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BlackBerry Cuts 250 Workers, Calls It Efficiency

First time accepted submitter Dawn Kawamoto writes "Want to become more efficient? Try lopping off 250 workers. That's what BlackBerry did this week — saying it was a move to become more efficient. From the article: '“This is part of the next stage of our turnaround plan to increase efficiencies and scale our company correctly for new opportunities in mobile computing. We will be as transparent as possible as those plans evolve,” says Lisette Kwong, a company spokeswoman.'"

68 comments

  1. Efficiency by Chas · · Score: 0, Troll

    Yep! All those sweatshop programmers in China and India are more efficient than the three people left at RIM's office in Canuckistan.

    Next week, they'll announce that they're moving their office to the local StarSchmucks'.

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    1. Re:Efficiency by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      who cares? it's hardly a secret that blackberry had armies of coders they weren't doing anything with.

    2. Re:Efficiency by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This might anger some slashdotters but if you want to change this vote for politicians to lower taxes and stop the healthcare ripoff that is crippling the western world.

      Anger? No, just pity that you don't understand economics.

    3. Re:Efficiency by RabidReindeer · · Score: 1

      Yep! All those sweatshop programmers in China and India are more efficient than the three people left at RIM's office in Canuckistan.

      Next week, they'll announce that they're moving their office to the local StarSchmucks'.

      Of course the sweatshop programmers are different in one way from the 100 North American people. They cannot afford to actually buy BlackBerries on sweatshop salaries.

      Then again, neither can the people who are now jobless.

    4. Re:Efficiency by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why so hung up on healthcare? What percentage of that money goes to our military? You're throwing out numbers, but I'd like to see some citations on your claim that 20% of my salary is going towards "Obamacare" costs.

      As someone whose family was denied health insurance coverage last year: fuck you.

      Luckily, I get paid plenty (hint: a lot more than $60k) and had a lot of money saved up. I'm not looking for a handout, I don't need one. Even so, not being able to find affordable coverage sucks. You have to be part of a group plan and insurers will deny individuals for a whole host of reasons.

      For instance?

      "Are you a woman who has taken fertility drugs at any point in the last five years?" I'm NOT fucking kidding. My wife and I aren't planning on having more kids (in fact, she had an IUD at the time we were applying) but she was denied because we used fertility drugs when trying to get pregnant with our daughter (now four years old).

      And guess what every other insurer asks when you apply? "Have you been denied health insurance coverage for any reason...?"

      We got short term insurance to cover the family until I could find another job. If worse came to worse, there is, thankfully, a state program that provides insurance (for $500/month per individual). That's not really affordable long term (especially for people who aren't software engineers with 10 years of experience).

      Landed in a cushy new job where the health insurance for my whole family costs me $100/month. That's great for me but other people aren't as lucky and I'm happy to contribute a small percentage of my salary to help out others who end up in similar situations.

    5. Re:Efficiency by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and are about as productive as American ones.

      This I can't agree with. I've tried 3 outsourcing firms in the last year, every one of them gave me terrible code, plagiarism from the web (we actually found guys asking for how to implement various deliverables with two of the firms) and just general nonsense and dishonesty.

    6. Re:Efficiency by hutsell · · Score: 1

      "Whenever I cut someone, I call it fun." — Jack Ripper

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    7. Re:Efficiency by Billly+Gates · · Score: 0

      This might anger some slashdotters but if you want to change this vote for politicians to lower taxes and stop the healthcare ripoff that is crippling the western world.

      Anger? No, just pity that you don't understand economics.

      I don't understand economics? When you are losing money which do you do? Spend less or more? Last I heard BB is bleeding.

    8. Re:Efficiency by sjames · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Those programmers with 10 years experience moved on (or became too sick to work due to no healthcare). You get the guys they dragged in off of the street yesterday.

      If you REALLY want to save some cash, outsource the CEO. He's the single most expensive human resource and there's plenty of qualified European CEOs used to working for 1/10th of what an American costs.

    9. Re:Efficiency by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You haven't visited stackoverflow lately, have you? You get what you pay for.

    10. Re:Efficiency by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You really don't know what you are a babbling about. While yes they get paid only a fraction of what a US worker gets. $25,000 in india will buy you a lot better lifestyle than 60k in the US. They are actually getting better benefits than the equivalent US employee.

    11. Re:Efficiency by SoldierII · · Score: 0

      Those programmers with 10 years experience moved on (or became too sick to work due to no healthcare). You get the guys they dragged in off of the street yesterday.

      If you REALLY want to save some cash, outsource the CEO. He's the single most expensive human resource and there's plenty of qualified European CEOs used to working for 1/10th of what an American costs.

