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Fearful of Reader Reaction, Facebook Delays Video Ads

AlistairCharlton writes "Facebook is continuing with plans to launch news feed video adverts, but has faced setbacks with CEO Mark Zuckerberg twice delaying the project amid fears of tainting the user experience. Reports claim Facebook will soon add 15-second video adverts to users' news feeds in a bid to lure big spenders away from traditional television ads and onto the social network." For some reason, video ads bother me little on sites like YouTube (where the content is visual, sound isn't a big surprise, and the ads are usually quickly interruptable), but otherwise they make me cringe and wish for a nuclear-enabled ad blocker.

120 comments

  1. who reads videos? by Moblaster · · Score: 1

    Except for strange coded messages from our Facebook overlords?

  2. I'm going to do it by i+kan+reed · · Score: 3, Informative

    I'm going to be the someone smugly pointing out that they don't use Facebook. But seriously, I can't imagine the payoff of using the site is worth the thousands things they do to track you.

    1. Re:I'm going to do it by intermodal · · Score: 2

      Wait till you find out how much every other site you're on tracks you, probably forwarding their information to Google and/or Facebook, and possibly Amazon.

      The only way to win is not to play the game.

      --
      In SOVIET RUSSIA... erm...NSA AMERICA, the Internet logs onto YOU!
    2. Re:I'm going to do it by i+kan+reed · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Also, this would be a good thread to point out that Dice seems to be intentionally collecting user statistics with the latest poll rather than using it as a basis for discussion.

    3. Re:I'm going to do it by i+kan+reed · · Score: 2

      Well, I blocked slashdot's load of google analytics, which tells me they don't bother to track me themselves(unless it's a false flag). So... it's not that bad.

    4. Re:I'm going to do it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You forgot the NSA in your list. Unless you mean that the NSA are notified by proxy

    5. Re:I'm going to do it by intermodal · · Score: 1

      I thought it was generally accepted that if anyone you haven't met face to face has your data, the NSA has it as well.

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      In SOVIET RUSSIA... erm...NSA AMERICA, the Internet logs onto YOU!
    6. Re:I'm going to do it by intermodal · · Score: 1

      I've blocked that as well, but who's to say what Dice does and does not do with our traffic data?

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      In SOVIET RUSSIA... erm...NSA AMERICA, the Internet logs onto YOU!
    7. Re:I'm going to do it by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      yet you comment on slashdot and still get tracked.
      the biggest worth would be selling it to nsa anyways.

      but seriously, abp blocks facebooks ads and youtube ads just fine? and slashdots ads as well.

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      world was created 5 seconds before this post as it is.
    8. Re:I'm going to do it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm going to be the someone smugly pointing out that they don't use Facebook. But seriously, I can't imagine the payoff of using the site is worth the thousands things they do to track you.

      I'll be the someone smugly pointing out that Facebook isn't doing anything special, and that keeping in touch with a widely spread family is a lot more of a payoff than being able to earn Karma on Slashdot.

    9. Re:I'm going to do it by fustakrakich · · Score: 2

      If you are alive, then, like it or not, you are in the game. There is only one exit.

      --
      “He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
    10. Re:I'm going to do it by intermodal · · Score: 1

      Your statement is correct.

      How about a nice game of chess?

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      In SOVIET RUSSIA... erm...NSA AMERICA, the Internet logs onto YOU!
    11. Re:I'm going to do it by Wookact · · Score: 1

      ...that keeping in touch with a widely spread family is a lot more of a payoff than being able to earn Karma on Slashdot.

      You have not met my family.

    12. Re:I'm going to do it by shadowrat · · Score: 1

      I use facebook. the payoff is it keeps me in touch with a bunch of friends and family of various technical backgrounds. I guess everyone needs to weigh the cost/benefit ratio there. Currently, for me, it's fine. "Features" like these video ads could make me reevaluate that ratio and find facebook unsuitable in the future.

    13. Re:I'm going to do it by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      No need to. We're already pawns.

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      We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
    14. Re:I'm going to do it by steelfood · · Score: 1

      Skew it with noise.

      --
      "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be."
    15. Re:I'm going to do it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Slashdot still knows that you requested that data and they can pass that information on from their server just as well as you can pass it on from your browser. Blocking tracking at the browser is like securing your door with tape. It only keeps out people who aren't very determined to get in.

