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YouTube Removes Video of Reactions To Being Videoed

theodp writes "To follow-up on an earlier Slashdot post, GeekWire reports that YouTube has removed Surveillance Camera Man's latest video of people's sometimes-violent reactions to being videoed, citing its policy of prohibiting content designed to harass, threaten or bully ("This video has been removed as a violation of YouTube's policy prohibiting content designed to harass, bully or threaten"). In a neat coincidence, the YouTube ban comes just after similar complaints were lodged against Google Glass. 'Some people also seem to feel threatened by Google Glass,' Philip De Cortes wrote in Google Glass Will Fail. 'They wonder if they're being recorded, and they feel like the tool could be used against them in some way.'"

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  1. Really by jasper160 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    People should be this upset about the government doing this too. CCTV's are popping up everywhere, even in rural US cities.

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    1. Re:Really by NoNonAlphaCharsHere · · Score: 5, Funny

      I know. It's getting to be that the only time we have any privacy is when we're online.

    2. Re:Really by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I find it funny that we have police CCTV everywhere--there's two on my street watching my house wtf?--but people bitch about Google Glass. Yet people don't whine about dash cams or cameras in cell phones?

      Also the people claiming Google Glass will fail as a product because people don't like the idea of being videoed are dumb. The person buying Google Glass isn't being videoed, so he doesn't have an incentive to not have it; it's everyone else who has an incentive for him to not have it. That doesn't stop the product from selling. If I become a billionaire, a lot of people will be pissed at my private yacht because they have wallets as small as their penises; but their penis envy won't stop me from owning a private yacht. (The fact that private yachts are boring as hell might--wtf am I going to do with a yacht?)

    3. Re:Really by geekmux · · Score: 2

      People should be this upset about the government doing this too. CCTV's are popping up everywhere, even in rural US cities.

      There is a considerably large difference in a civilian wearing Google Glass and a government agency putting up cameras.

      I can merely walk away or choose not to be around the person wearing Glass...or perhaps kindly ask them to remove them or otherwise disable it.

      People are upset not because government agencies are doing the same thing, but mainly because there's not a damn thing citizens can do to stop it, or prevent massive abuse.

      Don't worry though, I'm sure we'll "create jobs" at battery and motor factories all over the country building tens of thousands of unmanned drones, which will be advertised as a "win" for the job market and the economy to mask the ulterior motive.

    4. Re:Really by Internal+Modem · · Score: 1

      Most people don't buy things to become social pariahs (which describes your Google Glass owner above).

    5. Re:Really by fibonacci8 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The solution is to purchase music videos of Prince and have them playing clearly visible by the police monitoring. It's illegal for them to make copies, and it's not illegal for you to display the content within your home... for now.

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    6. Re:Really by IndustrialComplex · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      You are modded funny, but you aren't actually wrong.

      I've long complained that you either have to be very wealthy, or willing to walk (and be wealthy) to avoid waiving your rights to something as fundamentally simple as a trip from New York to LA. The logistics involved (not driving to avoid 'implied consent' and other rights removing stipulations) are enormous even if you just put on a pair of shoes and decided to walk. (12 hour days of 4mph walking would take you 41 days to go 2000miles)

      However, online at least, you can take some precautions which sacrifice convenience, but not to the insane levels that your physical presence would require. Obviously if you have the full force of the government looking for you specifically, it's not going to be simple, but in general through the use of VPNs, public access points, and a few other techniques, it's still at least reasonably possible.

      That certainly doesn't mean that it is as easy or convenient as it should be, but maintaining your anonymity online to chat with someone cross country is a hell of a lot easier than if you tried to do it in person while maintaining anonymity.

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    7. Re:Really by garcia · · Score: 1, Interesting

      I have the legal right to ask for the video from a video camera that is owned and operated by the public sector, I have no legal right to do so from someone with Google glass.

    8. Re:Really by Ruprecht+the+Monkeyb · · Score: 1

      For one thing, it's a lot harder to spy on you when you're on your private yacht.

    9. Re:Really by Xest · · Score: 1

      Do you? where do you live? what about private cameras such as shop CCTV?

    10. Re:Really by nospam007 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "When the person being videoed becomes hostile, punches you in the face, and breaks your new google glasses, you may rethink purchasing another pair. "

      Then I'll buy something better, designed for me personally with all the money I'll get for that assault, after suing the moron, since the video will be already saved in the cloud before the fist hits my face.

    11. Re:Really by h4rr4r · · Score: 2

      You suspect wrong. The puncher would quickly be arrested and buying the punched another pair. That is the beauty of uploading the video as you go.

    12. Re:Really by nospam007 · · Score: 1

      "but people bitch about Google Glass."

      I bitch, because they're ugly. I'll wait for Google Shoes.

    13. Re:Really by somersault · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Sounds like you're lucky enough not to have met any hipsters

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    14. Re:Really by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      Google Shoes will have built-in navigation based on the Google Car. No matter how drunk you get, they'll get you home from the bar.

    15. Re:Really by peppepz · · Score: 1

      I can merely walk away or choose not to be around the person wearing Glass...

      Not if both of you want to be in the same place.

      or perhaps kindly ask them to remove them or otherwise disable it.

      And they're free to ignore your request, to lie to you about the thing being disabled, and/or film your reaction and upload it to YouTube.

      People are upset not because government agencies are doing the same thing, but mainly because there's not a damn thing citizens can do to stop it, or prevent massive abuse.

      On the contrary, people have the right to interrogate the authorities about the images they're collecting and the scope of the collection. They can propose laws regulating, limiting or even preventing the collection. They can elect politicians who are against it, and vote against, or no longer vote for, the politicians who are in favour of it.

    16. Re:Really by fulldecent · · Score: 2

      I have the legal right to ask for the video from a video camera that is owned and operated by the public sector, I have no legal right to do so from someone with Google glass.

      I have the legal right to ask for the video from a video camera that is owned and operated by the public sector, I have no legal right to do so from someone with Google glass.

      I have the legal right to ask for the video from a video camera that is owned and operated by the public sector, I have no legal right to do so from someone with Google glass.

      Sir, you have the legal right to ask anyone for anything.

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    17. Re:Really by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 3, Interesting

      My point was people already bitch about shit other people own--big houses, private jets, hummers, stupid donks, animals, etc.

      People bitch about things I own. I own a $1400 bicycle with $600 wheels--having upgraded from a $500 bicycle, ho-ly shit who knew?! People think it's their business to tell me I'm a horrible person for not buying a $50 40lb piece of shit from Toys-R-Us which would be "just as good" but fuck 'em.

