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Camping Helps Set Circadian Clocks Straight

cold fjord writes "Counsel & Heal reports, 'Many people are stuck in the vicious cycle of late nights and late mornings. However, a new study reveals that a week of camping in the great outdoors may help people set their clocks straight. A new study, published in the journal Current Biology, reveals that if given a chance, our body's internal biological clocks will tightly synchronize to a natural, midsummer light-dark cycle. The study found that a week of exposure to true dawn and dusk with no artificial lights had a significant effect on people who might otherwise describe themselves as night owls. Researchers found that under those conditions, night owls quickly become early birds. "By increasing our exposure to sunlight and reducing our exposure to electrical lighting at night, we can turn our internal clock and sleep times back and likely make it easier to awaken and be alert in the morning," Kenneth Wright of the University of Colorado Boulder said in a news release.'"

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  1. Why fix what ain't broken by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You call naturally awakening early "straight", I call it pagan witchcraft. I'm fine with staying up late thanks.

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    1. Re:Why fix what ain't broken by Cryacin · · Score: 3, Funny

      So, become unemployed, miss mortgage payments and steal a tent. Sleeping issue solved!

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    2. Re:Why fix what ain't broken by gl4ss · · Score: 4, Insightful

      also.. try doing this in Finland. in the summer or in the winter. natural clock..

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    3. Re:Why fix what ain't broken by Samantha+Wright · · Score: 3, Informative

      Oh, but it is .

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    4. Re:Why fix what ain't broken by marcello_dl · · Score: 3, Funny

      Ok, cool, so camping helps circadian rhythms and the human health and all. What about teamkilling?

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    5. Re:Why fix what ain't broken by Yaotzin · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I usually hike through Swedish Lapland once a year in summer. Even though night is like 2-3 hours, it does feel like it's easier to rise earlier in the morning when I get back. Although it only lasts for like a week or maybe two.

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    6. Re:Why fix what ain't broken by RulerOf · · Score: 4, Funny

      Ok, cool, so camping helps circadian rhythms and the human health and all. What about teamkilling?

      Camping shifts the circadian-health median of the entire team toward an objectively "better" state. It can be said that camping raises the overall health and quality of life for everyone.

      Teamkilling on the other hand is a zero-sum game. The troll's erection grows proportionally to everyone else's level of discontent, with total hardness tipping the very edges of the Mohs scale when the voice chat explodes in rage.

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    7. Re:Why fix what ain't broken by Immerman · · Score: 3, Insightful

      So let go of the Puritan work ethic - just because you wake up early doesn't mean you have to go to work right away - I can't remember the last time I didn't spend an hour or three enjoying a leisurely morning or working on my own projects before going to work.

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  2. Try having a child by ControlFreal · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It does the same thing, for years on end, without having to take vacation days. The funny thing is that you do actually get used to it; I was a night owl, but not anymore. Now, if I do sleep in, I actually wake up with a headache.

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    1. Re:Try having a child by c · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Get several cats. Vocal ones, like Siamese, work best.

      Feed them once a day, in the morning.

      In about six months, you'll be getting up at 5am to feed them.

      Dogs can be effective as well, depending on the breed and age. A young lab or border collie is good. An older hound, not so much.

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    2. Re:Try having a child by zmooc · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Your sleep in headache may very well be related to mild dehydration. You'd probably do better if you drank a tad more before going to sleep.

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    3. Re:Try having a child by jaseuk · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Or caffeine withdrawal.

    4. Re:Try having a child by ebno-10db · · Score: 4, Funny

      Try having a child ... The funny thing is that you do actually get used to it; I was a night owl, but not anymore.

      I got used to it (and it amuses my old friends that I get up early) but I never really stopped being a night owl. Give me a chance, and I switch to my night owl schedule in a day.

      Being awake when the sun is out is unnatural. I understand that sunlight is necessary for green plants, but I'm not a green plant.

