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Time Reporter "Can't Wait" To Justify Drone Strike On Julian Assange
First time accepted submitter Tuck News writes "A reporter for TIME Magazine sparked a Twitter war when he said that he 'can't wait to write a defense of the drone strike that takes out Julian Assange'. Michael Grunwald deleted his tweet after a follower argued that it would only encourage Assange supporters.Grunwald's employer distanced itself from the tweet, saying 'Michael Grunwald posted an offensive tweet from his personal Twitter account that is in no way representative of TIME's views.'"
Justifying a murder, or in this case glorifying murder by hoping to write a justification for it, must be hate speech.
Never heard of the guy before, doesn't sound as if he's published anything of value?
I hope Michael Grunwald gets to live a world someday where people cheer at firebombing people for non violent crimes they've not even been convicted of. I just hope I don't have to share it with him.
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It is the UK's responsibility to protect Foreign Embassy's and other diplomatic establishments that are located on UK soil.
The same goes for the US and foreign embassy's on US Soil.
This statement could clearly be viewed as 'insighting a case of terrorism'.
I wish the US would even consider extraditing a US Citizen on Terrorism Charges but they won't so it isn't even
worth trying.
Is anyone really surprised to see one kissing the drone emperors feet? When can a Nobel prize be revoked exactly?
and if you disagree with anything we reserve the right to shoot the F out of you
and this happened on the internets? Whats next? Pictures of scantly dressed women? We've got to do something soon!
I got a chuckle out of this. Enough said.
Is this the start of something more serious?
Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something.
Al Qaeda reporter "can't wait" to justify drone strike on Barack Obama.
(Although that would make more sense as the commander in chief is an actual participant in this "War").
International "Everybody is an asshole"-Day" anyone? Effing boot-licking ignorant fascist's of all creeds gather and rejoice!
And we can't wait to justify Time firing him. A man having no respect for human live is not appropriate to work as a reporter.
... always suck I suppose.
Anyway, if one is happy with bombing at will with no trial and anytime anywhere just wait until it happens in the other direction.
I know the US plan is to always beat everyone in any military arena but I wonder whatever you'll really have the man power and economy to do that in the future? Maybe if you start expanding more seriously.
US world pol^Wbullies.
Wait, what?
Snowden at least stands accused of treason. Assange faces rape-after-the-fact charges in one of the most misandrous countries on the planet. Where the fuck does a drone strike against the latter even become a topic open for discussion?
Make your case for Snowden, dude. I happen to consider him nothing short of a hero, but I can certainly appreciate the opposing POV. Assange ranks right up there with the Kardashians for his overall level of ego-vs-the-good-he-could-do.
Then again - Perhaps I have this backward. Yes, nuke Assange (and Rodman, and the Kardashians, etc) from orbit, so they stop trying to steal the spotlight from real discussions we need to have about security vs privacy vs basic human rights.
Wait, what?
Snowden at least stands accused of treason. Assange faces rape-after-the-fact charges in one of the most misandrous countries on the planet. Where the fuck does a drone strike against the latter even become a topic open for discussion?
Make your case for Snowden, dude. I happen to consider him nothing short of a hero, but I can certainly appreciate the opposing POV. Assange ranks right up there with the Kardashians for his overall level of ego-vs-the-good-he-could-do.
Then again - Perhaps I have this backward. Yes, nuke Assange (and Rodman, and the Kardashians, etc) from orbit, so they stop trying to steal the spotlight from real discussions we need to have about security vs privacy vs basic human rights.
Sir (I assume you're male, please forgive me if I guessed wrong), your last line appealed to me so much that I entirely forgot everything you said before it...I think it was the idea of nuking the Kardashians that made me blue screen with glee, especially in the hopes of bringing more real discourse to the public stage again.
For your security, this post has been encrypted with ROT-13, twice.
Or looking to make justifications for the execution of 3,000 decadent infidels in 11.9.
It's not so free, is it.
For every person you hate hard enough to wish a drone strike upon them...
Someone else in the world hates you just as much...
I can't wait for a drone strike on michael grunwald. That bastard is an anti american piece of shit.
