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NC School District Recalls Its Amplify Tablets After 10% Break In Under a Month

Nate the greatest writes "Guilford County Schools' headline grabbing tablet program is back in the news again. The program came to an abrupt end last Friday when the school district announced that they were recalling all of the Amplify tablets. GCS had leased over 15 thousand of the tablets (at a cost of $200 a year) for its middle school students, but decided to recall the tablets just one month into the school year after some 1500 students reported a broken screen. Around two thousand complained of improperly fitting cases, and there were also 175 reports of malfunctioning power supplies. There's currently no explanation for the cases or power supplies, but GCS has stated that the tablets broke because they lacked a layer of Gorilla Glass. This was listed in the contract, but the school district did not confirm the condition of the tablets before accepting them. This program was the poster child for News Corp.'s entry into the educational market. It was the single largest program to use the Amplify tablet, and its failure represents a serious setback. The Amplify tablet now has a record for poor construction quality and a breakage rate that is 12 times higher than what Squaretrade reported in early 2012 for the iPad 2."

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  1. Obvious Solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Don't give them tablets.

    1. Re:Obvious Solution by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 5, Funny

      Or give them stone tablets. Upper body strength and moral instruction in one inexpensive package.

    2. Re:Obvious Solution by ackthpt · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Don't give them tablets.

      Tell me about it. Some of these smartphone screens break at nearly the drop of a hat. Anything you're going to give to kids should be nearly indestructible, perfect testing for anything which could in the future be called Mil Spec.

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    3. Re:Obvious Solution by Lumpy · · Score: 2

      Oh dear god, listen to the whiners when you even suggest a 17" laptop... OMG the whining becomes immense. Bunch of frail little old men.

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    4. Re:Obvious Solution by RoverDaddy · · Score: 3, Informative

      That's quite a generality. I've been to my daughter's high school and the teachers there don't appear to be lazy in the least, AND they seem to be leveraging technology in sensible ways. For example, the way my daughter can log in to a school web site and see every day's lessons and homework assignments.

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    5. Re:Obvious Solution by khellendros1984 · · Score: 4, Funny

      That's an unfair stereotype. Every time I North Carolina they always I'm kidding.

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    6. Re:Obvious Solution by cusco · · Score: 2

      Congratulations NewsCorp! Your tablets are actually higher quality and less defective than your news product.

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    7. Re:Obvious Solution by un1nsp1red · · Score: 2

      Yes, the teachers are lazy because "they don't want to tell the brats - whose asshole parents have raised asshole kids - to shut the hell up." Not to mention there's a pretty good chance the teachers didn't ask for the tablets -- these things are pretty rarely bottom-up endeavors. Oh, and, btw, my paper books when I was in school were decades old. Two years is bleeding-edge in the world of printed textbooks. You don't honestly think paper textbooks are updated annually, do you?

    8. Re:Obvious Solution by Greyfox · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Or at least the drop of a smartphone. Which is odd because pretty much everyone I know but me has cracks in their smartphone screens. I drop mine a couple times a week AND take it skydiving and it remains unbroken. So how the hell are people managing to break their smartphone screens so often?

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    9. Re:Obvious Solution by Darinbob · · Score: 2

      So, a book then. Sure it can be ruined but the breakage rate is so low in comparison. Even dropping on in a rain puddle leaves it in an ugly but usable state. But that approach won't make tech corporations rich, and it doesn't quiet down the parents who keep shouting "try something new and untested!"

    10. Re:Obvious Solution by gmhowell · · Score: 3, Funny

      Or give them stone tablets. Upper body strength and moral instruction in one inexpensive package.

      As I recall, that's what God gave Moses... And we all know how that turned out!!!

      According to a documentary I saw, it caused him to drop and break one of the three tablets.

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    11. Re:Obvious Solution by dead_user · · Score: 2

      Hahaha!! My middle school math books were so old they had more than one checkout sticker filled out. You only checked them out once a year. Then again, 2/4=.5 has been true for quite a long time, and I doubt it really needs to be updated that often.

  2. And this is what you get when you by themushroom · · Score: 4, Insightful

    go with the lowest bidder. If you're going to make notebooks for school, make them so they can withstand those things found in schools -- students.

