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Apple Announces iPad Air

Today Apple held a press conference to unveil its updated software and hardware products. The biggest news was the announcement of the 'iPad Air,' which has a 9.7" Retina display. It's 7.5 mm thick, which is 20% thinner than the older iPad. The weight has dropped from 1.4 lbs to 1.0 lbs, and it runs on a 64-bit A7 chip with an M7 motion coprocessor. Apple claims performance has doubled over the previous-gen iPad. The iPad Air will be available on November 1st. The iPad Mini is getting a new revision as well. The display has been upgraded to 7.9" at 2048x1536, which is the same resolution as the iPad Air. The new Mini has an A7 chip as well.

Apple also announced that the new version of Mac OS X (10.9 Mavericks) is available now and is free to all Mac OS X users. It includes better multi-monitor support, tabs in Finder, and a number of performance optimizations. The Macbook Pro is getting updates to the 13" and 15" models, which are now running on Intel Haswell processors. They both have PCIe SSDs, 802.11ac Wi-Fi, and Thunderbolt 2 support. Apple also talked about the redesigned Mac Pro line. As you may recall from WWDC, the new model takes up about about 1/8th of the volume as the old one. It's cooled by a single fan, uses 70% less power than the earlier model, and puts out 12 dB of noise when idling. It'll be available in December. On the software side, Apple has been updating a lot of their software to add 64-bit support and mesh with the new iOS 7 style of design. This includes iPhoto, iMovie, and Garageband, as well as the iLife and iWork software suites. iWork is also getting collaborative work features, and it's now free with new Macs and iOS devices.

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  1. Major shot at Microsoft, too. by jcr · · Score: 4, Interesting

    iWork is now free, and include collaboration features that MS Office will have a hell of a time trying to match.

    -jcr

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    1. Re:Major shot at Microsoft, too. by Barlo_Mung_42 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      MS is more worried about Google docs imo. Office already has collaborative features that work across platforms. For iWork to be interesting it would need to work on more than just Mac.

    2. Re:Major shot at Microsoft, too. by guruevi · · Score: 4, Informative

      It has been working on any device for a while now. It's similar to O365, it's browser based but free.

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    3. Re:Major shot at Microsoft, too. by jcr · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Microsoft's collaboration support looks pretty half-assed to me. http://www.pcworld.com/article/2033437/collaboration-in-microsoft-office-painful-but-not-impossible.html

      -jcr

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    4. Re:Major shot at Microsoft, too. by adamstew · · Score: 3, Informative

      The collaboration features will work on any device that has reasonable HTML 5 support as it is entirely browser based...including Mac, iDevices, Windows (IE, Chrome, Firefox), and a fair number of non-apple tablets...including the Surface. No license or account is needed for the collaborators.

    5. Re:Major shot at Microsoft, too. by Roadstar · · Score: 5, Informative

      Office only has a native client on Windows,

      I beg to differ.

    6. Re:Major shot at Microsoft, too. by BLToday · · Score: 5, Interesting

      iWork is surprisingly very functional on a Surface. Don't laugh. I've used iWork for iCloud on my Surface (no keyboard cover) and works much better than the built in MS Office that comes with the Surface since Office pretty much requires the keyboard cover.

    7. Re:Major shot at Microsoft, too. by NatasRevol · · Score: 3, Informative
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    8. Re:Major shot at Microsoft, too. by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Actually I'm thinking of making a complaint under UK data protection laws. They are only allowed to keep personal information as long as they have a legitimate reason to do so, and since I no long have any relationship with them I can't see a reason why they should not delete my email address.

      At most they should store a hash of it if their systems are so shitty that signing up with a previously deleted email address will break them, but that's the absolute limit.

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    9. Re:Major shot at Microsoft, too. by ljw1004 · · Score: 4, Informative

      I went here and tried to log in with my AppleID. It said:

      Set up iCloud on a device to use iCloud.com.
      Your Apple ID must be used to set up iCloud on an iOS or OS X device before you can use iCloud.com.

