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Spanish Chatbot Hunts For Pedophiles
cylonlover writes "For a number of years now, police forces around the world have enlisted officers to pose as kids in online chat rooms, in an attempt to draw out pedophiles and track them down. Researchers at Spain's University of Deusto are now hoping to free those cops up for other duties, and to catch more offenders, via a chatbot that they've created. Its name is Negobot, and it plays the part of a 14 year-old girl."
(Read the original source, in Spanish).
What could possibly go wrong?
Operation Guillotine is in effect.
If you are a robot you have to tell me...
...which passes the Turing test.
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Let me present you this new technology. It's called "The Internet". You can use it to look for answers to all your questions*.
*: For a fully immersive experience, all your questions should start with "nude pics of "
...and the spanish girls will have to start being even more slutty to compete with the slutbots.
But your honor, I was NOT engaging in pedophile behavior! See, I am really into sex bots! I KNEW it was a script and I get off on them!'
Man.. this bot is going to get laid more than I do, and it's specifically designed to NOT get laid..
unfortunately, in Spain the "undercover agent" is illegal. So, either this bot created at Deusto University (my university, btw) or Flu Ad are great projects that can not be used by Spanish police.
Flu AD is an open source Trojan software designed to infect computers used by pedophiles. It succeeded at least in one case in South America (I don't have the details) and have been studied by Spanish police.
More on Flu AD:
- http://www.slideshare.net/rootedcon/juan-a-calles-y-pablo-gonzlez-metasploit-fluad-avoiding-avs-with-payloadsdlls-injection-rooted-con-2013
- http://www.flu-project.com/
At the same time, Spanish goverment has a project to legalize Trojans in the investigation of serious criminal cases.
regards,
Unless doing so would harm you, or cause harm to come to you.
Science is all about firing a drunk pig out of a cannon just to see what happens.
14 years would be legal age in Germany.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Europe And if I can trust the link, it is 13 in Spain...
How will the bot catch pedophiles if it pretends to be a 14 year old girls? Pedophiles won't be very interested, instead it might, in best/worst case, attract hebephiles. Or just normal teenage boys.
Age of consent in Spain is 13 though they plan to raise it. Seems like a 14 year old is an odd choice to emulate for that reason.
That said, an AI capable of simulating a 14 year old girl? Hard to imagine they could even simulate a 5 year old successfully. This doesn't seem like a good use of a universities resources.
Pity only a small fraction of pedophiles are out looking on the internet. That and the fact that if the penalties are higher, people will do more to hide their crimes, like instead of threatening their victims, they'll lock them up in a basement, or fit them with some cement shoes for a quick dip in the local river.
He tried to kill me with a forklift!
version/language/repository?
Science is all about firing a drunk pig out of a cannon just to see what happens.
*: For a fully incarcerated experience, all your questions should start with "nude pics of "
Given the topic, FTFY.
Live today, because you never know what tomorrow brings
Did someone watch Death Race last night?
sudo make me a sandwich
Fortunately, entrapment is illegal in a lot of countries. And "intent" is not always what counts. I read that that in The Netherlands someone who was having sexually oriented chats with a police officer posing as a child was cleared in court. The judge said that because the police officer was over 18 he did nothing illegal, and that he may have intended something illegal didn't make it so.
To make the car comparison: if I intend to drive too fast and believe I do so dus to a defective meter but in fact I am driving at a legal speed I can't get a ticket.
I thought 14 was the age of consent in Spain. Juanita... come in here. I have to ask you something...
I think the pedo laws are completely out of hand, but the idea that severe penalties will cause molesters to kill their victims is bogus. The kind of person who murders is already sociopathic enough that any amount of penalty is going to be enough to justify murdering their victim. Even if there was absolutely no legal penalty they would still have to worry about parents going vigilante on them.
When information is power, privacy is freedom.
Just wait until these slut-bots start falling to buffer overflows, SQL or shell injection attacks, or whatever.
Your "definition" completely excludes anything resembling pantheism, which basically means you "definiton" excludes most of the world's religion.
