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Are We Socially Ready For Wearable Computing?

An anonymous reader writes "Smart watches have arrived, and Google Glass is on its way. As early-adopters start to gain some experience with these devices, they're learning some interesting lessons about how wearable computing affects our behavior differently from even smartphones and tablets. Vint Cerf says, 'Our social conventions have not kept up with the technology.' Right now, it's considered impolite to talk on your cellphone while checking out at the grocery store, or to ignore a face-to-face conversation in favor of texting somebody. But 20 years ago, those actions weren't even on our social radar. Wearable devices create some obvious social problems, like the aversion to Glass's ever-present camera. But there are subtler ones, as well, for which we'll need to develop another set of social norms. A Pebble smart watch user gave an example: 'People thought I was being rude and checking the time constantly when I was really monitoring incoming messages. It sent the wrong signal.' The article continues, 'Therein lies the wearables conundrum. You can put a phone away and choose not to use it. You can turn to it with permission if you're so inclined. Wearables provide no opportunity for pause, as their interruptions tend to be fairly continuous, and the interaction is more physical (an averted glance or a vibration directly on your arm). It's nearly impossible to train yourself to avoid the reflex-like response of interacting. By comparison, a cell phone is away (in your pocket, on a table) and has to be reached for.'"

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  1. For me, it's all about invisibility... by dlingman · · Score: 2

    If you can't tell that I'm reading email, or surfing the web while interacting with others, that's a good thing. I don't want things intruding into my presence unless I ask for them though.

    1. Re:For me, it's all about invisibility... by mark_reh · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So lemme see if I get this: you want to be able to send and receive text messages while interacting with others, but you don't want them to know you're doing it so they won't think you're some sort of a-hole? And you think that the person you're interacting with won't notice you staring at your watch? And you think they won't notice that it's big, clunky, and has text displayed on it, sort like, oh, I don't know, a phone?

    2. Re:For me, it's all about invisibility... by slick7 · · Score: 2

      If you can't tell that I'm reading email, or surfing the web while interacting with others, that's a good thing. I don't want things intruding into my presence unless I ask for them though.

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    3. Re:For me, it's all about invisibility... by davester666 · · Score: 2

      Oh, they know he's a a-hole.

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    4. Re:For me, it's all about invisibility... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      personally, what I want is the Social Analyzer like in Deus Ex. That was the most useful, though exploitative augmentation, in the whole game. Imagine a thermal polygraph, pupil response tracker, and directional microphone for detecting subtle changes in the body caused by subconsious reaction. Now include the ability to build a psych profile based off of a person's social networking data and Current behavior modeling. For the third element, include data from all previous interactions that you have had involving that person to create a framework for any sort of manipulation you want to do. The last is an artificial pheremone delivery system, which can be used to directly manipulate the other person at the biological level.

      take something like that with a direct retinal display, and you got something scary.

  2. Duh! by mark_reh · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A Pebble smart watch user gave an example: 'People thought I was being rude and checking the time constantly when I was really monitoring incoming messages. It sent the wrong signal.'

    I've got news for you. You're not sending a good signal when you check your phone for text messages during a conversation either. In either case you're indirectly but very clearly saying to the person standing in front of you that anything, including the time of day, a text message, or a facebook update is more important/interesting than what you are saying to me right now.

    1. Re:Duh! by Kjella · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Ah yes but he was sending the wrong rude message, it was "I'm so bored listening to you it seems time is standing still and I keep checking my watch praying this will soon be over" instead of the "I'm far too busy and important to devote all my attention and energy to interacting with you, so I'll casually show it by doing other things at the same time" rude.

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    2. Re:Duh! by gnoshi · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I guess Im being rude now by asking a reasonable question.

      No, you're being rude by wasting people's time by pretending to ask a reasonable question while actually just being a sanctimonious ass.

    3. Re:Duh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Is it rude when you actually do have things going on that really are more important than some small-talk the person in front of you keeps making? Should I prioritize the guy's views of a football team over an e-mail from my wife concerning our family? Should my boss be less important than the guy in front of me and his views of football and gadgets?

