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Snowden Granted One-Year Asylum In Russia
New submitter kc9jud writes "The BBC is reporting that NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden has been granted temporary asylum in Russia. According to his lawyer, Snowden has received the necessary papers to leave the transit zone at Sheremetyevo Airport in Moscow, and the airport press office is reporting that Snowden left the airport at 14:00 local time (10:00 GMT). A tweet from Wikileaks indicates that Snowden has been granted temporary asylum and may stay in the Russian Federation for up to one year."
Reader Cenan adds links to coverage at CNN, and other readers have pointed out versions of the story at Reuters and CBS.
Guess that gives him 1 year to plan and execute his trip to South America.
Asylum seeks you!!
...aaaaaaaaaaand he's gone. Hopefully out of reach of all repressive regimes, including the USA.
http://news.slashdot.org/story/13/07/25/2135207/us-lawmakers-want-sanctions-on-any-country-taking-in-snowden
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Sorry to all you Republican-lite libertarian freedom-lovers, but metadata was never private communications.
Metadata is everything EXCEPT your private communication, including NOT communicating.
When third-parties know all your metadata, that means it's NOT private. Do you know how many dozens of people/companies see your IP headers as it goes across the internet? Are you Republican-lites dumb enough to think that kind of metadata was supposed to be private?
The only private communications are the ones only between sender and receiver, which the NSA does not spy on without a warrant, per US constitution's 4th amendment.
Also, every single NSA employee is well aware of constitutional law as well as the Posse Comitatus act. If there WERE illegal activities at the NSA, you would know about it from actual employee leakers, like what happened during your beloved Bush administration, when several bona-fide employees leaked the illegal activities of the Bush administration under evil Dick Cheney.
Sorry to all you Slashdot Republican-lite libertarians, but the NSA under Democratic leadership is VASTLY different from the Republican party that you idolize.
That is because the Democratic party is vastly different from your dearly beloved Republican party.
Or did you think the Republicans were going to pass socialized health-care?
Everything you Republican-lites believe in is 100% incorrect. Just stop now with your dumb ideas. Don't ever have your dumb ideas anymore. You're just not smart enough. Your small-government libertarian theories is for 12-year-olds, backwater rednecks, and really poor high-school dropouts, like Edward Snowden and other morons that think people with low power have "freedom." These are some of the most insanely dumbest theories in the world that no adult takes seriously just dumb as rocks.
A big government is much better than a small government. We liberals know that, and intend to grow the power of government at the expense of private parties.
We liberal socialists do NOT want private parties to have unlimited powers. We prefer to control private parties so they don't gain too much power. There is nobody in this world that is interested in giving private citizens unlimited powers, regardless of what you free-market libertarian hippies want to believe.
Life is not about what you want to do. It is about what we want to do.
The only thing the Republican-lites need to do is follow the orders of us liberals.
Thanks.
He'd better be careful. If he waits a few more months, he'll be snowed-in and unable to leave at all.
Since the CIA can't outright shoot him, they'll just alter a few videos to make it look like he's gay in Russia.
Wow. Just. Wow.
I'll think of it as forever.
"There may be a time where it would be constructive to try and meet and ... resolve this in a way that honors due process and the highest principles of fairness and civilization,"
Seems resolved to me. What remains to be sorted out:
* who is accountable for all of the laws broken by the NSA
* what programs they still have in place which are illegal
* when these illegal programs will be terminated
Let's not forget, if the NSA/US had followed the letter of the law, Snowden's claims would have been pointless.
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He would be thrown incommunicado into a U.S. prison and never let out again if he ever came back here. We all know his trial would just be a show trial.
The cow says "Moo." The dog says "Woof." The Timothy says "Thanks, valued customer. We appreciate your input."
Snowed in no longer airport!
Just tell the Russians he left his ballet/pole dancer girlfriend to be hang with Putin or something
Snowden gets one year asylum.
I also have a joke about a farmer. He doesn't have three lovely daughters and you need to share a bed with him.
I don't know whether to laugh or cry. "We" had absolutely nothing to do with any of this, and the bluff you are talking about sure as hell wasn't "ours".
Do you not realize that every time you refer to the government's actions, words, or decisions as "ours" you are lending support to THEM, rather than yourself?