      I'm buying a $5000 piano--a Kawai CA-93--and people are telling me I don't need it and/or that a $300 piano or a plastic Yamaha $500 keyboard is "just as good" and rattle on and on about this like it's somehow hurting their quality of life.

      You should see the way some people react when I talk about getting granite counter tops--apparently me having granite makes their quality of life poorer because everybody has granite and it's "overdone" (in the same way, I guess, that everyone having a refrigerator is overdone? Granite is fucking fantastic--yes, cement counter top is respectable, easily repaired, looks good, etc--but granite is really, really fucking awesome).

      Vibram FiveFingers.

      What the fuck do I care about what you think about my Google Glass?

    18. Re:Really by Richard_at_work · · Score: 1

      In the UK that's all covered by the data protection act, yes including private shop CCTV - for a nominal fee (£20 or so) I can request copies of all records, digital or otherwise, video or otherwise, that they have on me.

    19. Re:Really by aaaaaaargh! · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I find it funny that we have police CCTV everywhere--there's two on my street watching my house wtf?--but people bitch about Google Glass. Yet people don't whine about dash cams or cameras in cell phones?

      Typical non-sequitur (and looks like a flaimebait to me, not insightful). You can consistently

      1. be against CCTV everywhere (and where I live, they are not everywhere)

      2. be against Google glasses (unless they'd have a HUGE flashing light plus aconstant BEEP BEEP BEEP sound when they are recording)

      3. have no problem with cameras in phones as long as they are clearly indicating when they are recording (and otherwise be against their use)

      Moreover, in the country I come from filming people in public without their consent is prohibited, and I greatly appreciate that.

    20. Re:Really by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

      wtf am I going to do with a yacht?

      Use it to get laid by hot models that wouldn't give you ten seconds of attention otherwise? Just a guess.

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    21. Re:Really by Connie_Lingus · · Score: 1

      was this post supposed to make sense?

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    22. Re:Really by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You're assuming that the person punching you has any assets or income worth anything. Good luck with that.

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    23. Re:Really by geekmux · · Score: 1

      People are upset not because government agencies are doing the same thing, but mainly because there's not a damn thing citizens can do to stop it, or prevent massive abuse.

      On the contrary, people have the right to interrogate the authorities about the images they're collecting and the scope of the collection. They can propose laws regulating, limiting or even preventing the collection. They can elect politicians who are against it, and vote against, or no longer vote for, the politicians who are in favour of it.

      Right.

      And then the government can continue their classified operations to collect it anyway.

      The only thing greater than a lack of privacy is the illusion you still have control to maintain it. You don't.

    24. Re:Really by LoRdTAW · · Score: 2

      "Yet people don't whine about dash cams or cameras in cell phones?"

      We did when they first came out (camera phones). Then it became the norm and even useful once the cameras produced useful pictures and video.

      The big difference between Google glass and a camera phone is that no one walks around continuously holding up their phone so the camera can capture everything. You have to be somewhat stealthy if you want to snap a clandestine picture or video with a camera phone. If someone is holding up a camera phone in your direction then it becomes obvious. With glass as long as the wearer is looking in your direction, they may or may not be filming you.

      When you say dash cam I assume you mean police dash cams? Or general purpose dash cams like everyone has in Russia? Either way they are much less invasive than glass or even cell phone cameras. They are fixed and only capture a limited view. As for law enforcement, I have never heard people complaining about them. I don't have any strong feeling about them aside from the thought that every police cruiser should have one and it should be illegal for an officer to switch it off.

    25. Re:Really by cayenne8 · · Score: 3, Interesting
      This type of thing is having a negative influence on regular photographer buffs tho...

      I'm on forums for photography where people doing the age old activity of "street photography" are getting some very rude and often violent reactions from people, something that never seemed to happen in the past.

      I've not really run into it yet, but I've heard of folks in other countries besides the US seeing this too. I hear of it especially in the NE section of the US from the people I've spoken with.

      I"m very much against the govt. cameras, but a guy on the street not hassling anyone shouldn't be a problem.

      I think maybe this is a side effect of social networking and facebook.

      I grew up without worrying about a camera everywhere (thank God) when I was a kid/teen/college student. Everyone knew there was a time for and at time NOT for whipping the camera out.

      Sigh, but I guess normal street photography is going to become a casualty of the new times. Sad.

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    26. Re:Really by N0Man74 · · Score: 1

      I can only guess that people are more paranoid about some perv rubbing one off to videos captured with Google Glasses than they are of a government that will rape them using CCTV glasses.

      Though I think I'd be more ok with cops wearing or using technology that allowed them to always record what they see than just random cameras recording everything all the time. At least then there is a presence (and not just using technology to spy) and if they were required to do this then there would be a lot less potential for them to claim that the unarmed guy was reaching for a weapon. It should be used more to audit the cops than the civilians.

    27. Re:Really by Bigbutt · · Score: 1

      No no, it'll be connected to Google Glass. Every time you take a step, it'll snap a picture and upload it for Google Street View, Google Home View, Google Hiking View, Google Mountain Biking View, and of course Google Funniest Pictures.

      [John]

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    28. Re:Really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You got all that money from spamvertising on Slashdot?

    29. Re:Really by geekoid · · Score: 1

      Must be nice for the police as well.

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    30. Re:Really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Are you constantly telling people about the stuff you own and how much it costs? You sound like a real douche. Maybe they're not complaining about your choice of stuff and are instead complaining about you opening your obnoxious mouth so much.

      With the spammy link in your post, their assessment of douchyness may not be far from the mark.

    31. Re:Really by geekoid · · Score: 1

      AH, but you can get just as laid by lying about having a yacht.
      Not on a Yacht, but since you have had too man,e and you are in a hotel anyways..

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    32. Re:Really by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      Actually, if you look at the parent post, you'll see it was about CCTV and about how the government putting CCTV everywhere is terrible as well as Google Glass. But then, dash cams everywhere filming you too. Bike helmet cams. And so on.

    33. Re:Really by Rinikusu · · Score: 1

      What makes you so sure a jury will award you anything? If anything, most people I know would consider someone sitting down at their table, while recording their reactions, to be openly hostile, and chances are the person doing the punching will get off on the "assault", and you'll be left holding the bag for the civil suit afterwards.