    5. Re:Try having a child by girlintraining · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It does the same thing, for years on end, without having to take vacation days. The funny thing is that you do actually get used to it; I was a night owl, but not anymore. Now, if I do sleep in, I actually wake up with a headache.

      Of course, this doesn't work for everyone. Like any definition of "normal" it fails to notice that variation in the population may be an evolutionary strategy with benefits to the whole, while perhaps sub-optimal for the individual. Or that there's simply not sufficient selection pressure for homogenization. Or even that certain 'mutations' confer an evolutionary advantage (though most result in death or disability, true enough!).

      In this case, having the occasional night owl might be useful to a tribe to keep watch for predators, who often hunt at night. Having them nodding off because they're not really night owls while everyone else sleeps wouldn't just affect the individual's reproductive success... but the entire tribe's.

      In other news, being a night owl is a bona fide medical condition with a genetic basis and high comorbidity with certain other disorders. And as we gain better understanding, we're finding a significant fraction of the population isn't just a "lifestyle change" away from a cure. The only reason it's classified as a disorder is because of society's narrow views on what is normal and useful; Not because it's unnatural or needs to be "fixed". For some things, it's society that needs to adapt, not the individual.

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    6. Re:Try having a child by plover · · Score: 3, Funny

      Here's what my dogs have to say about being on the wrong side of the door at breakfast-time: Bark-bark-bark-bark-bark-bark-bark-bark-bark bark-bark-bark-bark-bark-bark arf-bark, scritch-scratch, bark-bark-bark- ...

      Of course, that's pretty much the same thing they say when they're on the right side of the door, too. Can't blame them. It's breakfast time, after all.

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    7. Re:Try having a child by RulerOf · · Score: 3, Funny

      ...or drank a tad less.

      Woah, woah, slow down there. We don't want to be too hasty.

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    8. Re:Try having a child by voidptr · · Score: 4, Funny

      Talk about the cure being worse than the disease.

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  3. Surprise by buchner.johannes · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Anyone who has been camping should have experienced this. It's really nice to be in sync with the day again, makes one happy. With computers (blue lights destroys Melatonin and thus makes you less sleepy), days last longer and longer.

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    1. Re:Surprise by jones_supa · · Score: 5, Informative

      With computers (blue lights destroys Melatonin and thus makes you less sleepy), days last longer and longer.

      There's a neat program called f.lux which smoothly cranks down your display's color temperature when the night comes. I'm not sure if it makes any big difference in terms of melatonin production, but it can create a bit more relaxing atmosphere to the evenings. Suits also yellowish indoor lighting.

    2. Re:Surprise by xaxa · · Score: 5, Informative

      Debian/Ubuntu/etc users could easily install the 'redshift' package: http://jonls.dk/redshift/

      If it helps, my config file at ~/.config/redshift.conf is:

      ; Global settings
      [redshift]
      temp-day=6400
      temp-night=3900
      location-provider=manual

      ; The location provider and adjustment method settings
      ; are in their own sections.
      [manual]
      lat=51.5
      lon=-0.1

      (Also, I'm disappointed to see "f.lux is patent pending" at the bottom of their page.)

      On Android, I have added a "Night Mode" button. I think this is only possible with Cyanogenmod, and it's an on-off change, rather than the gradual change done with f.lux or redshift.

    3. Re:Surprise by CensorshipDonkey · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I want to second f.lux. This program is AWESOME. During the day it reduces eye strain from 6-8 hrs of monitor use by just softening the display, and at night I find it a lot easier to fall asleep after exposure to the warm tint and suppressed blues.

  4. Made the same experience by vikingpower · · Score: 3, Interesting

    When hiking through Europe ( I once walked from Amsterdam to Rome ), it was the same for me: as long as I slept outside, in a tent, I would wake up with sunrise and get sleepy shortly after sunset. As soon as I would begin sleeping in hotels, monasteries etc. etc., I would turn into a night-owl again...

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  5. Is camping necessary? by rolfwind · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why not just open the blinds before bedtime and turn off the lights progressively at night... or whatever the magic is... that does this?

