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Students At Lynn University Get iPad Minis Instead of Textbooks

Dave_Minsky writes "About 600 students will enter Lynn University's freshman class this year, the largest since 2007, and they will all be using iPad Minis instead of textbooks. The iPads will cost $475, saving students up to 50% of what a semester's worth of textbooks would cost, estimates Lynn. Students will be able to access core curriculum classes on their iPads that are 'enhanced with custom multimedia content,' and will come with 'at least 30 education, productivity, social and news-related iOS apps — some free and some paid for by the university.' This seems to be the beginning of a new era for American colleges. The Boca Raton university is not the first to give iPads to students instead of textbooks. Back in 2010, New Jersey-based Seton Hill University announced it would give students the tablets rather than books."

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  1. Am I glad? by djupedal · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Yes I am. About what? Glad you asked - the fact that my apps are sold to edu at a discount and schools buy in bulk. Very glad indeed $$

  2. Considering the cost of one Texbook by ackthpt · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This could be a good thing, but only if it reduces the price of the average content.

    all prices subject to change if publisher feels he needs a bonus

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    1. Re:Considering the cost of one Texbook by berashith · · Score: 3, Interesting

      sometimes it is nice to have a book from a class for a while after the class is over. This will also end borrowing books, or buying really cheap used books. And want to retake a class for a better score... buy the book again. Everyone pays full e-price for access to the online content for this semester.

    2. Re:Considering the cost of one Texbook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Unfortunately, textbook publishers generally charge the same amount for "digital" copies, while eliminating the used market through the use of activation codes. So, you still spend the same amount on text books (more, if you were planning to buy used), you cannot recoup any of that cost by reselling after the semester is over, and now you have to buy an iPad on top of it all -- even if it's wrapped up in the cost of tuition, you're still buying it. This is a win for only one group: the publishers.

    3. Re:Considering the cost of one Texbook by asmkm22 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Sadly, it won't. One thing companies have shown us is that they have no interest in passing the cost savings of digital distribution on to the consumer. They just look at it as extra profit. "Books" will be as expensive as ever, but will now require the hardware to read them.

      What's even more insulting is the number of college courses that require you to purchase a book, only to find out that the teacher will barely use it. There were lots of classes where I was able to just leave the book shrinkwrapped, and just return it after a week or so claiming I purchased an extra on accident.

  3. Not New Jersey by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Seton Hill University is in Pennsylvania. It's more popularly known sister school, Seton Hall University, is in New Jersey.

  4. Actually, I like the dead trees by SecurityGuy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    My interest in science and technology was sparked by the college textbooks the prior generation left lying around. I'm not really opposed to ditching dead trees for digital, but I either want my access to the content to be permanent, just like a book, or I want the price to be WAY less than 1/2 the cost of buying the books.

    1. Re:Actually, I like the dead trees by jellomizer · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Well you do also get an iPad that you can do stuff other then reading your text books.

      When going to grad school, I was lucky enough that most of my professors gave me PDFs of the documents they wanted to read and the school had an electronic access to journals. So I could get the document in electronic form. This is much better then a text book. For one I have condition where my eyes cannot follow straight lines, making reading books very difficult without a ruler, as I will jump to the next line and read a partial sentence. However on screen I can highlight the text while I am reading, Or have it text to speech the content to me. Where I can sit back and rest my eyes and listen to the content, or read along while it is playing. Making sure that I am not missing anything.

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    2. Re:Actually, I like the dead trees by denis-The-menace · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That's right, Time-Bomb Textbooks.

      Oh you failed that course and need to take it again?
      Too bad, your 1 year "right to read" has expired.
      Pay for that textbook, AGAIN.

      1st sale doctrine? NOTHING was sold to you.
      It was a lease!

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  5. Re:I remember when by shadowrat · · Score: 4, Insightful

    you could read books for free at a thing called a Library.

    i don't remember a time when i could refrain from spending hundreds of dollars on textbooks because they were all free at the library.

  6. Re:Who cares? by Culture20 · · Score: 5, Insightful
  7. Ahh... it will SAVE students money. by ReallyEvilCanine · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So no resale at all rather than the shitty 3% return most campus bookstores pay. No holding onto for future reference. Little ability to gloss notes. And with the money they "save", students will be able to cover almost half of the "general fee" increase this year.

  8. Right to read by knarf · · Score: 5, Insightful

    For Dan Halbert, the road to Tycho began in collegeâ"when Lissa Lenz asked to borrow his computer. Hers had broken down, and unless she could borrow another, she would fail her midterm project. There was no one she dared ask, except Dan...