      If anything, the police should be citing Surveillance Man for Disturbing the Peace. These are normal, generally happy people before the "Man with a Camera" shows up.

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    34. Re:Really by geekoid · · Score: 1

      " If someone is holding up a camera phone in your direction then it becomes obvious."
      as opposed to using AR? or map software?

      Anyways, I look froward to Google Glass, and how it will change the world for the better.

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    35. Re: Really by iamhassi · · Score: 1

      Good luck: if you have a video of them punching you then YOU will be sued because they were right, you were recording and harassing them! Ironic isn't it?

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    36. Re:Really by geekoid · · Score: 1

      IN the US, you can get them free, it's called 'YouTube'.

      heh.

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    37. Re:Really by geekoid · · Score: 2

      What kind of stupid. selfish unthinking uncivilized knuckle dragging moron thing assault is the correct way to handle thing?
      well you.

      And it's assault, just like it would be know, and the person would be arrested. If not, I will just go to the DA and/or make in publicly embarrassing to local politician who let that kind of thuggery run amok.

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    38. Re:Really by geekoid · · Score: 1

      " Google Glass will fail as a product because people don't like the idea of being videoed "
      alternativly:
      YouTube will fail as a product because people don't like the idea of being videoed

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    39. Re:Really by geekoid · · Score: 2

      It's a side effect of a failing education system and the reoccurring theme that problem should be answered with fists instead of the brain.

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    40. Re:Really by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      I mean like in Russia where 97% of vehicles have a dash cam and you can put together an every-angle-view 24/7 continuously of 100% of what's visible from the road.

    41. Re:Really by geekoid · · Score: 1

      "to avoid waiving your rights to something as fundamentally simple as a trip from New York to LA. "
      example of waving you rights?

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    42. Re:Really by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      OK, glass!

      Snap a pic of her panties!

    43. Re:Really by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      Since it's not premeditated, it's probably going to be a significantly lesser charge than murder.

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    44. Re:Really by LoRdTAW · · Score: 1

      Sorry but I don't know what AR means. But if you are implying that people hold their phones 90 degrees vertically when they look up maps or text then I would say that no, they don't. More like 45 degrees or less to see the screen when navigating or general use (while standing or walking). Plus it would have to be held up more toward eye level to see the viewfinder on the screen.

      I too like the idea of glass, the augmented reality possibilities would be fantastic. Navigation would be amazing: A foot path, arrows or others direction indicators can be overlayed right over your view pointing you in the right direction. Safer than glancing down at a screen. Text messages right in front of you as well as instant heads up information.

      But the privacy drawbacks will always overshadow any real usefulness of the device.

    45. Re:Really by dfenstrate · · Score: 1

      Where do you live that people react this way? I've honestly never seen this sort of personal-level trash talk about nice stuff. (I live in New England) I've very occasionally heard people bitching about the luxury yachts of the ultra-rich, but I've never heard person to person criticism about having nice things.

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    46. Re:Really by camperdave · · Score: 2

      It's a side effect of a failing education system and the reoccurring theme that problem should be answered with fists instead of the brain.

      So we should head-butt them instead of punching them?

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    47. Re:Really by moeinvt · · Score: 2

      "People are upset not because government agencies are doing the same thing, but mainly because there's not a damn thing citizens can do to stop it, or prevent massive abuse."

      Unfortunately, a huge number of citizens actively embrace the surveillance state. To the extent that activities like this can make people stop and think "Gee, this surveillance stuff is really creepy" I applaud it.

    48. Re:Really by moeinvt · · Score: 1

      "I have the legal right to ask for the video from a video camera that is owned and operated by the public sector,"

      You can ASK for anything. Does the government have any legal obligation to provide it to you? I highly doubt it.

    49. Re:Really by SJHiIlman · · Score: 1

      The only thing greater than a lack of privacy is the illusion you still have control to maintain it. You don't.

      And it's not like enough people would be willing to stop voting for the same two parties over and over over such an issue.

    50. Re: Really by Razgorov+Prikazka · · Score: 1

      Hear! Hear! One of the sweetest things about irony is that you never see it coming!
      Weird reaction too; I broke my nose and the glasses are somewhere orbiting my optical nerve right now, but the whole thing is in the cloud now! Happy happy joy joy! Hopefully the court will indeed say; that is your own fault for harassing people, now bugger off!
      http://youtu.be/xKTseEpWrYc

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    51. Re:Really by Ambiguous+Puzuma · · Score: 1

      The people I've talked to generally prefer "black". The key is to use it as an adjective rather than as a noun: "black" describes them, but doesn't define them. "Black people": good. "Blacks": not so good (though better than some of the alternatives).
      I imagine I'd feel the same about being defined rather than described by any of my physical traits.

    52. Re:Really by gnick · · Score: 1

      Careful brother. Sounds like you hating, my nigga.

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    53. Re: Really by Ultra64 · · Score: 1

      >because they were right, you were recording and harassing them! Ironic isn't it?

      No, because you have no idea what you are talking about. Recording is not harassing. It is perfectly legal to record things in public places.

    54. Re:Really by mark-t · · Score: 1

      They would be.... but a lot of people are more afraid of getting arrested than they are of having their privacy violated.

      When somebody who has no apparent affiliation with the government or law enforcement is holding up the camera, most people do not have any such pervasive fear to block them from expressing their first and probably most natural reaction.

    55. Re:Really by Ultra64 · · Score: 2

      >Sorry but I don't know what AR means.

      >... the augmented reality possibilities...

      Are you sure you don't know what AR means?

    56. Re:Really by camperdave · · Score: 3, Funny

      Just one comment, it is very likely, that as a billionair, all the money you have on you will be in plastic cards, giving you a very small wallet, while poor people may have a lot more money in coins, which are thicker and add up pretty quickly.

      Not that I am insinuating that your manhood is not of monstrous proportions.

      Coins are also easier to keep in a sock than a wallet; which is handy because, rich or poor, problems are often best dealt with by bringing financial weight to bear.

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    57. Re:Really by moeinvt · · Score: 1

      "Moreover, in the country I come from filming people in public without their consent is prohibited,"

      You mean it's PROHIBITED, or do you mean that government has a monopoly privilege in this regard?

    58. Re:Really by LordLimecat · · Score: 1

      What is a rural city?

    59. Re: Really by mark-t · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It depends on your lawyer. But all other things being equal, the nature of the harassment caused by somebody videoing you in public location would not generally be considered just cause for assault. You might win a civil case against someebody if they tried to sue you for the cost of the glasses, but video harassment wouldn't save you from the legal consequences, which may include jail.

