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Clinton Grants $1 Million To Edible Insect Farmers

An anonymous reader writes "Former US President Bill Clinton, through the Clinton Global Initiative, has awarded $1 million to a group of Canadian MBA students who are looking to solve urban hunger by feeding people insects. The students will use this as seed money for their start-up, Aspire Food Group, which aims to farm, produce, and sell edible insects as a way of solving world hunger, particularly in slums. Aspire says it will even work toward replacing livestock farms with insect farms in some areas." Insects as food aren't necessarily incompatible with conventional livestock, either.

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  1. Naturally by sjames · · Score: 4, Funny

    The financial bullies are now getting around to making their favorite punching bags eat a bug.

    1. Re:Naturally by GameboyRMH · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Exactly. You can't solve hunger with cheaper food, except perhaps in the case of getting more bang for your buck when making a charitable food donation.

      In a capitalist system it just leads to higher profit margins or lower wages.

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  2. God and Cockroaches by Surak_Prime · · Score: 5, Funny

    Human teeth show every sign of being shaped, at least in part, to consume insects, and we possibly developed long fingers to dig them out of hiding places, too. I'm not religious, but sometimes I can't help but think of a monkey-like God looking down on all of mankind's problems with famine and hunger and yelling, "For My sake, mankind, I gave you the cockroach! An unlimited food source - you can't wipe the little bastards out if you try!"

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    1. Re:God and Cockroaches by guruevi · · Score: 4, Informative

      Even though insects are indeed edible and can be quite good (try them roasted or chocolate covered), TFA talks about using this product as a cheap replacement for animal feed for both livestock and fish farms. Currently livestock is fed reprocessed livestock leftovers which causes several problems. One, it's expensive to reprocess this into a healthy mix two, it's not very efficient. If you do it wrong (which is the case in a lot of 3rd world countries), you could help spread stuff like Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease or FMD among your livestock. Additionally (if you're into that) the current processes are not organic so organic products cannot process their own waste.

      According to the article, the larvae of these insects eat 90% of whatever you give them, once they're fat, you throw them in an oven and they become toasty bits to feed.

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    2. Re:God and Cockroaches by sjames · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Just watch, if cockroach burgers ever get popular, prices will soar and we'll hear all about how hard they are to raise and how they're in short supply.

    3. Re:God and Cockroaches by liquidsin · · Score: 2

      check out black soldier flies. they can be farmed in nifty little bins by pretty much anyone. the larvae will eat damn near anything (plant/animal based food waste and excrement) and leave behind nothing but fertilizer and fat larvae, which make nutritious feed for aquaponic setups or chickens. the adults live only a couple days; they exist only to mate, and do not bite or sting. they are not known to be a vector for any human pathogens, and they generally buzz off to die once they're done mating.

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  3. Because... by roc97007 · · Score: 2

    ...the proles need to eat something...

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  4. Re:Yecch! by roc97007 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Eat bugs? No thanks, I'll stick to birds, fish, and mammals. No escargo or grasshoppers for me, thank you.

    It's possible that you won't have a choice.

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  5. Re:Yecch! by realityimpaired · · Score: 3, Informative

    That's your call to make.

    While I've never eaten grasshopper, spider, or cricket, I do know people who have eaten them and they say that it doesn't taste that significantly different. Apparently, locusts taste like chicken.

    Esgargots are similar to squid, I find... they don't really have much flavour on their own and get most of their flavour from how they're prepared. Fried up in garlic and butter, they're quite tasty.

  6. Insect eating elitist-meme by istartedi · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There's been a lot of this going around lately. From whence came the insect-eating meme? There's a woman I see in a coffee shop sometimes. She's an environmental activist, best known to me for manning the anti-GMO petition campaign in California, which failed. She mentioned eating insects that last time I saw her. I was like, OK... there's a meme going around, since environmental activists often rub shoulders with the same elite circles in which Clinton is involved.

    The $64 trillion question is, "Can anybody trace the origin of the meme?". Yeah, people have been eating insects for thousands of years, and there have probably been much earlier suggestions that Westerners try it. I'm talking about a dramatic recent upswing though. What catalyzed it?

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    1. Re:Insect eating elitist-meme by Nadaka · · Score: 5, Interesting

      There is a long term trend towards sustainable farming practices. Cows take up vastly more land per lb of protein produced. The trend is to try and move primary protein source towards something more efficient, like sheep or chickens. But you don't get much more efficient than insects.

    2. Re:Insect eating elitist-meme by istartedi · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Trying to change cultural taboos in order to use the most efficient protein source isn't a sign of sustainability. It's a sign of desperation. If that doesn't fix the problem, then where do you go? It'd be better to fix the problems that are making them think that way; rather than think that way.