    16. Re:I'm going to do it by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Only if you put stuff worth tracking on those other sites. If people are staying away from Facebook then chances are they are not interested in repeating the naive mannerisms of the average Facebook user. Ie, Google+ has no idea where I am really; maybe it can check the IP address and figure out that I'm at my desk, I have turned off every single "automatically upload your photos" option and other stupid cloud stuff, I don't post constantly about what I'm doing, and even when posting to friends I do not provide details that would be embarrassing if the general public could read it. Google analytics are blocked by defaults (and screw all you who are going to whine that I'm killing the new ad-based economy by doing this).

    17. Re:I'm going to do it by intermodal · · Score: 1

      You might think that, but then you read an article like Google Pressure Cookers and Backpacks: Get a Visit From the Feds. That logic falls apart pretty quick at that point.

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      In SOVIET RUSSIA... erm...NSA AMERICA, the Internet logs onto YOU!
    18. Re:I'm going to do it by i+kan+reed · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but if they were to lazy to implement their own solution in the first place, why would they?

    19. Re:I'm going to do it by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      That's why I play checkers...

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      “He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
    20. Re:I'm going to do it by Jadecristal · · Score: 1

      I feel that it goes back to the saying regarding you being the product, if you're not paying.

      People don't want to pay, apparently, or just plain don't mind being the product. I don't get that.

      The only social site I've found (just recently) where I don't feel like the product would be app.net - sure, not many people might use it yet, but there's potential. They're working with the github model where there IS a free tier, it's just not as nice as a paid tier - and if you really USE the service, you'll probably want to pay the pittance it costs. Like github, use it for free if you want.

      As for giving it a shameless plug, sign up using my referral link and we both get more space to store things: http://join.app.net/from/vswpqtxlqq

  3. Wait a minute, there are ads on the internet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Adblockers are your friend. Nothing gets blocked faster than autoplay video ads.

    1. Re:Wait a minute, there are ads on the internet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Adblockers are your friend. Nothing gets blocked faster than autoplay video ads.

      No, they are not.
      Script blockers are your friend. If you want to replicate the function of ad blockers, just download their blacklist and add it to your firewall, hosts file, and/or blackhole it on your router.

    2. Re:Wait a minute, there are ads on the internet? by Phusion · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I'm sure we'll all be blocking this shit out once it is deployed. Unfortunately, without a jailbroken or otherwise modified phone/tablet, you wont be able to block them when on a mobile device. Hopefully this will start the ball rolling on a mass exodus to some other network.

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      640k ought to be enough for anyone.
    3. Re:Wait a minute, there are ads on the internet? by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Which is why I don't do any of that sort of stuff on a phone. My phone is for phone calls and occasionally checking mail.

    4. Re:Wait a minute, there are ads on the internet? by Vegemeister · · Score: 1

      Adblock Plus works just fine in Firefox mobile.

    5. Re:Wait a minute, there are ads on the internet? by readingaccount · · Score: 1

      Firefox mobile has too many odd rendering bugs that I just don't see in other browsers like Dolphin or Chrome. It's great to see Adblock Plus works on a mobile (presumably without rooting), but to get system-wide blocking of ads that permeates to apps as well as other browsers, you need to root your phone/tablet which is outside the skillset for most people unfortunately.

  4. The horrorshow by invid · · Score: 4, Funny

    Pity your poor, humble narrator, my brothers. What a horrorshow I am now forced to viddy with my glassies!

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    The Moore-Murphy Law: The number of things that will go wrong will double every 2 years.
    1. Re:The horrorshow by harvestsun · · Score: 0

      Although I appreciate the reference, "horrorshow" should be used as an adjective/adverb, not a noun.
      And yes, I am being a grammar Nazi over a grammar that does not exist.

    2. Re:The horrorshow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and it means "good," from the Russian "khorosho"

    3. Re:The horrorshow by invid · · Score: 1

      You are absolutely correct. It has been a number of years since I've read the book or seen the movie. I officially facepalm.

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      The Moore-Murphy Law: The number of things that will go wrong will double every 2 years.
    4. Re:The horrorshow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...and just to add a little more, it should be 'glazzies', not 'glassies'. If you govoreet NadSat gloopywise, you come off a zammechat shoot.

    5. Re:The horrorshow by invid · · Score: 1

      I should know better than to try to write this stuff from memory on /. Compiles are too fast these days to look stuff up!