      If you're willing to go to jail for what you believe is right, well then kudos.

    60. Re: Really by LordLimecat · · Score: 3, Insightful

      which can be considered harassment.

      Right, but I think taking someone's property off of their body and smashing it is also considered harassment, so perhaps they were right for recording you.

      Is that how the logic goes?

      Fact is, if youre in a public place, you dont have an expectation of privacy. Property laws (ie, it being illegal for you to take and smash my stuff), however, still apply.

    61. Re: Really by moeinvt · · Score: 4, Insightful

      " ...they were recording you which can be considered harassment..."

      Assault and destruction of property are not justified, even if you had a legitimate claim of harassment, which in this case, you would not.

    62. Re:Really by SkimTony · · Score: 1

      So, if someone is using Google Glass, make sure you hit him from behind? That sounds like what you're advocating, although you may not mean to do so.

    63. Re:Really by mark-t · · Score: 1

      Assaulting somebody is criminal behavior... and isn't something the police are liable to laugh about, unless the police on duty at the time are just assholes.

      The law, however, is quite unambiguously clear. Assaulting a person is only legally justifiable in self-defense or the defense of somebody else who is unable to defend themselves against assault. Any harassment which led up to such action would have to have to have an assault component itself for it to have any hope of being legally justified.

      You might win a civil case, however... if he tried to sue you for the cost of the glasses.

    64. Re:Really by mark-t · · Score: 1

      It'd still qualify as intentional manslaughter. Not quite as heavy a penalty as premeditated murder... but one that still carries quite a few years of jail time.

    65. Re:Really by peppepz · · Score: 1

      In that case you have to fix your government first, for a government that is allowed to do maneuvers behind the back of the people who elected it, can screw them in much more severe ways other than installing cameras in their back yards.

    66. Re: Really by mark-t · · Score: 1

      Depends... how easy is it to sue somebody while one is in jail?

      Getting annoyed about being videoed in public won't save them from the legal consequences of their actions.

    67. Re:Really by mark-t · · Score: 1

      Arrested? Yes. Buying the punched another pair? Not quite so likely.

    68. Re:Really by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      Yeah, yeah, I can see the kind of pictures you'll get with those. You know that kind of stuff will get you locked up, right?

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    69. Re:Really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Hear, hear, another brilliant tactical advice from The Internet Tough Guy! Why do you even care for Google Glass? You won't ever meet anyone wearing those in the comfort of your basement.

      No, seriously, every discussion about Glass have a thread like this - "I'll punch Glassholes!" - "I'll have the video!" - "I'll go from the side!" - "Try it, I have a black belt in boxing!". Is it a technical forum or a Medal of Duty/Call of Honor game chat?

    70. Re:Really by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      I"m very much against the govt. cameras, but a guy on the street not hassling anyone shouldn't be a problem.

      I think maybe this is a side effect of social networking and facebook.

      Probably - the news is filled with articles of how people have been "screwed over" by social networking - either some film that was obtained or some incriminating photo.

      The funny thing with CCTVs is that for the most part, people don't do anything with the footage - it's usually wiped within a month, if not sooner. However, random joe photographer or glasshole or whatever? Who knows what he'll do with the video. Perhaps upload it to Facebook or Google and watch as FB or G+ auto-tags everyone based on facial recognition. And now, because their security settings are lax, that photo or video is now searchable by anyone.

      I suppose it's the difference between remaining anonymous versus being identified publicly. I suppose that's why most people don't really have issues with CCTV - few people have access to the video that it's not likely to actually make it on the 'net. But surreptitious photos and videos taken and run through extensive databases seek to identify everyone In the image, and that scares people.

      In the end, it boils down to - are there things you do in public that you wouldn't otherwise if everyone in the world knew you personally did those things? With CCTV, you're relatively anonymous to your neighbour, your significant other, etc., but with public videography, someone could Google you and end up with rather salacious details of your activities.

      We're all afraid of the court of public opinion, and peer pressure. And perhaps being "called out" for doing stuff that's perfectly legal, but maybe of "please don't tell my wife/friend/colleague/etc I do this". (It could be something as innocent as sneaking in a cigarette, or going against your diet, ...)

    71. Re:Really by Xest · · Score: 1

      £10 is the maximum but yeah I just looked it up, I didn't realise CCTV was quite so firmly covered by the DPA. Well, there's an option for fighting over the top CCTV then, issuing SARs to companies and the police even at £10 a time could easily create a type of DOS attack because the amount of time required to find all footage of you, copy it off and send it to you would take up a good amount of a CCTV operator's time daily.

    72. Re:Really by TheP4st · · Score: 1
      CCTV footage are uploaded on a very regular basis with the only "good" reason being to have a laugh at people making fools out of themselves.

      http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/a-reminder-that-glass-doors-are-the-biggest-threat-to-humani

      http://www.2mcctv.com/blog/2012_08_10-top-10-funniest-videos-caught-on-cctv-surveillance-cameras/

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5ijGfDMiIs

      Note how the last one were released by the police in an attempt of warning people of the dangers of getting too drunk, something that of course could not have been done in any other fashion.

      CCTV footage isn't uploaded anywhere unless there's a very good reason (general rule).

      Want to try again?

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    73. Re:Really by Richy_T · · Score: 1

      And good luck watching that new pair if you end up suffering migraines for the rest of your life due to damage caused by the punching.

      Life is not a Hollywood movie.

    74. Re:Really by mark-t · · Score: 1

      Or you could, you know... have a personality, and not need to have either a yacht or the need to lie about it to meet women.

    75. Re:Really by Krater76 · · Score: 1

      Formica is where it's at ;)

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    76. Re: Really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      If you're willing to go to jail for what you believe is right, well then kudos.

      If you're not willing to go to jail for what you believe is right, then you must not have very strong beliefs and you deserve to get screwed over regarding those beliefs.

    77. Re:Really by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      Did I just miss the opportunity to point out that Girls Gone Wild (among other shit) is essentially people doing absolutely retarded shit they don't want anyone to ever see specifically because there's a camera around? Like, the actual ethics behind Girls Gone Wild is that people immediately become jackasses when there's a camera around; when there's not a camera around, they regain full baseline understanding that they never want a video record of any of that kind of shit. Ask a random girl to show you her tits or let you take a pic, you get smashed in the face with a slice of lemon wrapped round a large gold brick; show up with a camera and start videoing shit, get the hose, wet t-shirt contest, girls start ripping their tops off. All because there's a camera!