      Yes, yes and yes.

      If you don't want to talk with someone, break off the conversation with them. Do not engage in other activities whilst you are talking to them.

      Saying the words "Excuse me, please, I need to check this" is apparently an epic, impossible feat that only the greatest of men can accomplish.

    4. Re:Duh! by Kjella · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Should I prioritize the guy's views of a football team over an e-mail from my wife concerning our family?

      If your wife is sending you urgent e-mails about your family that you need to deal with right now and not in ten minutes, maybe that's the problem? If it's urgent you call. Twice if need be, to let you know voice mail is not quick enough. If your excuse for checking your email every time a message pops in is that it might possibly be urgent, it's a bloody poor one. Not to mention you'll probably spend most of your life checking email, but that's not anyone else's problem.

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    5. Re:Duh! by ultranova · · Score: 2

      Ah yes but he was sending the wrong rude message, it was "I'm so bored listening to you it seems time is standing still and I keep checking my watch praying this will soon be over" instead of the "I'm far too busy and important to devote all my attention and energy to interacting with you, so I'll casually show it by doing other things at the same time" rude.

      Except, of course, the point of the activity was not to send a message, it was to check if he had received any. The social message of rejection was an uninteded side effect.

      And yes, I actually am far too busy and important to devote all my attention and energy to interacting with you. Every single person in the world who isn't you is. And it isn't the least bit of rude of them to not put all other activities aside just because you want to talk to them. It is, however, rather narcissistic to demand they do so.

      Unfortunately, there are plenty of narcissistic persons out there. They aren't necessarily malicious, but they are apparently unable to comprehend that others have lives and priorities of their own. Thus, if I glance at the clock, it's not me checking the time, it's me sending you a message that I'm bored. If I do anything at all, I'm not doing it because I want it done, I'm doing it to show you I don't want to talk with you. Everything I do is about you, at least in your twisted mind.

      So, that's a critical design feature for a wearable computer: allow me to use the thing without sending any kind of messages to anyone except the intended receiver.

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    6. Re:Duh! by Count+Fenring · · Score: 2

      It's not exactly either/or though, is it? What wouldn't be rude is saying "I'm sorry, I have other things I need to get to" or "I'm sorry, I have to keep an eye on my phone, my wife/boss said they might text." But just ignoring someone you're speaking to in person while staring at your phone? Yes, that's rude, and frankly, it's still rude if you're expecting a text of great import. It comes down to treating other people as if you value their time. If something you're doing doesn't meet that criteria, you're being rude.

    7. Re:Duh! by lxs · · Score: 2

      The stuff I am doing is not necessarily unimportant!

      It may be important to you but it's not to the person you're talking to. It took me a while to realize this, but this whole "I'm a nerd" thing is just an excuse to behave like a spoiled inconsiderate brat.

    8. Re: Duh! by TheLink · · Score: 2

      No the norms do not have to evolve at all, until most humans can themselves evolve to be good multitaskers e.g. able to have more than one conversation at the same time, or similar.

      It is rude. As you can see from the responses from those who think it's OK - they're so full of "I'm more important than you hence you'll have to do with what I have leftover" or similar[1].

      If you are having a conversation with someone, it is rude to not pay attention. Maybe if you are a virtuoso multi-tasker you can do it successfully and the other person won't notice, but most people can't do that - they will miss stuff and either get the wrong message or the other person will have to repeat himself/herself.

      So it's not cultural bias until humans themselves can multitask way better than they can now.

      [1] Yes we all know there are people who are more important than others. But you can be more important without being an asshole. You could be President of the World and you're polite if you actually have a real conversation (without reading your email) or if you just tell people "sorry, I'm too busy to talk to you", or "Sorry can you send me an email instead?". You're rude if you attempt a conversation and then do other things at the same time. Because you'll be wasting other people's time while treating them as if they are wasting your time.

      p.s. Too often I'm guilty of being this rude. It still is rude though.