As a former soldier, I find it ethically and morally reprehensible that Mr. Grunwald would advocate and look forward to someone's death. It's clear he has never taken a life, nor lived through the realities of conflict.
If anyone else were advocating the violent death of another, it would be a crime; perhaps it's time for some standards to be applied to all - right, left, far left (journalists). This behaviour is disgusting.
Realizing that someone had lied about using a condom is hardly a "rape-after-the-fact charge".
It was not merely offensive. It was incitement to murder.
By a journalist of an international publication.
On another journalist.
Who is being given asylum against prosecution.
Prosecution aimed at unraveling the sources to articles published by various newspapers and magazines.
Regardless of whatever stance or determination might be made about Assange, this is a descent into utter evil, when a so-called journalist incites people through a global medium to murder a whistleblower - basically the most courageous journalistic source on the face of the earth. Well, maybe we have a few of these people in existence now.
Incidentally, the Time readers poll in 2010 voted Assange the Time Person of the Year, though somehow (not enough guts on the editorial board, I guess?) that asshole Zuckerberg got the spot.
http://newsfeed.time.com/2010/12/13/julian-assange-readers-choice-for-times-person-of-the-year-2010/
Of course all of the above still is true even if you don't consider Assange a journalist. Even if you consider him an enemy combatant.
Journalists have lost all their backbone and principles but this takes it to a new ultra-low.
The other dumb bit is how Time said it was just an "offensive" tweet apparently.
If Time and other big media names want to survive in the networked media age, the only thing they have going for them is quality, journalistic integrity, and strong adherence to an ethically unassailable position of trust. Time and other major newspapers and news magazines should take a very strong stance against Grunwald.
I highly recommend a big lashing out at Time but all its competitors in the marketplace, who can have fun climbing all over themselves to be the first to tar and feather that ugly cretin.
You know, like Abu Quatada.
You know, the dude who you've had extradited for SAYING that this shit should happen.
Then again - Perhaps I have this backward. Yes, nuke Assange (and Rodman, and the Kardashians, etc) from orbit, so they stop trying to steal the spotlight from real discussions we need to have about security vs privacy vs basic human rights.
The bloody hell you're talking about? Assange was steering the discussion towards the illegal actions of the NSA, interview after interview after interview. I am not saying you've been not paying attention, I'm saying you've been sleeping under a 1000 ton granite rock.
http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey/
There it is. The classic, all time, full bore, scientifically confirmed explanation of what authoritarianism is.
Everyone has a little authoritarian in them, especially at the point of being "fed up" with others, where ever that is. Therefore, everyone needs to check themselves against it. True civil libertarians (non-Ron Paul types) excel us all in this capability and this makes them what they are.
Maybe there are very extreme circumstances in which some aspects of the civil society's foundations work against civil society. Lincoln thought he found some.
One thing we know, The doings of Julian Assange and Bradley Manning and Edward Snowden and Walter Binney and John Kiriakou and Walter Drake and all the rest of the people who acted in accordance with the values all Americans and the Founding Fathers were inculcated with do not represent those circumstances.
It's amazing to me how unsophisticated the response has been from the administration and by proxy the NSA itself. Presumably they have multiple, best-course-of-action for any eventuality all analyzed beforehand and mapped out. Is THIS response what they have on the books? IS this the best unlimited access to the nations best social and cultural thinkers can produce?
Maybe Assange acted with disregard to national security, he claims to have tried to vet the documents with the NSA and CIA and State Dept but they refused to engage him the way they would have WaPo or the Times. Who knows? Anyways, there's a lot conceptual space between THAT and being a drone worthy terrorist or a traitor. Ditto on down the line.
What's the lesson for us in this specific incident? For the sake of your career, don't drink and Twitter ? Read The Authoritarians at least once a year ? Perform a thorough, searching, honest and skeptical self examination of your values and actions at least as often as you get a haircut?
The bullshit questioning rubbish against Assange (no charge had been laid) is because he can't be handily moved into a US military prison without a few silly games being played due to the UK having a thing about the rule of law. It's a bit late to pretend that they are anything other than a pretext.