    78. Re:Really by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      This is true. Quartz is pretty great.

    79. Re:Really by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      "When the person being videoed becomes hostile, punches you in the face, and breaks your new google glasses, you may rethink purchasing another pair. "

      "Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, as you can see in the video, the large creamy object swelling in the viewfinder is the defendant's fist, as evidenced by the kappa delta bro ring."

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    80. Re:Really by Nyder · · Score: 2

      My point was people already bitch about shit other people own--big houses, private jets, hummers, stupid donks, animals, etc.

      People bitch about things I own. I own a $1400 bicycle with $600 wheels--having upgraded from a $500 bicycle, ho-ly shit who knew?! People think it's their business to tell me I'm a horrible person for not buying a $50 40lb piece of shit from Toys-R-Us which would be "just as good" but fuck 'em.

      I'm buying a $5000 piano--a Kawai CA-93--and people are telling me I don't need it and/or that a $300 piano or a plastic Yamaha $500 keyboard is "just as good" and rattle on and on about this like it's somehow hurting their quality of life.

      You should see the way some people react when I talk about getting granite counter tops--apparently me having granite makes their quality of life poorer because everybody has granite and it's "overdone" (in the same way, I guess, that everyone having a refrigerator is overdone? Granite is fucking fantastic--yes, cement counter top is respectable, easily repaired, looks good, etc--but granite is really, really fucking awesome).

      Vibram FiveFingers.

      What the fuck do I care about what you think about my Google Glass?

      Maybe if you stopped bragging about how much you are paying for stuff people would get off your case.

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    81. Re:Really by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      No it's more like if I want a piano, people feel it's their duty to tell me to Walmartize my purchase: get some cheap shit. I want something nice. That makes me a horrible person for somehow not knowing how to spend money correctly, or for not patronizing their favorite brand, or for buying something they don't see a value in.

      Like the bike I got takes me about 60% as much energy to move as the $500 bike I had--it's like the bike isn't even there--and I can make it 13 miles to work in 50 minutes instead of 2 hours (energy expenditure is not linearly related to time, somehow). It's lighter, the geometry is better, the gearing is better, it places less stress on the rider so my muscles don't spend as much energy trying to support my body and so I don't develop shit like back or joint pain. People see I bought a bike and make it their business to lecture me and get all haughty and superior about how it's a waste of money and I'm obviously stupid and people shouldn't be allowed to buy shit like that if they're that stupid they can't manage their money when something 1/10 as expensive is sitting right there that's just as good.

      Pulling from this experience as life experience is justifiable in context. Yes, showcasing all my awesome shit is a side effect. But hey, I have a bicycle; the moment I go outside, I'm showcasing my awesome shit. Ditto if you have a Porsche--and let's face it, a Porsche isn't just a badge; it's an awesome car to drive. A Cadillac is a badge; a Cadillac CTS-V is an awesome car to drive (I hate GM, but yeah). Much of Pontiac distinctly weren't badges, but were pretty nice cars to drive. An MX-5 will get you ridiculed for completely different reasons than coming home with a new BMW in da hood on your McDonalds paycheck will, but that's an awesome car to drive. People are looking.

      Walmartize and ridicule for other reasons. Granite/Quartz is considered the "everyone has it" countertop, like stainless steel appliances. Hardwood floor is considered top-quality... and then people start telling you to get laminate floating floor because "it's cheaper and looks just as good." You do not know what hardwood is.

    82. Re:Really by crtreece · · Score: 1
      I personally couldn't stand it when we had granite counter tops. Dish or plate hits it just a little too hard? If you are lucky, it only chips, if not, get the broom out. We must have lost 1-2 pint beer glasses a month.

      You? Feel free to to put in whatever type of counters you want.

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    83. Re:Really by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1
      It's a Wal-Mart thing. Nice things are a waste of money, and you need to retire one day. I buy $20 3-packs of socks that are worn and inelastic 4 years later; I was buying $8 8-packs that would have holes in them in 1-2 washes, spending $60/year instead of $60/3year. People are like... why do you need expensive *socks*? Look, $8 at Wal-Mart.

      Meanwhile my salary is lower but my debt is lower and I'm acquiring assets at higher quality at a much higher rate. People make $20k/year more than me, pay half as much in taxes 'cause married, no kids yet, and they're not doing a very good job of preparing financially for kids 'cause they can't afford shit. I rented, then bought a house; they bought houses, want to move to a bigger house, but are currently poorer than me--because I "threw my money away" in rent, while they "built an asset" paying more per month in interest, taxes, and homeowner's insurance (mine is $1000/year vs my $100/year renter's insurance) than I ever did in rent and insurance. They don't understand how they can sell their house and come away with so very, very little to offset the debt of buying the next house.

      In other news, Catholics want you to read about Jesus. Atheists want you to stop being superstitious. Americans want to drop soldiers into your country, blow a bunch of shit up, kill your leaders, establish democracy, and show you how much better it is than the non-American stuff you have.

    84. Re:Really by dcw3 · · Score: 1

      Funny, my granite is eleven years old, stain free, and never once resealed. Where do you dig up this kind of bullshit?

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    85. Re:Really by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      Interesting. I guess grandiose satire doesn't carry well. Although satire is by nature semi-serious; I think I made some good points as well. But you provide some fine wisdom.

    86. Re:Really by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      I want counter tops that don't dent or wear :)

    87. Re:Really by farble1670 · · Score: 2

      In the end, it boils down to - are there things you do in public that you wouldn't otherwise if everyone in the world knew you personally did those things?

      the world would be a better place if people behaved as though the world was watching them all the time.

    88. Re:Really by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

      What is this personality thing and how does one acquire it? I have a yacht to trade.

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    89. Re:Really by Askmum · · Score: 1

      People should be this upset about the government doing this too. CCTV's are popping up everywhere, even in rural US cities.

      As much as I would like to agree with you, I can't. The government does not video in my face, does not follow me around with a camera, and most of all: does not post these videos on Youtube.
      Having said that: I am absolutely not in favour of CCTV surveillance but I can see its merits. Just recently, a group of youths, attacking and repeatedly kicking a man lyong on the ground, was arrested in the city of Eindhoven, the Netherlands because of being recognised on CCTV footage. I know it's a fine line between using CCTV footage to search for and arrest violators of the law and following just random people.