    1. Re:And this is what you get when you by ackthpt · · Score: 3, Insightful

      go with the lowest bidder. If you're going to make notebooks for school, make them so they can withstand those things found in schools -- students.

      200$ x 3 years doesn't smell a bit like a low bid. I'd go with something clam-shell, to be honest and you can drop from 20 feet and it still works without a cracked screen. Also needs to be waterproof, because kids will be carrying it about in backpacks which are 100% not waterproof.

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    2. Re:And this is what you get when you by girlintraining · · Score: 5, Interesting

      go with the lowest bidder. If you're going to make notebooks for school, make them so they can withstand those things found in schools -- students.

      Umm, these are tablets not notebooks. From my experience with my little sister, teenagers do not treat their electronics very well -- Gorilla glass wouldn't help much. All the glass does is keep the display from being scratched. It won't help if you drop the device, or if it is subjected to tortion stress (twisted). Both of these will deform the case, and in turn the LCD. It doesn't take much to destroy an LCD. Sitting on it. Dropping it onto a hardwood or concrete floor. The list goes on. And teenagers don't just kill the devices through these simple physical forces...

      My sister routinely drags her iPad into the bathroom to listen to music while she takes a shower. I die a little inside thinking of all that humidity corroding the insides. And I can't tell you how many times she's yanked the power adapter out by the cord, or grabbed it, and forgetting it was still plugged in, tore the adapter right out of the wall socket. Without inspecting one of these Amplify tablets, I don't know if this is the case, but with ipads the connector has a spring to hold it in place -- which means the cord and the connector in the device gets bent and mangled after doing this a few times. I've replaced the power adapter for her about 5 times now. She hasn't even had it two years. Her current one is held together with electrical tape and numerous warnings that this will be the last one. She still comes to me every few weeks after it shorts out and dies from the latest careless act.

      But god help you if you tell slashdot this. It's a hanging offense to state the obvious around here... :/

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    3. Re:And this is what you get when you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Why are you supporting your sister in her bad habits?

    4. Re:And this is what you get when you by girlintraining · · Score: 2

      Why are you supporting your sister in her bad habits?

      Ever lived with a teenager? You pick and choose your battles carefully.

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    5. Re:And this is what you get when you by lgw · · Score: 2

      My sister routinely drags her iPad into the bathroom to listen to music while she takes a shower. I die a little inside thinking of all that humidity corroding the insides. And I can't tell you how many times she's yanked the power adapter out by the cord, or grabbed it, and forgetting it was still plugged in, tore the adapter right out of the wall socket. Without inspecting one of these Amplify tablets, I don't know if this is the case, but with ipads the connector has a spring to hold it in place -- which means the cord and the connector in the device gets bent and mangled after doing this a few times. I've replaced the power adapter for her about 5 times now. She hasn't even had it two years

      These are all normal use cases for consumer electronics. There's no reason (other than shoddy device manufacturing) that any of that should cause damage. A clock radio would be fine with that sort of handling, and it's reasonable to expect a tablet would be too. The fact that most tablets are so easily damaged by ordinary handling tells us it's not a mature device yet.

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    6. Re:And this is what you get when you by UnknowingFool · · Score: 2

      All the glass does is keep the display from being scratched. It won't help if you drop the device, or if it is subjected to tortion stress (twisted).

      Gorilla glass has higher scratch resistance and toughness (at comparable thickness) than regular glass. It is not indestructible but it will not shatter at the low forces that glass will. But given enough force, yes it will break. Now you can increase the thickness of both Gorilla glass and regular to make it tougher however increasing the thickness is not a good solution for electronic devices.

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    7. Re:And this is what you get when you by khellendros1984 · · Score: 2

      I don't think I've ever seen a magnetic connector on an Xbox control. None of my original or 360 controls use magnets, at least. I am aware of certain Apple laptops with magnetically-attached power cables, though. I guess it wouldn't surprise me if there were separate patents for magnetic attachment of data cables versus magnetic attachment of power cables, though.

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    8. Re:And this is what you get when you by krotkruton · · Score: 2

      Just saying, but height is only one factor in what will break a device - rotation and impact angles play a large role in whether or not that force is distributed in a way that cracks the screen. You can drop a device from 3' up and crack the screen and then drop the same device from 12' up without doing any damage.

