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Samsung Develops World's Fastest Embedded Memory With eMMC 5.0 Support

hypnosec writes "Samsung has announced the world's fastest NAND memory that supports the eMMC 5.0 standard. The new memory chips are based on 10nm class NAND flash technology and feature an interface speed of 400MB/s. Further, the 32GB and 64GB densities have a random read and write speed of 7,000 IOPS (inputs/outputs per second) while the sequential read and write speeds stand at 250MB/s and 90MB/s respectively. The chips will provide for better multitasking, HD video recording, gaming and browsing."

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  1. Re:"The chips will provide for..." by pipatron · · Score: 2

    Well, to be honest, it won't provide for faster bitcoin crunching, gene folding, UFO findings, 3D rendering, slashdot posting, and other tasks popular with contemporary users of computing devices.

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  2. Re:"The chips will provide for..." by viperidaenz · · Score: 2

    Should it be reworded like "The chips will provide for better anything that requires the ability to read or write persistent data at any point in the process"?
    That would be more accurate.

  3. Yay slashvertisement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And how many write cycles? HOW MANY CYCLES?

  4. Re:"The chips will provide for..." by DigiShaman · · Score: 2

    With a standard HDD, the car's speed is slower. But most importantly, it takes time to accelerate and decelerate (the actuator arm). With an SSD, the car can accelerate instantly to 4x + times the speed limit and stop instantly as well as though you had some inertial damping field in effect. Whatever, it's FAST!

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  5. Re:hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Well, let's say this Twinkie represents the normal number of I/O operations per second in the mobile arena. Based on this article's sample, it would be a Twinkie... thirty-five feet long, weighing approximately six hundred pounds.

  6. Multimedia Experience by Reliable+Windmill · · Score: 2

    Will they also provide a richer multimedia experience, more vibrant colors, and increased productivity? I hate these dumbed-down explanations of the benefits of some new computer technology.

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  7. How an SSD could speed up 3D rendering by tepples · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I agree with most of your examples, but I can think of a situation where an SSD might help with faster 3D rendering. The soft-real-time 3D renderer in a video game is often bottlenecked by the speed of loading textures into RAM. If you've ever seen the blurfest that is the start of an Unreal Engine 3 level before the textures pop into focus, you know what I'm talking about. There's a reason that PC games load faster when installed to SSD.

    1. Re:How an SSD could speed up 3D rendering by InvalidError · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Even better: put enough RAM in your PC so all the files get loaded into the OS' disk cache. This won't help the initial load time but once everything is loaded into disk cache, applications and games hardly ever have to touch the HDD/SSD again until you reboot your PC or load some other big game or application.

      When gaming sites do computer reviews and evaluate the impact of extra RAM on games, they should benchmark the initial load time separately from reloading times. I bet more RAM would have nice performance benefits even on SSDs in such a scenario.

      SSDs may be faster but not as fast as having enough RAM that you can bypass SSD accesses altogether.

  8. Re:"The chips will provide for..." by arth1 · · Score: 2

    Well, to be honest, it does say "embedded".

  9. Re:"The chips will provide for..." by gagol · · Score: 2

    But this chip is destined to live in your upcoming cell phone, NOT your desktop. This is the news.

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  10. Re:"The chips will provide for..." by Rockoon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It won't provide for faster anything I do on my computer, because I already have faster chips in my desktop.

    I'm pretty sure that you do not have faster flash chips in your desktop.

    What you have is a faster array of flash chips, a combination that only exceeds the performance here when they operate in parallel.

    Now imagine these 10nm chips in an array....

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  11. Re:hmm by Rockoon · · Score: 5, Informative

    It is about 0% faster for reads than just-released products, while about -50% faster for writes and -70% faster for IOPS.

    That doesnt seem to be true. Those produces use many chips to attain their (essentially they are a RAID-0 of many flash chips) , while this is a single chip.

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  12. Re:Another Slasdot paid ad by Rockoon · · Score: 2

    SATA SSD's dont need faster flash at this time because the SATA consortium was too short sighted to see the need for a much fatter pipe, and because thats the bulk of the desktop SSD market, nobody is developing faster flash intended for desktop use. Mobil devices on the other hand...

    This will eventually bleed over into PCIe solutions, but its hard to imagine extensive assembly lines for the purpose.

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  13. Re:"The chips will provide for..." by Holmwood · · Score: 2

    and "based on 10nm class NAND flash technology" is at best highly misleading. It's 19nm technology.

    Parity News might better be tagged Parity Spin, as might this summary.

    What Samsung is doing with NAND is actually reasonably impressive -- 19nm is very good, and their TLC stuff in the 840 looked pretty good, and the performance/reliability/value of the 840 EVO looks to be extremely good for a non-enthusiast consumer drive. Sad they feel they need ridiculous spin on top of some very respectable achievements.

  14. Re:Another Slasdot paid ad by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 2

    This will eventually bleed over into PCIe solutions, but its hard to imagine extensive assembly lines for the purpose.

    Do we have server boards with flash slots alongside the RAM slots yet? That has to be coming - I keep hanging SSD's, which are mostly packaging, off of SATA cables for caching purposes and it seems silly.

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  15. Re:"The chips will provide for..." by unixisc · · Score: 4, Informative

    Embedded memory does not mean memory for embedded applications. It means memory that is included as a part of a larger subsystem, sometimes in a multi-chip module (MCM), sometimes in a package-on-package (POP), and the 2 main reasons for it is typically real estate constraints, as well as performance. For instance, this chip is a NAND flash that could go into MCMs that include application processors or basebands in cellphones, or it could be a part of multi-memory packages, where it's combined w/ DDR3 DRAM to provide all the memory that a portable app - such as a cell phone or GPS unit - may need.

    I am curious about their 'random read and write' claims - NAND flash does not do random reads or writes: it reads or writes in pages, and so an entire buffer has to be filled before one can write anything. NOR flash is what has the random read and write: one erases in sectors/blocks and programs in bits/bytes/words. Samsung happens to make both, last I checked, so it's not inconceivable that they've combined the 2, and are offering the combination in a single package. But I'd like to know whether that's the case here.