Motorola Is Listening
New submitter pbritt writes "Ben Lincoln was hooking up to Microsoft ActiveSync at work when he 'made an interesting discovery about the Android phone (a Motorola Droid X2) which [he] was using at the time: it was silently sending a considerable amount of sensitive information to Motorola, and to compound the problem, a great deal of it was over an unencrypted HTTP channel.' He found that photos, passwords, and even data about his home screen config were being sent regularly to Motorola's servers. He has screenshots showing much of the data transmission."
The NSA would like to thank Motorola for their cooperation.
"National Security is the chief cause of national insecurity." - Celine's First Law
"A company that listens to its users"
It's all for "improved customer experience." If they know to whom you're talking, or what pictures you're taking, or what documents you're reading or writing, or where you are at any given moment, they can better tailor their services to fit your needs. I'm surprised this isn't patently obvious. /snark
It seems every device, every internet service, basically every communication node that we use has been turned into something that is beyond George Orwell's worst nightmare. As long as there is continued complacency on the part of people using this technology, the invasion of privacy will continue to grow. This of course assumes that it could get much worse. The only options at this point are to stop or drastically reduce using these networks while we attempt to build our own.
I know, that sounds like the lead-in to a joke - but not this time.
In the US, anyway, Congress established quite some time ago that companies had more rights to our personal information than most of us would want them to have. So it's not surprising when we find out the NSA (or whoever) has carte blanche to our information - and also that Congress doesn't grok why we get upset about it.
Europeans ostensibly have much stronger protections in this regard; but it seems to me there's a lot of "wink, wink, nudge nudge" going on over there, and those "protections" are mainly in place so their officials can posture indignantly whenever news like this comes out. In practice I don't think there's much of a difference on either side of the Atlantic.
So what's the big deal about yet another large entity slurping our personal information? Whether they're public or private - according to the folks elected to represent us, we shouldn't be upset about it...
#DeleteChrome
You can RELOAD the device's OS with custom ROMs that don't do this crap. If it was discovered Apple does this (and who's to say they don't) what choice have you? And Windows phone? Don't even start.
Part of the reality of "security" is taking responsibility for your own. Security is not a product you can buy. It's not something that other people can do for you (because that's tyranny). It's a personal responsibility and it takes knowledge and understanding to do. Tough luck to all those people who have neither the inclination nor the ability to learn.
"An article you wrote for your personal website has appeared on the main page of both Slashdot and Hacker News, and you were not the submitter in either case."
I haven't logged onto this account in ages, but if anyone has any questions, I'd be happy to try to answer them.
"...always new atoms but always doing the same dance, remembering what the dance was yesterday." -Richard Feynman
This is just Google collecting all of the worlds data, just like they said they were doing to do.
The Droid X2 was released on May 11, 2011. Google announced their intention to acquire Motorola Mobility on August 15, 2011, and completed the acquisition on May 22, 2012.
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How about this?
They've gone way beyond authorized access, and are collecting information they have no business accessing.
But somehow those EULAs magically give them the legal right to do anything they want to.
Lost at C:>. Found at C.
If it was discovered Apple does this (and who's to say they don't)
We know they don't because there are many hundreds of millions of people using Apple devices now, and lots of developers using network proxy monitoring tools in development that see all network traffic from the devices to boot.
Basically if Apple were doing this we would have known long ago, and there would be no shortage of people to shout about it continuously on Slashdot and elsewhere.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
What is this crap, and why do they always get it wrong?
Yes, I do want to seamlessly sync my mail, sms and contacts across my devices.
Except none of the solutions proposed really do that well...
(Or maybe I'm not typical, having multiple PCs and mobile devices, including iOS and Android?)
Photos too? Hell, why not. Picasa from Google used to be OK...
But now, after the "success" of FB, it seems that you can't have simple sync solution anymore; everybody is pushing unwanted, privacy-leaking, "social" features down our throats.
Just please fucking stop!
These are not the droids you are looking for... Look at the Chinese! Look at the evil Chinese! They're spying on us!
Well, of course they are. But look at it this way:
When the Chinese spy on you, what can they do to you based on the data it gathers?
When the your own government spies on you, what can it do to you based on the data it gathers?