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    9. Re:Duh! by IndustrialComplex · · Score: 3, Informative

      Here is my system for not being rude in today's "Tech-enhanced society":

      I'll stick my phone in my pocket when I'm speaking with someone. It stays there, untouched, with the following exceptions:

      1. Phone rings - I reach down in my pocket without breaking the conversation and tap a button to silence the call. Often I include "Excuse me." while I perform the action. I can check the call number later.
      2. Phone rings again almost immediately - I tell the person, "It seems like someone really needs to get ahold of me. Please excuse me for a moment."

      Pretty much anything else I'll leave to a 'Bathroom Break'.

      Seems to be a courteous approach to me.

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  3. we've had wearable communication devices for years by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    they're called pagers. I know now one but drug dealers and doctors wear them anymore, but they do exist.

    I wear a pager for work and frequently have to wear it when out in public. I can turn the alert from audible to vibrate when I am in public. Most relevant to the issue at hand, it took me 1-2 years after I got my first pager to train myself to not automatically look at the pager as soon as a message/phone number came in.

    In short, you CAN train yourself to not look instantly once you get it through your head that you are not expecting an urgent/emergency alert.

    Similarly, hospitals are environments where, because of the ubiquity of wearable communication devices (ie pagers) it has become socially acceptable to read incoming messages almost anytime.

    My conclusion is that these two forces will apply outside of the hospital/drug deal: people will learn to resist looking instantly at their watch or other wearable device unless they really are expecting something urgent and bystanders (many of whom will have wearables of their own) will grow to accept more frequent checking of such devices in the correct context.

  4. Re: The wrong signal? by Zaelath · · Score: 2

    Then maybe you should explain that to those people and they'll make sure they're not in your personal space. Problem solved!

  5. Re: The wrong signal? by mark_reh · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Don't worry- the problem will solve itself. Keep checking your phone/smart watch for messages while conversing with others and before long you won't have to put up with people in "your personal space" any more.

  6. Re:People thought I was being rude by PPH · · Score: 5, Funny

    You check your watch for incoming messages. You look at your phone to check the time.

    So, it has come to this.

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  7. If it gets common we will adapt by Kjella · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I remember someone telling me once, he was one of the very first people who got a earplug/microphone for his cell phone and even cell phones were fairly rare. So he was apparently talking straight into thin air to someone who wasn't there, holding a conversation with them. Unless they spotted the earpiece and realized what it was, people thought he was certifiably insane. Today nobody would blink twice at that.

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    1. Re:If it gets common we will adapt by dinfinity · · Score: 2

      Today nobody would blink twice at that.

      Blink: No.
      Feel the urge to repeatedly punch them in the face? Yes.

  8. Form Factor by Dan+East · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I think it's all about the form factor, and Google has gotten it wrong with Google Glass. IMO, the best possible form factor for wearable computing is that of a wrist watch. Even in that regard, companies like Samsung have still gotten it wrong, and for the exact opposite reason that Google has gone wrong.

    Glasses are essentially a display device. They should be an I/O type peripheral, but Google made them the heart of the system. They can't be anything but glasses, on your face, obvious to everyone, with a camera sitting there pointing at everyone, drawing suspicion about what is being recorded or what you might be seeing, etc. They should not be the core of the system, but a peripheral to be used only when needed for those specific functions.

    Now take Samsung's watch. It SHOULD be the core of the system. It should have your CPU, storage, networking, etc, because it is a non-invasive device that billions of people are already used to wearing all day every day. It is the optimum form factor for having with you all the time everywhere you go (even while swimming, etc). But instead they made it a mere peripheral for their phones / tablets.

    The watch should be the core of the system. You can do simple tasks with its small display, it can vibrate in different places (on the bottom of the band, in the watch, etc) in different patterns that could communicate a variety of things without any annoying sound effects (since it's on the wrist the vibration could be very light, unlike a cell phone which has to be felt through clothing, etc). Then if you need a bigger display, you grab a tablet IO device (a mere wireless peripheral for IO for your watch), or a device like Google Glass, or you simply output media from your watch to the nearest TV, etc.

    Anyway, IMO I think everyone is getting it totally backwards when it comes to wearable computing devices.