      Just sayin, because people tend to use the "Well mine dropped from this height and so " as if that's a good barometer for ruggedness. Forgetting about that being anecdotal evidence, it's really not evidence at all since it's only one variable in a larger equation.

      But yeah, I'm with you that if a school wants to provide something like this to students, they better make sure the device is pretty strong. Especially because you know people (kids especially) generally don't take care of free things as well as things they had to pay for.

    9. Re:And this is what you get when you by rtb61 · · Score: 2

      That is the advantage of the notebook over the tablet, you can armour up the clam shell. In fact in a school environment it makes sense to create a specific up armoured shock absorbing clam shell within which you mount the notebook at least when they still manage to break the notebook you can reuse the armoured shock absorbing clam shell. Now if you say you can do the same with a tablet, er, why screw around you have a lid why not the keyboard. The other message never ever have anything to do with News Corporation they are masters of propaganda and not performance, hence never to be trusted with anything.

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    10. Re:And this is what you get when you by hey! · · Score: 2

      My sister routinely drags her iPad into the bathroom to listen to music while she takes a shower

      And she puts a piece of masking tape over the camera lens, right?

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  3. Er, lolwut? by girlintraining · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is news, how exactly?

    Raise your hand if you know that teenagers tend to break shit. A lot. Move along, nothing to see here.

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    1. Re:Er, lolwut? by wjcofkc · · Score: 2

      I am awfully surprised to see this modded troll to the point I feel kind of bad for you. If I had a point I would be giving it too you as insightful instead of commenting. Of course kids break shit. I saw this coming when this was first announced. With the exception of the melting adapters this whole story is redundant because... of course kids break shit. I'm even willing to bet those cases fit before those kids got there hands on them. Torsion anyone? Given the whole year I'll also bet over half of those screens would have been broken Gorilla Glass or not.

      Someone have the good sense to mod girlintraining up!

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  4. Stop buying tables for schools. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't care if they are iPads or Android tablets or whatever. They aren't ready for public schools to waste their money on them.

    1. Re:Stop buying tables for schools. by Salgak1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The REAL question is. . . . which relative of which school board member(s) got a hefty "consulting" fee for persuading the District to do this. . .

  5. What do they expect? by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 4, Funny

    They probably shouldn't have incorporated the tablets into the wood shop curriculum - if a student doesn't have a hammer available, he's gonna use the first thing he can lay his hands on.

    Fortunately, back in my day, that just meant occasionally driving nails with a crescent wrench.

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  6. Contract by Threni · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "listed in the contract, but the school district did not confirm the condition of the tablets before accepting them"

    But they were listed in the contract. Presumably the school didn't check the CPU either. So what?

    1. Re:Contract by plover · · Score: 2

      How is the school supposed to know? If they ordered Li-Po batteries and they tore one open and found the part number on the batteries indicated they were Li-Ion, they'd at least be able to check. But a sheet of glass has no such markings.

      And to your point, that's not their responsibility, either. They ordered X, they received Y, breach of contract. Done.

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    2. Re:Contract by Threni · · Score: 2

      I don't know who you think you're replying to but it sure as hell isn't me!

  7. Same problem, different form factor by chill · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Half-a-dozen years ago when my daughter was in high school, the district piloted a "laptop progam" where all the books and assignments were done electronically. They had some deal with Microsoft and Dell with "deals" on MS Office Student and some Dell laptops.

    I threw a fit and insisted we would NOT be purchasing the "required" laptops and would provide one for our daughter. The school relented because I made such a pain of myself.

    Off to E-Bay I went and purchased an older, used Panasonic Toughbook. Not the latest, but ran all the software and rugged enough to stop small caliber weapons fire.

    The breakage rate of those cheap, plastic Dell laptops was horrific. High schoolers casually tossed them on desks or in their locker or bookbags, resulting in over 90% of them getting returned for repair by the end of the year.

    We ended up selling the Toughbook to a student entering the program in the next year. It had held up fine.

    Computers given to students need to be mil-spec ruggedized if you want them to remain usable for any period of time.