      So for Linux and windows users, no, iWork doesn't work.

    10. Re:Major shot at Microsoft, too. by ljw1004 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I can read. I don't own an iOS or OS X device. That's what I meant by "Linux or windows user" - one who uses these operating systems rather than apple ones.

    11. Re:Major shot at Microsoft, too. by smash · · Score: 3, Interesting

      This is by design. You are not an apple customer.

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  2. I gotta admit by Andrio · · Score: 4, Interesting

    That's pretty impressive engineering. Think it allows Android to be installed on it? :)

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    1. Re: I gotta admit by supertrooper · · Score: 5, Funny

      Speak for yourself. Now that it's twice as fast, I can finish the movie in half the time.

    2. Re:I gotta admit by SighKoPath · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You could, if there were versions of iOS or Windows compatible with its hardware. I mean, the Nexus doesn't prevent you from installing other OSs - take a look at Ubuntu Touch.

    3. Re:I gotta admit by CanHasDIY · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Why is it abusive? It's their hardware, their rules.

      You just answered your own question: because once I pay for it, it's not their hardware anymore. It's mine, and I'll do whatever I damn well please with it.

      And yes, I apply that logic to every single one of the greedy bastards who prevent consumers from having full control over their own property, not just Apple.

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    4. Re:I gotta admit by tlhIngan · · Score: 4, Informative

      That's pretty impressive engineering. Think it allows Android to be installed on it? :)

      Except the bootloader probably isn't designed to boot 32-bit OSes, ARMv8 isn't terribly impressive in AArch32 mode, and Android isn't 64-bit native yet.

      Most of the speed ups the A7 gets are from 64-bit code as it cleans up a lot of the architecture. 32-bit code works, but the speedup is minimal.

      And yes, the bootloader has to be 64-bit and then switch the CPU to 32-bit mode in order to boot a 32-bit OS. Running a 32-bit OS means you can't run 64-bit code at all. When you go down the privilege levels (secure monitor, hypervisor (VM), kernel, user) you can go from 64 to 32 bit mode, but to go the other way requires going up the stack.

  3. iPads seem to overcome moore's law by etash · · Score: 5, Funny

    since every new version is twice as faster as the previous one, given the fact that we see new versions in less than 18 months.

    unless apple's engineers are optimizing this infamous loop:

    for(i=0;i1000000000;i++);

    1. Re:iPads seem to overcome moore's law by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Informative

      since every new version is twice as faster as the previous one, given the fact that we see new versions in less than 18 months.

      Moore's Law is an observation about transistor density, not CPU speed.

  4. Why is iPad so much better than iPhone? by WiiVault · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Not to bash the iPhone, but how is it that Apple seems to be so much ahead of the pack when it comes to the iPad but the iPhone seems to be just another high-end smartphone? I mean the new full-size iPad seems so much better especially in size and weight than anything else out there, while the 5s is just a nice spec bump.

    1. Re:Why is iPad so much better than iPhone? by BaronAaron · · Score: 4, Informative

      To be fair the Sony Xperia Tablet Z is only 6.9mm thick and only 1.1 pounds... The rest of the specs are also about the same, and that's been out for a month or two now.

    2. Re:Why is iPad so much better than iPhone? by Connie_Lingus · · Score: 3, Insightful

      did you really say that Android is on borrowed time??

      that's just utterly ridiculous...even if Google stopped work on it today, the OS community and the huge worldwide installed userbase would keep it going forever, just like Linus did with unix.

      Android is going to be with us forever.

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    3. Re:Why is iPad so much better than iPhone? by BaronAaron · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The SXTZ display: 10.1". iPad Air display: 9.7"

      If you won't care about the extra 128x336 pixels, I won't care about the extra 0.4 inches... Or the likely $100 price difference...