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    1. Re:Form Factor by gman003 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Not a bad analysis, but I think it misses something. Right now, the watch phones have too poor a battery life to have significant processing power. The watch might make a decent display, but that's about all it can do with any quality. So it's in the same realm as the glasses.

      We're going to need person-area networks. Put a big battery and a powerful computer system in your pocket, have it connect to the watch and glasses for user I/O. Problem is, at that point you may as well slap a screen on the computer part, and then you've got a full smartphone, which reduces the necessity of the other two.

  9. Too fragile for the wrist. by SternisheFan · · Score: 3, Interesting
    My phone has the time, it does all of the messaging already, better than a 'wearable' on my wrist, phone is stowed safely in my pocket. I can count at least 10 watches in my life that got scratched faces, damaged from shocks, or got hooked on something and had the strap break, bye-bye watch!

    So now, I'm expected to do the consumer thing again by buying an over-priced, extremely fragile and unperfected new piece of tech. Thanks anyway, I'll pass on this 'magic'.

    1. Re:Too fragile for the wrist. by mspohr · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Lots of people have expensive watches (some of them very expensive) and most of them seem to have no problem keeping them intact. (However, in your case, maybe a watch is not a good idea.)
      A wrist watch is much more convenient than digging into your pocket to check the time, messages, etc. So just as wrist watches superseded pocket watches, smart watches will supersede pocket phones.

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    2. Re:Too fragile for the wrist. by SternisheFan · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Lots of people have expensive watches (some of them very expensive) and most of them seem to have no problem keeping them intact. (However, in your case, maybe a watch is not a good idea.)

      My life and professions have been probably more 'active' than others. Once cellphones became realistic to own was the last time I ever wore a watch. One less thing to think about/care for. No, I've learned 'wearables' are not for me.

      Sometimes lately I'll go days before checking my phone for messages, as I've been able to re-learn how it feels again to not feel the need to be always 'connected'. It's rather freeing.

      When tech catches up to the point where everything is incorporated into one sole device, that won't have need for constant attention from the user, perhaps I'll adopt in. I'll check back in a few years...

  10. Re:The wrong signal? by meerling · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I've got a (ex)wife that won't fail to answer/reply to a text, even when driving. (Unless it's me, of course.) I've yelled at her many times for texting while driving, and she's gotten 3 very expensive traffic tickets for that so far. (Unless there're more I didn't find out about.)

    Some people won't stop, it's as though it's wired into their brains and everything else is second if not third.

  11. Re: The wrong signal? by blackest_k · · Score: 2

    conversely you are in their personal space too. Pretty much if you are in the same space and if you are not strangers then ignoring them is pretty damn rude. you can always excuse yourself and then give your device your attention. Anything less is being pretty dickish however if you are in the company of someone similar to yourself then it may be acceptable. You must realise that a large majority of people would find your behaviour offensive.

    To be fair smart phones are pretty good at queueing up notifications. friends can post things, email arrives, the phone is pretty good at keeping me informed with a brief tone to let me know something could require my attention. However the extra stage of bringing it out is a useful one as i get to choose when to respond.

    Google glass and the pebble don't lend themselves to the idea of putting them away. kind of like bluetooth headsets are useful but unless you have a lot of calls coming in they are also putting the technology in front of the user. I think that really is the issue. As a user technology should assist but, some of these devices put the user as the peripheral to the device. That's not good, not good at all. I can see how some people can relate to the technology better than with people but i think they are in the minority. I could see work situations thou where google glass was a key part of how somebody works much like a 2 way radio can be a necessary part of somebodies working day.

     

  12. Who would want it? by OhANameWhatName · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Where are we going? Is this a borg society where people are going to be continuously plugged into some sort of network grid and that's the most important thing in the world?

    There are scientists and engineers pushing this idea of wearable computing because it seems cool. What we need isn't the opinion of scientists and engineers, we need to focus on philosophy. Adjust society for computer? Bah, what a load of hogwash. Adjust computing for society! Stop thinking like a computer engineer and start thinking like a human being .. not a human doing.