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      The Moore-Murphy Law: The number of things that will go wrong will double every 2 years.
    6. Re:The horrorshow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And the /horosho/ borrowing was a positive adjective. Unless he didn't like driving fast cars, which seems unlikely.

    7. Re:The horrorshow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *golf clap*

  5. Haha, what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...CEO Mark Zuckerberg twice delaying the project amid fears of tainting the user experience.

    Too late for that, Zucky. Waaaaaay too late. If it weren't for extensions like F.B. Purity, my wall would be nothing but you fuckers peddling likes to shit my friends like and 'suggesting' friends for me. It's so far out of hand already, it's bananas! God damn I can't wait for Facebook to be dethroned.

    1. Re:Haha, what? by HaZardman27 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I can't wait for Facebook to be dethroned

      Then take the first step and start using something else.

      --
      Apparently wizard is not a legitimate career path, so I chose programmer instead.
    2. Re:Haha, what? by jcrb · · Score: 2

      To further show what a terrible idea pushing videos ads is, I had not bothered to get F.B. Purity until now, but just the thought of having vid ads with sound pushed at me was enough to make me go and get everything blocked.

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      -jon
  6. If it's free, YOU are the product by RogueWarrior65 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    FB doesn't make a dime off of people posting what they had for breakfast. They make money off of ads.
    For my own part, it's allowed me to stay in touch with people from the various chapters of my life. That's what it is to most people. But that doesn't make FB any money.
    FB's iOS app is pretty much useless because of the intrusive ads. They usually fill up the entire screen and I believe some of the postings from my friends are not being displayed in favor of ads in the same way that the postings from friends you rarely interact with aren't displayed in favor of the ones you interact with daily.
    FB must know that more intrusive ads will piss people off. But they still need to make money. Rock? Meet hard place.

    1. Re:If it's free, YOU are the product by csumpi · · Score: 1

      They make money off of ads.

      ...and from selling your information to other companies, governments, or whoever pays money for it.

    2. Re:If it's free, YOU are the product by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes they do. They datamine your posts and collect demographic information on your personal habits and behaviors. Now they, and ever food seller and targeted ad provide know what you eat for breakfast. They know you had a poptart? Expect to see targeted banner aids and mailers advertising toaster strudel.

      Part of that demographic collection includes tracking your history and associates. There is a fair bet that the people you communicate with will influence your behavior. Expect to hear them talking about toaster strudel.

  7. "fears of tainting the user experience" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Pushing unwanted content at users only has one result.

  8. People will fucking hate those ads by redmid17 · · Score: 1

    Zuckerberg isn't a fucking idiot

    1. Re:People will fucking hate those ads by pauljlucas · · Score: 2

      Zuckerberg isn't a fucking idiot

      Then why is there even such a project (that he's delayed twice) to begin with?

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      If you reply, do so only to what I explicitly wrote. If I didn't write it, don't assume or infer it.
    2. Re:People will fucking hate those ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I beg to differ. Have you seen the Facebook phone? It actually made the Kin look successful.

    3. Re:People will fucking hate those ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      MY favorite quote from the /. article. "amid fears of tainting the user experience". AKA -- USER BLACK LASH..

      2nd quote "lure big spenders away from traditional television ads and onto the social network" equals, driving users away, leaving the idiots in advertisement pissing in the wind.

      I change the channel when ads come on, and wait to switch it back, I block internet ads not only because they are annoying, there is just to many, and they use Java or are animated, making them even worse. You want good ads, keep it simple and to the point, maybe, just maybe I will not be annoyed and will watch them, however it isn't going to motivate me to buy some product I do not need, and i fact I will not buy it because the ads are completely fuckin stupid.

    4. Re:People will fucking hate those ads by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Zuckerberg isn't a fucking idiot

      Ah, but he's a not-fucking-idiot with a brood of hungry shareholders (more than a few still deep in the hole from the IPO) to appease. Many a destructive action has appeared proximately logical under those conditions...

    5. Re:People will fucking hate those ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From the 2012 Shareholder Report:

      How We Create Value for Marketers
      We focus on providing value for all kinds of marketers, including brand marketers, direct marketers, small
      and medium-sized businesses, and developers by offering a unique combination of reach, relevance, social
      context, and engagement:

      * Reach. With over one billion MAUs, Facebook offers marketers the ability to reach a vast consumer
      audience.