The 1 year asylum means they get to pump him for information for the next year and have an exclusive on any information he produces. What information he has is perishable and the US public will forget about this and he will be useless to the Russians by then. They will then decide not to grant permanent asylum and expel him from Russia. He will be right back where he is now but with no spotlight to protect him and a pile of useless information.
http://rt.com/news/snowden-entry-papers-russia-902/
Although it's almost the same as bbc/reuters .. still. Would think that russian news outlet would be included as an alternative.
Just for the sake of argument, let's assume Russia actually has some interest in abstract justice for Snowden. (Yeah, I know, they are probably more interested in being able to accuse the US of abuses so they can excuse their own - I'm sure we can paint the Russian decision in all sorts of unflattering lights - Hell, just claim it's really the third step in their nefarious plan for world domination and comes just after "build secret base in active volcano" and just before "kill Bond in elaborate but unsupervised deathtrap" if you want, but remember there are people assuming the same about ALL sides in this mess.).
A year from now, the Russians will know what sentence Bradley Manning got. They'll know if the hunger strikes and forced feedings at Gitmo drew any congressional support for finally cleaning up Gitmo. Some of the various less touted whistleblower cases now in the courts will have resolved. There will probably be other revelations about the NSA, the US will be mostly out of Afghanistan, and so on.
The Russians can judge whether Snowden's claims are objectively reasonable. And whether the US tries to paint the Russian's decision in as negative light as possible, or not, all those other nations will also be looking at what the US does more than just how the Russians responded. The next Asylum seeker will probably flee to some other country. The next public statement after the Manning sentencing will probably come from some other country. If the US dwells too much on Snowden, then every diplomatic action involving those other countries will be interpreted in the worst possible way by the court of world opinion, if only because the US will appear to be stuck in a rut and not learning from, or admitting to, its mistakes. These events keep starting in the US, and Russia and other countries are only reacting to what starts here - there's no way the US is going to convince much of anybody that those reactions are the big problem and not the initial actions.
Who is John Cabal?
I'll think of it as forever.
And we will think of you as an idiot, which you
quite obviously are.
First Lenun !! Then Stalun !! And Putun !! Now Snowdun !! See the connections !! The similarities !! All Commie Bastards !!
The media will be hounding him. So file false reports to the press to confuse them. The more unseen he stays, the safer for him. Call your local news station, and tell them:
"I saw Snowden downtown flipping burgers next to Elvis!"
"Snowden just boarded a fishing boat in the Black Sea!"
"I just saw Snowden on the Trans-Siberia line!"
Let's all help keep Snowden out of sight.
Schroedinger's Brexit: The UK is both in and out of the EU at the same time!
Just what do you think would happen to a Russian citizen who leaked a ton bucket load of FSB secrets? I can tell you what - they'd be dead within a week. Last time I looked the USA didn't assasinate opposition politicians (look up Sergei Yushenkov amongst others), do show trials of citizens who pissed off putin and send them off for 20 years hard labour and poison citizens who've sort asylum in other countries eg Alexander Litvinenko. And you think the USA looks WORSE than a country that does this simply because they quite rightly want to arrest a traitor??
You "poor oppressed liberal us" stick-it-to-the-man types need to really need to wake up and never mind smell the coffee, inject the bloody stuff and get a grasp of reality!
What illegal activity has Snowden actually revealed? The leaked slides I've read so far indicate the NSA are:
Can someone please calmly and rationally clarify or illuminate evidence which suggests or proves the NSA are doing anything nefarious (e.g., hacking into personal computers, tapping databases containing private information, installing key loggers) with their alleged spying activities?
The excitement and emotion around this issue are running high, generating noise that drowns out sane analysis. If I go onto a crowded street and speak loudly, I can't complain if others overhear. Likewise, if I send information across a public network that's not encrypted, I can't complain if it gets intercepted. Nor can I bemoan the loss of privacy if I put private information in the hands of a third party that I don't trust.
Privacy only exists when protected. Lock it away, encrypt it, or take some measure to safeguard anything you consider sensitive. Otherwise, consider anything you put out in the open fair game for others to use.
I'm sorry, which programs were illegal and which laws were broken? I'm sure you missed the news that these laws were written and passed by the House and Senate, funded by same, and just recently re-affirmed in the House.