Somehow, I feel safer sending my data to the Chinese...
I'm wondering if I get charged for this?
so I need a FOIA to restore my backup now?
the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
I watched a Bill Maher video yesterday in which a conservative politician who clearly believed that cleanliness (and short hair) is next to godliness claimed to believe in "adaptation" but not a certain fish story when confronted by a historically unelectable Canadian politician about whether he believed in antibiotic resistance (in which the evolution of the resistance trait was greatly accelerated by careless overuse).
I actually cut the guy some slack. There's no reason why he can't logically believe in the special theory of evolution (local adaptation) without necessarily believing in the general theory of evolution (the ascent of complexity from primordial origins). To believe in one without the other requires a larger than average mental judgement in between. Unfortunately, he lamely fell back on invoking the missing link. Bzzzzt. Thanks for playing.
Clearly he hasn't checked in with the Out of Africa theory lately, which was speculative until we began to read DNA in the early 1980s with all the proficiency of a clever three year old. Right now we're at about year two of a ten year post-graduate program in speed reading for lifeforms with facet eyes. Things have changed. If there were any region of the globe over the past 10,000 years (or 100,000 years) where the genetic lineage of any species of quadruped (Noah being the patron saint of charismatic megafauna) is constricted to a single breeding pair, we'll surely find it soon on the rising flood of sequence data. Dude groomed for rapture should be worrying about the missing crink, not the missing link.
I can't say I have a higher opinion of "blame the government". It's like blaming calcium for arthritis, on the grounds that sans calcium, arthritis as we know it would no longer exist. The problem here is that calcium is just the implementation. The specification is to have a load bearing structure nimble enough to evade and pursue (aka biosecurity). A large branch of the solution space descends from elbows and kneecaps.
One of the major functions of a large population is agreeing on the threat enough to achieve cohesion in the threat response. This is mirrored in the organism by how the fight/flight response is balanced on a knife edge, and how the hormones that prime this metabolic state also tamps down immune response. Guess what, libertarians, that's a centralized response.
You can discard the implementation (government as we know it), but you can't discard the specification. Unfortunately, contrary to the most vociferous howls, the problems are actually rooted in the specification, not the implementation.
Just like replacing an aging software system, while it's absolutely certain that the worst points of friction in the existing system will go away, new points of friction are extremely likely to take their place, unless you stumble upon the "silver bullet" solution paradigm (social media won't let you down). I tend to be fairly reluctant to stick up my hand when a surgeon promises to cure my arthritic knee by lopping off my leg and grafting on a tentacle to replace it. I worry that might bring with it new problems every bit as annoying as the previous problem.
The present state of the NSA and the legislation around it is pretty much an unbroken story since the end of the first world war. (The Germans did not invent Enigma on a fall afternoon in 1939.) I vaguely recall reading in the The Puzzle Palace (or something similar from the same era) that before the U.S. government passes a law preventing secret agencies from spying on American citizens there was already a secret law on the books exempted a certain no such agency from being beholden to any such future law.
Democracy it turns out is a lot like the human immune system. It shuts down on a dime in the presence of an acute threat, as defined by the pulsed secretion of some small gland. Once you get to the place where the small gland sees a lion in every box of Cracker Jack, democracy is reduced to vestigial status, until
There are only two hard things in Computer Science: cache invalidation, naming things, and off-by-one errors.
God is imaginary
Of these three multibillion-dollar corporations, which one has a private jumbo jet for its executives:
1. ExxonMobil
2. Verizon
3. Oracle
4. Google
"Don't be evil"? My ass.
Probably the one that only hires people who know how to count.
Sig Battery depleted. Reverting to safe mode.
The idfa feature has nothing to do with Apple tracking you. It has everything to do with *others* tracking you - or rather, limiting how others track you.
Prior to iOS6, third party apps would access your devices UDID and use it to track your device. There was no way for a user to disable or limit this. In iOS6, Apple shut that down and forced advertisers to use the idfa instead. The idfa is something you as a user can reset or turn off to limit how advertisers track you. The feature is a pure win for user privacy and anyone who claims otherwise is either a complete idiot or thinks his audience is.
Mmmm.. Donuts