      * Relevance. Marketers can target users on Facebook based on demographic factors such as age,
      location, gender, education, work history, and specific interests that users have chosen to share with us
      on Facebook. In addition, marketers may choose to match their own data or third-party data with ours,
      so they can find their customers – or those who look like them – directly on Facebook. We believe that
      users have a better experience when ads are effectively tailored and, therefore, more relevant to them.

      * Social Context. We believe that the recommendations of friends have a powerful influence on
      consumer interest and purchase decisions. We offer marketers the ability to include “social context”
      with their marketing messages. Social context is information that highlights a friend’s connections with
      a particular brand or business.

      * Engagement. We believe that the shift to a more social web creates new opportunities for businesses to
      engage with interested customers. Many of our ad products offer new and innovative ways for our
      marketers to interact with our users, such as ads that encourage comments, include polls, invite people
      to an event or help users discover and install mobile applications.

      Any brand or business can have a presence on Facebook by creating a Facebook Page. Through Pages,
      we give brands the opportunity to form direct and ongoing relationships with their existing and
      prospective customers, with the potential to turn them into valuable advocates. When a Facebook user
      “Likes” a Page, the Page owner has the opportunity to publish stories to the person’s News Feed on an
      ongoing basis. We believe that this ongoing connection provides businesses with a significant
      advantage as compared to advertising on traditional websites. In addition, businesses can use Pages to
      drive awareness, traffic to their e-commerce websites or physical stores, sales, and ultimately customer
      loyalty. We do not charge businesses for their Pages, nor do we charge for the resulting organic
      distribution of their content. However, Page owners can use Facebook ads to reach a larger audience or
      utilize our Promoted Posts feature, which enables businesses to pay a fixed fee to boost the distribution
      of posts that they care about to people who have “Liked” the Page, to gain more prominent distribution.
      Facebook offers products and tools that enable marketers to leverage our unique combination of reach,
      relevance, social context, and engagement.

      * Facebook Ads. Our ads, including sponsored stories, offer businesses the opportunity to direct a user to
      specific content, a destination web page or a Facebook Page if the user clicks on the ad. Our ads
      provide our users with a consistent ad experience and enable marketers to deploy and adjust campaigns
      rapidly.

      Currently, ads can appear in multiple locations including in the right-hand side of most page types on
      personal computers, and in the News Feed on personal computers and mobile devices. Ads with social
      context allow marketers to highlight the interactions of a user’s friends with a brand or product, such as
      Liking or Commenting on the marketer’s Facebook Page. Ads with social context respect users’
      privacy settings and may be shown only to the people users have already shared their activity with on
      Facebook.

      * Facebook Ad System. When marketers create an ad campaign on Facebook, they specify the types of
      users they want to reac

    6. Re:People will fucking hate those ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      maybe, just maybe I will not be annoyed and will watch them, however it isn't going to motivate me to buy some product I do not need, and i fact I will not buy it because the ads are completely fuckin stupid.

      The point of most advertising is to get you to buy their version of a product you do need (or want) over a competitors. They do this by ensuring that when you go looking for the product you remember their brand name.

      Annoying advetizments are by and large more effective at getting people to remember the name, and so when they see a name they recognize on the shelf amid names they don't recognize they buy the one with the annoying ads because they aren't thinking about the ads just "which one of these seemingly identical things should I buy? Oh that one sounds familiar I'll get it."

    7. Re:People will fucking hate those ads by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      He said he ain't an idiot, not that he ain't greedy.

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    8. Re:People will fucking hate those ads by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Are you sure? Evidence seems to disagree with you.

  9. Re:Meanwhile, at WalMart by Chrisq · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Fearful of customer reaction, WalMart has delayed their new 'mandatory anal probe at the door' policy..."

    Shucks ... there goes my career change plans

  10. Facebook afraid of its users? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Best joke I've heard all week. There's probably a technical hold-up. Nothing has prevented Facebook from doing anything before, except maybe the SEC.

  11. What people feel about the ads is not relevant by The+MAZZTer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As long as they keep using Facebook it doesn't matter how much they hate the ads or how loudly they complain.

    1. Re:What people feel about the ads is not relevant by crashcy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I disagree. The more intrusive your advertising is, the more people are likely to search for solutions. This pushes more and more of your users to adopt script and ad blockers (really, abp is so simple to install and use I'm amazed anyone doesn't at least use it). I read a study recently, unfortunately I don't have the source, that suggested 10% of internet users are now running ad blockers. Facebook has to try to estimate how many more people will start blocking all ads, and if the lost value of an increased portion of their users not seeing any ads at all is more or less than the increased revenue from inflicting more intrusive ads on those remaining unblocked.