See, that's the thing about "laws" - they're written by the legislature and confirmed by the executive branch. Unless and until the judicial branch finds them to be technically inadequate or violating the constitution, they ARE the law. It's how a representative democracy works. Or would you rather have a dictatorship, a monarchy? Perhaps you hold up Russia as a shining light of transparency, liberty, and justice?
Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
See, the funny thing about a constitutional republic is that the legislature, executive branch, and judiciary do not have the authority to exceed nor violate that constitution. They have the ability to do so, but authority? Not even remotely.
In SOVIET RUSSIA... erm...NSA AMERICA, the Internet logs onto YOU!
The Obama Terror State, formerly the United States of America, is showing a 'crack' and his Disposition Matrix has developed a rather big hole.
But Obama's greatest flaw is himself.
"Oh, those Russians!"
You joke, but the military is very quick and free to trot that idea out. "He did it because he is gay" as if being gay makes a person more likely to leak information, I mean, commit treason. Some of Bradley Manning's posts I ran across would seem to show he might indeed be gay. Then it occured to me those posts might be fakes.
The 1989 gun turret explosion on the USS Iowa was a classic. The navy put out this ridiculous hypothesis that Clayton Hartwig, a sailor who died in the disaster, was gay and so sexually frustrated that he was suicidal and deliberately caused the explosion. Under pressure, the navy dropped the gay part but clung on to the idea Hartwig was suicidal and did it on purpose. As the disaster was investigated further, it became even more painfully obvious that the navy was doing a cover up. The real reason was that they were using experimental mixings of explosives that if not rammed slowly could prematurely detonate. Strangest was that the officer the navy picked to lead the investigation was the same guy who made the experimental mix.
And remember, some of the most radical social conservatives advanced this absurd notion that 9/11 happened because America is too tolerant of homosexuality. Just the other day I stopped in at my insurance agent's office and heard Limbaugh on their radio, ranting about the possibility that Trayvon Martin might have been gay and tried to sexually assault Zimmerman. I don't expect any better of those retards, but we should have smarter military leaders than that. No General Boykins! May be hard to do. I suppose a military career is attractive to simpletons who think force is a good answer to most problems.
Intellectual Property is a monopolistic, selfish, and defective concept. It is "tyranny over the mind of man"
This is just the beggining of the judicial battle. The next step will be Hon. Judge James Robart revoking his asylum.
he would get a disguise and sneak out of Moscow and head east and go in to hiding in the Ural mountains or east of the Urals or in Mongolia or Western China, somewhere where he wont be found by either the Russian Govt or the US Govt, maybe sneak in to Vietnam
Politics is Treachery, Religion is Brainwashing
More news coverage about the whistleblower, not about the crimes he uncovered. Journalism is dead.
What was the rank of Lonnie Snowden, Edward Snowden's father, in the Coast Guard? I cannot find this information neither in wiki nor in google.
The "evidence" is all on the net. Well, I keep reading those slides. Where do those slides say Apple, Facebook, Microsoft, or Google (or anyone else) are sending data to the NSA?
I don't even know for sure if that's literally true but it damn well is worth reminding people: a contract has terms for both parties. We know Snowden violated his terms, but do we know he went first?
Was his consideration purely his paychecks? I know a lot of people go into various branches of government service (everywhere from the mundane office work, to the "glory" of being a warrior) merely as a job, but if you ask people why they work where they work, that's not what all (or even most) of them say. I've never talked (knowingly ;-) to NSA people, but I've talked to 19 year-old-army recruits, 40 year old unemployment insurance workers, a few cops (though it's been a long time), etc and damned if I haven't heard some idealism and oldschool civics from time to time. Do you think those people are lying about why joined the organization? Some, maybe, but not most of them.
There's an expectation that the service has a purpose, and that it's a good purpose. I don't give a flying fuck whether or not "the government shall act in good faith to promote the interest of its citizens" is explicitly written in ink on the workers' contracts or not, because if you get that anal about it, then the very idea of any contracts every having any validity itself becomes nebulous.
Whose place is it to decide whether or not the government has violated its contracts? Everyone's. If you don't believe that, then ask anyone their opinion about Nazi war criminals, to get a better explanation within the context of an easy black/white example. Sure, today's examples are harder and blurrier, but the responsibility hasn't moved.
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And the US Constitution and bill of rights are restored.
