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GTA V Makes $800 Million In 24 Hours
An anonymous reader writes "The highly anticipated Grand Theft Auto V was released at midnight yesterday, and to no surprise has managed to break the record for highest sales in 24 hours. Distributors Take-Two Interactive have announced that the game has managed to achieve a staggering $800m (£490m) worth of sales within the first day, and is certainly going to break the forecasted $1 billion within the week. The record was previous held by Activision's Call of Duty: Black Ops which made $500m within 24 hours in 2009. The game also holds the title for the quickest entertainment product to achieve $1 billion in sales as they hit the mark by day 15."
Those numbers would be even higher if they stopped shunning their roots by delaying PC releases and turning PC into a shitty port from consoles.
Nice way to say goodbye to the current gen and welcome the next.
The game is incredible, if you're a fan of the GTA series, they've really addressed many issues with the game. The storyline is told better and more compelling than previous ones (that includes Gay Tony, which was quite good)
The graphics / environment / effects - god knows how they achieved this, I do not know. Yes some things like Uncharted look nicer but they are a very linear closed environment. For an open world game, it's utterly staggering. I'm playing on PS3 and the resolution seems higher than GTA4, there's more detail and there's more you can do AND the draw distance is further. The frame rate while not a flawless 30 all the time seems honestly better than GTAIV at most times.
The humour, satire, writing in general is utterly tip top. I am not cringing at lines or groaning at character decisions. As usual the commercials (billboard, radio, TV) are just fantastic, some of the random one liners amazing. The stuff they've added like the random mission encounters are awesome. I really can't complain about this at all in any way.
I'm about 35 hours into it (picked it up midnight Monday night) and about 2/3 of the way through it I'd say. It's just brilliant, it really is.
If you want to wait for the PC or oft wished for PS4 editions, go for it - but posting in reply here how inferior this is, pointless - the game is great, you can play it right now. If you want to complain that it's crap because "it doesn't do XYZ that Saints Row does" - good for you, hit up Saints Row!
This world blends together so many immersive things, it's just incredible. I love the shit out of this game.
$89 AUD? In hindsight I think I would've gladly paid $189 AUD. Just brilliant.
And some people are both stupid and arrogant.
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This is close to the highest grossing films (Avatar at 2.7 billion), but there is a difference in that we don't get to know how much a game cost and how much it sold unless the publisher wants us to.
All films have budget and box office numbers on their Wikipedia pages and IMDB and I think it's about time that happened for video games as well.
It's conventional in the entertainment business to do these comparisons with unadjusted dollars, but given that the previous record holder came out just a few years ago, and this has beaten it by almost a factor of two, it's moot.
Unless inflation has suddenly got a lot worse than I thought.
No kidding!!! What do you say at this point?
Here at least, I've heard about the game in the "News" again and again. (Belgium)
Such or such shop exceptionnaly opened at 22:00 so people could queue and buy the game at 00:00 (here shops are usually closed at 18:30). ...".
Such or such "expert" speaking about the influence on the children of such "an incredibely well done game, so realistic and with such an incredible level of freedom
Is it so amazing that, with so much coverage, people not knowing anything about games would have an incentive, an urge, to put their hands on that "phenomenon" ?
I only remember that GTA IV was so boring, so repetitive and so identical to the previous ones that I put it aside for some other game.
Still, GTA IV was also highly rated and heavily advertised/covered by "journalists".
History repeats itself. Deal with it.
Irrelevant news and morons using moderation to mod down what they disagree on. 2018 resolution: so long.
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-jcr
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http://www.theonion.com/articles/gta-v-a-sophisticated-gaming-experience-says-man-w,33893/
Most people are stupid and like shallow entertainment.
You don't have to be stupid to enjoy shallow entertainment.
No sig today...
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/young-men-impersonate-cops-buy-gta-4-article-1.1459299
"Young Staten Island men impersonate police officers to skip line to buy Grand Theft Auto V
Kirolos Abdel Sayed, 19, Matthew Kirshen, 20, and Frank Santanastoso, 19, drove to the Staten Island Mall in what appeared to be an unmarked car complete with lights and sirens only to have their fun ended by real police officers."
-Styopa
GTA is shallow and boring.
Compared to what? GTA is one of the most free-form and detailed virtual worlds there is. It's filled with beauty, technical awesomeness and humour. Are you just not a fan of games in general? What did you think of Red Dead Redemption?
which is totally what she said
Your pretty dumb.
God I love this line. I can't stop laughing.
Pretty good is actually pretty bad.
I wish :p
which is totally what she said
The youtube lets play I saw of Red Dead Redemption was interesting. But it was far from worth watching more than 30 minutes of it. It was nice to see someone try to make a historically interesting western game. However http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_(video_game) seemed like a more fun and compelling game minus a few pitfalls in gameplay (one I actually did play). I could see how the story in that game might be decent if the time was invested in the gameplay.
I've seen first hand a few people play GTA. And I played a friends GTA4 console version for a few hours ~2.
It was no where near as fun as Saints Row 1 or 2. They decided to "simulate" reality in too much detail. Rather than being a game, arcady. They sacrificed good gameplay for faux realism. The guns reached the uncanny valley. And I sat there thinking. Damn, this is bullshit. Its nothing like real life. Its a farse. The selling point is to give people a simulation to act out their criminal fantasy in. But its a horribly inaccurate simulation. The abstraction they used is not fun from a gameplay perspective. The entire game holds up this promise and falls flat in every regard.