The depressing thing is these drone strikes are effectively the same thing as the car bomb in Washington DC that was used by the Chileans to kill off a political enemy some years back. That's what the US can turn into if it keeps going down this path. Don't get me wrong, it's a long path and the US has barely set foot on it while the Russians are happily running down it killing people with rare poisons as a calling card, but the path leads to the sort of horrors we associate with the worst bits of the third world.
What is wrong with America? Kill the messenger because nobody wants to face one (of too many) ugly truth about American "freedom?" What an insane place to live. Why not realize the power of truth and actively work to change whatever is wrong? Oops. Sorry. Too hard. Might require someone put down the video game controller and care about something more than just themselves... Character assassination. Yes. That's a far easier thing to implement in America. Real change will have to wait for future generations (like when people might actually wake up and realize that we're all in this together).
Like Baby Bush (aka: Commander Codpiece) said, "the Constitution is just a piece of paper."
...Then again - Perhaps I have this backward. Yes, nuke Assange (and Rodman, and the Kardashians, etc) from orbit, so they stop trying to steal the spotlight from real discussions we need to have about security vs privacy vs basic human rights.
He didn't lie about the condom: he SAID he wasn't wearing one.
SHE lied about one being deliberately ripped when it was shown not only not to contain any evidence of being worn by JA but also never to have been used before.
How do you have to take someone else's word about using a condom? It's pretty easy to verify yourself. Not mention it feels completely different for both the man and the woman.
"Let's see how the population reacts, if they just shrug to it, let's see how much else we can get away with. If it causes an outcry, we can always say it was the idea of a solitary lunatic"
It's not like it would be the first time...
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
I think it was the idea of nuking the Kardashians that made me blue screen with glee, especially in the hopes of bringing more real discourse to the public stage again.
Sounds like you have a Kickstarter project there, dude.
Personally I'd go for Justin Bieber. But only if no innocent, bystander monkeys are hurt in the process.
who really cares?
People in the US have said that 11/9 had justifications.
Others said it was justified.
The latter are in various jails.
So it seems that Time has gone to only hiring minimum wage reporters now, Did they pick this guy from a local restaurant that was their waiter?
Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
Maybe the hypothetical drone strike is suitable punishment for jumping bail in the UK?
"I do not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"
Assange faces rape-after-the-fact charges in one of the most misandrous countries on the planet. Where the fuck does a drone strike against the latter even become a topic open for discussion?
Wherever American conservatives gather in sufficient numbers.
Maybe he meant it in the way so that he'd get paid just to write "It can't be justified."
rewriting history since 2109
He must be a huge asshole. And a horrible human being. Why isn't he already working for Fox?
I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?
I see no issue wishing a drone strike against this traitor. Ass-ange thought it was his own justification for what he has done. In my opinion that makes him a traitor and should be either hung or shot by a firing squad then dumped in the ocean. This is what use to be done to traitors. Not some BS political trial, which is just wasting more money.
To translate Michael Grunwald, what he really meant was, "I for one welcome our new insect overlords!"
Don't get me wrong, it's a long path and the US has barely set foot on it (..)
"Barely set foot on it" ?!? The US government is murdering people without due process, trial or anything on a regular basis. Without a declaration of war involved. Violating other countries' sovereignty whenever it's convenient and/or 'doable'. Locking people up indefinitely without those prisoners having access to lawyers, a date for their trial, etc. Mass spying on their own citizens, in violation of its own constitution. Guys heading those 3-letter agencies lying about it to the public - but still stay in office. Silencing critics using a claim of "national security", together with gag orders issued by a secret court, or referring to a secret law.
Really, the only step missing is a dictator that rigs an election or sets aside democratic institions. Other than that, the US is a long way down the drain already.
SWAT team raids for petty offences
The police holding kids for ransom
I mean F it. Why don't we wear burkas and execute women drivers while we are at it. Shit.
Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, religion destroys spirituality
Somehow I'd doubt the US would commit an international incident to get one guy.
To my knowledge, the US doesn't have ad-hoc military access to Russian airspace. To say nothing of the loss of life for what would at that point be an extrajudicial killing (aka - murder).