All this crap goes away as it should. (Ya Listening NSA?)
It really is that simple.
Because the Rule of Law becomes restored.
Your dual Israeli citizen can't hold office with the Constitution as the law of the land. They have to have their secret courts to kill the goyem in, they have to have control of the monetary system, they have to have control of the security clearances. It's no coincidence--go LOOK who is in control! Oh and I bet you didn't know they have a RITUAL to UNBIND their OATH OF OFFICE..
It isn't I hate Jews, I Have Jewish in my FAMILY, in my BLOOD (along with even an early president), I mean god damn it, I have an "old Bessy" that I love. it's that I hate zionist oath breaking scum. Ya know? When I got my security clearance it was a big deal, I had hell of butterflies in my stomach--have I ever done something wrong? I wondered.. See because when I SERVE I MEAN TO SERVE JUST LIKE THE OATH I TOOK SAID. I stayed drug free I upheld the Constitution whenever I saw problems. And I did see problems. I saw sexual battery in the Military, I saw theft, I saw Drugs, I saw people denounce the Constitution and helped get their ass rolled up to Ft Leavenworth. This isn't a game. It's what makes our country great, it's why I served even after listening to my Uncle tell stories about tailgunning in S Africa. It's why my dad taught me how to build a fire and keep it from burning the whole fucking forest down, it's why before he left, he taught me to shoot, and keep firearms. My dad was US Army, My mom STILL works for the government goin on 55 years now! The banksters in that light are a disaster, what will they be allowed to destroy the (voluntary) TSP, and the (grandfathered) GOVT PENSION as well? IT Looks headed that way... Contrast my family to that of Feinstein. All of us gave it up. All of us did. Feinstein is a war profiteer, inside trader, oath breaker, and not really a naturally born citizen. There seems to be an unlimited supply of oath breaking pieces of shit who are not naturally born inside the US.
The deal is this, that bitch sworn an oath, and she broke it. Fuck anything she says.. FUCK ANYTHING.
There's more senators to go after, but this one needs to have her fucking inside trading hands bound to Ft Leavenworth for longer than the threat of time for Manning!
This bitch broke the public trust. Secret Courts deciding Secret Law. WHat the FUck is that?! Sure the fuck isn't the US Constitution and the bill of rights. The people don't even know what the LAW IS ANYMORE! because their corruption, insolence and treason the people do not know what the law even is.
And that wasn't by accident. I mean why do you need a LAWYER to translate LAW to ENGLISH?
This country is either going to say fuck this Military Corporate Dictatorship or a lot of people on Earth are going to be SLAVES, OR DEAD.
The NSA database as it currently exists needs an extra helping of mARBLECAKE.
Starting with CUTTING OFF THE FIOS SPLITTERS, AND THE CABLES GOING OUT, AND TEARING THE VAULTS DOORS OFF.
Then DESTROYING ALL THOSE HARDDRIVES WITH SHIT ON THEM. ALL THE BACKUPS. AND ANYONE CAUGHT WITH A COPY GETS DEATH ON THE SPOT, ALSO PEOPLE WHO ALREADY HAD THEIR DATA EXPLOITED GET TO CHANGE THEIR NAME AND NUMBERS!
The US Constitution get's restored, and if you want to SPY you get a fucking warrant. Mano y Mano
The alternative is SLAVERY AND DEATH
prepare to be Japanized then.
I'm not sitting on the sidelines. I'm opposed to government invading my privacy, but I'm insisting we have rational discourse rather than "OMFG NSA SPYING LOL!!1"
I am asking for an interpretation of specific data on specific slides, leaked by Snowden, that demonstrate, unequivocally, the NSA are committing egregious acts. I can't find that evidence in those slides, and I don't think anyone can without making huge leaps of logic. Instead, what I keep reading are vague, hand-waving reactionary assumptions about spying and philosophical distractions about the limits of government powers.
The retroactive immunity for telecommunications companies is horrid. We should have a specific goal of trying to bring down that law. As we should for the USA PATRIOT Act. Both define policies and produce outcomes that definitively violate the Constitution. As for these leaked slides, all we've got is aimless uncertainty of what constitutes spying in a public space where nobody has a legitimate expectation of privacy. This doesn't lend to actions that produce results. Right now, people who are up in arms are only making motion and generating waste heat.