The storyline is no better than a B movie at best. It doesn't tell a compelling or thought provoking tale full of meaningful choices. At least Saints Row was a humorous parody on political topics.
They should have just made a fun shooter. Like Serious Sam.
To me GTA falls short of being a game. And is more like an attraction. And not a very good one.
Detailed virtual worlds exist. But in games like Eve (player made), or Dwarf Fortress (procedural), or Angbhand, Archimedean Dynasty, Frontier: Elite II.
GTA is a pale imitation of real life lacking in fine detail. Even F.E.A.R. was more detailed and compelling. Or Dues Ex which had a well thought out and developed universe.
Funny you should say that... it did, or will. Not sure if it's priced in yet.
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I wouldn't expect PBR2.0 to make 80mil on the first day debute either. But what I'm saying. Is their both swill. But at least the waste water has a slight probiotic bonus. So how could Bud Lite surpass PBR in sales? Except by the extreme ignorance of mankind.
It is a rookie karma whore mistake to poke fun at the zoo keepers. .That is essentially the problem, It is why heroine and pain killers are such nasty things. At least this type of escape doesn't leave track marks and heroine is a far more expensive habit.
Taco is playing GTA V and will get back to you after he checks his stock quotes on his windows phone.
I could be wrong, but I think the moderation dice(.com) are loaded. It does not surprise me that fantasy is a better business than reality because reality is hard and it guarantees no reward. It is the old mouse experiment from the 1960s. You give a mouse a button that stimulates the pleasure center in the brain and they will never eat again and push that button until they die. I think that Ringworld had a running story line about Louis Wu and "The Wire"
So excuse me while I reconnect this wire.
> And to answer your question. If you like GTA. Your pretty dumb.
Pot, meet kettle...
GTA has to be one of the most boring games I've ever played.
GTA was one of the best DOS games ever. How could you not enjoy it? Oh, wait, you're talking about the series? It's not one game, hence my confusion.
I want them to continue developing Half Life !
So just to be clear, because you don't like endlessly doing driving and stealing missions, you want to promote endlessly doing mine-dodging or bug-killing missions. Got it.
So, I own both HL2 and GTA4, and you're just full of shit. GTA4 has an order of magnitude more replay value. This shouldn't have been true, but all the HL2 mods are lame at best; either they're very short or they're very shit.
I guess I'll just be stuck with Age of Empires 2 and Civ 4 and Roller Coaster Tycoon - but at least they're still fun and challenging after all these years!
Oh, right, PC gaming is the best! That's why you're playing games which by computer standards are fucking antiques. Because all the best games come out on PC. Now, I play PC games too, but like you I'm playing the games of yesteryear. Hell, I just dusted off Civ II. Civ IV is just too crashy. Alpha Centauri, likewise, in all versions. Simcity IV just pissed me off for the last time recently. I guess I'll have to build a new desk, so that I can attach my yoke, so I can play flight simulators. But I won't be playing Flight Simulator, even though I own it. It comes with too much PITA factor.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
I liked Just Cause and Just Cause II, but I got the former for 19$ used, and the latter for free. I do not mind mindless tactical puzzles. But GTA doesn't even do that well IMO. The trappings they throw on it just makes it worse.
It is a Hollywood bias. Your right. I don't think I will enjoy games that attempt to be serious. Unless they are scientific or about exploration.
But if I had to compare GTA to almost any other games out there. Its just not a franchise I put any faith in. Even after seeing the first one. I was playing Quake3 heavily at the time of its first release. And mods like Team Fortress, or other cheesy mods (A DBZ one comes to mind).
Gameplay matters. Making fake virtual "ads" and AK47's is pretty dull and has been done to death. Wrapping them together in a package, throwing some nice shaders, and textures down, doesn't make a work of art.
One successful $200m+ game does not mean you can ignore dozens of $100m+ failures.
No kidding!!! What do you say at this point?
Revenues are not profits. Article title is an embarrassment.
Gameplay matters. Making fake virtual "ads" and AK47's is pretty dull and has been done to death. Wrapping them together in a package, throwing some nice shaders, and textures down, doesn't make a work of art.
Gameplay and Story both matter. What GTA's got, especially since San Andreas, is some of the best story around. If you don't like the genre you won't like the game, but that doesn't change the fact that they have a well-developed story.
Also, you may think the gameplay is dull, but GTA successfully combines several different kinds of gameplay in a way that clearly captivates many players, perhaps even a majority of them. And I find the fake ads hilarious, and that the game world would feel dull and empty without them. When I go rocketing through the airport race (I don't have GTAV yet, just IV) and one of the pisswasser ads goes by for a fraction of a second it's hilarious. Does that mean I have an infantile sense of humor? Maybe. Congrats Rockstar for knowing your audience.
I've been playing GTA since the first one, which we played at LAN parties, which were still a thing. And now I'm soon to go out and buy the new one. At full price, no less. The last game I did that with was GTA IV. I've been playing it off and on right up until now.
Meanwhile, how's that Quake franchise doing? Half-Life? Hmm.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
GTA I through Vice City, sure. San Andreas was already bit stale. IV was just incredibly annoying and not sandboxy at all.
Wait, so this means they also lost $2.2Billion to piracy then? I keep forgetting their fake numbers they keep trotting out on how much the companies lose to piracy.
Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
If your company paid $100Mill on a failure game, you deserve to be out of business.
Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
The highest grossing opening day for any film was $91m in the first 24 hours for the last Harry Potter movie.
Science is all about firing a drunk pig out of a cannon just to see what happens.
The same people that dont want to play it on a little kids Screen, 70" screen or go home.
Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
So how could Bud Lite surpass PBR in sales? Except by the extreme ignorance of mankind.
The same way anyone sells either of those beers, extreme ignorance of mankind. PBR is shit just like Budweiser is shit, it's just different shit. PBR is god's curse upon idiots for becoming hipsters.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Most people are stupid and like shallow entertainment.
Even emeritus professors occasionally laugh at fart jokes.
No colour or religion ever stopped the bullet from a gun
Yeah, how dare they support a developer who actually makes original content that entertains them, and hasn't forgot that single-player mode exists!
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Once you go Row you never go Auto.
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That's my point. Many large, previously successful games companies released high-profile, expensive disasters and went broke in the past decade. The games industry has a blockbuster problem.
No kidding!!! What do you say at this point?
Just because you dont enjoy something doesn't mean people who do are 'sheep'. You sound like a jerk, because you are.
60 dollars for a few hundred hours of entertainment isn't a bad deal. Its not entertainment if you dont like the game, which you clearly are dead set to not like. Good for you! So dont buy it.
Not buying something doesn't make you smart, it means you know what you like. That may sugest some wisdom but when your reason is "Because you're all SHEEP!" that more or less shows you're neither wise or smart. You just want to have something to hold over people to try to feel superior because you're not. When the best you can do is not doing something, it only shows how truly pitiful you are. I'm almost sorry for you.
60$ would be a nice drive + meal in a remote and wild place.
Okay, so that would get you 4 or 5 hours entertainment, good wholesome entertainment.
Or visit to a historic and interesting site.
Getting slightly better, a similar amount of entertainment, and maybe some education too.
I'm not convinced that smart people would immediately spend that on day 1 without waiting a few months for reviews.
There's plenty of information about what the content of the game is. That, and rockstar have a reputation to uphold. You can therefore pretty much guarantee that it will have a good hundred hours of entertainment in it. I'm not convinced that smart people would pass up the chance of 100 hours of entertainment at $0.60 an hour because they might be able to get 4 or 5 hours of entertainment in a different way.
is primarily tweens and teens who worship Bieber, Swift, and company... not you /. eggheads. When you are young, there is something deliciously bad about running amok through a world with no rules.
Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know.
Ernest Hemingway
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-24127999
A man was hit with a brick and stabbed before being robbed of the much awaited Grand Theft Auto V video game in north London.
Dead, mostly IMO because the studios aren't keeping up with the times. However Unreal did alright for a bit. Half Life Orange box was an amazing shooter all around. There are some good triple AAA shooters, Killzone comes to mind. But they fall well short of the classic and nostalgic titles for me.
I suppose I'm pretty jaded and and older than most of the people who probably found GTA as one of their nostalgic games. I played Saints Row before GTA4. The two games are similar in genre. And while Saints Row came out well after GTA San Andreas. I think Saints Row did a 10x better job of making a game of it.
If you haven't played Saints Row. Check it out, and see what you were missing. Even the latest one seems amusing (though it is nothing like the originals, and published by a different publisher).
I can in no way justify through experience the purchase of GTAV. But thats me. I'm going to stick by it =) I'de rather purchase a Star Trek adventure game XD.
Call me a snob.
I loved Saints Row 2 (didn't try the first as it sounded like a poor quality knock-off of GTA). It seemed like the spiritual successor to the GTA 3 games. They didn't take themselves nearly as seriously as GTA IV did. I've not played enough of V to know how it compares properly to the previous games (only done a couple of missions), but so far it definitely feels like a more enjoyable place to be than Liberty City in GTA IV.
You should play Vice City or San Andreas if you want to see why everyone loves GTA so much.
I agree that the original Deus Ex is awesome :)
GTA was traditionally not about being real, or living out crime fantasies - more about having fun doing silly things. IV felt like it took itself too seriously sometimes, but hopefully V is back to form.
which is totally what she said
You would have to be pretty dumb to think that anyone whose tastes differ from yours is pretty dumb.
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Maybe because they can walk out of the store with the console for less than it costs to buy the worst PC in the electronics store? Are you the kind of guy who sneers at people buying the ordinary toilet paper and not your preferred $10 super-quilted variety?
No kidding!!! What do you say at this point?
Amateurs. They obviously couldn't make it out of the police search area before being caught or finding a pay&spray. They really should have replayed GTA4 to polish up their police dodging skills...
Mostly for the aforementioned reasons. You fail at trolling a smart ass.
Nah, I'm quite personally biased from buying games for 20+ years now. I think I should have learned a few lessons about shelling out hard earned money for software ;)
Rockstar has a reputation to uphold. So did many other grand studios and publishers. Like Epic, Origin, 3d Realms, Actavision (DIAKATANA *COUGH*), Atari, Blizzard (Diablo III, *COUGH*), and many many others... I mean I could sit here for an hour making a list of reasons not to ever buy a game on release date.
Not to mention were talking about day1 sales. Not even word of mouth sales a week in.
I am sure the important question here is... how many stars did they get for that???