When I read the tweet at first, I thought it could be interpreted as sarcasm. As in: "A drone strike is inevitable, and I'm going to have to be one of the guys who justifies it to the public. Great... I can't wait for that."
But then I read his reason for deleting the tweet (in agreement with tweeter rober1236Jua), and it seems more clear that Michael Grunwald really is looking forward to the murder of Assange because he obviously has a problem with him and his supporters:
Fair point. I'll delete. @rober1236Jua my main problem with this is it gives Assange supporters a nice safe persecution complex to hide in
How can you call for someone's murder and simultaneously accuse them of having a persecution complex? It's akin to Orwellian doublethink.
Grunwald and rober1236Jua are both sickening.
Snowden at least stands accused of treason.
Nope. He stands accused of espionage, but that's bullshit, too. Treason has a very specific definition in US law, and whistleblowing isn't making war on the United States.
-jcr
The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
The most "misandrous" country? That's a "victim" word if I've ever seen one - right up there with misogynist.
Reference for your view? ... Man haters ... All 0.4% of them...
Note: Swedish man tax was overthrown in 2004. Over the last 8 years in Sweden, the feminist political group got between 0.4% and 2% of the votes
So unless you've got some real evidence, STFU... And I'd say the same to a feminist ... Most feminists (particularly those that use the victim card) need to be told to STFU too.
Next thing you know, he will volunteer as a human bomb to punish Assange, I bet.
Wow, very good, it really lifts your post!
Any suggestions how we should refer to Obama?
Do other countries get to drone strike random people in the US now that we're doing it to other countries? 'can't wait to write a defense of the drone strike that takes out Obama'.
People write stupid things like this on the internet all the time. The only difference is that the latest big message board sites use people's actual names. I dumped facebook after trying it out for a little bit, and never bothered with twitter. I prefer to anonymously post my drivel on a quality board like this. If you have never posted something dumb, good for you. Still, there is no real need to get excited and upset over the opinions of a fool. As far as I can tell there are about 7 billion of them wandering about the planet.
I say this reporter has a dinky weiner and he smells bad.
Had this been an offensive tweet from the Conservative position, he would have been fired immediately, even though he did it from his personal Twitter account.
But, because it's an ultra-Leftist tweet, he gets to keep his job and Time conveniently distances itself, noting he did it from his personal Twitter account.
Nobody in the media will ever lose their jobs for defending Obama's love for murdering people with drones.
I stopped taking Time magazine seriously when they had Ben Bernanke as Person of the Year.
> Assange faces rape-after-the-fact charges in one of the most misandrous countries on the planet. Where the fuck does a drone strike against the latter even become a topic open for discussion?
'Murrca, Fuck Yeah!!
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I think of this when I consider the whole concept of drones as used to murder inconvenient individuals.
Some day, someone else who does not see you as fully human will have control over the box.
If your children ever found out how lame you are, they'd murder you in your sleep
After checking some of Grunwald's generally left-leaning articles (I didn't recognize the name), I think his comment proves you can't write satire anymore; you can not image a nut-fringe idea that is stupid or absurd enough that people won't believe it's real. E.g., Westover Baptist, TX Gov. Perry, ...
A drone strike on a Foreign Embassy located in Britain will certainly give him a bigger challenge than he will be able to handle in his effort to justify.
IMHO, Manning and Snowden deserve the death penalty for treason and aiding/abetting. BUT, they are Americans pledged to not do what they did.
Assange is not American, and never took an oath to protect American, or even western, or Australian secrets. As such, the WORST thing that can be said is that he was a fence of stolen goods (he was/is NOT part of the press). But for all of the attempts by the west to get him is just plain WRONG. We have no business blocking him from going to Ecuador. He should go to Sweden to stand trial for his crimes and then be allowed to go to Ecuador.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
This sounds a bit like some reporter saying "Dammit, it's too boring around here today. I wish there was a grisly fatal multicar pileup so I could write something about it."
Then again, there's the old Hollywood idea that any hype is good hype for a career. Grunwald is certainly getting discussed more now than before this.
You must have drank the Reverend Billy Gates Koolaid if you Blue Screen with glee.
Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
I'd love to see this, but not because I wish any harm on Assange (even though I personally think he's a douchebag of the highest order, that's not an offense worthy of capital punishment). No, I'd love to see the boot-lickers TRY to justify the unsanctioned murder of a foreign national on third-party soil. They would be so torn between their supposed progressive ideal of "we shouldn't police the world" and their unabashed devotion to Dear Leader that their heads would probably explode from the contradiction. I honestly don't think they'd know which way to spin it, and would end up just mumbling on air while looking like a deer in headlights.
In the end, they'd still try to justify it because they know it could be the rallying cry for the masses FINALLY waking up and booting every single one of these clowns out of office. If that happens, the media loses their biggest ally and would have to go back to actual journalism instead of repeating whatever the White House Press Office gives them...
Or maybe we'll just end up with more reality-tv tripe and things will continue on. Probably this, but I can dream, can't I?
"So after all this, you make my case for me. To end this stalemate, you must die..."
I harbor a huge dislike of Assange, on the personal level. It's my gut reaction, and nothing I've learned about him moderates that. I would not want to spend one minute around him. He seems to be brimming over with shallow narcissism and pseudo-intellectualism. You nailed it with the equivalency to the Kardashians.
Doesn't mean he hasn't done some good, even if by accident. The aid he's given Snowden, for instance, is valuable. I like wikileaks in theory, and I like Snowden. I think Snowden did what he did because he truly wants to improve America, not out of insecurity and fragile egotism like Assange.
I don't know about that as when Win 8 BSODs on a laptop at the shop I'm all gleeful as at least the damned thing isn't treating every touch of the damned trackpad as a fucking swipe and popping that charms shit up. I swear Win 8 ought to be called "Stop doing that!" as its what i hear from every customer who tries to show me what is "wrong" with their system.
ACs don't waste your time replying, your posts are never seen by me.
and another between them know what injustice is.
There's a very short distance between what he's advocating and the government-sanctioned murder of journalists, dissidents, conscientious objectors and whistleblowers.
Given that the DOJ is now going against companies that give classes in evading polygraph tests, I can only imagine the number of other things that will be made illegal over the next decade to serve the security state. And this guy seems to be a cheerleader for it.
Snowden at least stands accused of treason. Assange faces rape-after-the-fact charges in one of the most misandrous countries on the planet. Where the fuck does a drone strike against the latter even become a topic open for discussion?
Defend Assange for his efforts for freedom of information all you want, but don't lie about the sexual assault charges. He's not charged with "rape-after-the-fact" or any such biased bullshiat. He's charged with sexual assault, period. Hell, even if you disagree with the charges, disagree with the actual charges, but don't spread a bunch of lies that are set up to discredit rape victims.
When you lower yourself to an opponent's own "low ground" you = them. It'll forever dominate your destiny & you'll not only keep it up, but have to INCREASE doing it to cover your ass/tracks... which fails in the final analysis when the motives BEHIND such machinations aren't based on 100% truth, but rather, on "viruses of the spirit" (mainly greed).
When nobody "guards the guards" (law enforcement)? Corruption & abuse is guaranteed to set in. It's human natuer that "when the cat's away, the mice WILL play". It all fits the historical mold: Create "terror" & an enemy as job #1, get ahold of political, religious, & economic systems (IMF), & then mass media/communications... same as any dictatorial or fascistic regime has ALWAYS done.
Well, that's when the "good guys" are no longer GOOD guys, & especially if practicing the lame low mechanics of an "alleged enemy of the state", when it's REALLY about "continuity of government" (keeping those in power, in power).
In fact? You put it another way in another post of yours quoting Nietzche in fact (which I borrowed by the by, later in another post - thanks): "Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster"
(Regarding our conversations on trolls & their sockpuppet multiple account mechanics & what-not - which isn't limited to forums online, it goes on ALL thru history - mainly from political or religion based sources...)
It's what's happened to ALL governments imo, & their law enforcement agencies... they've fallen into that death-spiral, & are dragging economic systems right down with them. They don't care either.