      I could not agree more on this!

    12. Re:Efficiency by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He is* European - he's from germany

  2. it is highly efficient by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    if the 250 being canned wore suits and ties to work (i.e. management or executive types)

    1. Re:it is highly efficient by SnarfQuest · · Score: 0

      If these employees were coal stokers for bilers that they haven'r had for 50 years, but must keep those unneeded jobs because the Union required it, the they won't be missed.

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  3. the ultimate in efficienty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm now efficiently unemployed. my whole family loves feeling so efficient!

  4. Clickbait Summary and Dice article. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You know, laying off staff can improve efficiency if they're not doing anything useful or have become surplus to requirements. There's a reason it's called "being made redundant."

    P.S. Fuck you Dice, /. was a news aggregator long before you ever came along and probably will be long after you've folded. If I wanted to read half-baked op-ed pieces I'd buy a fucking newspaper.

    1. Re:Clickbait Summary and Dice article. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dice is pants.

    2. Re:Clickbait Summary and Dice article. by CanHasDIY · · Score: 2

      You know, laying off staff can improve efficiency if they're not doing anything useful or have become surplus to requirements. There's a reason it's called "being made redundant."

      I've always felt that way about board members; all I ever see them do (on the rare occasion they even show up) is go into catered meetings and bullshit with each other.

      And those dickheads are being paid millions for... well, to be honest I have no fucking idea. Wearing suits, I guess.

      P.S. Fuck you Dice, /. was a news aggregator long before you ever came along and probably will be long after you've folded. If I wanted to read half-baked op-ed pieces I'd buy a fucking newspaper.

      ^ making me wish I had mod points.

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    3. Re:Clickbait Summary and Dice article. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      These guys have a surefire 100% plan for beating Obamacare!

      They're Canadian.

    4. Re:Clickbait Summary and Dice article. by imikem · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This. At risk of feeding the Obamacare troll, Canada hasn't had much change in their healthcare system since going socialized quite a few years ago. For some reason the terrible costs and market distortion from it didn't stop RIM/Blackberry from becoming iconic in the 2000s. So we are to believe that healthcare is the cause of their decline now? That it has nothing to do with hubris, inertia and having their asses kicked by Apple and Android vendors?

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    5. Re:Clickbait Summary and Dice article. by lgw · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So when your manager says "I don't understand what you do, so it must be easy" he's some kind of genius, right?

      Mostly board members are due diligence on the senior execs. If everything is going well, and the CEO's not trying to make any big changes this quarter, they don't need to do much. If the company didn't make it's numbers, they're the ones who can fire the CEO if he doesn't appease them (and I've seen the CEO of a company I've worked for fired twice now -it really does happen). If the CEO wants to re-org the company, make an acquisition, or add some new line of business, he has to sell that to the board.

      "All" the board members do is use their judgment - but they have lots of money at stake, and CEOs are champions bullshitters as a rule, so the decisions are rarely easy or obvious.

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    6. Re:Clickbait Summary and Dice article. by ralphaostrander · · Score: 0

      Republitardation and mouth monkeying that failure of a human Palin, passes for a political party in America now.

    7. Re:Clickbait Summary and Dice article. by kamapuaa · · Score: 1

      The largest Canadian corporation (Royal Bank of Canada) would be the 36th largest corporation in the US (by Capitalization). RIM is still the largest Canadian corporation that really has an international presence; everything larger than RIM it is either a national/regional bank or is in the work of selling off Canada's natural resources. Maybe it's true that Canadian Obamacare and the like make it more difficult for Canadian companies to sustain growth.

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    8. Re:Clickbait Summary and Dice article. by CanHasDIY · · Score: 1

      If you think verbal diarrhea is a behavior exclusive to Republicans, you haven't been listening to any Democrats.

      When a boot smashes your face, it doesn't really matter if it's the Right one or the Left one, does it?

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    9. Re:Clickbait Summary and Dice article. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In Canada, the employer is not responsible for health insurance, the province is.

  5. Dice not even trying to hide it now? by newcastlejon · · Score: 1

    It's almost enough to make me wish Roland was still around.

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    1. Re:Dice not even trying to hide it now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's almost enough to make me wish Roland was still around.

      With a blind-spot that large for unintended consequences, it's a wonder you're not in Congress.

  6. "turnaround plan" by NoNonAlphaCharsHere · · Score: 2

    See: "auger in"

    1. Re:"turnaround plan" by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 1

      This does not augur well for the company.