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    1. Re:Same problem, different form factor by cusco · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Toughbook salesman came to the place I used to work, was told, "No, we don't need your expensive laptops, we have a contract with Compaq already." He asked to borrow one of their bucket trucks, and amazingly they agreed. He went about 20 feet up and tossed the Toughbook out. It bounced around a bit, and started right up when he turned it on. Then he closed it, laid it on the ground and told the bucket truck driver to run over it. He did, and when they opened it up it was still running. They bought a bunch of them. Amazing salesman.

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  8. Lack of iPads in the news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This comes as no surprise to those of us that work for public schools (including me, staying safely anonymous). What is a surprise is the lack of negative news for iPad roll-outs. The latest one in my county was to a tiny public school in the country of 500 students. They were given iPads a week before school started. On opening day there was a dozen broken sent in plastic bags to my office with a 'Pls repair ASAP! Thx' post-it note applied. After a month the pile had risen to 50. We expect to go into Christmas break with over a hundred broken.

    Of course we will not be canceling the program. The way that the Apple contracts are set up with the administration means that the parents have to reimburse the school district $1000 for a totaled device, $400 for a screen, and $100 for anything else. No opt out, as our textbooks are all digital now. It is considered a self-funding project, IT costs included.

    I apologize for the rant. It is just this tablet craze is more of a detriment, nomatter the manufacturer.

    1. Re:Lack of iPads in the news by cusco · · Score: 2

      Do you not remember being a teenager? I couldn't even keep a car in one piece.

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    2. Re: Lack of iPads in the news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It should be illegal for a school to do anything like that. Patents shouldn't have to pay for the bad decisions of school boards and administrators. I propose passing a law requiring school boards and administrators to reimburse and pay for any such fees that impact more than x % of students out of there own pockets. x would require some research, but 6% sounds like a good target.

    3. Re:Lack of iPads in the news by aaarrrgggh · · Score: 2

      And what was a lost or damaged textbook? Back in my youth, IIRC about $35 to replace my 3rd grade Social Studies book about the wonders of the Tasady People. I think it was a couple years later that they realized the Tasady were a hoax. With inflation, that would place a single textbook loss at about $85-100.

      Not being able to opt-out is a bit of a bummer, but I appreciate the challenges of BYOD in K-12.

  9. Students are Hard on Hardware by ideonexus · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Unfortunately, this mirrors my own experience when I bought all the kids on my street laptops on the condition that they spend weeks with me learning how to handle and respect them. One year later, every single laptop was inoperable. Of course, every one of these kids owned an iPod touch... with a broken screen, so there were warning signs.

    I think the problem is the portability of these devices. The reason I didn't break my Commodore 64 when I was a kid is because it sat on a desk. If it was portable, I probably would have shattered or lost it at some point too. I don't think we can make these devices rugged enough to survive your average teenager.

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    1. Re:Students are Hard on Hardware by hey! · · Score: 2

      It's not just kids. I used to work on mobile software for guys doing various kinds of outdoor field work. I told clients to figure on replacing their PDAs at least every two years. I'd reckon about 20% broke outright each year, and at the end of two years even the ones that weren't actually broken were falling apart from heavy use. These were well-made PDAs in rugged cases that guys could carry in their pockets. I shudder to think what they're doing these days with iPads.

      When you're thinking about adopting any kind of gizmo that's supposed to be used all day long, you have to look at that gizmo as disposable. Stuff happens to things you carry around all the time. I have a light touch with equipment, so my stuff tends to last longer than most people's; but even I once broke a Newton screen, back in the early days. There was a guy in my office who destroyed one laptop per year, like clockwork.

      I used to tell my clients that equipment was made to be used and thrown away. The important thing is preserving data. If a device is so expensive you've got to count on people mollycoddling it, it's not ready for field use.

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  10. Accountability by EMG+at+MU · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How much do you want to bet that no one in the school district will be held accountable for the inept management of this program?

    Anecdotally: I did IT for my school district between graduating high school and going to university and I can attest that the administrators were completely clueless about technology. Their job was to sign contracts, so they would go out to lunch/dinner with some sales guy who would promise the sky and then when it failed they would move on to the next vendor who would promise to make all the problems better.