Obviously, pantyism revolvers around worshipping something completely else.
Ezekiel 23:20
Pity that people attracted to 14 year olds are not pedodophiles, and they think they will catch pedophiles like this.
Shall we play a game?
This suffers from the usual problems. You need something like a balanced court process to be really sure the person you find really is guilty, and that means letting some 80% sure cases walk free. Also you can't make amends if you find out you killed the wrong person.
Since biologically we're programmed to want sex at 12/13 (when puberty kicks in), this 'fear of sex' is a religious thing more than anything.
Florida has been arresting 14 year olds for sexting their 14 year old boyfriends, IMHO, the NSA should stop spying on 14 years old sexting each other and its a perfectly normal part of growing up to be interested in sex. No more than 'I'll show you mine if you show me yours".
for a moment there i mispronounced the name of the magazine as "jizzmag" and thought that it was rather inappropriate....
I'm sure the reverse engineering effort will be under way shortly, filling up kiddy pron hangouts with lists of phrases to throw at the bots to verify that it's a bot. Compared to actual hackers, kiddy wankers seem to be alot more concious about their own security.
... whatever
Spanish police have an APB out for suspects named 'Eliza', 'Perry', and 'A.L.I.C.E.'
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Yeah... a Christian fundamentalist is going to complain about pantheism not being respected. Definitely.
Gamingmuseum.com: Give your 3D accelerator a rest.
If they make the bot good enough it'll become too hard to tell a kid from a bot with enough certainty for a pedo to be sure they're not walking into a police trap by meeting with the kid...in which case, mission accomplished.
"When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
Maybe I am a bit jaded from recent experience but...
After spending some time this weekend trying to play an online video game with a relative of that age, I have trouble seeing the problem. Trying to explain to him how what he was doing in game was ruining the fun for my wife and I reminded me quite a bit of talking to a chatbot (it was every bit as effective)
"I opened my eyes, and everything went dark again"
Where the men are men, the women are men, and the children are AIs run by FBI agents.
(Is it illegal to write a chatbot that simulates a 14 y.o?)
Some countries already have laws about animated stuff and written erotic fiction...
"When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
"Because water falls haha"
I can't imagine what the question that prompted that answer was and given the topic I'm not sure I want to know.
The previous chat line just says "Know why it seems that way?"
So if we use the same tactics for prostitution...? (rather than an undercover cop acting as a hooker, put a robot)
You bet your ass it'll happen when they get cheap and realistic enough. Hey maybe when there are "fully-featured" fembots they'll actually let the john go through with the act and wait until he hands over the money to call in the raid so the case will be bulletproof.
"When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
This technology does not do good enough translation because the output is a gibberish. Someone who is a native Spanish speaker would be able to tell exactly what "because water falls "jaja"" means. Direct and indirect meanings, whatever it might mean.
1. The speaker could be talking about a waterfall
2. The speaker could be talking about a play
3. The speaker could be hinting on something sexual.
In this small context we do not know, especially since "jaja" is not in a standard dictionary but most likely is a cultural reference, and pneumatically we can only guess what it means. (btw, could it be jojo and the guy than saying that water falls up and down?)
and yes I agree with the poster above -- you are being a troll here.
If it's posing as a 14 year old, they're not targeting pedophiles.
And you know this how...?
Because he has a grasp of the English language that extends beyond calling every gun an "assault rifle", every worthless punk a "terrorist", every deadbeat a "victim of poor credit", and everyone who disagrees with him "faaaaaags"?
Going after 14YOs would make someone an ephebophile, not a pedo.
/ Read a book!
Even Google Translate knows that "jaja" is "haha." I think we can safely assume that the phrase, taken out of context, is someone giving the punchline to a joke.
In the U.S they are sending in the SWAT to break down doors and raid homes based on the opinion of a dog, and in Spain they now want to leave this detail to a chat-bot. What could go wrong?
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And then they decide to legalize prostitution with robots. Before you know it - since all the first bots were owned by the police, the police themselves are entrenched in the business of prostitution with no way out.