  7. Outsourcing ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A friend just moved to New York to work doing blackberry software, before was doing embedded qnx, with him went two more programmers from the small shop in monterrey where was contracted

  8. Cut everyone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They should cut 100% of their workers. Who the heck uses blackberry anyway?

    1. Re:Cut everyone by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      Just a minute, I'll check for that on my iPhone.

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    2. Re:Cut everyone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People who either -(1) aren't gay....hi apple! or -(2)don't want to be in google's spy program

    3. Re:Cut everyone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Posting anon just in case I'm not suppose to talk about this stuff. I was at the agm. The big question everyone kept asking is why is blackberry struggling with only the US market. And stockholders kept complaining about wallstreet monkeying with the stockprice. I think if they weren't making money in the US market they would be giving it the finger and not looking back.

  9. 250?! by multiben · · Score: 2

    I didn't know there was even 250 blackberry users let alone staff.

    1. Re:250?! by musikit · · Score: 1

      they recently cancelled their playbook.
      the aspect ratio on the q10 is a 1:1 why? wth? now i have to support 3 aspect ratios in my games? umm no.
      their dev environment isnt that great.
      uploads to devices are capped at 1meg per sec.
      i can't kill -9 a process. so i need to reboot the phone whenever i put an infinite loop in.
      they really should have loaded their software on top of android and been done with it. immediate developer support in a slightly better dev environment.
      MS and BB are really two companies in the mobile market that took the bad crap that google and apple did and copied it. then added their own bad crap on top.

    2. Re:250?! by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      And this is why it is efficient to have fewer staff than users.

    3. Re:250?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I didn't know there was even 250 blackberry users let alone staff.

      Just replaced my nexus with one, I love this phone.

    4. Re:250?! by narcc · · Score: 0

      they really should have loaded their software on top of android and been done with it. immediate developer support in a slightly better dev environment.

      You're either unfamiliar with BlackBerry development or unfamiliar with Android development.

      (Android development is a nightmare. WTF was Google thinking?)

    5. Re:250?! by Octorian · · Score: 4, Informative

      i can't kill -9 a process. so i need to reboot the phone whenever i put an infinite loop in.

      That's because the QNX command for this is slay, which does work and basically does the same thing.

    6. Re:250?! by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 2

      Why concern ourselves with facts when we can get a good baseless bash on?

    7. Re:250?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I run a lot of Android apps on my Q10 by converting the .apk to .bar and sideloading it.

      Some don't work; a LOT of them do.

      So if all these apps can handle the 1:1 screen without being coded to do so - what Android device has a 1:1 screen? - it can't be THAT damned hard.

  10. Apple the iPhone (4S) company by tuppe666 · · Score: 1

    Just a minute, I'll check for that on my iPhone.

    A minute to check a fact...you need a quad core...and a larger screen...maybe on the next refresh.

    They are not using iPhones http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS23946013 IDC's latest figures show Apple market share at 20% with Android at 70%. Apples highlight of its quarterly reporting was its iPhone sales were down from last quarter...but still better than expected (its other products a disaster) showing its incredible resilience in America...and its strategy of providing the 4S at a lower price(everywhere else was a disaster...China particularly bad).

    1. Re:Apple the iPhone (4S) company by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Disaster, lol. I need a $6.9 billion disaster.

  11. 32.5 Million Shipments in 2012 by tuppe666 · · Score: 1

    http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS23946013 by IDC's last figures 32.5Million shiments. Blackberry is suffering right now, but they are sill selling lots of phones. The trend is the real problem...its down.

    1. Re:32.5 Million Shipments in 2012 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      omg. a tuppe666 post that isn't attacking Apple or cheerleading Google. are you sick bro? Did your Chromebook Pixel break?

    2. Re:32.5 Million Shipments in 2012 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you probably should use the latest figures not the old numbers. June numbers show some rather dismal figures for blackberry with 6.3 million shipping for the first quarter this year including 1 million BB10 devices. they are down 35% YoY and the slide isn't slowing.

  12. Lucky losers by ElitistWhiner · · Score: 1

    250 got out with their lives and only lost their jobs

  13. they're being truthful by sribe · · Score: 3

    It is efficiency. They're cutting testing & qa staff. That's what customers are for!

  14. I am going to go out on a limb here. by ralphaostrander · · Score: 1

    And predict more cuts in the future.

  15. Probably what the company needs to do by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As bad as this sounds, Blackberry as a company is not doing well. So, financially, they need to downsize. It sucks for the people who are laid off but at the end of the day the company needs to cut costs or it will go bankrupt very quickly. In which case these people will probably lose their jobs too.

    So, best for them to get out of Blackberry and on with their lives.