    I assume most whacked out rythms are just either from work schedules or start from bad self-discipline keeping on watching TV or hanging on the computer way past tired. In the latter situation, with smartphones, that means not even most accessible camping is going to help.

  6. Re:Turn off the god damn sun so I can get some sle by hurwak-feg · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Call it bullshit, but even things that you consider innate should still be held to the standard of peer review publishing. Remember, it was once innate that the earth is flat. People studying "scratch, itch, or not blink" and not too long ago smoking figure out things about health effects of all sorts of things that are innately harmless because there is no immediate affect. Asbestos, lead, and smoking come to mind.

    Attacking science, no matter what popular opinion of it is, is dangerous. You didn't die of some terrible disease because scientists figured out vaccines. Engineers using what scientists figured out about electricity, magnetism, and mathematics built the computer you are using to read about this "bullshit". We already have enough anti-intellectualism in this world. There are morons in congress (and people who vote for them) that want to take a religious, "common sense", or tough guy approach to problems even in the face of overwhelming evidence.

    Considering sleep quality and quantity is vital to a persons mental and physical health, sleep research is important. There might be some people reading this that have never lived in a rural area and have never been camping that might just have sleep problems that could benefit from this.

  7. Normal sleep cycle???? by Jeepster77 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I worked 7am-3pm for 2 months, 3 years ago. Other than that, either 11pm-7am or 7pm-3am, or random hours on call, for the last 24 years. I get all messed up on vacation or out of work for some reason. Normal circadian rhythms do not exist in my world, since when I was working on call I lived a 20 hour day for most of the week... work 8, off 12, work 8 off 12. I'm still amazed that only a very few of my co-workers have died from falling asleep behind the wheel before, during, or after work. The days of working during the day and sleeping at night are long gone.

  8. In related news by korbulon · · Score: 4, Funny

    Studies show that me picking a fight with, oh, just about anyone, will get my clock cleaned, a hunderd percent guarantee.

    And who doesn't love a clean clock?

  9. Re:I wonder if this works in Northern Lattitudes by tverbeek · · Score: 3, Informative

    I don't know what you consider "northern", but the two times I've spent a week on Isle Royale (48N) in July, I switched pretty quickly and easily to sleeping on a natural day/night schedule.

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  10. Travel by jabberw0k · · Score: 3, Funny

    Visit Montreal or Toronto if you need to reset your Canadian rhythms. Vancouver, even.

  11. So what by rossdee · · Score: 3, Funny

    I work night shift You insensitive clods!

  12. Temp and sounds plays a role by shuz · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I find that even without light, sound and temp also helps regulate sleep. In the spring/summer/fall when nights are 50-68F (10-20c) I open windows at night. I find that both the coolness of the morning combined with birds chirping, and to a lesser extent people leaving for work constantly, help me to feel more alert when waking up regardless of when I went to sleep.

    That said with out any kind of alarm and in a controlled environment with zero stimuli, I'll sleep almost exactly 8 hours.

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  13. I do this to reset my kids "summer schedule" by Supp0rtLinux · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I've used 2-3 day backpacking trips to reset my clock for years. Typically, after moving for 10-15 miles in a day under the sun with 25-50lbs on my pack and then making camp, I'm ready for bed at sundown anyway. I actually have to force myself to stay up til 9 or 10pm. For the last few years, though, I've used this to reset my kids summer schedules. Typically by mid-August they're going to bed at 2-3am and getting up around 12-1pm each day. So the last week of summer for the last 3 years we've gone camping. Nothing special no grueling backpacking trips. Just camping at a campsite with tents and a fire and day hikes, etc. After a week of this they're on a sun-up to sun-down sleep schedule and ready for the new school year.

    1. Re:I do this to reset my kids "summer schedule" by PPH · · Score: 4, Funny

      Right. There's nothing better than throwing on a backpack and heading out into the woods to escape the pressure cooker of the office.

      Oh crap! Now I'm really screwed!

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