    90. Re: Really by Maritz · · Score: 1

      I like the part where you seem to contend, with what I assume to be a straight face, that you would do this. It's easy to say you would.

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    91. Re:Really by kickassweb · · Score: 1

      It used to be that street photography was, for the most part, only seen by the photography buffs at photo shows and such, and in the occasional photo specialty mag. Now? It can be posted on the internet and seen everywhere. And once facial recognition software is readily available? Ugh. This ready availability is a problem for many people and specifically for people who do not wish abusers/stalkers to recognize them and know where they are. Sometimes a PFA is not enough.

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    92. Re:Really by betterprimate · · Score: 1

      People would second guess their impulses, both bad *and* good.

    93. Re: Really by Travelsonic · · Score: 1

      >because they were right, you were recording and harassing them! Ironic isn't it?
      Well, it probably wouldn't get too far - unreasonable use of force is still unreasonable use of force.

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      If you believe in privacy, and believe you have "nothing to hide" at the same time, you're a goddammed idiot
    94. Re:Really by doccus · · Score: 1

      How is it that people are concerned for their "privacy" when some tourist videotapes, say, a beach scene in Torquay , England ( I gather going to Torquay for a lovely afternoon in the rain is an old British tradition ;-), yet every ten feet or so, on every street corner, on every block, in the country, and in every public bathroom and toilet stall, and every hallway and lobby, and every cafeteria is a CCTV camera spying on them.There's CCTV surveillance In every store, every pub, nightclub, arcade, every park, bridge, and even *under* every bridge. AFAIK, only the great Cathedrals haven't yet introduced them inside the pews and confessional booths.. although I expect the CofE might eventually just cave in on that matter. And...yet, how is it these same people react with concern when someone inadvertently records them on their smartphone?

    95. Re:Really by mpeskett · · Score: 1

      If it's visible from outside of your home, that could be construed as a public performance/display, and will surely bring down the wrath of the copyright police.

    96. Re:Really by Meski · · Score: 1

      You think you have control of that inbuilt webcam? Bradbury would laugh. (F451)

  2. So, no more.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    .. "2 girls 1 cup reaction" videos?

  3. Re:Just For Laughs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Most of the time those people sign waivers and they're often paid a small amount as well. My roommate worked on a show similar to "Just for Laughs" in Toronto and most people simply wouldn't permit any footage of them to be used.

  4. Re:Just For Laughs? by kcmastrpc · · Score: 1

    *shrug* i'm not sure why this is even news. it's their site, they can ban/remove whatever they want.

  5. Black mirror by mvar · · Score: 4, Interesting

    On the subject of surveillance and Google Glass, the British tv-series Black Mirror had a pretty neat episode (s01e03) titled "The Entire History of You", here's a brief description from wikipedia: Set in an alternative reality where most people have a 'grain' implanted behind their ear which records everything they do, see or hear. This allows memories to be played back either in front of the person's eyes or on a screen, a process known as a 're-do'. Very interesting concept

    1. Re:Black mirror by fincher69 · · Score: 1

      Sounds very similar to the 2004 Robin Williams movie The Final Cut. People had implants that recorded their entire lives, then there were people whose job it was to edit together their best moments for their funerals. Also brought in some interesting ethical ideas when editors stumble across the not-so-great moments of some people. Not a comical role for Williams, but definitely an interesting concept.

    2. Re:Black mirror by 10101001+10101001 · · Score: 1

      Another interesting take on the idea of everyone having access to pervasive surveillance (and good data mining) is Platonic Chain. Oddly enough, Platonic Chain is mostly a comedy.

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  6. Cyborg Steve Mann details alleged McDonald’s by Steve+Newall · · Score: 1

    This sounds similar to some of the problems that Steve Mann has run into. He has been experimenting with augmented reality headsets since 1980 and has documented quite a few incidents before and been on slashdot before.

  7. pshaw really? by wbr1 · · Score: 2

    'They wonder if they're being recorded, and they feel like the tool could be used against them in some way.'"

    You wonder of you are being recorded? You are, by the hundred cameres you walk past every day, by your smartphone, by your ISP, by any of a dozen other things probably.

    I am less worried about some wierdo Google glassing me taking a piss and wacking off to it later than what the government will do with their recordings if they I cross the wrong person.

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    1. Re:pshaw really? by anyaristow · · Score: 1

      You wonder of you are being recorded? You are, by the hundred cameres you walk past every day

      And it's highly unlikely anything will come of it. To cameras on the street you are uninteresting.

      I am less worried about some wierdo Google glassing me taking a piss

      You should be concerned about some weirdo using you in an image meme, or of a "friend" incidentally capturing you everywhere you go, and another "friend" tagging you in the videos or photos, making your private business searchable.

    2. Re:pshaw really? by anyaristow · · Score: 1

      And you should be more concerned that once your "friend" has identified you to his life logging software, it will be able to automatically tag you in every video or photo.

    3. Re:pshaw really? by Connie_Lingus · · Score: 1

      dude im not sure what brand smartphone you are using but trust me when i say i know 100% for certain my smartphone isn't videoing me surreptitiously...and if there was any hint it was i'd reflash the rom in 30 seconds...and how is my ISP videoing me when i dont have any cameras connected to my computer?

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    4. Re:pshaw really? by wbr1 · · Score: 1

      I said record. Record does not mean a video recording necessarily. Audio, traffic logging, gps logging.. all of these are recording.

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    5. Re:pshaw really? by geekoid · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Walking in the street is not now, nor has it ever been, private business.

      You re already being recorded, and the government and corporations can find out every thing you do. If you become a perosn of interest, then whom every is interested can find out everything you do on a much more personal level then some dorks tagging you from an image.

      Google Glass is the citizens number one best protection from abuse.

      BTW, I can get a hidden camera that I wear on me for a lot less then Google Glass. So If I want to record you, I could. Well, not you cause I don't want to go through the hassle of tracking you down, but you get my meaning.

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    6. Re:pshaw really? by Hypotensive · · Score: 1

      I am less worried about some wierdo Google glassing me taking a piss and wacking off to it later than what the government will do with their recordings if they I cross the wrong person.

      If your weirdo uploads the video to somewhere that vaguely resembles a public forum, the government will get their copy too.

    7. Re:pshaw really? by betterprimate · · Score: 1

      Recording, uploading, and using the video can be illegal without the individual's consent especially if they are identifiable. There are exceptions, like being among a large crowd, participating in a public forum.