    2. Re:What people feel about the ads is not relevant by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      As long as they keep using Facebook it doesn't matter how much they hate the ads or how loudly they complain.

      Well, it's a balance. The purpose of ads is to leverage the user base. If obnoxious ads cause the user base to shrink, at some point it becomes a wash, and shortly after that, a net loss.

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      Oliver's law of assumed responsibility: If you're seen fixing it, you will be blamed for breaking it.
    3. Re:What people feel about the ads is not relevant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't use ABP because I don't mind seeing certain ads. We all get a lot of useful free content on the web, and many sites rely on advertising.

      But I DO hate video ads, and being tracked constantly. So I always have DNTMe installed, and if video ads become predominant, I'll probably install ABP.

      Advertising people: stick with unintrusive, relevant ads, and people will be less likely to turn them off. Stop tracking us like mad and blasting shit in our faces.

  12. Video Ads SUCK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The first time I see a Facebook video ad is the last time I use Facebook.

    1. Re:Video Ads SUCK by Cordus+Mortain · · Score: 2

      Which is why I use Adblock Plus and Flashbock. There are ads on Facebook?

    2. Re:Video Ads SUCK by Bigbutt · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately I do see the ads. On my tablet mostly and occasionally on my phone. I'll have to delete the apps and only use my desktop (which has FB Purity, Adblocker, and Noscript).

      [John]

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      Shit better not happen!
  13. Re: Meanwhile, at WalMart by dgatwood · · Score: 4, Funny

    TSA employee?

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  14. ...will never work. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    FB is about scrolling through short messages, not about pausing and watching stupid-moron videoclip of zero interesting content.

    1. Re:...will never work. by barakn · · Score: 1

      Clearly you do not have the same FB friends as me.

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  15. Facebook is already using video ads. by JestersGrind · · Score: 1

    Facebook is already using video ads in certain instances. I know, in some Facebook games, you can watch a video ad to receive extra lives or such. The obvious difference is that there is a trade. The user is receiving something in exchange for, at least, letting the video play. Doesn't stop them for switching tabs until the ad is over.

    1. Re:Facebook is already using video ads. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's not Facebook. That's the app owner.

  16. ISP Cap by AnalogDiehard · · Score: 5, Insightful

    My ISP has a cap on download. Video ads eat up bandwidth and nudges my usage towards that monthly cap. The day that FB launches video ads, I will no longer patronize FB because it is costing ME $$$, not to mention intruding my limited personal time on the internet.

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    1. Re:ISP Cap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It sounds like you probably aren't in the USA. (I'm not aware of any USA companies with downstream caps - I could be wrong.)
      If you aren't in the USA, why in the world are you still using facebook post-Snowden? In fact, even if you are in the USA, why are you still using facebook?

    2. Re:ISP Cap by perryizgr8 · · Score: 1

      seriously? people still have caps on their home broadband? i can understand usage limits on wireless data but this is just too sad.

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      Wealth is the gift that keeps on giving.
    3. Re:ISP Cap by rnturn · · Score: 2

      I don't have a cap imposed by my ISP. Well, at least not based on the measured amount of data my household downloads. It's a law of physics limit imposed by the phone company's hardware and aided by the laws that allow them to lock out other internet providers from their faster lines. As a result, there's only so much time I'll allow for a web page to load before I'm off to another web site. (Make me watch some lame video before taking me to the main content and I'm outta here.) The current crop of ads that pollute my "news" feed are annoying enough. (Dammit! There were already ads on the right-hand side of the stinking page. I guess they figured out that people were training themselves to ignore that real estate. I know I do.) Video ads on my news feed will be the last straw and will almost certainly likely result in me making one last post: the new URL where my FB friends can find any further postings by me.

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    4. Re:ISP Cap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's not much of an excuse. I'm still trying to figure out my password for my /. account. I no longer have ownership of the email I registered with like 10 years ago. Saying something like "can't be bothered to register an account" on a site that you frequent is like a slap to the face to cowboy neal and the community.

    5. Re:ISP Cap by Tridus · · Score: 2

      I'm assuming you've never been to Canada. It's entirely normal.

