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Health Exchange Sites Crushed By Demand; Shutdown Blanks Other Gov't Sites
An anonymous reader writes "The launch of a national health exchange site was marred by overloaded servers in several states around the country. In a White House press conference, President Obama said that by 7 a.m., there were over a million users, and he likened the capacity problems to the glitches that Apple experienced after discovering bugs in their rlease of iOS 7. 'I don't remember anybody suggesting Apple should stop selling iPhones or iPads, or threatening to shut down company if they didn't,' the president argued."
Meanwhile, a number government websites went blank as a result of the shutdown, instead of simply lying dormant until personnel could return. The National Science Foundation, NASA, the FCC, and the Library of Congress are a few examples.
Wht are you tlking about? Vowls are for chumps.
Monstar L
As someone who enrolled today, I beg to differ....
Actually, they may have powered down many servers. For example, nsf.gov, fastlane.nsf.gov, and research.gov all point to the same host and serve the same generic page. Additionally, since the notice pages are static, then it is entirely possible, maybe probable, that the database servers for the Library of Congress, the FCC, the NASA sites may all have been shut down.
So you stole cable TV all your life but the people working for the government are the parasites? Interesting interpretation.
'I don't remember anybody suggesting Apple should stop selling iPhones or iPads, or threatening to shut down company if they didn't,' the president argued."
And Apple can't put us in jail for not buying their product. Although I'm sure they'd like to.
The IRS is still collecting taxes, but has suspended audits and answering questions, among other things. They might consider the website essential to the tax collection thing.
Love it, taxation without representation. Your tax dollars on furlough.
Science advances one funeral at a time- Max Planck
So the Government can send a few billion on a server farm in Utah for the NSA, but heaven help they send money on servers to handle 3 million people trying to log in at once.
I am going to give the benefit of the doubt that there are smart people who set this up and even they could not anticipate the initial load factor. So the republicans tried everything in their power to make people afraid of the ACA and the result was overloaded systems. Perhaps that says something about the population as a whole. IT is easy to pull something down when you think you're not effected, but when you need it,real bad, then it becomes the most important thing to have.
Anyway, the DBAs and Admins will figure this all out, the process will continue and within a week this will fade as the debt limit looms next.
Life is a great ride, the vehicle doesn't matter
The NSA, CIA, and the .mil adresses are all up.
I actually find it pretty educational to see what our government conciders "essential" and what is not.
Nah, our representation is still getting paid too, alas.
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The government is actually spending MORE money to close these resources than it is keeping them open.
An example is the closure of the memorials in DC. Normally there might be one parks officer roaming around them, but under the closure, there are dozens of park police manning the barricades to ensure nobody can go see them.
It's all political theater. The Administration (and don't get me wrong, I don't give a shit of an R or D is in the white house - they both would do the same thing) is doing today exactly what it did with the sequester - it's punishing the American people as much as it can.
Most of the sequester cuts were planned in a way to have the greatest negative effect on people, and these closures are being executed in the same way. Government is not happy that it has lost it's money source, and it figures the only way to get it back is to go around kicking people in the face to get them to scream at the people who control the purse strings.
It's despicable. Instead of doing their jobs and negotiating the best possible compromise between all interested parties, they've become a bunch of extremists (on both sides) who refuse to negotiate. It's "my way or the highway."
Obama in particular ought to be ashamed of himself. He campaigned on a platform of unity and leadership, and he has exemplified NONE of it. In fact he's the biggest one going on national TV proclaiming with pride that he refuses to negotiate.
Fire them all. Seriously. Every last despicable goddamn one of them.
At least the DEA website is up, letting us know they are still operating. Gotta get those pot smokers.
http://www.justice.gov/dea/index.shtml
Meanwhile the USDA is down, but don't worry, there's no problem with our food supply.
http://www.usda.gov/
Makes sense to me. Going after the druggies is far more essential than the food we eat.
Incomprehensible.