    4. Re:Why is iPad so much better than iPhone? by LordLimecat · · Score: 4, Funny

      Moving goalposts for the win!

      Post a tablet priced cheaper, better specs, but 0.1 lbs heavier? The claim will be that the iPad is better because its more portable.
      Post a tablet priced around the same, better weight / thickness, but not as good screen? iPad is better!

      I will admit that when it comes to being exactly like an iPad, Apple does it best.

    5. Re:Why is iPad so much better than iPhone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Android is going to be with us forever.

      Like Herpes.

    6. Re:Why is iPad so much better than iPhone? by ArcadeMan · · Score: 3, Informative

      Backward compatibility with what, exactly? Do you expect iOS to run Windows software?

      Keyboards? You can use a bluetooth keyboard with any current iOS device and a lot of previous generations too.

      Behind the curve? Only a small percentage of Android phones and tablets are using cutting-edge technology for both hardware and software. It doesn't matter if there's 10 times more Android hardware if 90% of it is brand new yet low-end stuff that cannot even run the latest software.

    7. Re:Why is iPad so much better than iPhone? by BaronAaron · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The OP said the iPad seem so much better then anything out there.

      My point is both tablets are in the same class. Not arguing the new iPad edges out the competition. It should, it's the newest high end tablet, but it's not revolutionary or anything. It will quickly lose the spec crown when the next round of high end Android tablets come out.

    8. Re:Why is iPad so much better than iPhone? by CanHasDIY · · Score: 3, Interesting

      that's just utterly ridiculous. Outside of slashdot, people don't root their phones and install a custom build of android.

      No, but they do ask Slashdotters to do it for them.

      At least, that's my experience.

      "Hey, man, how do you keep that old Droid X running so smooth? Cyanogenmod, what's that? Can you put it on my phone for me?"

      ...in 1-2 years, they'll toss it and get another one... They'll play angry birds and dick around with wallpaper and ringtones and never give a shit...

      That I cannot disagree with.

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    9. Re:Why is iPad so much better than iPhone? by non0score · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Troll fail often? iPad and iPhones tend to have the top of the line internals at the time of release, CPU and GPU (they do skimp on RAM, though). If it wasn't for them maintaining screen resolution to help developers, they probably would've held on to the highest res screens title as well.

    10. Re:Why is iPad so much better than iPhone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      The issue is only mute if you broke the speaker and don't have headphones.

    11. Re:Why is iPad so much better than iPhone? by narcc · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Is it "Welcome to Slashdot"?

  5. Unix Workstation by psergiu · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Apple haters or not, the saddest thing to realize is that the only UNIX(R) Workstation on the market is now the Mac. As Apple is the only UNIX 03 certification holder who is still making desktops and laptops. All the other UNIX 03 hardware produced at the moment is Datacenter-only rackmounted servers.

    So $2999 for a powerful UNIX(R) Workstation is a fair price.

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    1. Re:Unix Workstation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What use do you have for a UNIX(R) Workstation when you can use Linux or Freebsd for some UNIX-like goodness? Are their compatibility issues with something you work with?

    2. Re:Unix Workstation by stewsters · · Score: 5, Funny

      Forget the workstation, I'm thinking of getting a couple of the mac pros and putting them in a rack.

    3. Re:Unix Workstation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well, you could just take any just about any workstation and put Solaris on it.

      then you'd have 2 problems

    4. Re:Unix Workstation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      What use do you have for a UNIX(R) Workstation when you can use Linux or Freebsd for some UNIX-like goodness?

      Chicks dig Unix certification.

  6. Re:Mini seems to go without M7 ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Not true... http://www.apple.com/ipad-mini/specs/ specifically lists the chip as: "A7 chip with 64-bit architecture and M7 motion coprocessor"

  7. A shot at other OS, computer *and* device makers by perpenso · · Score: 5, Interesting

    iWork is now free, and include collaboration features that MS Office will have a hell of a time trying to match.

