" in outlets like CompUSA and such. We're talking at least 15-18 years of this sort of thing that Apple has been doing (as far as I can remember going into CompUSA anyway), and it's just *now* that Microsoft is doing it.

      Late to the game/dollar short/whatever aphorism you want to put here. Just some more "me too" stuff from the Land of Ballmer.

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    2. Re:Makes sense... by puto · · Score: 2

      Actually, there was no need back then for a store because you could only buy an OS, a keyboard, Office, or a joytstick. Apple sold their own hardware. If you want to compare Apples to Apples. Now Microsoft sells hardware. The Xbox, Tablets, Kinect, phones, so they have a more viable hardware market than they used to. Hardware that would benefit with a rep there.

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  10. Re:Interesting by MiniMike · · Score: 2

    ...Best Buy and MS both have to make some hefty changes in order to stay in business long term.

    Are you saying that Microsoft itself is in need of a reboot?

    Seems quite fitting.

  11. Re:Interesting by localman57 · · Score: 2

    Don't be so pessimistic. That's what people said about Sears/K-Mart. I'm not saying it's not a really, really bad idea. I'm just saying don't be pessimistic in general. You know, generally.

  12. Anonmolously high foot traffic at that location... by cruff · · Score: 3, Funny

    I have doubts about the success of this venture, considering anecdotally almost every MS store I've seen in my travels was nearly empty. Since they all were located near Apple stores, the stark difference in foot traffic was apparent. The only exception was the MS store near Redmond, which had a decent crowd."

    Probably local MS employees being forced to get a hand stamp by a physical visit to that MS store to get their paychecks. Thus MS can point to at least one store with a high foot traffic.

  13. Re:ridiculous logic by DuckDodgers · · Score: 2

    You run your own shop? I see dozens of little computer shops all over, and I wonder how they stay open. I imagine most people smart enough to avoid Best Buy for PC purchases, parts, and tech support would also be smart enough to put everything together on their own.

    Do you make a good business out of it, or is it a struggle to make ends meet?

  14. It's just weird by ArcadeMan · · Score: 2

    Best Buy is turning into a shopping mall itself.

  15. Empty by Richy_T · · Score: 2

    Will it come with tumbleweeds like the Apple section?

  16. In related news ... by PPH · · Score: 2

    ... Dante is adding another circle to Hell.

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  17. Re:Simple Inferiority by tlhIngan · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The details of the deal were not disclosed. Is the MicroSoft stand going to draw customers to BestBuy, or the other way around? Is it a synergistic cross pollination that will better service consumer desire?

    It appears MicroSoft now have to sublet the non-Apple section of the Best Buy computer department. That and a bunch of PR drivel.

    Quite possibly it'll help bring higher end PCs to Best Buy. If you go there, you'll find a stunningly large number of people still go to best buy and purchases PCs there. Then look at what they sell - cheap ass $500 and below PCs make up the vast majority of what's on display, and what isn't, is basically because they're Apple Macs.

    The Ultrabooks have helped somewhat, at least to bring higher end machines in.

    Microsoft does however bring in something good - and that's the "Microsoft Premium PC" - basically it's to PCs what Nexus is to Android - a clean, fast Windows experience that has no trial crap and other stuff (even using tools like PC Decrapifier doesn't quite get rid of everything), and clean restore discs and everything (nothing's worse than having to reinstall and just getting the crap back).

    But what's happening is Best Buy is actually evolving - they know most of their traffic is showrooming traffic, so they're evolving into being THE showroom. They know they can't compete with Amazon and other online retailers, so they don't. They'll take payments of rent from manufacturers who get to show off their stuff and people come in to look (with perhaps a small amount for those who really need it now), and let Amazon etc., fight for the actual sale. Because really, Best Buy has an existing network of stores that no manufacturer, not even Apple, can hope to match, but to whom bring in enough customers who want to look at stuff before they buy. Plus they can bring out the latest and greatest ASAP for show - it's up to the manufacturers to ship the demos ahead of time.

    That I think is what is happening. The first three tenants are Apple, Samsung and Microsoft. But soon others will want in. Bonus points if the manufacturers can even handle returns and exchanges on the spot instead of obnoxiously complex return and exchange procedures (which can be nasty - like warranty exchanges require shipping to some warehouse in China - even if your product is DOA).

  18. Amen to that. Sweat the small stuff. by bdwoolman · · Score: 2

    The little stuff is their profit center. Sometimes Best Buy has some attractive deals on consumer electronics. (Or at least they had in days gone by. Been a while.) So, say, you just got a great deal on the TV or the PC. The sales guy suggests you throw in a patch cable or two -- even generic ones. A power cord. A surge protector. All this crap is marked up to the stratosphere, but you don't think about it because you are so chuffed with the steal you just got on the big ticket item. But check. Two dollar power cables for $14.00 etc. It's horrible. Really. I once paid nearly twenty dollars for a Sansa data cable (Don't ask. My wife was involved.) The point is that by the time you are are done with the ancillary crap the store has made its true profit.

    By the way, it's a time-honored play for a discount retailer. You get a good deal on a suit. Then the salesman walks over with a couple of shirts and maybe a good looking tie. Little stuff and you think "Why the hell not?" When you should think "Hell no."

    If you need patch cables and power cords on a same-day basis try a little mom and pop computer store. Generally I have found much better deals on little stuff in these places. Not as cheap as a net retailer, but way down from a Big Box discounter. Counter intuitive to go small I know. But marking up small items is often how these big discounters make money. And, hey, the little guys can use the business.

    PS I used to wear suits. But not any more... bitches. Not any more.

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    1. Re:Amen to that. Sweat the small stuff. by Grishnakh · · Score: 3, Informative

      I once paid nearly twenty dollars for a Sansa data cable (Don't ask. My wife was involved.)

      I think wives are a big reason Best Buy is still around.

      My wife wanted a laptop several years ago; I wanted to get one off the internet, but she didn't want to wait for shipping. So off to Best Buy we went, even though I hated that store. We got a demo unit that worked fine in the store, but a day or two after we got it home, the monitor started acting flaky. So we brought it back, and they refused to take it as a defective return (because when they looked at it, it was working fine), but only as a return/refund. But because it had some software I had installed on it, they wanted to charge some ridiculous fee for Geek Squad to uninstall the software so they could resell it (seriously: instead of wiping and reinstalling, they were going to just resell the machine as-is. I could have installed keyloggers or other malware for the next customer to be victimized by). So I had to stand there and uninstall it myself to avoid this fee. Then, while I was in the middle of this process, the monitor finally gave out completely; when they saw that, they went ahead and refunded our money on the spot, but the experience was an ordeal.

      After that, my wife swore off ever buying from Best Buy again, and let me buy a laptop from Newegg.