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Ikea Foundation Introduces Better Refugee Shelter

Lasrick writes "This is truly brilliant: Ikea has joined with the UN Refugee Agency to design a longer lasting flatpack shelter that includes a solar panel and UV reflecting material." From the article: "Ikea's design, a cross between a giant garden shed and a khaki canvas marquee, is formed from lightweight laminated panels that clip on to a simple frame, providing UV protection and thermal insulation. Like an Ikea product, the polymer panels come packed in a box, along with a bag of pipes, connectors and wires – and no doubt a cartoon construction manual." And they last for around three years.

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  1. Re:Ok.... by jonwil · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I have a whole household full of IKEA products that have served me well for years, I see no reason why the same couldn't apply to these shelters too.

  2. Makes sense by interkin3tic · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The video said the average family will be in these tents for ten years, while the durability of these tents is 3 years (up from 6 months from the old tents). That sounded odd to me until I realized I've been living for 6 years with Ikea furniture which felt like it would last two months.

    Good on Ikea. Though I wish they had said what crazy swedish name they were going to call these things.

    1. Re:Makes sense by MeepMeep · · Score: 2

      Considering the people who need it don't own anything....maybe LACK?

      Wait, that's taken

    2. Re:Makes sense by plover · · Score: 3, Funny

      Though I wish they had said what crazy swedish name they were going to call these things.

      I figured they'd call it SHAANTEA.

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  3. We need those here by Animats · · Score: 4, Interesting

    San Francisco has 8,000 homeless people. Those could help.

    1. Re:We need those here by jamstar7 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      San Francisco has 8,000 homeless people. Those could help.

      The problem is, where do you put them up? NIMBY ('Not In My Back Yard!!') is the watchword here.

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    2. Re:We need those here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The homeless aren't refugees and can't be treated like them. 8000 crazy alcoholics with poor impulse control would indeed be a NIMBY nightmare.

    3. Re:We need those here by Ultracrepidarian · · Score: 2

      It would look incredibly slow.

    4. Re:We need those here by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 2

      Or, you could 3D-print a permanent house. I believe there are companies that are trying to pursue this path.

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    5. Re:We need those here by msauve · · Score: 2, Funny

      Sounds more like a major political party convention.

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  4. Re:Ok.... by jamstar7 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I have a whole household full of IKEA products that have served me well for years, I see no reason why the same couldn't apply to these shelters too.

    The difference, of course, is your Ikea furniture isn't exposed to the elements. A 3 year lifespan for a temporary shelter isn't bad...

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  5. Re:Ok.... by Khyber · · Score: 2

    Go set your IKEA products out in the elements for a while and see if they even last 6 months.

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  6. Why not the Hexayurt? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    Nobody knows why Ikea ignored the hexayurt designs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hexayurt , http://hexayurt.com/ ). NIH?

    1. Re:Why not the Hexayurt? by icebike · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Hard to pack in boxes, and they make inefficient use of limited land, that's my guess.
      Might also be harder to assemble.

      Since Ikea Already uses one percent of all the processed wood in the world, i suspect they also know that other designs are more resource demanding.

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    2. Re:Why not the Hexayurt? by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Informative

      Hexayurts/hexadomes are put together out of plywood, not canvas and sticks. If painted, they should last substantially more than ten years. And they are made out of materials available pretty much anywhere in the USA, we have a lot of plywood. It doesn't even matter too much what kind of plywood you use.

      I just have to wonder how this project compares to erecting hexayurts costwise. We are talking about Ikea, masters of charging a lot for crap.

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  7. good ideas ...... by thephydes · · Score: 2

    are often simple to use when they come to fruition. One could say this approach was obvious - so obvious in fact that no-one else has made it work yet. It quite likely needs some fine tuning but what implementation of an idea does not? Good work!

  8. Re:Ok.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    How many shipping containers can you fit into a shipping container? How many can you fit onto the back of a truck? I have a feeling your ability to distribute them would be severely limited.

  9. Re:So, are they giving it to the UN, or selling? by icebike · · Score: 4, Informative

    According to http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IKEA Ike does indeed have a none profit foundation, like Microsoft, Google and Ford.
    But ikea itself is very much a For Profit Dutch Corporation.

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  10. Re:Ok.... by Calydor · · Score: 2

    Most IKEA products aren't -designed- to be exposed to the elements, though. They are designed to be placed indoors in a controlled environment.

    I'm pretty sure these shelters are designed with weather in mind at least until something else is proven.

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  11. Re: Only two problems. by tracker1972 · · Score: 2

    Since when was a "polymer panel" fiberboard? So doors this mean your second point is nonsense as well? Did you actually read the articles or just see an IKEA bookshelf once?

  12. Perhaps the bigger problem... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    While any incremental advances in design are a good thing, it seems like the timescales we are talking about here are starting to get into 'perhaps you need to re-think your approach to the problem...' territory.

    12 years is really pushing the idea of 'temporary' to the limit. How long do you go before you stop trying to incrementally decrease the squalor in a given refugee camp and start to admit that either you need to get your shit together on whatever is keeping your refugee camp full, or you need to admit that you have no resolution in sight on that one, and admit that your refugee camp is now a town.

  13. Re:Will not stop bastards by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 3, Insightful

    this will not stop a gang of rapists cutting their way in from the side raping everyone stealing and what they like
    probably better than a white sheet over a couple of wires though

    If you are reduced to relying on fortified architecture for that, you arguably have bigger problems(as well as problems that should be solvable at lower cost and weight by some flavor of law enforcement, rather than fortress architecture). Tents are, naturally, pitifully insecure; but you have to go a substantial distance up the food chain before there isn't a fairly obvious flaw that a few reasonably strong guys(bonus points for users) can crack in a couple of minutes.