      What this kid did was illegal *and* on private property.

      http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Photographs_of_identifiable_people

  8. Investment Opportunity by Bigbutt · · Score: 1

    Time to create a pattern shifting mask for general walking around ala Rorschach.

    [John]

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  9. Reactions? by moeinvt · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Why do people passively accept the presence of fixed security cameras everywhere, but get agitated when there is a person aiming a camera at them?

    I can sort of understand the reaction if he followed them around, but in the few clips I watched, he's in a public place and the people are actively chasing him away.

    I'd like to see him sitting somewhere in the direct vicinity of a police camera and point out to people that the government is doing the same damned thing. Maybe people would re-consider their support of government spying.

    1. Re:Reactions? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Disagree. This guy is just being a total asshole and a creep. The one lady is just having a conversation on the phone and he come up, sits down in front of her, videotaping her from point blank range. She asks him fairly nicely to please go away, and he just keeps being an asshole about it. Despite that, she continues acting fairly nice for a while until he continues being an asshole. And she even tried to engage him in some conversation, reading part of something off his shirt "I support" and then asking what it was he supported. Instead of responding, he continues to just be a creep, and gives her no response.

      Also, this is supposed to be some form of protest against pervasive security cameras, but there are a few major differences. First, I believe the vast majority of security cameras only capture video, not sound. Second, security cameras are not specifically targeting you the way this jerk is by coming up and getting right in people's faces. Third, security cameras generally aren't uploading their videos to youtube.

      I'm generally very cool with people doing this stuff in public. I have no problem with people taking photos or videos of me in public. Hell, I'm a photographer myself, so I'm sensitive to that sort of thing since I'm often the one behind the camera. But this guy is just an asshole, and even I would be extremely pissed if he acted that way around me. Assholes like him are why people like me get grief whenever we photograph in public.

    2. Re:Reactions? by TwentyCharsIsNotEnou · · Score: 1

      Maybe because they don't know the context of the video he's making??

      You really don't understand why people would be more concerned by a suspicious creep pointing a camera in their faces than a CCTV camera high up on a pole?

      I get the point he's trying to make, but I think he's incredibly obnoxious in making it.

    3. Re:Reactions? by moeinvt · · Score: 1

      "You really don't understand why people would be more concerned by a suspicious creep pointing a camera in their faces than a CCTV camera high up on a pole? "

      I totally understand it at an *emotional* level. Logically, I don't see why there's much of a difference. There could just as easily be some obnoxious creep behind the cameras at police HQ. I think that highlighting this disconnect in our perception is part of the point.

      If he started following people around, it would be different because you can always walk away from a mounted camera. In the 3 clips I watched however, he was filming in public and the people were chasing him away.

    4. Re:Reactions? by moeinvt · · Score: 2

      I don't recall the video you're talking about, but it's refreshing to hear about one case where a government employee was actually held accountable for wrongdoing. That's a rarity, especially in the federal government.

      I don't find the ownership question to be a fundamental difference. There is a potential for abuse and only the nature of the abuse is in question.

      My dislike for authority certainly influences my views. For one thing, I'm paying for the hardware and salaries of the government creeps. On another note, this guy running around with a camera can't kidnap and cage me if I do something he doesn't like.

    5. Re:Reactions? by TsuruchiBrian · · Score: 2

      With a CCTV there is an expectation that nobody is going to view or use the video unless something crazy happens (like a robbery). When someone is holding a camera and specifically recording you, there is an expectation of intent to view and use the video.

      It's like the difference between walking passed the barrel of a gun in a gun store and having someone pointing an unloaded gun at you. They are both unloaded guns that, if they were loaded and fired, would hit you, but one is clearly lacking any intent while the other clearly has some kind of intent (whatever that may be).

      I could go around pointing unloaded guns at people and say it's a social commentary on the irony of how people walk passed the barrels of guns all the time without caring, but they freak out when I point an unloaded gun at them.

      I don't think it is irrational to feel more threatened by someone intentionally video taping you, than being recorded by a machine. Yes there can be people controlling the cameras and following people and watching them on CCTV, but that's like video taping people secretly. They don't freak out because they don't know they are being video taped.

    6. Re:Reactions? by Ksevio · · Score: 1

      Exactly - I doubt he'd get such fun reactions if he sat in the corner of a room and aimed his camera at people (say like the surveillance he's trying to bring attention to), but his videos show that he's clearly trying to violate peoples' personal space by getting in their face. He's probably get the same reactions if he shoved his shoe at them.

    7. Re:Reactions? by blahplusplus · · Score: 1

      "Why do people passively accept the presence of fixed security cameras everywhere, but get agitated when there is a person aiming a camera at them?"

      The brain did not evolve a threat response to cameras in an environment. It really has to do with proximity and the fact that the human observer is within proximity.

      Most of our problems come from the idea that 'we are free' when we are not. People don't get emotionally upset simply because the human mind doesn't get emotionally upset enough because it wasn't part of our evolutionary history. Guy + cam = upsetting and creepy, camera hanging somewhere in or out of sight = little reaction.

      Most of our responses our emotional responses cue based and automatic. Only a smaller percentage of the more intelligent population has a more advanced manner in how emotions are activated that registers things like all pervasive surveillance.

    8. Re:Reactions? by mark-t · · Score: 1

      Not remotely the same. Guns cause life-threatening physical harm. Unwanted videos might damage one's reputation, but they do not pose any threat to a person's right to continue to be alive.

    9. Re:Reactions? by mark-t · · Score: 2

      A person having a private conversation in a public place is only afforded privacy by whatever level of indifference about the conversation may exist in those surrounding them. That's something over which one will have absolute;y zero control.

      If you want to have a private conversation, have your private conversation someplace where you can have some legal say in who else is allowed to be near you.

    10. Re:Reactions? by mark-t · · Score: 1
      To answer your initial question: the person to whom I responded mentioned the phone conversation that a woman was having.

      If people want to be left alone, they should go where there aren't any other people, instead of hanging out where other people have a legitimate right to be.

    11. Re:Reactions? by TsuruchiBrian · · Score: 1

      It is remotely the same. It is not exactly the same, because it's is an analogy. Yes people will freak out way more when a gun is pointed at them than when a camera is pointed at them, because the threat of harm is much higher.

      My point was not that guns and cameras illicit the exact same behavior. My point was that someone actively pointing either of these at you will illicit more of a threat response than one that happens to be pointed at you. This is because there is more of an expectation of *intent* to harm when someone is actively pointing a camera/gun at you than when a camera/gun happens to be pointing at you.