"Only one thing is impossible for God: To find any sense in any copyright law on the planet." - Mark Twain
Try full 720p at 30fps. It looks great, it runs great, the controls are very responsive and the gameplay is excellent.
It's not ~AMAZING PC GAMING OMG GRAFIX XXXTREME!~ snobby PC elitist approved, but the game looks awesome and runs ridiculously well on what is 7-8 year old hardware by now.
What does "locked down" even mean in this context? I buy a game, I put it in the drive, I play the game and I have fun with it. Isn't that what gaming is about? Fun? Is it because it's harder to pirate console games? Is it because it's too easy and not nearly elitist enough? I know I can't play the game on the next generation console (which I'm unlikely to buy, at least until GTA VI comes out), but at that point, I'll probably have upgraded my PC enough that "old" games such as GTA V will run fine on it. So that's my take on it. Consoles for new games, not-top-of-the-line PC for older games that I want to replay. Seems to work fine and it saves me thousands and thousands in endless PC hardware upgrades.
What do I care if a game has dynamic texture vertigon flip-flopping 3000 times/second? All I care is that it's fun, immersive and a nice break from reality. Not how big its framerate theoretically makes my e-penis seem.
Eat the rich.
Heh, beggars can't be choosers I suppose ;p
If you didn't read that in context. Your pretty dumb.
What's wrong with a game that's easily-accessible, but contains some depth and focuses on telling a compelling story of crime, redemption and struggle, while giving you an immersive living open world where you can go as hog wild as you like? Who cares if it's "casual" or "for brogrammers"? It's fun, goddammit, that's what counts. If you'd step down from your elitist "PC gaming is best gaming I'm not listening lalalalalala" throne, you'd be able to see that.
GTA V doesn't need to be online to play, you can play it 100% off line, even on a 360 that has never ever been connected to the internet. I don't know about the PS3, but I assume it's the same there.
However, being online does net you certain rewards. There's a stock market that fluctuates based on other players' actions ingame (crash certain brand of car a lot and the stock drops etc.), there are various real-life websites where you can get small bonuses in game, early access to certain guns and so on, there's an iPhone/Android app where you can customize your cars and teach your dog new tricks and of course there are online leaderboards for missions, tennis, golf and everything else in game. Not mandatory at all, but fun.
October 1st, GTA Online launches, which is the full-on multiplayer, cop-dodging, bank-heisting, guns-blazing online GTA semi-persistent experience. Online (and a Rockstar Games Social Club account) is mandatory for obvious reasons.
Eat the rich.
Who cares. I think its dumb to be buying the brand at premium prices. Its not a "who dares" no one is supposing we legislate against it. Some of us are just sitting here rolling our eyes going "Oh my god, what hath the humans wrought".
Read the full story here:
http://www.thecivilian.co.nz/grand-theft-auto-v-contains-no-disc-just-a-blunt-object-and-a-screwdriver/
-jcr
Battlefield 3 would be an example. Launched the same day on all platforms and worked well on all of them.
It really isn't a big deal to simultaneously develop for multiple platforms and when you get down to it the PC is likely more similar to the Xbox 360 than the 360 is to the PS3 in terms of development tools and style.
The problem is Rockstar are console heads, for various reasons, and relegate the PC release to second class status.
You can also see it with shit like GTA 4. Not only did it come out way after the consoles, but it performed for crap. They can't argue "Oh well the PC just isn't powerful enough," as PCs dominate consoles in every respect at the moment. It was just poorly implemented and optimized.
Do tell, what entertainment do YOU like? Wait really? You like THAT? LOL! Well, fine if you like it, but that's (pick all that apply):
Overrated, Shallow, Stupid, technically flawed, Pretentious, communist, capitalist, feudalist, colonialist, neocolonialist, imperialist (I guess like storm troopers?), mysoginist, hipster, racist, elitist, too mainstream, vulgar, liberal, conservative, unamerican, something sheeple would do, libertarian, classist, immoral, gluttonous, lewd, vain, arrogant, environmentally unsound, unsustainable, disrespectful to native americans, disrespectful to african americans, disrespectful to moon men, culturally insensitive in some other way, fanboish, stupid, homosexual, (some insult based on heterosexuality), effete, too macho, lame, overrated again (because somehow other people liking it is somehow a really big insult), too mainstream, Too popular, not popular enough, Lame, Whiney, left, Right, transgendered, cis-gendered, no-gendered, triple-gendered, Supports DRM, Unrealistically does not support DRM, closed-source, M$, Fandroid, Apple fanboi, Linux insult, nerdy, Lamp,
Okay, I'm out of steam now. I think that should sufficiently cover whatever it is you do for entertainment and why it's bad and I'm better than you.
"Most people are stupid and like shallow entertainment."
Says the first post troll...
I haven't thought of anything clever to put here, but then again most of you haven't either.
"You can get your game without waiting in line!"
Seriously it never ceases to amaze me the morons that go and do something stupid like this to get a copy of a game without waiting in line. You don't have to do that anymore. You go and order on Amazon, and they'll have it sent to your house, on release day. No waiting in line, no BS, it just gets delivered to you.
While the irrational need to have a new game RIGHT NAO is stupid enough (and I say this as a huge gamer) you don't have to wait in line, there's just no reason, in this day and age services will happily deliver to you.
I'm making an assumption here based on my own biased information. I suppose not so smart. But I've learned that my intuition is pretty dead on. It would be interesting to see the average income level, education, and IQ of all these first day sales though.
