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Sound Engineer and Entrepreneur Amar Bose Dead At 83
countach44 writes with the news that Amar Bose, founder of the electronics company that bears his name, has died at age 83. "Dr. Bose founded Bose Corporation almost 50 years ago with a set of guiding principles centered on research and innovation. That focus has never changed, and never will," said Bob Maresca, president of Bose Corporation. "Bose Corporation will remain privately held, and stay true to Dr. Bose's ideals. We are as committed to this as he was to us. Today and every day going forward, our hearts are with Dr. Bose; and we will do everything we can to make him proud of the company he built." The slideshow that accompanies the MIT posting shows some of his sound-related inventions over the years.
No highs. No lows. It's Bose.
Bose had "sound-related inventions"? I thought they were just marketeers with crappy paper cone speakers.
I've yet to like a Bose product, but he obviously made many, many people's life a bit more enjoyable.
Fixed it for you.
Long time ago (Acoustics). It was by far the best class I took as a grad student. He genuinely was not only a great engineer but a great teacher. He showed he movie Stand By Me to the class, and hosted the entire class to a tour of Bose. Most importantly, he was the only professor to really stress that common principles in engineering (lumped parameter model) exist throughout multiple domains, whether electrical, mechanical, or acoustic.
I really hated my experience at MIT for the most part, but his class was one of the few bright moments and I would like to think I am a better engineer because of him.
that their prices will go even higher? I don't understand why people think Bose is high end. I get better sound out of iHome speakers.
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The man was an engineer and a good one at that. It's a shame his company was centred around art. Not that there's anything wrong with that, I have a Bang and Olufsen system here for the simple reason that it sounds ok but looks damn spectacular. The biggest problem with Bose the company was their slogan "Better Sound Through Research." The reality is all of their designs sacrificed good sound in the name of artistic design.
Nothing really innovative has come from the company. The double cube speakers effectively ensure that the room acoustics and design completely wreak any hope of having a proper soundstage, their Accoustimass module is nothing more than a cheap papercone subwoofer which is horn loaded and again prioritises being small over producing good bass, and they seem to be the last to the market with these sound bars which they are trying to sell these days.
They do have a great set of noise cancelling headphones. They do a better job than any other I have worn. It's just a shame their sound isn't up to scratch and their cost is insane (I can get a set of Sennheiser Reference series headphones for cheaper, and I did).
None the less Bose the person and his company have done great things. I credit the popularity of his products to the change in style in sound equipment over the past 10 years. HiFi's used to be something we'd hide in cupboards, heat permitting, yet they have now become the centrepiece of many living rooms.
By and large they don't make expensive gear. And as far as I can tell it isn't much worse than the other mass-market stuff it competes against. Their poor reputation among audio buffs is somewhat deserved but IMO mainly because it is cheapo gear and there is some tradeoff of cost and performance, certainly at the part of the cost curve they are operating in.
It seems to me the poor reputation is because they charge near-audiophile prices for cheap mass-market gear. You don't see companies like Panasonic getting a bad reputation this way, because they don't do this: they sell cheap mass-market gear, at cheap mass-market prices. It's hard to fault someone for paying low-end prices for a low-end product, as that might be all they can afford, and a lot of mass-market stuff really isn't that bad these days (it has a lot of "bang for your buck").
It's like paying Aston-Martin prices for a Ford. Car snobs who own Ferraris aren't going to bash people for buying a Kia or a Ford Fiesta, because they know not everyone can afford a Ferrari like them. But if someone somehow convinced a bunch of people to pay Ferrari prices for a car no better than a Fiesta, a lot of people would be bashing that company for that.
I've never been a fan of Bose home audio equipment: the whole mall-store marketing schtick and, well, um, the actual sound, were enough to put me off.
But they launched the first practical and useful noise-cancelling pilot headphones to the civilian population in 1998, after almost 10 years of military sales, and they quickly dominated the market, even at the then-lofty price of $999. They just plain worked, and worked well. Other manufacturers followed, and sometimes beat Bose's performance in later years, usually at about half the price, but there's no denying that they did pioneering, real audio engineering work in this space.
They were also smart in offering a "panel install" of their proprietary connector into aircraft. If you've owned an aircraft, you'll know that installing anything permamently is (a) expensive and (b) requires a pile of paperwork and (c) you'll never rip it out. The connector eliminated the need for the little battery pack you had to carry around, and provided additional lock-in. Clever. Sucky, but clever.
The Wave radio that "fills the room with sound" on the other hand. Meh.
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They're hardly flat.
9 3.5 inch drivers is an unusual setup.
Wouldn't have paid the price for new ones. $1400 pair last I looked.