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      -- "So they told me that using the download page to download something was not something they anticipated." - Bill Gates
    6. Re:ISP Cap by perryizgr8 · · Score: 1

      no, i've never been outside my country (india) and i was assuming you guys out there would have better broadband than we do :/

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      Wealth is the gift that keeps on giving.
    7. Re:ISP Cap by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      It sounds like you probably aren't in the USA. (I'm not aware of any USA companies with downstream caps - I could be wrong.)

      there are several million Americans who have only satellite Internet access.

      --
      My God, it's Full of Source!
      OUTSIDE_IP=$(dig +short my.ip @outsideip.net)
    8. Re:ISP Cap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How is it a "slap in the face"? I, as a member of the community, don't care what his name is, I only care what he has to say. Logged in, but checking "Post Anonymously" because apparently you think that's some kind of insult. Means nothing to me.

    9. Re:ISP Cap by rullywowr · · Score: 1

      The first step in schizophrenia is admitting you have a problem. Why are you talking to yourself, AC?

    10. Re:ISP Cap by sjames · · Score: 1

      Probably someone somewhere does, but the U.S. isn't where I would look for that.

  17. My prediction by korbulon · · Score: 5, Interesting

    (leaving aside the fact that nobody really cares)

    FB is resorting to increasingly intrusive strategies to maintain ad-revenue and that great MBAmerican idea that companies must continue to grow or face heat death ("too infinity and beyond!"), and at some point it will start to drive away users, at which point it will be too late to stop the bleeding no matter what they try, and soon after all that will be left is a handful of grandmothers who didn't get the memo and aimless hordes of rabid beliebers, because that's who FB is really designed for.

    OK, maybe I should rename the subject to "My hope"

    1. Re:My prediction by Deflagro · · Score: 1

      I'm in business and never understood that either. Perpetual increase can only lead to bad things. Either you become a monopoly and eliminate competition (not legal) or you miss your numbers and tumble into obscurity and death.
      What's so bad about raking in a stable profit of 10 billion a year? Do that consistently and it sounds like you are super successful. To wall street it sounds like you are dying and all investors need to bail. Crazy.

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      Der Tod ist der einzige Weg hier raus!
  18. Go right ahead by TheSkepticalOptimist · · Score: 2

    I look at Facebook twice a year, usually to turn off some annoying notification feature they recently added.

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    I haven't thought of anything clever to put here, but then again most of you haven't either.
  19. that's going to be corporate suicide by swschrad · · Score: 1

    get'Facedbook is already stomping the users (uh, the product) left and right, and the mass has been growling. forced video ads that burn up the mobile bandwidth will be the last straw, and get'Facedbook will go down hard if they put that crap into practice.

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    if this is supposed to be a new economy, how come they still want my old fashioned money?
  20. And Facebook turns into Myspace by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Remember those losers on myspace with the flash autoplay music?

    1. Re:And Facebook turns into Myspace by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      Remember those losers on myspace with the flash autoplay music?

      Dimly. I think that was the reason I stopped using it.

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      Oliver's law of assumed responsibility: If you're seen fixing it, you will be blamed for breaking it.
  21. Using facebook at all..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is a tainted experience in itself..

  22. One VidAd and I'm out by Sedennial · · Score: 1

    I grudgingly reactivated my FB account a few months ago to stay in touch with family, but the minute I see the first video ad I am actually deleting my account. I HATE those. If I land on a page with a video ad, I immediately close the tab and find my content elsewhere. The exception I make to this is youtube because I'm THERE for video content.

  23. Lure me to facebook with video ads? by kbdd · · Score: 1
    I fail to understand how video ads would lure me to facebook.

    Video ads have done a good job of luring me away from broadcast and cable television (except for premium, ad-free channels)

    I have flashblock installed on all my browsers and am very happy with it.

    What is the attraction of video ads for the user?

    1. Re:Lure me to facebook with video ads? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Erh... they can show their potential customers what they want to sell?

      Or are you talking about the value for the product? In that case, none. And that's exactly the reason that Zuckerberg is wary of implementing it, his products might run away.

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  24. Click to play by Tridus · · Score: 2

    Aren't videos already click to play in most browsers, in that you have to do something to make them start? How is this supposed to work?

    And if it does, how long before the browser makers respond by not allowing autoplay video?

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    1. Re:Click to play by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      FB will pay each browser to while-list it's videos. FB will become a trusted site just like the main addon sites, parent company sites, the most frequently used sites on the net, and a few others.

    2. Re:Click to play by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Get past my router if you can.

      Admittedly, it's easier if you don't mind blocking FB altogether...