Horny men looking for sex with underage extinct birds are all over the Internet, right?
Knowledge is how to play a game, intelligence is how to win, wisdom is knowing what game to play.
Capital punishment for sex crimes that don't kill the victim is illegal in the United States.
However, in the country that brought you The Spanish Inquisition, this might just fly....
Obligatory question: Which head to chop off first?
Knowledge is how to play a game, intelligence is how to win, wisdom is knowing what game to play.
Some countries already have laws about animated stuff and written erotic fiction...
Yes. For example, the United States has a basic law that, according to the courts, say such things are legal unless they are actually obscene (a work doesn't have to portray under-aged characters to be obscene).
Knowledge is how to play a game, intelligence is how to win, wisdom is knowing what game to play.
Man.. this bot is going to get laid more than I do
What's the smallest whole number greater than zero?
PS: I think your statement applies to most /. readers.
Knowledge is how to play a game, intelligence is how to win, wisdom is knowing what game to play.
"If they make the bot good enough it'll become too hard to tell a bot from a kid with enough certainty for a botophile to be sure they are not chatting with an actual 14 year old, in which case the poor botophile will be arrested for doing something he had no intention of doing, namely, chatting up an underaged human being."
There, fixed that for you.
Botophile: Someone who loves to get it on with bots.
Knowledge is how to play a game, intelligence is how to win, wisdom is knowing what game to play.
Or you're in the Time of Eve cafe and everyone is ordered to act human and treat everyone as human.
If I have been able to see further than others, it is because I bought a pair of binoculars.
I don't know but as somebody who used to run a chatroom dedicated to fricking computer repair i can tell you that if the other chat rooms see/saw what i did what those cops are doing is bullshit and how it can't be entrapment? Fuck if I know. I know I ended up having to threaten harassment charges on a couple of cops to get them to finally STFU with that shit.
I mean here I am,running a chat with such "sexy" titles as "Can't install graphics driver" and "Need help bad I keep BSODing" and while me and a couple of the mods would be trying to walk some poor guy that has been bashing his head against the wall trying to get something fixed and suddenly here would come one of those fuckheads, just spewing filthy shit trying to get somebody to talk to them. By the end there i was getting seriously fucking PISSED, cursing the assholes after pointing out for the hundredth time "This isn't that kind of chat asshole, go peddle your "catch a predator" bullshit somewhere else porky".
So if the shit they are doing is the same as what i saw they can fuck right off, they push that shit even in places where it has no damned business and they will harass the hell out of guys to try to get them to talk, really sleazy shit too.
ACs don't waste your time replying, your posts are never seen by me.
Given how fun it can be to bait bots as it is, I could actually see that. I used to get IM bots trying to get me to go see various cam sites and they were quite amusing to screw with.
And why would they need to do that? It's not like "prostitution" is defined in such a way as to include "sex with a machine".
Using a fembot as a prostitution sting is pointless, since it's not illegal to hand money to a robot after banging it. Any more than it is illegal to bang the robot in the first place.
"I do not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"
But what is the legal definition of "obscene"?
In the United States, the Miller Test applies.
Knowledge is how to play a game, intelligence is how to win, wisdom is knowing what game to play.
I have a bad feeling tech journalism forgot all the lessons they should have learned from the Nanniebot hoax.
No law was actually broken.
I know nothing about Spanish law, but if it is anything like American law, then there is no requirement that a real child, or even a second person, be involved. If, while alone in a locked room, you are turned on by a drawing of some stick-figures that could be perceived as under-age children, then you are breaking the law.
Yes, but betcha I know how they will get around that: As the chatbot homes in a suspect, it will offer a Google Map link to a meeting place. Unbeknownst to the suspect, the "I am here" pointer on the image will be a special copyrighted version of the regular map pin. Bingo - much heavier penalties than for mere child rape.
jaja = the sound of laughter. Depending on the context it could be replaced for example with ;-) or ;-D or :-D or LOL etc.
Perl Programmer for hire
Or iCarly? Oops, wrong chat.