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I have listened to and on occasion bought the big B's products.
Like anything ---even /. Listen with an educated ear (or read)
and make up your own mind.
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The only BOSE system that I have ever had was in my Murano. Unfortunately, it was integrated with the environmental system controls, so it took 8 years before Metra came out with a kit to replace it. Finally I was able to replace it with a Kenwood head unit and Infinity Reference speakers. The difference was like night and day.
It's a cartoon video, but it sums up the situation pretty well IMO: "The High End Store"
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A fine man has passed away, a man who belived in research and sharing knowledge. Now look at what this community is able to produce at this very moment. It is sad reading, sad, sad reading.
Imagine what the rest of the world would write if this crowd, the /. crowd closed down? Lets us hope the some would reflect of the wisdome and style of this crowd, on how the site and crowd brought us new knowledge, new ways to share a crowds knowledge in a way that made an impact on many technical branches of an emerging technologies, that set standards that our kids would try to live up to. Imagine that someone you hold high and dear passed away, is this how that person should be remembered on /.?
Save your shitty comments on the company that carries Dr. Boses's name and its products to another day and take 60 seconds away from producing comments and reflect in honour of the passing of a great man.
We have "Beats" now by Dre... The real mastermind in audio tech.
There's a good, measurable, audible reason you want to use low resistance cables for speakers. Speakers have a resonance frequency. When the membrane is pushed/pulled out of the center the membrane will want to move back to the center. Because of the speed it's traveling, it will overshoot that and there's your resonance. To stop that from happening, you'd ideally want the coil that's attached to the membrane to be "shorted out" on the outside. That way, the electrical energy generated by the coil moving over the magnet will be converted in to heat and the resonance will get dampened. Good amplifiers have a "damping rate" that's high. Essentially, that means they are very good at shorting out the speakers to eliminate resonance. The thing is, speakers themselves have a very low impendance, typically 4-8 Ohms. To effectively dampen out those speakers, you'll need a low resistance, way below 1 Ohms. This resistance is for the entire circuit combined, amplifier, speakers and all the connecting terminals in between. Having speaker cables that add a few tenth of an Ohm to this resonance will make your speakers sound "like someone is banging on a cardboard box" for lows and "a bit like a tin can" for highs. This effect is clearly measurable, and audible and has nothing to do with audiophile subjective arguments.
Low resistance cable doesn't mean hellishly expensive by itself. You can get good results by keeping your wires short, using as little interconnects as possible and making sure the resistance at the interconnects is as low as possible. Low resistance is achieved by tightly coupling as much surface area as possible. If you have screw type terminals, make sure to tighten them sufficiently. You usually can get affordable 4mm2 Oxygen Free Copper (OFC) wire for a reasonable price at electronics stores. The wire with the fine strands will remain bendable and in theory will give you "better transients". Since audio frequencies don't really get influenced by that I personally think it's not that important, but having cable that will flex will make it a lot easier to put in place and work with. You could spend fortunes on brand cabling, silver cabling, gold plated silver cabling and whatnot, but for any "normal" application, the 4mm2 copper wire is just fine.
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So much for the lifetime warranty.
Oh, so you mean like the Apple of the auto industry?
No, because by most accounts Apple hardware is actually very good, it's the other stuff that sucks (software that isn't flexible and requires you to do everything the "Apple way" with very little configurability or customizability; iTunes is a bloated pig; Apple styling is somewhat controversial (love it or hate it); arrogance towards customers ("the antenna is fine, you're holding the phone the wrong way"); patent trolling and excessive litigation; etc.).
Citroën has been doing it since 1955, in fact.
Best ride comfort in the business, short of über-luxury rides such as Rolls-Royce, for a fraction of the price.
Eat the rich.
My dad is a Bose reseller, I've heard pretty much all of their products. They're all overpriced shit. My dad honestly thinks they're the best you can get, which is why he became a reseller. I have no idea why he would think that, but I guess being a drummer in an amateur rock band for ~35 years has something to do with it. Bose, it's tinnitus-approved!
As for another highly-marketed and hyped brand, I used to work for Bang & Olufsen. Most of their products aren't shit at all (with a few notable exceptions like re-branded horrendously marked-up MP3 players), and sound rather excellent. They're just over-designed and over-priced for what they are. Unlike Bose, they're actually all very well-built, with good-quality materials. No trickery at all, if looks like it was built from metal and glass, you betcha it's actual metal and glass, not just airbrushed plastic shit. I still have not heard a speaker that sounds better than a Beolab 5, no matter the price.
If you think you want Bose, get Bang & Olufsen instead. You're still paying for design and the name, but at least you'll be getting good sound quality as well.
Eat the rich.