      Hey, googling around insects are the most efficient, with fish, chicken, pigs, and then beef finally being least efficient. How about encouraging Indonesians to take a baby step towards the most efficient source, and trade beef for pork. Do you see why that might be a bit of a problem?

      Aside from that, the truly desperate never needed a study from some institute to become efficient. Rats and bugs get eaten by POWs and refugees all the time. The Bible even records that bird droppings became a coveted source of sustenance during a seige. It almost sounds like they're putting the cart before the horse. "You're going to be living in dire poverty because of what we're doing to you; here's how you can cope with it".

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  7. Hey! by Hatta · · Score: 3, Funny

    Bugs aren't vegan.

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    1. Re:Hey! by RevWaldo · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Is murdering 100 thousand grasshoppers more ethical than one steer? The implications!

      .

    2. Re:Hey! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Clinton loves his Bug Macs.

    3. Re:Hey! by h4rr4r · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yes. The steer is likely able to understand it has a future and feel pain as you do, and much of everything else we expect of mammals. The grasshopper not at all.

      I know you were trying to be funny, but this meat eater thinks you are being quite foolish. There ethical implications to eating meat, the biggest one right now being how terribly those animals are treated.

    4. Re:Hey! by Garridan · · Score: 2
      Especially if you feed them chickens. Weird quote from the article:

      He's turning the larvae loose on some leftover bits of chicken. "The bugs consume this material. Probably 90 percent of the material is consumed, and all that's left is a little bit of bone and sinew and fur."

      Um. Wut. Somebody sold him a strange chicken indeed, if it had fur.

    5. Re:Hey! by X0563511 · · Score: 2

      It's irresponsible to shoot them anywhere near the head. BSE prions only exist in CNS tissues. By shooting them in the head you run a risk of contaminating the rest of the animal.

      Proper slaughter involves using a non-penetrating stunner to daze the animal, at which point you haul it up on it's rear legs and sever the cranial arteries.

      Any other method is either more cruel, or risky.

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  8. How about shrimp? by EzInKy · · Score: 3, Informative

    Shrimp are, after all, arthropods. Some even call them "insects of the seas."

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  9. Re:Yecch! by Nadaka · · Score: 2

    not all that different in concept than eating shrimp, crabs, or crawfish.

    The thing that bothers me the most about it is that insects look like they contain a lot more gut and chitin, and a lot less meaty morsels compared to the other multi-limbed critters we eat regularly.

  10. Re:Yecch! by h4rr4r · · Score: 5, Informative

    I would bet money you have eaten plenty of insects in your life. You may not have noticed, but check out how many insect parts are allowed in various kinds of processed foods one time.

  11. Re:Yecch! by realityimpaired · · Score: 2

    The thing that bothers me the most about it is that insects look like they contain a lot more gut and chitin, and a lot less meaty morsels compared to the other multi-limbed critters we eat regularly.

    They do. That's one of the reasons I've never eaten insects, despite having been in parts of the world where they are a part of the normal diet. And that's also something we don't consider in the western world: spiders are considered a delicacy in Thailand. Anything being discussed here is stuff that's already been proven healthy/safe to eat, just that it's kind of squick for people used to a different diet.

    Larger insects do have more meat, though, and stuff like grasshoppers/locusts are more meaty to begin with. Ultimately, it's about improving protein availability, and we may not have a choice if the population continues to increase. If you're able to eat meat on a regular basis, you're part of the 1% in the world....

  12. Conversion Rates of insects is better. by deviated_prevert · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Compared to cows, pigs and chickens some insects, especially in larva stage can convert plant cellulose and starches into proteins and fats many times more efficiently. This is the real benefit. In some cases this is more efficient than processing the plants for human consumption. Take corn as a feed, it is very inefficient for humans to ingest it but feed it to some insects and they will convert it at a very high rate.

    We are not talking about insects being the equivalent to a Shmoo which reproduces asexually and only consumes air, but it makes sense to add them to agriculture. What I do not like is the premise that it could feed the poor, however they may be on to something with this approach also. During the second world war when the Nazis used slave labour from concentration camps they fed the slave on potato peels and vegetable top waste from the soldiers mess kitchens. When the SS doctors suddenly realized that the slaves that were there to be worked to death were actually getting to be healthier than the soldiers the practice was stopped and the slaves were then put on a deliberate starvation diet.

    Just maybe our opulent fat diet of animal proteins and refined starches will make the rich who can afford it less healthy than the insect eating peons and lower class workers in the city slums.

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    1. Re:Conversion Rates of insects is better. by CastrTroy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I don't even think it matters how cheap it is. It won't stop people from starving in third world countries. Even if the food is free, you still have to get it to the impoverished nation, which can cost quite a bit, especially with inland areas. Sure they could cultivate their own land, farm their own bugs, but they could do that with the crops and livestock we currently have. The reason they don't is because their who system is completely messed up. You could have a farm, but someone could come around and burn all your crops, and kill all your livestock because there is no rule of law. Lack of food isn't really a supply or cost issue to do with the food itself, but more a problem with the way the social and political systems are set up where people are starving.