* In FACT, for once? I'm going to cite (of all people) Jeremiah Cornelius (whom I can't understand WHY he pulls shit on me like he did in the past, yet he & I see "eye to eye" on MANY things in the socio-political spectrum):
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=4099151&cid=44594301
(Either he's one hell of an "infiltrate & incite riot" agent provocateur, or he's pretty much A-OK & analyzes things rationally (the latter of which I respect, the former I hate)).
APK
P.S.=> Imo @ least (hence my belief system pretty much I outlined to you in that capacity - no real religion, just belief in God) - It ALL boils down to something VERY simple that often gets abused to "stir up the sheep": Religious ideologies - & the wasp (christians)/jews vs. Islamists/muslims.... they contradict one another (polar opposites on many issues) & even their OWN written beliefs, just to "fit things into their own picture as to 'why they are better'" - truth be told, neither is, & neither is without sin, using the SAME EXACT MECHANICS ALL THRU HISTORY on one another (fucking everyone else & progress, right the hell up, for decades to centuries @ a time no less) - insanity just because a few select "elitists" want power, nothing more (that's what I see @ least)!
... apk
How dare he remove the blindfold that keeps voters from knowing the direction that their country is heading! We journalists have worked long and hard to support that blindfold. As a dedicated journalist, I'd drone-f&^$ any person who would be so arrogant as to inform the public. We need to wage war, not on government secrecy, but on personal secrecy, and we need to respect the governments right to privacy, so the voters can decide on the important issues, like what church their representative goes to, or whether they have diligently adhered to the two-inches-below-elbow-rolled-up-sleeves rule.
Julian Assange did a service to the world, by exposing criminal behavior done by the US military on innocent civilians (reporters for US newspapers). He ran a website that exposes this information, and he exposed the information in conjunction with large, well established German, American, British, Australian and Canadian newspapers. Drone strikes on the New York Times? No? But Julian Assange, yes, the Times reporter wants drones... It sounds stupid, but that's the sum total of it.
Note: Swedish man tax was overthrown in 2004.
And you can say that - in argument against an accusation of misandry - with a straight face how???
The US eliminated the poll tax in 1964. Has it enjoyed 40+ years of perfect racial harmony since then?
What is *was* , was some filthy jew kike spouting off his jew nose about how he loves his jew friends who jew up the world taking over eqypt, iraq, yeme, saudi arabia, and the rest of the jew states, and how his jew assassination drones and squads want to put a jew bullet in the truth, Mr Assange.
Does that clear any misconceptions you have about the tweet, you stupid motherfucker?
In case knowing what you are talking about is of any concern, there are a variety of federal statutes that protect people from retaliation if they are actually "whistleblowers" in any reasonable sense of the word. Spoiler: ignoring the multitude of intra-governmental ways he could have addressed this, including taking it to literally hundreds of politicians and bureaucrats who could have initiated an inquiry, and instead fleeing the country, essentially orchestrating a PR campaign against the United States, and arguably now selling secrets to the Russians IS NOT "WHISTLEBLOWING".
"Outdated business models" is code for "I don't like paying for things, but want them anyway"
Just more Obama speak from the Obama news cartel. Treason only seems to be a crime in the US when it's not the US president committing it.
Suprise sex.
Which evidence has been so tainted, it will be impossible to convict for.
But this isn't a problem. Some foreigner in Sweden who has a crime alleged with them in Sweden can be extradited without recourse to any other country that they have an agreement with who wishes to have him face charges there. However, once charged, they must see the claims all the way through in the Swedish courts first.
#Can't wait for Time to justify firing a reporter
He's charged with sexual assault, period. Hell, even if you disagree with the charges, disagree with the actual charges, but don't spread a bunch of lies that are set up to discredit rape victims.
You just asked previous poster not to lie about the sexual assault charges. There ARE no charges. He has not been charged with any crime.
You've never lived or spent much time in Sweden, have you?
It's true that relations between the sexes are rather different here than most places I've been. The difference is that women here are brought up to believe that they're fully equal to men, and they're not obligated in any way to do whatever men tell them to do simply because they're women.