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  25. announcement: I am not working by anyaristow · · Score: 3, Funny

    This will serve as an announcement for when my co-workers are screwing off on facebook rather than doing their work. Maybe if they can't read facebook all day they'll also not find a constant stream of shit to chat about.

    I like this video ad idea. Make it nice and loud, please. Full-screen and flashing.

    Awesome.

    1. Re:announcement: I am not working by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      If you're surfing the net without the sound turned off or headphones plugged in, you should turn in your slacker card.

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    2. Re:announcement: I am not working by Brucelet · · Score: 1

      Or else you'll end up turning in your company id badge

    3. Re:announcement: I am not working by anyaristow · · Score: 1

      They watch youtube videos while the boss isn't at his desk, which is often, so the sound is on. I didn't even know youtube had video ads.

      Anyway, I'm hoping the facebook ads are unexpected, full-screen and loud, so they'll be caught with the sound still on and be embarrassed to be on facebook all day.

      It'd be even better if they were adult enough to recognize that the company can not dedicate the entire room as an all-day nattering zone, but that's just crazy-talk.

    4. Re:announcement: I am not working by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And by reading/posting on slashdot all day at work youre different than your coworkers in what way?

    5. Re:announcement: I am not working by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      > They watch youtube videos while the boss isn't at his desk, which is often, so the sound is on.

      But again, headphones are cheap. Why take the risk of blaring non-work-related sound into the open air when you can enjoy the same experience without the risk?

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  26. um no by slashmydots · · Score: 1

    When have they ever given a flying fuck about their customers' opinions on any stupid new thing they do? They aren't launching it because the income projections from it aren't high enough.

  27. nope, sorry by roc97007 · · Score: 1

    Video ads (with sound) are the most annoying part of the internet experience, edging out popovers. If they go to that... well, there's always google+. Or email. Remember email? Actually talking to your friends in your own words?

    Alternately, is there a plugin that allows one to conveniently turn the browser's ability to play video on and off?

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  28. Facebook users whine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Users on facebook get upset, launch petitions, and complain loudly, but they don't actually leave.

    When I was a heavier facebook user, I did the same thing.

    Oh sure we'd make noise and stuff, even not sign in for a few hours, but we'd be back.

    Today I only go to facebook every few days to check in on friends who can't seem to use email.

    1. Re: Facebook users whine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I left. Point invalid.

  29. Are all web marketing executives lobotomized? by gestalt_n_pepper · · Score: 3, Insightful

    And does it happen before or after they're hired?

    Did it ever occur to any of these web advertising geniuses that we don't *all* have broadband all the time and that their cheery little video missives slow down the browser to the point where you turn it off?

    And if we do have broadband, but we're getting it through a hotspot where we're charged through the nose for going over 2 Gigabyes a month, that just maybe we're going to start avoiding these expensive leech ad pages like the plague?

    Seriously, if your advertising starts costing me money or time, you're shit out of luck. I not only won't buy from you, I'll never see your ad in the first place.

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    1. Re:Are all web marketing executives lobotomized? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The most annoying shit is ads period. Ads that say out of the way and don't move or launch annoying bull shit pops or animation are fine, not liked but understandable. It sucks having to install all the ad blocking extensions and other software to stop those fucken trackers, it's like having someone at work looking over my shoulder, however at work I could just say "get the fuck away from me". Face book ? It that social loser "I have no friends so I need to get friended" brain dead shit still used?

    2. Re:Are all web marketing executives lobotomized? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did it ever occur to any of these web advertising geniuses that we don't *all* have broadband all the time

      This may well not occur to them since they will be sitting in Silicon Valley, and probably take awesome network connections for granted.

    3. Re:Are all web marketing executives lobotomized? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You left out CPU temperature. I began to notice that my CPU was running hot, even when doing ordinary web surfing. I could feel the heat coming up through my laptop's keyboard. This caused me to go from primitive ad-blocking techniques to something more sophisticated (namely, NotScript). What I discovered was lots of mouse-pointer tracking bullshit on sites. I always wondered why the fan would start even when I wasn't doing anything on a site. Now I know. Also, my CPU runs a bit cooler.

    4. Re:Are all web marketing executives lobotomized? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you don't see the ad, then how do you know what not to buy?