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Shutting down websites is mostly political grandstanding. What does it cost to leave a website up, let it run on autopilot for a while, and not update any content? Just bandwidth and electricity. The new healthcare sites got over 1 million hits, but most of the time, most sites are nowhere near that busy. Probably cost more to have their website administrators change the sites to throw up a "sorry, we're closed" page. Saves a little on bandwidth. Doesn't save much on electricity.
When Wikipedia and other majors sites went dark for 1 day, they didn't give us any bull about why. They said it was all about SOPA and PIPA, and they meant exactly what they said.
Intellectual Property is a monopolistic, selfish, and defective concept. It is "tyranny over the mind of man"
Excellet news! Maybe they'll finally take out all the trash inside Capitol Hill.
Because the greedy rich assholes make it impossible for an honest normal person to even run for office.
Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
No, the current proposal from the GOP is to strip out funding for the ACA and replace it with "..." - they don't have alternate suggestions. That's the problem. Also, the Senate has been asking the House to have a joint budget conference since last May, but the House only thought that was a good idea on September 30th.
Occasionally living proof of the Ballmer peak.
And if it gets compromised? And there aren't any sysadmins watching the logs and updating the software? And you don't know how long they're going to be gone? How many people do you think could be compromised by an unpatched 0-day up on a government "trusted" website for 21 days?
Watch for Penguins, they eat Apples and throw rocks at Windows.
They shouldn't run anything.
I get your point here - "anything" is a bit extreme, but...
Like the highway sysetm
You mean the one that each state runs, for which they may receive funding from the feds?
the military
"...every State shall always keep up a well-regulated and disciplined militia..."
But this is too big a can of worms to get into with many legitimate views on the cost, scale, organization, etc.
and the police force?
When did this become a federal organization?
Or the super efficient health systems in every other developed country?
Like which ones? Canada maybe, with their entire population being only ~34.8 million, compared to 38 million in California alone, or 313.9 million in the US?
My vote is state run, with some federal laws to back it up, and that correlates well to your example, AFAICT.
What was your point again?
It is written into law which parts of government stay open and which close.
It also turns out to be a Federal crime to undertake unfunded actions during the shutdown. These would put the employee in violation of the Antidefiniency Act of 1870:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101078243?__source=xfinity|mod&par=xfinity
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so thats what, attempt number 512094 by the republicans to refight the same fight they've already lost?
at what point do the republicans admit that in a democracy you sometimes have to accept defeat, accept that the opposition has won, and move on?
what hte republicans are doing is NOT democracy, it is extortion.
they have co-opted the democratic process, using the Hastert Rule to prevent the true majority in the house from having any say, so that a minority of the ruling party can dictate the agenda, creating a flase middle ground, in order to hold the country, its economy, indead hte worlds economy, hostage over a ideological battle that they cannot win and have already lost 50 seperate times.
they have put the gun to all our heads, and are threatening to pull the trigger and blow us all to hell unless they get what they want.
they are acting like spoiled children who have no inlking of what living in a democracy entails, who refuse to accept that they can be on the losing side.
they have created their red line, and unlike the other recent one, they refuse to back down even though they will not only destroy themselves, but take everyone else down with them. and if they do this, it is the end of the republican party for the next 50 years or more; no one will touch them with a 10ft, indeed, 1000km pole.
The guy who said the election was rigged won the presidency with the second-most votes.
That is the current proposal from the GOP. The Senate and president are REFUSING to even talk to them about it.
THE DISCUSSION IS OVER. The senate and president don't *need* to talk to the crazies because IT IS ALREADY A LAW. You've already had this debate.
Or is this up for debate every year? Every time an already existing and passed law needs funding, but some disagree with it, the whole country can be held to ransom by those who disagree?
You people make me sick. You ignore your own system, you are destroying your own government for fringe interests.
Considering the fact that I was never paid for the pole in my front yard or their adding of wires to it. I tend to see it in a rather bleak light. They have too many rights already. I do not subscribe, nor do I steal it, but I can see where the poster is coming from. They did reduce transmitter power to let cable work better, they do have rights of way they should not, and they both charge for the service and show commercials.
They might have a right to protect their assets, but those assets are ill gotten gains.