    -jcr

    A major shot at other operating system, computer *and* mobile device makers. Free (as in beer) major OS update (computers) and free productivity apps (computers and mobile devices). Bundling the productivity apps with new computers and mobile devices will help Apple maintain their price points. Once again, Apple demonstrates that they are a hardware company at heart, that software is a tool to sell that hardware.

  8. thin thing by swampfriend · · Score: 4, Funny

    wouldn't a better name have been "ipod hair"

  9. Incompetent Press by SuperKendall · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Not to bash the iPhone, but how is it that Apple seems to be so much ahead of the pack when it comes to the iPad but the iPhone seems to be just another high-end smartphone?

    It seems that way because the press is incapable of understanding what it means that both iPad and iPhone now ship with a 64-bit processor, and full-time motion chip - as well as strong BTLE support, something Android has only recently begun to adopt.

    The iPhone 5s is leading all of the other smartphones on the market today in terms of technology - just not in screen size.

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    1. Re:Incompetent Press by purpledinoz · · Score: 5, Funny

      Sweet, 64-bit processor. Now I can have more than 4 billion friends on facebook!

  10. A $600 Mac mini is also UNIX(R) by perpenso · · Score: 3

    Apple haters or not, the saddest thing to realize is that the only UNIX(R) Workstation on the market is now the Mac. As Apple is the only UNIX 03 certification holder who is still making desktops and laptops. All the other UNIX 03 hardware produced at the moment is Datacenter-only rackmounted servers.

    So $2999 for a powerful UNIX(R) Workstation is a fair price.

    A $600 Mac mini is also UNIX(R) and for many UNIX(R) users it is quite usable. Not all UNIX(R) users need a *high performance* workstation.

  11. Re:Mac PRO starts at 3K only 256GB storage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    The Mac Pro is intended to be a graphics/video workstation. You use external disks to hold your data because you have massive amount of data you need to deal with.

    No internal drive is big enough for the workloads it is intended to be used for, you attach a external cage with a bunch of disks via thunderbolt or a SAN.

  12. Re:Mavericks is free? Hmmm... by fox1324 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Apple makes their money primarily from selling hardware. By making OS updates free it makes moving to the Mac ecosystem that much more attractive.

  13. Re: install on any machine by SpaceManFlip · · Score: 4, Informative

    Not really true. It just needs special bootloaders to emulate Macs' EFI, and a few customized drivers, and a healthy disregard for EULAs.

  14. Getting to be too many models, again? by gman003 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Remember the mid-90s, when Apple had dozens upon dozens of Macintoshes, Power Macs, Quadras, and so on? And how one of the first things Jobs did when he returned was slash all of those, which put them back on the road to their current success?

    Yeah, they're up to four different iPads now, all currently being sold. The iPad Mini, "iPad Mini with Retina", iPad 2, and iPad Air, and I'm sure they still have some "Fourth-Generation iPads" to sell off. Each of these has a few variants for WiFi/3G and storage. And they also have a trio of iPhones - the 4S, 5C and 5S - again with storage capacity variations.

    On the desktop, a pair of laptops (the Macbook Air and Macbook Pro) with a few size options, and trio of desktops (Mini, iMac (two sizes) and Mac Pro) has worked pretty well for them. They really need to cut down on their other models - using the old iPhone as the "cheap" model worked, discontinuing the old one in favor of a low-cost second model would also have worked, but as it is I see little purpose to keeping both the 4S and 5C around. And for the iPad? A Mini and a Pro would have been fine. Google is actually being smarter than they are on this - they have a Nexus 7 and a Nexus 10, updated as needed. Clear product differentiation - you want a small, cheap tablet? Nexus 7. Larger and more powerful tablet? Nexus 10. Apple is less clear - their high-end "Mini" costs the same as their low-end "full-size". They could probably make the iPad models make sense (iPad Mini, iPad Pro Mini, iPad, iPad Pro), but the way they currently are is crap.