    Examples: Entire classroom logs onto machines (30+), of course roaming profile is turned on so everything has to propagate. 30 machines into one switch, one connection from that switch to some other switch that has one connection to the server. No backbone, no QOS, and it never occurred that they didn't need the stupid roaming profile enabled.
    So of course all the teachers complained everything was slow. The Admins, not understanding networking and what a bottleneck is (except the ones they had at lunch) threw out all the completely functional machines and bought new top of the line shit from Dell. Problem still not solved, so they got some network vendor to come in and check it out. Result: the school installed fiber to EVERYWHERE. Every classroom had fibre run to it so the stupid roaming profile could propagate. Now there was nothing going on in this school that required the hardware and bandwidth that they had, the most computer centric class was keyboarding. (poverty stricken school district is another issue).

    I guess I'm cynical but I hold most school district administrators in contempt. They have no adult supervision, the head IT guy is usually some ex teacher with a information systems cert. You as a vendor, could walk into the room and say "your johnson rod is miscalibrated, it will cost $10,000 to calibrate and all the problems will go away" and they will all say "Yep thats what I suspected, cut this man a check. And they will tell the Superintendent they fixed all the computer problems. No independent oversight, no audit.

    Didn't some school district recently find out it bought tens of thousands of dollars of extra equipment from HP or Cisco because no one in the district could tell a IP switch from a railroad switch?

    I was wrong it was the state goverment

  11. As a student in Guilford County.. by Tifer · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Well, a high school student in Guilford County, I thought this program would fail from the very beginning. I go to a private school that issues laptops to students starting in 6th grade (except WE buy them and own them individually, not, say, the state) and continuing through 12th grade. Students at my school break their laptops all the time--screens crack, keys pop out, power cords explode, etc. Most damages are covered by the laptops' warranties. We took classes for a year on properly maintaining electronics and we STILL end up with cases of powderized hard drives every year. It was hard for me to believe that MY state would pay such huge sums of money for thousands of dubiously-effective devices that are known to shatter when dropped. There's no way not to sound like a snob saying this, but I can't see many public school students being particularly careful with these tablets. The students at my school took classes in handling our laptops, paid for them with our own money, and STILL pay out the ass fixing the things every year because so many of them do not respect computers. I haven't read the literature on tablets in education, but I didn't think this was a cost-effective program and I predicted that 50% of the tablets would be MIA or KIA by the end of the first school year. I'm glad I won't get to a chance to prove myself right, but it's a shame that nobody at any point in the process of rolling out these tablets questioned the feasibility of it all.

    1. Re:As a student in Guilford County.. by Zaelath · · Score: 2

      There's no way not to sound like a snob saying this, but I can't see many public school students being particularly careful with these tablets.

      That's because you are a snob, it's simple really.

      I've seen many public school students that care for everything they're given like Faberge eggs because they don't get much of anything, and I've seen private school kids destroy their own property because it's not the latest thing and their parents won't replace a working unit.

      Neither anecdote is applicable for all people of either class.

  12. The rabbit hole by sdinfoserv · · Score: 5, Informative

    Studies have shown no increase in math and reading scores with the adoption of high technology - use of tables or laptops. The moral of the story being there's no magic bullet to replace old fashion reading, writing and arithmetic. Just because it's sexy, doesn't mean you need to spend the money.

  13. Shoddy Contract Management by Kozar_The_Malignant · · Score: 2

    > but GCS has stated that the tablets broke because they lacked a layer of Gorilla Glass. This was listed in the contract, but the school district did not confirm the condition of the tablets before accepting them

    This is a $3,000,000.00 contract and no one thought to check the product specs against the contract specs. Heads need to roll, and certainly would where I work. And, yes I work for a government agency.

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    1. Re:Shoddy Contract Management by Just+Brew+It! · · Score: 2

      Agree 100% with your disdain for "technology as panacea". However, if these tablets did not meet the specs stipulated in the contract that's still fraud regardless of whether it was a good idea in the first place.

  14. Re:What did they expect for that price? by 6ULDV8 · · Score: 3, Funny

    >> That's less than 13 cents each. What kind of quality did they expect??
    > $200.00 / 15000 ~= 0.0133 cents each

    He's still technically correct, and that's the best kind of correct. Your example would be $0.0133 each. I'm heading back to cartoons now.