    1. Re:Who would want it? by gnoshi · · Score: 2

      We're continuously adjusting society for various technological changes. At some point, there would have been social adjustment for whether it was polite to have a record on in the background while having guests, or answering the landline telephone during a conversation, or having the TV on in the background when eating dinner.
      This is no different. Social norms need to be developed to match new developments in technology.

      There is a valid discussion to be had about the social impacts of being continuously connected to a broader 'network' of friends, information, and so on. I think that is the discussion you want to have, not the one about social norms.

  13. Re:we've had wearable communication devices for ye by Libertarian001 · · Score: 4, Informative

    I wear a pager for work (hospital environment). When there, everyone knows exactly why I'm checking it immediately if it goes off. When there or elsewhere, I apologize for checking it by saying, "Sorry, I'm on call. I need to check this." Usually they ask if I need to take it. If I don't, I tell them someone else will get it (we blast to the entire group). If I do, I tell them I'll get it when we're finished. Yes, the stuff I work on is that time critical. 5 minutes can be, and has been, the difference between getting the parts I need that day and getting them back up, or them being down an extra day. I think the key is to tell your audience what's going on instead of just tuning them out.

  14. Google Glass - Most Important Function by germansausage · · Score: 4, Funny

    Apparently the most important function of Google Glass is to summon "Internet Tough Guys" to post on Slashdot.

    "If somebody dares to wear Google Glasses without my permission I will shoot them in the face ....with a bazooka!!"

    1. Re:Google Glass - Most Important Function by Corbets · · Score: 2

      Apparently the most important function of Google Glass is to summon "Internet Tough Guys" to post on Slashdot.

      And then there are smartass cock-gobblers like you who are obviously in
      search of a good beating which is obviously overdue.

      Brilliant. Even just mentioning the topic works!

  15. Re:Google Glass should be outlawed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I love the way you go from literally punching your houseguests in the face to complaining about people who lack social skills.

  16. Re:NO !! by phrostie · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Shamelessly stolen from, http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Jurassic_Park_(film)

    "Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should"

  17. Re:Google Glass should be outlawed. by greggman · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I will politely tell you go shove it. You have no right to tell me what I can remember or how I can remember it whether I see it with organic eyes or digital eyes, hear it with organic ears or digital ears and store it in organic memory or digital memory. You also have no right to tell me who can I share my memories with or how I share them whether with analog audio or digital audio, whether with analog transmission or digital transmission.

    The rest of us will augment. First it will start with people that can't see or can't hear or can't remember things well, then it will continue to most of the rest of us. It's only a matter of time. Just like we augmented our skin with clothing, our feet with shoes, our brains with slide rules, then calculators, then computers, we'll do the same with sight, sound, and memory.

    If you're not ready for that too bad for you.

  18. Re: The wrong signal? by tchuladdiass · · Score: 2

    That is one thing that really gets under my skin -- when I am visiting with someone (i.e., I took the effort to go over to their space, whether it is a co-worker's office, or visiting with family), and their phone rings. No matter what we're in the middle of talking about, that phone call always gets priority.

  19. Re:we've had wearable communication devices for ye by mark_reh · · Score: 2

    Hospitals still use pagers for one simple reason. They are 1000x more reliable than a text message. Pager system coverage areas are far larger and more saturated with signals than cell systems which are full of holes in coverage. The signaling scheme used in paging systems is more reliable and the frequencies used penetrate buildings better than cell signals.

  20. Re:Google Glass should be outlawed. by Dare · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I for one have no problem with you augmenting your eyes, ears and memory. I do have a bit of a problem with Google sharing your augmentations.

    Honestly, I would have no problem with a wearable, even always-on camera. It's the Google's panopticon bit I have reservations with.

  21. Article asks a stupid question by russotto · · Score: 3, Insightful

    We're never socially ready for ANYTHING new. The process of building social norms around something can't start until after that thing is introduced. The implication, then (often made explicit by hand-wringers calling themselves "ethicists" or some such thing) that we should stop the thing until we ARE "socially ready" for is equivalent to pure conservativism -- stopping everything new.