    1. Re:Getting to be too many models, again? by sootman · · Score: 3, Insightful

      No, it's not the same, or even very confusing, because the differences are mostly binary. The Mac lineup in the mid-90s was indeed a mess. The models were randomly arranged and it was like "if you want the sunroof, you have to get the leather seats" with cars. Now, all the products are just the answer to a few questions:

      Laptop: Super-thin, or powerful? Air: 11" or 13"? Pro: 13" or 15"? Retina or not? And then the typical speed/RAM/HD options.

      iPad: they don't really expect people to buy the iPad 2. It's there for educational buyers, or the small handful of people who want a cheap 10" iPad. They aren't on the main iPad page, only on the "compare" page and in the store. (I don't even know if they actually have iPad 2s sitting out in the retail stores.)

      Inventory of iPads that are, as of today, "old", will be cleared out quickly and never spoken of again. That leaves: 8" or 10"? Retina or not? 16/32/64 GB? 3G or WiFi-only? Four yes/no questions, the answer to each of which is pretty simple for most people, and in every case, "more costs more". Few people are so budget-constrained AND with such strong needs that they're really agonizing over "I want this capacity, but then I can't afford 3G..."

      Phones: You want 2 tiers, Apple wants 3. For a while they had 2, at $199 and $99; now they have 3, at $199, $99, and $0. Not THAT confusing. The choices are: free and black, $99 fast and colorful and bigger screen, or $199, staid colors, and super powerful. Beyond that, you pick your carrier (duh) and capacity (if you're getting a non-$0 phone.)

      Google isn't a big hardware maker. Neither is Amazon. It makes sense that they'd keep their lineups simple. Apple, on the other hand, makes all their money on hardware (note the free OS upgrade and free productivity apps, etc.) so naturally they want to appeal to as many people as possible, and give you the option to spend as much as you want. :-)

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    2. Re:Getting to be too many models, again? by gman003 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yes, I agree that Apple isn't back at '95 levels yet. But the point is that they're sliding in that direction. They're gaining more and more models that don't seem to serve a strong purpose.

      While the iPad line does boil down to a few simple choices, the *naming* of that line does not in any way indicate it. The Google comparison was just a demonstration that Google is managing a more Jobs-like naming convention than Apple is.

  15. iPad 2? Why? by Cinder6 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's somewhat baffling that anyone these days would want an iPad 2. The Mini outstrips it in every area but screen size, at the same price. I would also imagine that continuing to support it is obnoxious for developers.

    Anyway, I was planning on buying the iPad Air, but the Mini is looking a lot more tempting, given that the only difference anymore is screen size. I just wish one of them had Touch ID.

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    1. Re:iPad 2? Why? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Funny

      Many people prefer a 7" tablet because it's about the right size to hold in one hand for long periods.

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  16. Re:Only 16GB by CastrTroy · · Score: 4, Informative

    If it was at least linear, I could deal with it. Buy why does upgrading from 16 GB to 32 GB (an additional 16 GB) cost $100, while upgrading from 64 GB to 128 GB (an additional 64 GB) also cost $100? $100 for 64 GB extra is almost reasonable, assuming they are using quality NAND storage chips like you find on hard drives, and not the kind of stuff you find in SD cards. But $100 for 16 GB of storage is just robbery.

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  17. Re:A shot at other OS, computer *and* device maker by real-modo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Then you're an idiot and need to learn how pricing works....i5, 8gb ram, aluminum case pc laptop on newegg RIGHT NOW, $400. Comes with windows, and then add office for $140 more? Ohhh....soooo much more $ than a Mac!!

    Nine-hour battery life with reasonable weight? A battery that lasts five years with only 30% decrease in capacity?

    Reasonably well color-calibrated screen pretty much covering sRGB, with reasonable sharpness, viewing angles and brightness, which doesn't wobble or develop faults in a couple of years?