You say do the research? I have.
Your daily caller article is pure BS.
It's a myth, frequently and easily debunked.
No one sneaks into the US from canada to get treatment.
Very few come to the US for treatment.
And no one is dying for lack of treatment in Canada. Its very improtant to note just what elective treatment is, and what treatments we're talkijng about specifically.
the procedures your article is lying about arent lifesaving, arent emergency. that's what "elective" means! the statistics they always use are for treatmetns for senios citizens like hip replacements, being a popular statistic.
thing is....who pays for old people in this country? Medicaire.
And what is Medicaire? A centralized single payer system....just like Canada's... that also happens to be the most efficient and cost effective sector of our health care system.
http://theincidentaleconomist.com/wordpress/in-defense-of-canada/
They pay similar taxes.
They earn similar pay.
Their healthcare is more effective, more widely available, and cheaper too.
Oh, and they have a fairly balanced budget.
In short: Hey thanks for the story from your biased and full of crap article that was spoon fed you and you bought hook line and sinker without having to do all that crazy research stuff. So ya, it is all BS, Canada is a nice country, they aren't trained sheep, and their healthcare IS tons better than ours.
The guy who said the election was rigged won the presidency with the second-most votes.
Yeah, except gerrymandering is the real reason why the GOP held the house. Dems actually got more votes nationwide for Congress in 2012. Even so, the Dems still held the Senate, and gained eight seats in the House... hardly a "resounding mandate" for the GOP's crusade against Obamacare.
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The premise here is a false premise. Congress changes laws all the time. The Office of the President proposes changing laws all the time.
Yes, and they vote.
and then they abide by the votes.
however they dont dont keep revoting 50 times trying to get the result they want.
When the Executive branch stops refusing to enforce laws they don't agree with: Immigration laws, Marriage law, even this law itself, which the Executive branch has either delayed or ignored when politically convenient for them, then you can advance this argument.
if a law's validity is in question it is completely within the enforcer's power to withhold enforcement in the face of an impending reversal, as happened with DOMA. besides which, there was nothing to stop enforcing there.
and also, he never stopped enforcing immigration, in fact, more people were deported under obama's first 4 years than in the previous 12.
As for funding. Constitutionally it is the job of Congress, specifically the House, to hold the purse strings. It is their job to refuse to fund endeavors which in their opinion the U.S. government should not be paying for. It has been used in the past to refuse to fund wars, programs and ill considered legislation passed by previous Congresses. It is the reason that many of these House members were elected.
Again: they've tried to repeal it 50 times already
They've lost each time.
And now in denial of their losing side status, they've shutdown the government in a temper tantrum demanding to be given their way.
SO. THE DISCUSSION IS NOT OVER. Not if the Senate and the President want to fund the government and raise the debt ceiling. If they want those things to happen they better start talking, because they most certainly do *need* to.
It is over. Voting once or twice to try and change minds is one thing.
Voting FIFTS TIMES AND LOSING EACH TIME is something else.
The discussion is over. They lost. Obamacare is here to stay. Get over it.
We did not have this debate. When we tried members of Congress, specifically democrats, stopped talking to people, because they were being told in no uncertain terms this was unwanted. We did not have this debate because the law that was passed was not argued in detail in either house of Congress prior to it being voted on.
We did have this debate.
We had it for over a year before Obamacare was passed.
We've had it each and every time they've tried to repeal it.
We've gone over the bill in detail. Word by word, clause by clause.
For some reason Republicans havent stopped having this debate, even though they have lost the debate each and every time, FIFTY TIMES SO FAR . The debate is over.
Only republicans live in a fantasy world where there was "no debate" and the bill is this "giant mystery that no one understands". Those are lies, repeated by republicans over and over. But they are lies.
We HAVE had this debate, and Republicans KEEP LOSING IT.
We HAVE discussed the bill, in detail. But apparently Republicans keep forgetting whats those details are.
Republicans are living in denial of reality.
You dont have a clue what you're talking about.
You're full of crap.
The guy who said the election was rigged won the presidency with the second-most votes.