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  13. Re:Yecch! by rhyder128k · · Score: 2

    Personally, I've no problem with it, particularly if insect derived food were processed. For example, it could be presented in the form of burger. Having said that, I'd probably get used to seeing insect shaped food. Particularly if it were cheap and nutritious and tasty. I'm certainly willing to give it a go. Maybe one day we'll all be telling our grandchildren, to their horror, that we used to eat things that looked recognisably like the leg of an animal.

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  14. HEADLINE by noh8rz10 · · Score: 5, Funny

    ftfh:

    Clinton Grants $1 Million To Edible Insect Farmers

    why would anybody want to eat insect farmers?

    1. Re:HEADLINE by Obfuscant · · Score: 2
      I want to know how many edible insect farmers we're getting for the million dollars. If the final cost per pound is higher than for a cow steak, why bother?

      I guess this does help with AGW, doesn't it? Lower carbon footprint for the dominant species on the planet. But why limit it to insect farmers? Why not eat politicians (once they've been suitably marinated in a politician tenderizer and maybe cubed)? Lawyers. Yes. Lawyers, but they'd have to be ground to be digestible.

      We can all be true humanitarians, at last.

    2. Re:HEADLINE by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 4, Funny

      why would anybody want to eat insect farmers?

      I've heard they're delicious with fava beans and a nice chianti.

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  15. Re:Yecch! by Adriax · · Score: 3, Informative

    http://xkcd.com/1268/
    They can keep the water bugs, I'll stick to steak.

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  16. Re:Marie Antoinette by h4rr4r · · Score: 2

    Why?
    Because you think she said something about cake?

    She said let them eat brioche, which in that situation made sense. French law at the time set the price for normal bread and to prevent bakers from not selling it they were required to sell brioche for that price if they ran out of normal bread.

  17. Re:70% ground grain 30% ground insect flour by compro01 · · Score: 2

    The current defect levels handbook doesn't appear to say anything about mass. It says a maximum average of "74 insect fragments per 50 grams" for wheat flour.

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  18. Wanna solve world hunger? by fustakrakich · · Score: 2

    Stop throwing away so much food. Last numbers I saw was 40% is tossed out. All the scarcity is man made. People are being starved to keep the prices up.

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  19. Re:Yecch! by jeffmflanagan · · Score: 2

    Insects taste like chicken, insect farmers taste like pork, so it's really a matter of personal preference.

  20. Re:Yecch! by Pope · · Score: 2

    Delicacy = something rare and gross for the tourists to eat and make fun of behind their backs.

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  21. Re:but don't expect them to do as they say... by Valdrax · · Score: 3, Insightful

    No, the market says you'll eat bugs when demand for meat outstrips supply.

    (Welcome to macroeconomics, you must be new here!)

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  22. Re:Yecch! by Blaskowicz · · Score: 2, Funny

    Real vegans have health problems anyway, including being very irritable.
    I think I'm pescatarian, plus poultry. And cheese. And well, I very rarely get fish as I'm under the impression it's overfished.

  23. Re:Yecch! by roc97007 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The general tendency, somewhat magnified recently, of government to tell us that for our own good (obesity, for the good of the planet, whatever is the issue of the day) we must modify our behavior, when our leaders have no intention of following suit. [1] The thought process appears to be, we should ride bicycles so there's plenty of gas for our leaders' armored SUVs. We should eat grasshoppers so there's plenty of steak for our leaders. And we should all reduce our energy consumption so our leaders can splurge.

    Mind you, I've not had meat (except for fish) since the 1970's, my home is partially solar powered (with more to come as I can afford it) and my transportation gets substantially better gas mileage than a Prius. These efforts are worth while. What supremely annoys me is our fearless leaders telling us to cut back when they themselves have no such intention of doing so, except for the occasional photo op.

    [1] Yes, Bill Clinton is the exception, being mostly vegan. (He admits to occasionally eating eggs and fish.) In his case, I think it was the triple bypass that decided him, rather than any particular concern about the planet, but he still deserves credit for the decision.

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  24. Re:but don't expect them to do as they say... by twotacocombo · · Score: 2

    Doubtful. I'd go vegetarian before I ever considered eating insects, and I'm sure many others would as well. Some things are just so culturally repellant that they won't be accepted as an alternative except in extreme cases.

  25. Re:but don't expect them to do as they say... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You're just begging for an oblig, aren't you? ;)

  26. Re:Yecch! by Hognoxious · · Score: 2

    Not even to snakes or mushrooms

    I draw the line at badgers

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