Since when does PC necessarily mean small screen? A second PC in the living room can output HDMI to any TV made in the past six years. So can a laptop. Put a mouse and keyboard on a tray table and start gaming.
Interesting. There is a subset of gamers who will kill prolifically enough for a media smorgasbord. It may well be the violence in the game translates to/fosters violence in real life. There is also a correlation between those who play FPS games and those who drink milk. There are too many milk drinkers in the world anyway.~
Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know.
Ernest Hemingway
For income comparison. Keep in mind that GTA5 made that 800 million in one day.
http://www.imdb.com/boxoffice/alltimegross
1. Avatar (2009) $760,505,847
2. Titanic (1997) $658,672,302
3. The Avengers (2012) $623,279,547
4. The Dark Knight (2008) $533,316,061
What does "locked down" even mean in this context? I buy a game, I put it in the drive, I play the game and I have fun with it. Isn't that what gaming is about? Fun?
To some people, gaming is about being able to choose your fun. This can involve downloading and installing a mod once you tire of the vanilla game. Or it can involve installing an indie game whose developer is still seeking a publisher to bring it to the consoles. It can even involve helping to make a mod or an indie game, if that's how you swing. PC gamers can become the ruler of the fun kingdom.
Your pretty dumb.
Oh the irony. Your sentence contains a possessive, two adjectives and no noun or verb.
If you are not allowed to question your government then the government has answered your question.
Fuck that, tell me how he manages to be so crap at a game that it takes him 30+ hours to finish!
Well, I know a lot of people in the modern generation tend to play the game like a movie. Find out all the cheats and fly through so they can buy the next $60 title. However, some of us prefer to solve the puzzles, get the hidden items and explore the whole game. This takes hundreds of hours, but I always find it more entertaining and stimulating to work it out than to cheat my way through.
Also, I have played GTA from I think GTA 3, and I have always played it from the perspective of doing the least harm possible. When I first started, I didn't even run red lights, until I learned that the cops won't chase you for that. I still am disappointed when I am in the middle of a mission and I accidentally hit a pedestrian while being chased or even worse is when the story requires you to kill a bystander. Heck, even when they give me a choice about killing a criminal, I choose to let them go.
Frankly, I think that most of the assumptions that people make about the GTA series comes from people who haven't actually played it. Just like most any other topic, most people who talk about it are talking out of their rear end.
If you are not allowed to question your government then the government has answered your question.
They "lack depth?" In what aspect? They're sandbox style games. GTA has some of the biggest maps with the most you can do in them. It's quite deep compared to other games in that reguard.
If you're talking about "it has a shallow plot" then you need to realize you aren't reading a book. You are playing a sandbox style game.
If you are complaining about shallow driving, shooting, and dart minigames, then you need to realize you aren't playing a driving simulator, a shooter, or a dart videogame. You are playing a sandbox style game.
Why not just say "overrated?" The hipsters do it for a reason: no one can argue with overrated, and it shows your disdain of the vulgar pleasures of the commonfolk. If you find one guy who says "I LUV GTA! IT'S THE BEST!' then you can accurately say that the game is overrated. If you make more specific picks about a popular game you hate simply because it's popular, you could be wrong.
There must be something really special about any phenomenon (in this case a video game) that compels people in the world to spend almost $1,000 million dollars in less than 2 weeks. I'm not a video game fan anymore, but I think I can understand the frenzy. In any case, although I prefer cinema to video games as a form of art, I recognize that at least video games like this forces you to be an active participant, and don't let you be just a passive viewer.
GTA? Cops and robbers - pacman with a car and guns.
You say that like it's a bad thing. Pacman is still one of the best games ever. This is like saying "Nine Inch Nails? It's just Bach with a sampler and clinical depression". That's actually high praise.
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Don't get me wrong, I enjoy GTA games once in a while, but you mostly walk around between one crappy mini-game and the next with a so-so story gluing it all together. The mini-games aren't any better than random flash games online.
I skipped a lot of those mini-games too in GTA4. Weren't my cup of tea either. The missions were lots of fun though.
How the fuck is that interesting?
The parent replies to a statement in a way that has no bearing at all to the general discussion, does not open anything else. He just states "I do not care about that game" and then rambles about something unrelated.
Unless that Dunbal is someone totally important this is "redundant -1" at best.
Pacman is boring and repetative. I was tired of it 20 years ago, and even the nostalgia of playing it on a full-sized console wears off after feeding it quarters. It's boring. Ladybug was cool though. And at least Donkey Kong and Frogger took skill. I'd take the old Street Fighter or Mortal Kombat over any GTA, any day.
At least is your 70" 4k ? Because I certainly favor playing on my triple 30" @ 2560x1600 each than my 70" full hd. Perhaps if it was 4K I'd favor the 70", but I am not even sure of that.
I see what you did there. You did the old, "I'm going to be a pedantic jackass by feigning confusion for a second" routine.
Which is still better than calling a series a game. It isn't, and no amount of calling it that will make it so. Instead of whining about how you don't like the device I used, why don't you do something useful, like masturbation?
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
I am not paying $60 to sit in some stuffy restaurant where they serve little bits of food on big plates. I'm also not paying $60 for some musical stage thing where all they do is sing show tunes. Definately not paying $60 to go deep sea fishing just so I can sit out in the hot sun, stink, and drink cheap beer.