It might not be what you're used to (and it took me a few years to adjust to it, myself), but to dismiss it as "misandry" is a complete mischaracterisation.
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
Federal statutes? Seriously? Wow, I'm sure that makes everything just fine and dandy! Gee thanks for setting me straight, mister!
Snowden told the American people about billions of counts of illegal wiretapping by the NSA. He exposed a crime, he's a whistleblower, QED. Your claim that he's "selling secrets to the russians" is a baseless smear, so fuck you.
-jcr
The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
You blithering idiot. If the US government obeyed laws, we wouldn't even know who Snowden is. You know goddamned well that if they got their hands on Snowden, they'd torture him like Bradley Manning.
Fred Phelps is a Democrat, and ran for office a number of times as a Democrat. Also was a big supporter of Mr. Al Gore.
You are painfully delusional. There are six hundred billion ways he could have brought this information to light without jeopardizing US intelligence programs and lives and giving free ammunition to worthless authoritarian regimes. You and the mindless idiots posting below you, such as the fuckwit who tells us that of course Snowden would be "tortured" by the US government "like Bradley Manning" deserve neither the protection that keeps you alive nor the air you breathe. Fuck off and die.
"Outdated business models" is code for "I don't like paying for things, but want them anyway"
If the Kardashians are nuked from orbit, my wife will commit suicide! I will become a widower and my kids will become orphans. No, please please let them live. Kill Rodman and Assange if you will, but don't you dare mess with the K's!!!
Bias and malignancy.
To all the traitors that would condone every whistle-blower be jailed or murdered, you deserve neither liberty nor freedom.
Never mess with mother nature and russia
Casteism
Misandry is where you discard the idea of societal harm to males and change the subject to the rights of females.
And the US is the most successful country in history. Probably just a coincidence....
By what standard? It doesn't even crack the top five for land (British Empire, Mongol Empire, Russian Empire, Spanish Empire, Umayyad Caliphate), nor for population (Achaemenid Empire, Mauryan Empire, Sassanid Empire, Qing Dynasty, Ymayyad Caliphate) and, I'm not even going to look it up, but trust me it's nowhere near the top for duration.
The only one the US 'wins' is historically adjusted GDP (America, Qing Dynasty, Mughal Empire, British Empire, Russian Empire) and even there, China is expected to surpass the US by 2016. So be careful with your claims of "Most successful in history". There are some of us out here who actually know history. And by histories standards, the US is notable, but hardly #1.
So, if the government is going to give this bozo equal time, there'll be a SWAT team bust in his door, steal all his electronics for "inspection" (and of course will stomp on them on the way to the evidence room), and will put him in jail for...oh...maybe a year for "hate speech", right?
Of course not, because the people that pull the trigger agree with this jackass. They're just not stupid enough (by and large) to have posted something like that in a public place.
-Ken
Saying "The law should protect me" is little comfort when faced with an agency known for its dirty tricks and now stands accused of violating other laws as a matter of casual policy.
Supposedly laws were supposed to protect Bradley Manning, but after his torture, I wouldn't blame anyone for thinking they'd be far safer in non-US jurisdiction.
You are well named. As a troll you bring neither fact nor insight and exist only to rile people up. I apologize for falling for it, I should have known better by now.
Please don't try to redefine words to suit your agenda. It does not make you look smart.
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
I'll gladly assist for a pint of Irish Red ;)
since both parties are populits basterds
it would be a shame thought the only person from equador i met so far was really nice unless she lied about her
origin
Free speech was meant to be free for all... how can anyone grow up in a nanny state ?
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=4117625&cid=44668899 where though you point out old IE builds bugs (IE 11 exists free/no bugs) it's easily gotten around. With Win7 only 2 remote bugs (environment strings/dao) that are easily manually fixed or have free better alternatives!
(Where only 1 app, an Apple product no less, exploits 1 and data middleware that's old that has more able replacements).
You fail!
Fact: You're the hypocrite whose methods were used against him to greater harm to your "evidences" by far (26 total in only 2 examples) in that link above.
( By the way: How's Linux doing @ NASDAQ this week? Not good http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/22/nasdaq-shutdown_n_3798675.html )