Under these conditions, people who are "engaged in a discussion about changing the law" will find a lot in common with the Occupy protesters--that they're a bunch of angry people who can't point out exactly what they're angry about, can't articulate any specific changes, and can't describe a meaningful outcome they can measure as improvement.
"just telling the truth"...
telling us operational details of classified programs we knew existed in 2006: http://yahoo.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-05-10-nsa_x.htm
just accept that what is happening does *not* fit your reductive narrative
doesn't mean that it's ok for the government to violate its own surveillance laws, and it doesn't mean that Snowden is evil...but it's harmfully wrong to take such a oversimplified view of what's happening
Glen Greenwald should have published this *anonymously*....it just doesn't fit...anyone who has worked in journalism knows this could have been leaked in a way that protects Snowden's privacy (Greenwald would have to risk some jail time though...), just look at Deep Throat and the Pentagon Papers leakers
there is definitely other criminal or illuminati types involved here and Snowden is a pawn who got taken advantage of by larger forces
Thank you Dave Raggett
Maybe after an 1 year there he be begging to do time back in the usa.
Those are two uniquely American rights that I as a Canadian certainly do not have.
Speech has exceptions here.. lots of them. We put people in jail for saying things - ugly things, but we still put them in jail.
It is also practically, or effectively, impossible to own a handgun and use it for it's intended purpose - defense of one's person - in Canada, and most of the world.
There's two, some some might argue, the most important two to keep. Without those you have no tools to fix the rest of the problem.
..don't panic
There is no constitution, but there IS the right in a large minority of countries in the world to have and maintain a firearm.
You are correct, however these laws have not been found unconstitutional. You may, if you wish, view it as being a Schrödinger's Cat law - neither constitutional or unconstitutional until such time as the Supreme Court rules. However, enforcement will carry on as if it is constitutional until such time as it is found otherwise.
By your logic, every law is unconstitutional until affirmed to be constitutional. Except that's not the way our government works -it's an opt-out system, not an opt-in one. It's worth noting that the representatives who actually get the classified briefings are not running to cancel these programs, and - unlike corporate regulations - there's no money changing hands between the NSA brass and congress. That doesn't absolve the NSA, of course, but it's not quite a damning.
I have no love for the NSAs methods, but having grown up within a half-hour drive of Ft. Meade, it was no secret what the NSA did. I figured it was actually probably a lot worse given the size of the data center they were building in Utah (and, who knows - it might be). They've been doing this for decades, it's just more efficient with digital records.
Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
Without clear evidence, we can't bring reason to bear on any problem. Without it, we act on gut instinct. When we do that we often replace one bad arrangement with an equally bad (or worse) arrangement. Imagine, for a moment, what it'd be like if all the excitable zealots clamoring to overthrow our government had their way? Do you think these people who aimlessly accuse our government of being too big, or taxing us too much command the same thoughtful, even-handed reasoning as the framers did over 200 years ago? Hardly. If they succeeded in "freeing us" we'd only be under a different yoke. We shouldn't follow their example by acting like knee-jerk reactionaries.
I see in PRISM slide six that the NSA identifies two companies--Google and Yahoo!--as "Providers". And then there are a collection of logos scattered across the top of the frame. What's the interpretation? What does "Providers" mean in this context? Does that mean they send data in bulk to the NSA? Does it mean the NSA queries those two search engines? The diagram seems to illustrate a bureaucratic workflow. Where does it indicate the NSA specifically mines data directly from these sources via non-public means? Is part of that bureaucratic process the invocation of the courts to compel the companies listed in the masthead to surrender information?
Do you see now how you can draw no straight-forward conclusions from that slide? And do you understand how all this excitement in absence of knowledge may generate misguided action?
Their dilemma is that if Snowden is just making it all up then he hasn't broken any US law and their attempts to extradite him are just harrassment (sic).
Or, perhaps, the US is going after Snowden because he broke the law in releasing classified documents.
Uh. I am one of those people. I believe that the only way to stop sliding down this slippery slope into tyrannical police state misery is to start forming a rebel army and maybe in 50 years or so start a second civil war. This time the slaves that we want to free are ourselves. I'd settle for say Wyoming and Montana and maybe Alaska seceding from the union and resetting the timer back to 1776 and resetting the version number of The Freedom Experiment to 2.0. It would be nice if we could get Oregon or Washington State so that the new country within a country would not be landlocked.