I'll probably pay $60 to sit in the sun and watch a bunch of cowboys get bucked Oof of horses and bulls. And would pay $60 for a pile of comics at the comic book store. I'd even pay $60 for Elder ScrollsVI and waste a lot of hours there.
I any of y'all like or dislike stuff that is different from me, y'all are fools but if you do like the same things as me you're all posers who are trying to muscle in on my groove and now I hate the stuff I used to like.
Remember, nothing is any good if other people like it -and- nothing is any good if other people like stuff I don't.
So there!
I drank what? -- Socrates
Or the numbers would be much lower if they used the real definition of "Makes" is has taken 800 million, but a lot of that money has gone on paying staff in stores to sell, shipping costs, packaging costs, staff costs etc..
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Most of the money comes from console sales now. GTA games were always console-style, even the originals which were done on the PC originally, so it makes good sense. They got a lot of flak from people who couldn't run GTA4 properly on PC for one reason or another (not enough cores, crappy video drivers, whatever) and they want to be sure it will work this time around.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Age of Empires was an RTS, not a Simulation game.
Geez, make up your mind. First you say you want more sequels to a bunch of 10-20 year old games, and then the next paragraph you say you don't want rehashed versions of 15 year old games. Which one is it?
I've gotta say that the minigames in GTA4 are anything but shallow. Even the pool game is way more complicated than it seems at first. The precise way you wiggle the stick as you hit the cue ball is completely relevant, not just the english point you set before striking. Bowling likewise. I can't imagine they'd have made the minigames in the new title any less complex. Similarly, the driving is quite detailed; it is however frustrating because of map errors and slow loading, for example when you hit a seam in the pavement that looks like nothing from any angle, even up close, or when you hit some orange cones which haven't loaded yet. If you can't display the damned things, how can you have the audacity to have me run into them? Now I have to memorize the locations of traffic cones so that when I'm really hauling ass I don't fly off my motorcycle and into the river? Thanks, thanks a lot, especially when one of those points is on a race route. Still an amazing game in spite of its flaws. I had to stop playing Fallout because it corrupted my autosave one too many times. That is just fucking unacceptable. No GTA title has ever done that to me, although I'm sure it's happened to someone somewhere somewhen.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Ok. High iq here, phd, director at a major fortune 50 company, mid 30s. I haven't bought the game yet but I damn well will. If its discounted by then, so be it. If not, that's ok
You have forgotten a demographic; high functioning professionals who have been playing these games since college. It's not worth waiting months to save the $10.
Also, your original point is filled with false dilemmas. I'm pretty sure I've gone hiking, dining, and played gta3 in the same day.
IV felt like it took itself too seriously sometimes, but hopefully V is back to form.
I personally really appreciated that GTA4 was more like a contemporary drama. But I also like silly games. I believe it's time for a re-envisioning of Interstate '76... in the RAGE engine. And with Rockstar-quality writing.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
XGA DLP that will do 80" on your wall is around $400 now, maybe less. Spend more or less and get more or less. Anyone can have a reasonable-quality picture on their wall, if they have a wall, instead of a big screen TV. That is, if they don't need a tuner in their display. Who does?
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Pacman is boring and repetative. I was tired of it 20 years ago, and even the nostalgia of playing it on a full-sized console wears off after feeding it quarters. It's boring. Ladybug was cool though.
Speaking as someone who formerly owned a Ladybug cocktail cab, you're just name dropping. Ladybug was cool, but it wasn't so much cooler than Pacman that you can really throw rocks at Pacman if you're playing Ladybug.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Your intuition is always dead on when you fulfill your own prophecies.
I'm sure those grapes over there are sour. You didn't want them anyway.
I prefer jigsaw puzzles: 1000 piece puzzle for $2 @ Goodwill, takes 12 hours (on average) to assemble - $0.16/hour
...and while doing that I can listen to an audio book, the news or "watch" a movie. Honey, does my gray beard need trimming?
I come here for the love
Luckily there's no words ending with s or d, or it's odds on there'd be an intrusive apostrophe.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
More skill. Bigger levels. More options for gameplay.
Ladybug > Pacman
GTA *
The comparisons should be made in Bitcoins.
If you didn't read that in context. Your pretty dumb.
...and you suck at haiku...and spelling, and reading comprehension, and irony...
"I love animals! Some are cute, others are tasty, what's not to like?" - Betsy Schroeder, Jeopardy contestant
Jesus, I don't even consider buying a game unless I know I can get at least 100 hours out of it. Some of my favorites probably have more like 500 to 1,000. What does a six hour game even look like? That sounds like watching commercials instead of films, to me.
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Why not both? Finished SR4 on saturday, started GTAV on tuesday :) Love both!
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FTFY.
The gaming industry has sensation seekers over a barrel. You're only satisfied with the latest and greatest, and you probably value being there and part of the crowd when it happens.
The primacy of first class revenue streams is not going to change until movies earn more revenue not on the opening weekend, but the weekend after—supposing it doesn't suck.
The new shiny! Ready, set, go ...
That group experience is what they are really selling here.
I imagine you originally fed yourself by sucking on your mother's tit. What changed your mind?
I'm not convinced that smart people would immediately spend that on day 1 without waiting a few months for reviews.
With GTA5 you are pretty safe in getting at least your $60 worth of entertainment. If you're worried, you can glean enough information from what has been released in adverts and sneak peaks to confirm a reasonable assumption that it will be at the very minimum playable for days worth of entertainment.