  14. Re:This should settle the old question by maxwell+demon · · Score: 2

    Are you sure they were spares? ;-)

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  15. Re:Ok.... by Luckyo · · Score: 2

    Those that are designed to be outside would probably last quite well.

    Of course if you're a dumbass like most people and buy indoor stuff for outdoors, you deserve what you get. Though people who have their Ikea failures usually are the same types that get electric shocks from their indoor fans that they move outdoors "because what could happen, right?"

  16. Re:Ok.... by Joce640k · · Score: 4, Informative
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  17. Sounds terrible... by evilviper · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Six months sounds good enough, to me. That's longer than I would want to live in a temporary shelter. Much longer and you're not so much providing humanitarian aid, as you are shipping-in prefabricated houses for many thousands of people.

    Those six months should be ample time to put together enough clay/adobe bricks to build a real, semi-permanent structure, with ample insulation, firebox, etc. Roofing materials might be more difficult, but helping to source those is better than giving out housing you've deemed "acceptable"...

    After 6 months, you should be building-up an economy... Paying some of those local refugees (a truly tiny amount of) money, to construct real homes for their fellow refugees, and hopefully even a few commercial structures.

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    1. Re:Sounds terrible... by Dyne09 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The idea of a refugee settlement utilizing relatively permanent building materials can and does occur, however it's often the case that host governments simply refuse to allow that to happen. A shelter using permanent materials quickly becomes a small town, which lends legitimacy to refugee settlements. Some host governments want mobile tent cities so they can be moved every year or so, or at the very least broken down quickly once what what ever situation is causing the resentment crisis in the first place is resolved. That said, the types of things you're describing tend to happen organically over time, especially with refugee situations that drag on for years. It only makes sense for a number of obvious reasons.

  18. It's about cost by Dyne09 · · Score: 5, Informative

    I have worked in disaster response operations as a logistics and procurement person for six years, including rapid onset refugee settlements. Though I haven't worked directly in camp management, I have worked with purchasing, transporting and setting up these types of tents before. It doesn't say in this article, but other sources point out that even at mass production, the IKEA shelter will cost about twice as much as a canvas tent. At the end of the day, if you're setting up a tent city for 20,000 displaced refugees, that's a difference between 10 and 20 million dollars. Any large aid organization or donor simply isn't going to be able to justify doubling its operation costs. I should also add that one of the selling points of the IKEA structure is that tents only last six months, while these will last years. I don't know how long the UNHCR tents were designed for, but I think it's safe to say that in virtually every settlement I have been to, those tents tend to last longer than six months...alot longer. Usually, the tents are up for multiple years at a time, sometimes reused. This is not a justification for their crappy construction or poor amenities, but I have seen canvas tents that have been one place for six years, so the argument that the IKEA shelters is more economical in the long run isn't grounded in reality. Link to outside info: http://www.npr.org/blogs/parallels/2013/06/27/196356373/new-kind-of-ikea-hack-flat-packs-head-to-refugee-camps?ft=1&f=1004

  19. Re:Ok.... by msauve · · Score: 2

    That's hardly comparable. Try putting one of those in a 2x1x.5 meter box which can be carried by two people, like the Ikea shelter.

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  20. Re:Ok.... by snugge · · Score: 2

    a) It is a prototype. Perfect fit is not expected.
    b) People tend to stay in refugee camps not because of the comfort of the facilities, but due to the fact that WAR still is raging.

  21. Re:Ok.... by mutube · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Also, why the hell would you want to make things more comfortable in a shelter? You do NOT want to give people a reason to stay longer.

    I know, right!

    I heard that back where those refugees came from there are loads of free bullets. Why can't they eat them?! You don't even have bend down to pick them up, they're flying right around in the air at head height!!

    But I guess that's not good enough for them. That's why they're coming over here into the middle of desert, stealing our barren landscape.

    So selfish.

    Excuse me while I go buy a new iPad.

  22. Re:Ok.... by CohibaVancouver · · Score: 2

    Also, why the hell would you want to make things more comfortable in a shelter? You do NOT want to give people a reason to stay longer.

    Exactly right! If you're taking care of refugees, you want to make sure they're as miserable as possible so the better choice is for them to go back 'home' so their daughters can be be raped and their sons can be forced to become child soldiers.

    Fuckwit. Do you even know what a refugee is?

  23. Re:Ok.... by couchslug · · Score: 2

    The best use for shipping containers in refugee situations would be to unload containers holding supplies then use the container with something like the Sea Box kits when it's empty. Of course the rest of the container could be filled with Ikea kits.

    http://www.seabox.com/shelterpak.php

    Containers can be used to make structures used by the group or NGOs providing relief while families live in the tent-ish shelters.

    Containers are stable at high wind velocities, easy to modify with basic equipment, and since they are supported by the end fittings they are easy to elevate above where water may accumulate.

    Place tents in the lee of a container and they are protected from wind. Surround tented areas with containers and have a 360-degree windbreak.

    (I moved my 40-foot High Cubes using an manual Wyeth-Scott comealong, snatch blocks, and chains. I pivoted the ends by supporting one on an 18-wheeler rim while the other rolled on some 8" diameter scrap pipe. I elevated them using bottle jacks and wood cribbing. If one old guy can do that single-handed it's no wonder ISOs are popular worldwide.)

    The use of MIXED solutions using what's available is the way to go.

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