That's scary. You're the type of person who roams around with weapons, seeking to replace the old lot and ultimately wind up being more of the same. Study the political affairs in certain northern African countries to get an idea where you're headed. And here's a helpful hint: the American revolutionaries didn't want to be revolutionaries. They wanted freedom without violence. If you're pedaling violence in hopes it'll lead you to freedom I'm afraid you'll be disappointed. I'm also afraid that, if you succeed, you'll find life's a lot more difficult than you expected without the social, economic, and political advances of the last 200 years. You'll also find that the world has changed a lot since the Constitution was ratified, and I hope you'll enlighten yourself with much evidence that suggests the Framers never intended for us to live with the law exactly as it was written in 1787.
Actually I'm now convinced that your protest is not genuine. I suspect you of being either a shill or otherwise having an agenda. Those slides are so obvious. They are not in the least bit ambiguous. Either you believe them or you don't, but their meaning is quite clear.
Notice how you didn't even attempt to legitimately answer a single question I made about the slide? You just launched into an ad hominem attack, and willfully assumed the slides say what you want them to say. If Edward Snowden had leaked General Alexander's mother's recipe for chocolate chip cookies, you'd be convinced it was a government conspiracy to spy on you. Sorry, bub, but you're not that special to warrant much interest (even with your rebel yell). And neither am I. I'm no shill and I have no agenda. I'm just an ordinary guy (who writes software for a living, trying to start a business) who prefers using evidence-based reasoning to guide his actions.
Getting an asylum is not the same thing as immigrating. The asylum by it's nature is a temporary status - until the situation that forced you to seek the asylum has changed (i.e. you were fleeing the war and the war is over). However, if you determine, and are able to convince the authorities, that the situation is still bad or got worse (i.e. the bad guys won the war and will kill you the moment you come back) you may ask for a residency in the country that gave you asylum. In most civilized countries, and in most cases it's just a formality. From there on, you might ask for a citizenship.
Putin could decide he'd like to see Snowden's buddies release his failsafe leaks. All he'd have to do is make it look like the CIA offed him, his buds then release all their secret info. And Putin can pretend he had nothing to do with it...
The entire cold war was a lie, and the UNITED STATES were the bad guy the whole time.
YES the entire cold war was a psy-op - Russia and the USA were actually allies the whole time.
Yes the Russians are more "American" than the current incarnation of "America" - and are throwing in our faces what kings and queens we've indeed become.
LOL: They got freedom now and we got B. O..
Absolutely disgusting. Hope he rots and eventually pickles himself in vodka like the MI5 spies. Traitor, thief, and felon will have blood on his hands when the enemy makes use of his disclosures. Never mind the gigabytes of secrets he has given to the Russians and Chinese to sell to Hezbollah and the Iranians.
so which is it?
he can't be a 'hero' either...by your logic at best he's a sad sucker for the military/industrial complex
see, no matter how you slice it Snowden bungled this whole thing and you can't switch your argument mid-stream b/c I made a valid point about the NSA programs info released in 2006
however, Snowden still released **operational** details and that **is** a crime!
in 2006, the existence of the program and the type of data they collected was announced
Snowden released powerpoint slides about its usage including its name, processes and procedures, where it is located, what staff use it, and opertational details of actual use cases
That's different
it's the same as the US knowing that the military is hunting terrorists with drones vs leaking a copy of a dossier on a specific mission that says what time the strike will happen...broad strokes vs operational details
same...yes we knew the **existence** of the NSA programs in 2006 but not **operational details** and that matters...one is open info the other is secret
so you have to conclude his plan to 'leak' the documents was, at minimum, a pointless risk of his entire future for little to no **actual** gain
and as far as starting a 'national conversation'...Snowden could have done all kinds of things that would start a 'national conversation' without breaking the law
No way around it...Snowden bungled this
Thank you Dave Raggett
He's misunderstood the complexity of US government and instead seen it as a simplified movie dictatorship and then mentioned the far side of crazy as shown by some early web weirdness of a guy that thought many very powerful figures in the world have been replaced by lizards. That web page with images of the Queen of England and many others modified to look like lizards is probably still out there somewhere.
Anna Chapman's place.