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  9. ipad MINI ?!?! by meerling · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That's a horrible choice. I don't know about the books you have to read, but that miniature screen is too freaking small for several of the textbooks I had to use.

    Yes, I know you can enlarge the view, but you can't enlarge the screen, and when you need to see the whole thing at a size large enough to make out the details, a miniature screen is annoying and useless. The mini is a fail for that purpose.

  10. It's about time by Ghostworks · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Every time I look at my old engineering texts taking up shelf space I think, "I wish that someone could take all these, cut out about half of the valuable material, dice up the remainder between 30 odd sites and apps, and then tie it to a device with a 7-year shelf life."

    As anyone who's dealt education-oriented online media (such as Blackboard) can tell you, the products are not always stellar. You get less text, its usually structured in such a way that it takes longer to read, the access is spotty, and it will probably not work as well as that in a year. Even the number one benefit of digitization -- search -- tends to be awkward or incomplete.

    They say the iPad is about half the cost of books. I can easily believe that, but it also means you don't get to buy used books, or re-sell your used books. They've streamlined the process in a way that either offers no benefit, or benefits suppliers more than students.

    It did convince the university to buy their student's books for them, provided you don't consider being forced to buy an iPad as being the same as being forced to "rent" used books. Or for that matter, so long as you don't consider going to a free library as an option. And so long as you don't consider that buying an iPad and getting electronic copies of textbooks was always an option for most books. All the ways they've streamlined the process are for the primary benefit of the supplier of the material.

    Overall, it seems workable for books that you no interest in keeping beyond one semester (electives). But that is exactly the case where you can generally benefit from being flexible, buying bog-standard books from any store you please, buying a digital copy, or going to the library as needed. If you're talking about material that will actually continue to be relevant after a single semester, it sounds like a bad idea, putting a random-valued timer on your reference material.

  11. Re:No more "the dog ate my homework" by swamp+boy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    or "I dropped it"

  12. As if tuition didn't cost enough... by FuzzNugget · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Now the textbook industry can join in on the rent-seeking business model for doing almost nothing.

  13. This solves many problems by EmagGeek · · Score: 4, Funny

    1) This solves the problem of student access to class materials. See, with the eBook approach, licenses can be made to be enabled on the first day of class and disabled on the last day of class. This prevents students from having early access to class materials, which levels the playing field for those who, for whatever reason, do not care to start learning before the first day of class

    2) This solves the problem of killing trees. Now, instead of using renewable, natural resources to print textbooks that last 50 or more years on a shelf and provide information over a person's entire career and even lifetime, we can start using non-renewable rare earth materials to make iPads, which last perhaps a few years and may or may not be able to give access to that same information depending on whether or not someone else wants you to be able to read it.

    3) This solves the problem of organic learning. With the smaller form factor and lower density of information, as well as the appeal to a shorter attention span, we can stop all this organic learning stuff and resort instead to rote memorization of bulleted facts, figures, and equations, which can then simply be regurgitated on multiple-choice exams.

    Hobbling more competitive students, more destruction to the environment and higher cost, and dumbing down our students. It's a hat-trick of WIN!

  14. Re:I remember when by ljw1004 · · Score: 3, Informative

    i don't remember a time when i could refrain from spending hundreds of dollars on textbooks because they were all free at the library.

    I do! Spent a total of $50 on books for my entire college degree (1992-1995, Computer Science, University of Cambridge, England).

  15. I like this better the more free books they use by steveha · · Score: 3, Interesting

    As soon as anyone, anywhere in the world, has written a useful textbook with a free license, the whole world gains that textbook.

    I hope we will start seeing graduate students writing undergrad textbooks as projects, and releasing them with open licenses. Or seeing "publish or perish" professors satisfying the "publish" requirement by writing free textbooks.

    Even if the world only got one useful textbook per year for any given discipline, it wouldn't take many years before students could get a degree using nothing but free textbooks.

    Also, for subjects like math, once a textbook is done, it shouldn't take much to keep it current. Even for subjects like computer science where the state of the art is evolving, it would be relatively easy to keep the books up to date, and the basics don't change that much.

    Free and available textbooks would be nice to have for people living in wealthy countries, but would be a very big deal for people trying to get an education in really poor places. Etexts are the reason I got excited about the OLPC project when it was announced.

    There are plenty of people and companies who like the current system, but there are also plenty of people who have no stake in the current system and could release free books.

    If most or all of the books are completely free, then using a tablet is a complete win over dead trees textbooks.

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