Of course there is always the risk that they will screw the game up in tiny ways you find annoying (e.g. increased "air control" where there was way too much already) but you know that since you put up with its other likely-to-return shortcomings (e.g. no remappable controller buttons) and still enjoyed it, you'll get over that and still enjoy it.
Someone had to do it.
8 -10 hours, I don't know what console games you're playing or thinking of, but most are closer to 80 - 100. Even the character platformers are huge now.
Now if you're thinking of the singleplayer modes in "Call of the Medal of the Gears of The Battlefield of War Sergeant Shooty Master Chief Extreme Edition"... well no one buys those games for the single-player.... they spend hundreds of hours in the multiplayer and ignore the single-player.
Why do you care?
-jcr
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I'd have to respectfully agree on the mouse angle, but disagree about keyboards.
The only advantage I see for keyboards is that they have lots of keys (and are somewhat customizable for which ones you use in most games). Otherwise they're inconsistent (flat keyboard, "extra gaming keys" version, split keyboard, tilted keyboard, etc) and rather clunky for games.
Now a controller with a d-pad/joystick and a few buttons coupled with a mouse-type input device, I could dig for sure. Possibly allowing standard USB keyboards an an input device would be cool too, but I don't know that it would be great for most games/users.
One question would be... where would you map the keyboard? In-game mapping would be one option, but perhaps just allowing a "global" keyboard configuration for the console (keyboard W=d-pad-up) would probably work, with possible overrides for running individual games...
However, being online does net you certain rewards. There's a stock market that fluctuates based on other players' actions ingame (crash certain brand of car a lot and the stock drops etc.), there are various real-life websites where you can get small bonuses in game, early access to certain guns and so on, there's an iPhone/Android app where you can customize your cars and teach your dog new tricks and of course there are online leaderboards for missions, tennis, golf and everything else in game. Not mandatory at all, but fun.
October 1st, GTA Online launches, which is the full-on multiplayer, cop-dodging, bank-heisting, guns-blazing online GTA semi-persistent experience. Online (and a Rockstar Games Social Club account) is mandatory for obvious reasons.
Oh great, now you're making me want to try the game out and I never finished any of the other GTA games I have. I found them interesting and enjoyable, but not really my sort of game.
I've always found that the "movie" is essentially your reward for playing the game. Storified games used to mostly be the domain of RPG's. Frankly pure "Final Fantasy" style, JPRG's have gone downhill these days, with story-lined games taking over. Shooter-RPG's are on the rise, and GTA5 in many ways follows this, but also adds a simulation angle etc.
You progress the game, and your reward is the unfolding of a story. In bigger games (such as GTA5), you get not only a main arc but also side-stories that are somewhat optional and various cute side-games that have somewhat less impact on the overall storyline. It's a nice balance, and IMHO good value for your $
I had to stop playing Fallout because it corrupted my autosave one too many times. That is just fucking unacceptable. No GTA title has ever done that to me, although I'm sure it's happened to someone somewhere somewhen.
I have indeed had this problem with a GTA game. GTA Vice City had a save game corrupting error. If you saved the game at Cherry Poppers Ice Cream Company, you would not be able to load the game any more. You would also have lost a lot of time as it's only available a bit into the game. I know it's not the best citation but here's the page at gta.wikia.com. I've had no other problems with the games and enjoy them all, but that corrupted save file pissed me off and really soured me on the Vice City one.
GTA was traditionally not about being real, or living out crime fantasies - more about having fun doing silly things. IV felt like it took itself too seriously sometimes, but hopefully V is back to form.
If we want to get technical GTA was originally about stealing cars, with some elements of gang warfare... And before people think I'm misunderstanding the original game, it was from a top down perspective and was out before the PS2 was a thing.
What a strange way to quantify your fun.
Do you not have sex unless it lasts for 10+ hours?
You can have fun, enjoyable, fulfilling experiences in any number of minutes. Arbitrarily passing a game off as "not worth your time" just because it can be finished in a day (hell maybe even a full long sitting!!!!) is... strange.
How can people not stand behind their words, coward?
I don't follow your comparison. What does sexual congress have to do with playing a video game? I suppose in some strange eclipse of the two, one might find an intersection, but I was not thinking of any of those hypothetical examples.
I'm sure you have a point somewhere in there, but perhaps a more meaningful example would serve it better. Perhaps you are not even responding to me though, as I never used the phrase, "not worth your time" (and doing so would be odd as I can only speak for myself, not yourself).
To come back to what I actually did ask: what is a game like, that only has six hours of content in it?
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GTA's satire is weak sauce compared to other games. Mostly I guess because they didn't want to break something called 'immersion'. Which is broken by their above dedication to a non-hollywood esque environment. It totally does not suit educated and enlightened tastes.
Also, I have played GTA from I think GTA 3, and I have always played it from the perspective of doing the least harm possible. When I first started, I didn't even run red lights, until I learned that the cops won't chase you for that. I still am disappointed when I am in the middle of a mission and I accidentally hit a pedestrian while being chased or even worse is when the story requires you to kill a bystander. Heck, even when they give me a choice about killing a criminal, I choose to let them go. Frankly, I think that most of the assumptions that people make about the GTA series comes from people who haven't actually played it. Just like most any other topic, most people who talk about it are talking out of their rear end.