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  15. Re:I'm not sure I understand the premise by plover · · Score: 4, Funny

    Our school switched this term to iPads for all students. My old-school technique of placing sticky tabs on the pages to discuss no longer works. Yet somehow, I'm managing to use the highlights and notes features of the textbook app to still teach the class. And somehow, my students are managing to do their required reading, and turn in their homework on time.

    I don't understand how any of this can happen if a tablet can't replace a textbook. Perhaps you have some reason that it's not working that I'm simply unaware of? Is there some critical function of textbooks I'm missing? I certainly haven't tried fully replacing all the normal functions of textbooks with iPads yet, such as doorstops, anchors, body-building equipment, or fly swatters. But as far as learning tools go, they seem to be working for us.

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  16. Re:WTF? by AK+Marc · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Schools don't have money, school districts have money. The per-student in-class spending on students is very low in the US, but the per-student education "costs" in the US are among the highest in the world. We pay administrators, management, testing organizations, textbook deals, and all that at premium prices, but teacher pay and conditions aren't that good.

    So this is logical (even if horribly broken). The district bought them, not the schools, even if they "gave" them to only one school as a pilot. At my school (a public school that has been on the list of the best in the country), the teachers volunteered for most after school activities. Only sports were sponsored. So academic contests were often held under the banner of UIL, the same organization that handles sports in Texas. So the math contests were "sports" on paper. And yes, I got a High School Letter in "sports" because of my participation in math (and other) contests.

  17. Re:I kinda' get it ... by AK+Marc · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The weight of books is an issue. About 10% of the students in my school had weight-related issues diagnosed (scoliosis in girls was common). I didn't find out until later that wearing a backpack one-strapped would lead to deformity (I had a doctor raise it as an issue when I broke a shoulder in a sporting accident). I couldn't be "fixed" because I was asymmetrical to begin with. When my kids get to school age, that's a fight I'm willing to fight. They shouldn't be forced to carry 20% of their body weight around on their backs regularly. An electronic device makes much more sense.

  18. Re:What could possibly go wrong? by Just+Brew+It! · · Score: 2

    Bingo. Comparing the breakage rate for tablets that have been handed out to middle schoolers to that for tablets which have been bought by (and presumably used mostly by) adults is meaningless.

    That said, if the contract stipulated that they were supposed to have Gorilla Glass screens and they didn't come so equipped, then that's fraud. If fraud is proven, then hopefully this results in some hefty financial penalties and/or jail time for those responsible.

  19. Get what you paid for by TheSkepticalOptimist · · Score: 2

    You get what you pay for.

    Buy some shitty cheap OEM android tablet where 1 in 10 breaks in the hands of children, you got what you paid for.

    The only joke about this is it costs a minimum $600 because of a subscription based pricing structure. So $50 spent on the actual tablet hardware and $550 spent on bullshit.

    Not saying that iPad's are the solution, but you think a company set up to provide devices for the K - 12 age group might have invested a little more heavily in industrial design considering that children are not going to respect a device, especially if its handed to them for free.

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  20. Re:I'm not sure I understand the premise by plover · · Score: 2

    Exactly where in my post did I claim it made teaching or learning any better or worse? I didn't. I don't know yet if the students will come out stupid or smart as a result of having iPads. All I know is that I taught them with a textbook last term, and I'm teaching them with an iPad this term, despite the claims that such a feat is impossible.

    I didn't say iPads won't get broken, dropped, smashed, go for a swim, get run over, or get placed in the same backpack as a shotput (yes, that's happened to a student's cell phone.) And I didn't say they were cheaper or more expensive.

    I have already seen two wrapped in self-funded Otter Boxes and Life-something-cases, because the student knew they were at risk of breaking them. And I do know the price of e-textbooks is considerably cheaper than the price of dead-tree textbooks, and I believe that if half the students can manage to avoid breaking their Precious over the life of about six classes, the savings over paper books will place them at the breakeven point. Every e-textbook used after that will save money, even if the tablet has to be replaced again.

    Textbooks are psychotically expensive. That's the primary reason the schools are turning to tablets.

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