    12. Re:Reactions? by mark-t · · Score: 1

      I'd argue that people flipping out over feeling like their privacy is being violated is nothing like people flipping out because they think that there is a chance that they might actually cease to be alive.

      And besides... privacy is an illusion. In public, it really only exists because most people would rather pay attention to things that actually concern them than be bothered with other people.

    13. Re:Reactions? by TsuruchiBrian · · Score: 1

      Flipping out because of your privacy being violated is at least *something* like flipping out at the chance that you might die. You are flipping out because you feel threatened in both examples. One is a higher threat.

      I am not claiming that they are the same magnitude. I am saying it's the same type of reaction at different levels. It's an analogy. It's supposed to be different in scale.

  10. Re:public vs private surveillance by DrXym · · Score: 1

    Perhaps you are comfortable having facing someone wearing a camera strapped to their heads, who may or may not be recording you, who may or may not even be paying attention to what you are saying, who may even be augmenting your appearance for their private amusement. But I guarantee there are many people who would not. For a similar effect try videoing people on a train or in a social situation and see how they appreciate it. Wearing Google Glass is an invitation to get into arguments and receive free punches by friends and total strangers alike.

  11. Re:Cyborg Steve Mann details alleged McDonald&rsqu by DrXym · · Score: 1

    At least Google Glass devices can be removed. Having one surgically implanted is pretty stupid regardless of the tenuous reasons offered for doing so.

  12. Re:Just For Laughs? by Hypotensive · · Score: 2

    Because hypocrisy.

  13. Re:Know what by mark-t · · Score: 1

    It's not like they have anything to hide if they're doing nothing wrong, right?

    That's a fallacy.

    Having something to hide does not mean there is anything necessarily wrong.

    People don't wear clothes in public because there is anything (necessarily) wrong with their nude bodies. They do so because there are parts of their body that they consider private.

    Of course, how you behave in public, by default, is not something that is inherently private. If one wants privacy, it stands to reason that one should take their private matters to some location where they can control who else can legally be there without their permission. Which means someplace that isn't in public.

  14. Changed my mind about the guy by moeinvt · · Score: 2

    Based on the video that was removed by YouTube and posted on LiveLeak, I thought he was trying to make a political point by filming people in public places, which is well within his rights.

    If you look at some of his YouTube videos however, he's actually going inside buildings and pointing his camera at people through windows. Just being a jackass and probably violating trespass laws, especially after they ask him to leave.

    It's weird that YouTube chose the one specific video to delete. The others are depicting actions which seem a lot more like harassment.

  15. worse than google by GlowingCat · · Score: 1

    OMG, he's worse than Google! oh wait..

  16. In response to the Glass Will Fail article by sahuxley · · Score: 1

    Freeing up your hands doesn't matter that much, except in every craft that involves using your hands. It may not be such a breakthrough product in the casual world, but it will revolutionize the professional world, and that's where real money is.

  17. Re:public vs private surveillance by mark-t · · Score: 1

    Privacy is something that we are only afforded by whatever level of indifference people who might be around us may have in our affairs.

    We have absolutely *ZERO* control over what other people might be thinking or wanting to do.

    If you want privacy... go someplace private... resorting to physical violence to try to settle what is an entirely nonviolent situation is... well... stupid.

  18. This is pure harrassment. by nuckfuts · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I"m very much against the govt. cameras, but a guy on the street not hassling anyone shouldn't be a problem.

    The person calling himself Surveillance Camera Guy was absolutely hassling people in my opinion. In one controversial instance, he sat down at a small table outside a coffee shop with a man who was talking on his cell phone, and proceeded to record the man on video. Not surprisingly, the man asked what Camera Guy was doing. Camera Guy's repeated response was an inane "It's OK - it's just a video" or something like that. The victim calmly and politely asked him to take his camera elsewhere, stating that he was having a private conversation, but eventually become quite angry that Camera Guy would not respect his request for privacy.

    A lot of commenters ridiculed the victim because he was expecting to have a "private conversation" in a public space. I wonder how these commenters would react to a stranger recording their phone conversations? It's one thing to be casually overheard talking on a phone in public. It's another thing for some jerk to deliberately encroach in someone's personal space and sit there recording their conversation.

    Some people have interpreted Camera Guy's stunts as an artistic commentary on life in a surveillance society. I call bullshit. At one point he tells a victim something like "Why would you object to me video recording you? The store you just walked out of has video surveillance cameras, yet you weren't bothered by that". There is a world of difference between a passive camera system that indiscriminately records video (and not audio) of anyone who walks past, and a guy who deliberately singles out individual passersby, encroaches on them in a manner that is deliberately intended to make them uncomfortable, refuses to answer meaningfully why he is doing it, records both video and audio, and then posts the videos online for the sake of ridiculing the victim.

    We have certain accepted modes of behaviour to enable us to get along together as a society, such as respect for people's personal space, even in public. To deliberately cross these boundaries, merely for the purpose of making people uncomfortable, is neither clever or noteworthy. Camera Surveillance Guy was being a rude little asshole for the sake of his own amusement. Youtube was correct to consider his actions as harassment.

  19. COI by aoism · · Score: 1

    Conflict of interest much, Google?

  20. Nose out of joint? by hicksw · · Score: 1

    Ah, Google Glass -- what a boon to rhinoplasty!
    --
    Eisenhower's nightmare has come true.

  21. He needs a permit and proof of insurance. by betterprimate · · Score: 1

    The primary issue is intent. The people being videotaped without their consent can file a lawsuit. It is arguable the video is being used for commercial purposes (i.e. he is publishing under a perceived trademark). Under most jurisdictions, that requires a permit and proof of insurance. There is very little difference with what he is doing and what portrait photographs do.

  22. Right of Publicity by betterprimate · · Score: 1

    "The right of publicity is the right to control the commercial use of one's likeness. The most obvious example of this is advertising (whether or not the advertisement is for commercial purposes). This right concerns the subject of the photograph and is distinct from the photographer's copyright licence which may impost its own terms or grant freedoms regarding commercial reuse. All images hosted on Commons must allow free commercial reuse from a copyright point-of-view, but the subject of the photograph may still refuse permission or demand payment for such reuse. This right does not affect the hosting of an image on Commons; might rarely affect the use of an image on a Wikimedia project; and is most likely to affect commercial re-users. In some countries and states, the right of publicity may persist for some time after death."