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Health Exchange Sites Crushed By Demand; Shutdown Blanks Other Gov't Sites
An anonymous reader writes "The launch of a national health exchange site was marred by overloaded servers in several states around the country. In a White House press conference, President Obama said that by 7 a.m., there were over a million users, and he likened the capacity problems to the glitches that Apple experienced after discovering bugs in their rlease of iOS 7. 'I don't remember anybody suggesting Apple should stop selling iPhones or iPads, or threatening to shut down company if they didn't,' the president argued."
Meanwhile, a number government websites went blank as a result of the shutdown, instead of simply lying dormant until personnel could return. The National Science Foundation, NASA, the FCC, and the Library of Congress are a few examples.
Wht are you tlking about? Vowls are for chumps.
Monstar L
Huh, funny that, the IRS seems fully up and running their site during the 'shutdown'.
Maybe they should help Nasa out with theirs
Fewer government mandated healthcare sites means more porn sites for natural sexual healing!
As someone who enrolled today, I beg to differ....
I have a simple litmus test for a person's belief system. I ask the following question:
"Does your system require that people suffer, not because they would have anyway, but because of the rules of the system?"
It obviously immediately eliminates American Capitalism and Soviet Communism as thoroughly immoral - though I can hear the ideologues right now prepare themselves to explain why some suffering MUST happen (although conveniently it won't much suffering for them, only for someone else in the system) - but it can also be applied to features of subsystems.
In this case, the NSA is immoral on several counts - one of which, as you rightly point out, is that merely because of this mindless obsession with data-gathering, resources must be taken away from other facilities which benefit people.
Seriously, simple typos and grammar mistakes get through now?
Obviously, Slashdot is also affected by the US government shutdown . . . I didn't know the government runs it . . .
Schroedinger's Brexit: The UK is both in and out of the EU at the same time!
Things Americans do care about: sucking the entitlement teat.
And they won't stop until they get their hands on our Social Security and Medicare. Communists every last one of them,
Time is what keeps everything from happening all at once.
What not of people realise is, at the moment, there is some tenuous control over Gov't shut-downs. The time is coming where the shut down is brought on by external factors, like being broke and incompetent, and is therefore not a choice!
Actually, they may have powered down many servers. For example, nsf.gov, fastlane.nsf.gov, and research.gov all point to the same host and serve the same generic page. Additionally, since the notice pages are static, then it is entirely possible, maybe probable, that the database servers for the Library of Congress, the FCC, the NASA sites may all have been shut down.
Just have to ask. Federal site or State site? Washington State seemed to be working well earlier today, but it is a state site.
The Federal Government shouldn't RUN anything! They couldn't even make money selling whores and alcohol when they took over the Mustang Ranch, so, naturally they will fuck this up too.
Maybe they should hire Rockstar. Once they get the GTA V rollout under control they will be experts at running a large popular site that gets swamped beyond their designs. Just as AOL, Blizzard, etc have in the past.
Donald Trump, on a crusade to make Nixon look respectable
So you stole cable TV all your life but the people working for the government are the parasites? Interesting interpretation.
'I don't remember anybody suggesting Apple should stop selling iPhones or iPads, or threatening to shut down company if they didn't,' the president argued."
And Apple can't put us in jail for not buying their product. Although I'm sure they'd like to.
"The Market" doesn't react to anything these days unless Federal Reserve and the big banks want it to react. It is all a HFT playground where bots controlled by big banks and the Fed run the market. Any actual "normal" investor cannot actually use it for investing - it is a glorified rigged casino. If you know how it works, it is possible to still extract money out of it but you have to understand the rules (one of them being that it is no longer in any way rational, or reacting to real world things)
Oh yeah because extreme load on a new website never manifests as error messages
Which is more likely, your unsubstantiated shit or the website / IT system not able to create like a quarter million user accounts in one hour? I assume there's that kind of burst load or even worse - what do the worst 10 minutes look like?
It's obviously hard to bring up a completely new service which experiences that kind of load on day 1 hour 1, just give them time to tune their system, add more servers, tune or upgrade their mainframes if they're using that. People are sweaty busy scrambling to fix the situation.