I have always been the same way. The thing I like about sandbox games is that they are the most immersive for me. I like the feeling of being in the place as a tourist trying to learn my way around, and I find that trying to obey (assumed even if unenforced) rules and respecting the rights and dignity of NPCs is more fun for me than just running around as an unstoppable force of chaos. Gameloft's Gangstar games have a tendency to ask players to engage in wanton destruction and targeting of innocents, and I really do hate when the game forces that upon my character. Then again, I think wrecks in Nascar prolong the race and can disrupt hours of planning mileage/tire wear etc.
You all are nerd cred revoked.
Mmhm.
You've never, in your life, seen or experienced a game that has only 6 hours of content in it?
Ever? No Portal? No NES games? No Tetris? No Poker? No Counter-Strike? No HL2? No Uncharted? Nothing under 6 hours ever?
Wow. Are you here just to shake a stick at people who are having fun where you are not?
6 months. Just have to hold out for 6 months if GTA4's release cycle is anything to go by.
Or one real GOOD hooker!
Again, who said I was not having fun? You sure do love to leap and bound to conclusions. Perhaps you are just using a different definition for six hours of content than I would. Out of that list, I think only Uncharted and HL2 would qualify would they not? I don't know what those types of games are like though, except in theory. I've never owned a large console, nor found point-at-monster-and-click stuff to be very fun. But for instance, I'm sure we clocked in more than six hours of Tetris, Gameboys tethered together back when Gameboy only meant one thing, on a single road trip. How would one even rate Tetris on an "hours of content" scale, since it is an escalating puzzle game?
Hence, I think we are speaking a different language.
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The funny thing is that GTA V is the only franchise where all of the above apply.
GTA simply reeks of black gangsta culture. You'd need to have pretty shit taste to like it.
Holy Thor, Interstate '76... I completely forgot about that.
Remake. Now.
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With GTA V on the 360, the recommendation is to only install the "Install" disc and play using the "Play" disc in the DVD drive, even if it is tempting to install both to the hard drive. The reason for this is the bandwidth required to stream content into the game world and the seek time on the hard drive. With both disc images installed to the same disc, it has to constantly search both these images. With just the "Install" disc installed, the game can load content from the hard drive and the DVD drive simultaneously, giving more effective bandwidth and much less pop-in.
I went one step further and installed the "Install" disc to the hard drive and the "Play" disc to the fastest USB drive I have, so the game can still load from two locations at the same time. That way, the DVD drive isn't roaring constantly and it cuts down on wear and tear of moving parts. There's still the occasional bit of pop-in, but never any geometry, just the rare odd texture here and there.
Eat the rich.
And yet it's the tastiest turd I've ever had.
Have you even played GTA V before you made up your mind? There's a whole lot more to it than "black gangsta culture". Hell, the one black main character even goes out of his way to repeatedly decry his stereotypical gang-banging "friends".
Eat the rich.
I did the same thing, and while I loved SR4 for being a cartoonishly fun superpower romp with plenty of silly humor, I can also say that I'm highly unlikely to replay it again any time soon. There just isn't any real replay value and there's no fun to be had running around the city after the story mode is over.
GTA V on the other hand, is on a whole other level, it's bigger, more ambitious and I can already tell it's got massive replay and exploration value.
Eat the rich.
The white characters are still pretty much "wiggers".
Ah yes, 1994. I can believe my parents let me buy GTA, I was only 9 years old. I guess it looked arcadey and cartoonish enough that they didn't care about the gang warfare and running people over bits.
Eat the rich.
Haha, what?
Of the main characters, one is a former bank robber who's having severe family troubles and battles with anger issues because he's terminally bored since he retired. He has a therapist and their scenes are very reminiscent of Robert de Niro in "Analyse This".
The other is a psychopathic redneck meth king who smuggles weapons across the border and lures people to cannibals in the mountains.
In fact, the only white character who uses "street" slang in the game is played as an immature idiot and ridiculed by the other characters.
Eat the rich.
We get it. You're too cool for the room.
Nobody cares. Clearly millions of people feel its worth the price being asked.
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I went one step further and installed the "Install" disc to the hard drive and the "Play" disc to the fastest USB drive I have, so the game can still load from two locations at the same time. That way, the DVD drive isn't roaring constantly and it cuts down on wear and tear of moving parts. There's still the occasional bit of pop-in, but never any geometry, just the rare odd texture here and there.
Yes, I have also read about this elsewhere. I will install the play disc to a 16GB OCZ Rally2, which is probably not the fastest thing around any more, but which is pretty damned fast. I bought my 360 used and when the optical drive failed I found that it had already been turned up, so I had to replace it. Luckily I know my way around a soldering iron, apparently unlike the prior owner, so I replaced the drive mechanism and kept the original controller board; the standard fix to avoid having to pull the AACS key out of the drive. I'm in no hurry to do that again, so I religiously install before playing so that I only need to read discs once, and at a reasonable speed.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
I take issue with the idea that a game's story can't be as good as a book's. KotOR 2, Deus Ex, Planescape: Torment, these games all had great stories (and the first two were good games, too, though KotOR 2 was buggy and incomplete). The rest of what you said is pretty accurate, though.
I never could quite tell the difference between black, hispanic, and redneck cultures.
Well, that's on you and your ignorance, then.
Eat the rich.
And some of us emeriti subscribe to Playboy for their pictures, as well.
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