  22. Priorities: Do you really need to read that now? by thepacketmaster · · Score: 2

    It's great that we can be so connected, but ask yourself this: how urgent is that email from Amazon? Or that calendar invitation about a party next month? Are you living your life or just sifting through emails and instant messages? If you're on-call for your job, have a friend or family member in the hospital, or some similarly important event going on, then that's definitely a valid reason for interrupting a conversation and attending to your device. If you want to read emails while pretending to pay attention to someone, then perhaps face-to-face socialization isn't for you. While people *think* they can covertly read emails while holding a conversation, I've never met anybody that could actually do so. I've been guilty of trying that myself and realized how silly the whole situation is. Anyone trained in business or interpersonal communication will tell you the same thing: Pay attention to the person with whom you're speaking, or excuse yourself to read your emails.

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  23. No different twenty years ago by J'raxis · · Score: 2

    "Right now, it's considered impolite to talk on your cellphone while checking out at the grocery store, or to ignore a face-to-face conversation in favor of texting somebody. But 20 years ago, those actions weren't even on our social radar."

    Sure they were. Twenty years ago, if you were in line at the grocery store and rather than paying attention to checking out, you were idly standing there chatting with the person next to you, that would be just as rude as talking on your cell phone. And if you were having a face-to-face conversation with someone and abruptly stopped to turn and interact with someone else, that would be considered just as rude as abruptly stopping to text.

    The rude behavior is the same then and now. Distraction, interruption, inattentiveness, and so on. All that's changed is that the technology has allowed the other person in the scenario to become a virtual presence than an actual.

  24. Will we ever truly be ready? by X!0mbarg · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Seriously, though. My fellow workers and I refer to most folks walking by, obliviously texting away as "Pod-People". Many of them with ear buds (or even huge, bulky headphones) to emphasize their wanting not to hear you. People aren't truly in tune with proper social behavior with cell phones/smart phones and constant (albeit intermittent) communications now. If a device (any device) makes it even more of an attention hog than it has already become, then people are going to start walking into traffic (even more than they already do). Many people today are already texting people they are physically standing beside as a method of "whispering" things clandestinely, no matter how rude it really is. People are already getting fully absorbed in their smart phones to the point of not knowing how to hold a coherent conversation over a meal. All this will simply be compounded with the more pervasive devices. It's only a matter of time before Google Glass becomes outright illegal to use while driving. It's bad enough that people think that having their smart phone in their lap while driving is acceptable and considered safe, despite being illegal in many places. What is it going to take before people start taking serious offense at others' smart device use in public places? Not serving people while they are on their phone is a decent start. After all, how rude is it to be expecting someone else to give you proper attention to serve you, and you can't even be bothered to pay enough attention to get the amount of you bill right? Little wonder why many employers have effectively banned smart phone use while at work, particularly in the service and hospitality industry. How far will it go? Extremism exists, and will manifest itself on both sides of this topic. Mark my works: It Will Get Ugly!

  25. Re:Google Glass should be outlawed. by greggman · · Score: 2

    I'm not "Recording" you. I'm "remembering" you. I just happen to either (a) have digital augmentation or (b) have equipment to read my memories (c) or both.

  26. Mu by TheCarp · · Score: 4, Insightful

    frankly, I think this is a meaningless question. What does "Socially ready" even mean? Society does not "prepare" for change. Change happens and then society adapts. Or more accurately, change happens, some people adapt, and children grow up knowing a new society that never didn't have that change and can't conceive of a world that didn't have it.... then they grow up to ask whether society is ready for the next change, which their children will grow up familiar with, and who will think their parents were silly, crazy, and overly paranoid for doubting.

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  27. Re:we've had wearable communication devices for ye by IndustrialComplex · · Score: 2

    Sometimes the "angry commuter horn" means you're drifting into their lane and half a second from side-swiping them... ignoring it is a bad idea in that case.

    Once my "angry commuter horn" meant "I'm hauling a load of cinderblocks, it's 10 degrees, and some psycho sprayed water on a steep downhill slope heading to an intersection"

    Trust me, that wasn't a horn you wanted to tune out.

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