What's funny is the american sense of entitlement to have some web or gizmo shit work instantly no matter what, whether they pay for it or not, and then they'll all butthurt because of very meeble welfare (food stamps are very low) or because of a new system that helps the working class buy overpriced and weak healthcare.
And it's pretty stupid to disable all these websites. They only would have saved money if they had actually powered down the machines, which they obviously didn't do. So, it was just pointless politicking.
Showing a static html "This site is closed blah blah blah" is congruent with powering down the machines, a PC in a basement can serve that. Importantly the IT staff isn't paid and is out of work.
If I don't like Apple's bugs or capacity problems, I have the option to never pay for another Apple product. I don't have the option to opt out of ObamaCare.
It was a glitch because it affects the peons. Besides if Apple had all the problems this system did they would of been crucified in the newspapers and everywhere else.
Agreed. Remember the Apple maps problems.
Also, I don't get why they just didn't phase this in slowly. Why not just have everyone with a name that begins with 'A' get on today, 'B' tomorrow, etc. Or use the last 2 digits of your SSN for it. I bet even if it wasn't strictly enforced and they just asked nicely it probably would have worked out better than it did.
So the Government can send a few billion on a server farm in Utah for the NSA, but heaven help they send money on servers to handle 3 million people trying to log in at once.
I am going to give the benefit of the doubt that there are smart people who set this up and even they could not anticipate the initial load factor. So the republicans tried everything in their power to make people afraid of the ACA and the result was overloaded systems. Perhaps that says something about the population as a whole. IT is easy to pull something down when you think you're not effected, but when you need it,real bad, then it becomes the most important thing to have.
Anyway, the DBAs and Admins will figure this all out, the process will continue and within a week this will fade as the debt limit looms next.
Life is a great ride, the vehicle doesn't matter
Good lord, on the one hand GP should be modded "+1 Troll" if it was available, but on the other hand, I feel it's my obligation to just say, "don't feed the trolls".
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The government is actually spending MORE money to close these resources than it is keeping them open.
An example is the closure of the memorials in DC. Normally there might be one parks officer roaming around them, but under the closure, there are dozens of park police manning the barricades to ensure nobody can go see them.
It's all political theater. The Administration (and don't get me wrong, I don't give a shit of an R or D is in the white house - they both would do the same thing) is doing today exactly what it did with the sequester - it's punishing the American people as much as it can.
Most of the sequester cuts were planned in a way to have the greatest negative effect on people, and these closures are being executed in the same way. Government is not happy that it has lost it's money source, and it figures the only way to get it back is to go around kicking people in the face to get them to scream at the people who control the purse strings.
It's despicable. Instead of doing their jobs and negotiating the best possible compromise between all interested parties, they've become a bunch of extremists (on both sides) who refuse to negotiate. It's "my way or the highway."
Obama in particular ought to be ashamed of himself. He campaigned on a platform of unity and leadership, and he has exemplified NONE of it. In fact he's the biggest one going on national TV proclaiming with pride that he refuses to negotiate.
Fire them all. Seriously. Every last despicable goddamn one of them.
At least the DEA website is up, letting us know they are still operating. Gotta get those pot smokers.
http://www.justice.gov/dea/index.shtml
Meanwhile the USDA is down, but don't worry, there's no problem with our food supply.
http://www.usda.gov/
Makes sense to me. Going after the druggies is far more essential than the food we eat.
Incomprehensible.
BlameBillCosby.com
the gubberment!!!!...Wow
My ism, it's full of beliefs.
I have to wonder how much of the crush was due to the Randians, the Baggers, and Koch Whores trying to overwhelm the site and flood it with bogus accounts. Given the depth of their hatred of the working poor, it would not surpise in the least.
Well over a million users and their site couldn't handle it? Mr President, call up Yahoo or Go-daddy... they could have your site up and running in a few minutes.
Always done half assed by a contractor that barely has the skills to do the job. Honestly, who was the consultant because they were no talent n00bs in gauging the amount of traffic these sites would expect. Even if it is only an initial spike in traffic they could have EASILY paid for temporary increased infrastructure from places like rackspace to handle the first 3 months easily.
Plus the number of outright failures and nasty bugs being reported makes me even wonder if they tested the sites.
Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
Because the greedy rich assholes make it impossible for an honest normal person to even run for office.
Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
If they're contracted out and they can't pay the contractors, then it's not a stunt.
Occasionally living proof of the Ballmer peak.
The motivations are completely different.
The Reps are trying to delay it so that they can put through more bills to over turn it and other things to get rid of it.
But what they don't realize that if they did get their wish, that would give time to get more of the kinks out of Obama Care - make it better.
The trouble is that the Reps haven't figured out they lost this battle and they keep coming back and making themselves look like retarded asses.
When you have a Fox News pundit (O'Reilly) accuse the Republicans of being over the top in regards to Obama Care, I think they should give up and fight some other battles.
But now, that won't happen.
You're a victim of partisan nonsense that by the admission of those at its core is flawwed. Thanks for being a zombie.
You're are so right! It is Partisian non-sense - one the Republican's part - period. This is one of the very few times when it IS one party causing the problems - the Republicans. The debt ceiling is supposed to be a routine pass so that the government can pay its bills. Now because of the Republicans, it's this bullshit.
Remember the Apple maps problems.
Pepperidge Farm Remembers And they're still having issues...like last week.
This happens every time there is a major video game release. The login/download servers can't handle everyone all logging on day 1 and so it takes you 8 hours to download the game and create your account...
They shouldn't run anything.
I get your point here - "anything" is a bit extreme, but...
Like the highway sysetm
You mean the one that each state runs, for which they may receive funding from the feds?
the military
"...every State shall always keep up a well-regulated and disciplined militia..."
But this is too big a can of worms to get into with many legitimate views on the cost, scale, organization, etc.
and the police force?
When did this become a federal organization?
Or the super efficient health systems in every other developed country?
Like which ones? Canada maybe, with their entire population being only ~34.8 million, compared to 38 million in California alone, or 313.9 million in the US?
My vote is state run, with some federal laws to back it up, and that correlates well to your example, AFAICT.
What was your point again?
Sysadmins are seen more like janitors by most management than police. You're not protecting it, you're cleaning it up. They'll pay more people to guard it and keep people out than they would have to keep it open and cleaned if it means that they can follow the letter of the law instead of the spirit.
Watch for Penguins, they eat Apples and throw rocks at Windows.
Are you sure it wasn't the government buying them up to donate them to certain Slavic-speaking countries?
Both the democrats and the republicans, I think. Or did anyone from the Pirate party, the Greens, the Tea party or anything ever stand a chance? The indirect voting system ensures that only the bought parties matter.
Nae king! Nae laird! Nae yurrupiean pressedent! We willna be fooled again!
Democrats love it even more. They have a complicit media pointing all the fingers at Republicans, and every liberal and democrat cranking out bulletin board posts using the R word with no mention of the D word to be found. If an alien were to visit from outer space, they would be led to think that there are only Republicans in government.
But yeah, those crazy tea party 'muricans wanting to run their own lives with only essential gubment involvement...bunch of extremists and anarchists they are.
But is *IS* the Tea Party's fault! The bill has been passed, it is now *law*. The Republicans *lost* the debate, the correct procedures were followed and the bill has become law. And *now* they're still trying to fight it using blackmail tactics over funding.
Considering the fact that I was never paid for the pole in my front yard or their adding of wires to it. I tend to see it in a rather bleak light. They have too many rights already. I do not subscribe, nor do I steal it, but I can see where the poster is coming from. They did reduce transmitter power to let cable work better, they do have rights of way they should not, and they both charge for the service and show commercials.
They might have a right to protect their assets, but those assets are ill gotten gains.
And Apple can't put us in jail
You don't go to jail, you are levied a fine.
for not buying their product.
The product doesn't come from the government, it comes from a health insurance company. It isn't the government's product.
Although I'm sure they'd like to.
The jailed environment of iOS isn't sufficient?
Damn_registrars has no butt-hole. Damn_registrars has no use for a butt-hole.
I'm personally surprised, living in a country which does have relatively high taxes and an extensive social welfare and universal healthcare system, that you people are so gullible as to somehow believe that welfare systems are inherently not in your best interests and a violation of your rights and somehow designed to make it so unemployed "bludgers" can get shinier things than you.
Honestly, how do you people believe that crap?
For a site about things like basic rights, Slashdot users sure do like to censor "dissent".