    5. Re:Are all web marketing executives lobotomized? by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

      You'd be surprised how many "Social Networking Experts" (every publisher has them on staff these days) believes that the site to clone is The Huffington Post. They actually believe that the reason why people visit isn't because it's a mix of populist crap and left-of-center news, the latter of which is lacking in virtually every news source that is associated with the former, but because of all the features that mean that your machine slows to a crawl with fans on full blast every time you visit.

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  30. Re: Meanwhile, at WalMart by jittles · · Score: 1

    TSA employee?

    Yes, the Toilet Security Agency is always looking for people who are willing and able to probe peoples anal regions for fun

  31. Ad blockers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If they can stop ads on youtube, I'm sure facebook won't stand much a chance there either.

  32. Zuckerberg is rightfully wary by Opportunist · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Ads are always annoying to the person subjected to them. But there are varying degrees of annoying. A banner is annoying if it's drawing your attention by flashing, but you shrug it off. A popup is annoying and you have to close it. And various others require you to click somewhere to close them or get rid of them, but they're just annoying.

    It stops being annoying and it starts making people really angry if they have to sit and wait. And that's basically what you have to do when using video ads. You have to sit there and wait. Because if you COULD close it easily, it would fail to deliver its message. Think about it: Consider you only get to see 2-3 Seconds of a TV ad. Would you even know what product is being hawked?

    So to make video ads efficient, you not only have to annoy the person seeing it, you have to BORE him. And bored people generally start to think. No, don't come around with "but FB users are too dumb to think", people DO think when they're bored. They are working out a scheme to get rid of their boredom. If they have to click to close something, you're doing something and hence it's not as annoying as sitting there and just waiting.

    And every user can open a new window, open the search engine of his choice and enter "how the FUCK do I get rid of those damn ads on facebook".

    And from this moment on, he does not only block the video ads, he is blocking ALL ads, hence not only not increasing FBs ad revenue but actually DEcreasing it.

    And that's what Zuckerberg is afraid of.

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    1. Re:Zuckerberg is rightfully wary by ByteSlicer · · Score: 1

      A banner is annoying if it's drawing your attention by flashing, but you shrug it off.

      Nope. I have one simple rule: if it moves, kill it with fire.

  33. Even more annoying video ads by Animats · · Score: 2

    The next step will be video ads where

    • If the ad isn't the front window, the ad pauses and the site dims out, so you can't do anything else on the site until you've watched the ad.
    • If audio is muted, the ad pauses.
    • If the user's camera isn't enabled and isn't showing a human face with some slight movement, the ad pauses.

    Note that the new XBox is fully equipped to do that.

  34. Society as a teenager by asmkm22 · · Score: 1

    Facebook will go the way of Myspace, albeit much more slowly. Society, in general, is going through a faze much like teenagers used to go through with phones. You know, back in the day, when they'd basically spend hours on the phone talking with friends, annoying everyone else in the house. That novelty wore off eventually, and those same teenagers shifted to only using the phone when they needed to. That's what's happening with Facebook.

    I've noticed a marked downturn in usage among my friends in the last few years, with most rarely posting anything that's not actually important or interesting. It's a nice change from the days of Farmville spam and 20-questions posts. So on that front, I'm happy to see the changes made to Facebook, because I really do feel like it's a better site. Unfortunately for Facebook, since we're all using it less for daily habits and more for weekly photo uploads and status updates, they have to be making less money on us all.

    Even more interesting is that when I look at who's connected to Facebook, I see probably 80% of my friends are using it through their phones, and only "checking in" when they get a new message or something. So unless Facebook starts forcing mobile ads onto phones that don't even have the app running in the foreground, I can't imagine these video ads ever really making a difference.

  35. Make my day by Kazoo+the+Clown · · Score: 1

    Finally, a reason to jailbreak my iOS devices. Facebook integration my arse...

  36. Video Ads = death by scotts13 · · Score: 1

    I have never watched more than a few seconds of a video ad, just long enough to close the window. If I'm browsing news, and that news content is in the form of a video, I don't go there - because I assume it will have a 15-to-60 lead-in ad. The only possible result is to drive me away from your web page. Now in the case of Facebook, I have an account; but I only log in when they change their privacy options. So it really doesn't matter.

  37. This is why I stopped playing certain games by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    I really really really hate video ads.

    I despise them.

    And it's why FB is about to become a dodo - haven't even loaded it on my iPhone5.

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  38. And no advertisers of value (in money) were found by Slashdot+Humor · · Score: 1

    by Facebook.

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