  16. Scaling Factor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "plan to increase efficiencies and scale our company"

    A -5.0 scaling factor is STILL a scale!
    Just not a scale up... it's down.. as in downscaling...

  17. First time accepted submitter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ya know, it's one thing to have every 3rd story be something to do with jobs or hiring and/or posting things from people who only do 'sponsored' links (ie; Nerval's Lobster), but when you just flat out lie it's quite another. Not only is "Dawn Kawamoto" a Dice mouthpiece, this is the sixth article posted by her this year alone. Do you seriously think we don't notice or remember these things?

    ::sigh:: Seriously, I dunno why I still visit here. I guess it's because I've yet to find another site that sucks less than Reddit. Anyone have suggestions?

    1. Re:First time accepted submitter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You seriously consider /. to be better than reddit? You know there's more subs than /r/spacedicks right?

  18. Lemme guess, by mark_reh · · Score: 2

    the CEO got a bonus for coming up with the idea.

  19. remove healthcare from jobs by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    It's hurts next to other places where employers do not need to pay for worker health insurance coverage. And they don't need to play games with hours to get around having to give people it as well.

  20. Lisette? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Suddenly this makes this Lisette all hot, I am feeling an irresistible urge to fuck her.

  21. Outsource! by RubberDogBone · · Score: 1

    Heck, BB can just get the carriers to do product testing.

    Oh wait. That would require carriers who want the product badly enough. So, that's Rogers. Anybody else? Zimbabwe Mobile? Dunno.

    Actually slashing R&D is what you do when you are out of ideas and plan to rebrand as something that doesn't need R&D. Like just becoming an App. Or a sub-brand, like Sony Experia Zeta 99 powered by Blackberry. Kinda like the Facebook phone. And that worked out just fine, right?

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  22. Dice.com opinion piece? by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 1

    A dice.com opinion piece with clickbait headline? That's what we're getting here alongside our daily ration of infoworld articles?

    I really need to take my own advice and not bother coming back - but somehow, I still end up doing it every week or two.

  23. Focus, Blackberry by ikhider · · Score: 1

    Blackberry makes good business devices. I prefer their tactile keypads over a touch screen any day. However, I found it weird when kids and casual users were getting BB phones. Suddenly BB was trying to be all phones to all people. BB gained traction because the business world saw their devices as a useful tool. They ought to focus on that market instead of trying to gain bigger market share. If you try to be all things to all people, you will get nowhere. Stick with the business crowd, make apps and tools useful to them. I don't care if Justin Bieber, Drake or Beyonce uses BB devices and neither should Blackberry. However, if Bernanke, Buffet, or Kim Shannon uses it--that means something--and that is who BB should care about and focus on. Let the kids and celebs use the other phones to play with.

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    1. Re:Focus, Blackberry by damnbunni · · Score: 1

      Apparently BB devices were mostly popular with suits in the US, but overseas their low-end models were really popular with teens. Probably for the same reason the Sidekick used to be; hardware keyboard and good instant messaging software.

  24. Alicia Keys by purpledinoz · · Score: 1

    Is Blackberry still sending wheelbarrows full of money to their "Global Creative Director", Alicia Keys?

  25. I weep for their OS. If they could just FOSS and by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I weep for their OS. If they could just FOSS and license their system instead of doing it all in house...
    Always a shame seeing good tech wasted on a backwards development model. Sure, the consumers wouldn't mind whatever it is that running their angry birds, but the majority of devs do and would prefer foss time and time again.
    The only thing Apple and Microsoft have for themselves is the slow and stable release cycle and native development. This, at least, appeals to companies looking to make some money without too much maintenance overhead. Anyone who is actually interested in developing something more interesting then candy crush or microsoft office, will just not bother developing it over the closed system.

  26. We need more technology workers! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All I hear is that we need MORE technology workers, when there is a monthly story about a purge. I used to keep track of the total number of people purged from technology companies, but lost count over the past few years as IBM, Microsoft, HP, and so on keep purging workers at a pace I can't keep up with. The list is long, and out of all those purged workers, there should be enough to supply needs for many years.

    The next bloodbath is going to be SQL Server admins. For a decade or so, companies have been dumping programmers and in-house software and buying vertical-market packages which are backed by a SQL Server instance, hence a big demand for SQL Server admins right now. But Microsoft is going to put SQL Server instances in Azure, and companies will be able to host both their vertical-market packages in "the cloud" as well as SQL Server instances. No admins needed. SQL Server admins are about the only thing left for companies to purge.

    Some of the best, most experienced admins will get jobs at datacenters, but only a few. The rest will join the ranks of the surplus unemployed.