    Accurate, pleasant-to-use trackpad?

    Backlit keyboard, typing on which isn't uncomfortable, annoying, or error-prone? And which doesn't lose key caps when you sneeze or develop unresponsive keys?

    Good durability? Good resale value?

    Windows laptops with these features, the features that make the difference between resenting your tool and enjoying using it and owning it, do exist. Granted.

    But every time I've looked for one in the last four years, in the place where I live, matching a Macbook Pro in the Windows space seems to cost between 50% and 200% more. And no Windows laptops match MBPs on resale.

    I don't think Mac users are the idiots. I think I am, for refusing to buy a good tool at a fair price.

  18. Re:iPad 2 because contracts, duh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's somewhat baffling that anyone these days would want an iPad 2.

    It's not baffling and it's not about "want." Apple has signed a lot of contracts with school systems for large volume, fixed price delivery of iPads and most likely those contracts included qualifiers that Apple must deliver products which are "commercially available" at the time of delivery. Discontinuing the iPad 2 would probably require Apple to deliver the newer products which have a lower profit margin and a higher consumer demand.

    Those are fairly common terms to put in when you're writing long term volume purchase agreements.

  19. And now, without the marketing bollocks by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 4, Funny

    which has a 9.7" Retina display

    Let me just pass that through my "marketing bullshit" remover:

    which has a 9.7" display

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  20. Re:A shot at other OS, computer *and* device maker by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Okay, the cheap laptops are not in the same league, but there are comparable Windows ultrabooks with excellent calibrated displays, similar specs, battery life etc. NEC's LaVie series, some ASUS and Samsung models, and of course Sony.

    Apple laptops are not magic, or particularly good value. They are similar to the competition, it's just that no-one else has the Reality Distortion Field that makes them seem so much better.

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  21. Re:A shot at other OS, computer *and* device maker by the_B0fh · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yet another person who thinks throwing a bunch of substandard crap together in a box makes it equivalent to a nicely designed machine. When you show me a box that have similar hardware, thermal, weight, battery life, PCIe flash, screen resolution, etc characteristics for that price, then we can start talking.

    A $400 laptop is essentially netbook territory with spinning rust. You expect that to have the same performance as a macbook pro?

    *SERIOUSLY?!*

  22. Re:A shot at other OS, computer *and* device maker by farble1670 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Apple laptops are not magic

    but they are unix, and unlike linux, everything just works out of the box. for some of us, it's worth paying more to not have to dink around for hours on the weekend to hopefully get things running smoothly.

    macs are overpriced, but not as much as some folks say. consider this MBP,
    http://store.apple.com/us/buy-mac/macbook-pro

    it's $1800 with no upgrades.

    the most comparable thing i can find at dell.com is this,
    http://www.dell.com/us/p/xps-12-9q33/pd?oc=dncwi16b&model_id=xps-12-9q33

    it's $600 less, but it has 1/2 the memory, worse graphics, a slightly smaller display and lesser res, and a 128GB SSD vs. a next-gen 512GB SSD. also, it runs windows, not a unix-based OS.

    how about toshiba?
    http://www.toshiba.com/us/computers/laptops/kira/kirabook13/KIRAbook13-i5-touch

    $300 less, but has last-gen graphics, last-gen core processor, and a last-gen SSD that's 1/2 the size. it does have a touchscreen where the MPB does not.

  23. Re:Only 16GB by Kjella · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Psychology. A lot of people will stay on the base model and pat themselves on the back for $100 well saved. The people who want more space will by sold up to the 64/128 GB model and pat themselves on the back for getting so many more GB/$. I think the subset of people who are:

    a) certain 16GB won't be enough
    b) certain 32GB will be enough
    c) willing to pay $100 extra for the privilege

    is in an extreme minority. People have no idea what NAND prices are, they just need to feel good about their own choice and the easiest way is to give them a bad choice to make it look good against. So raise your hand everyone with a 32GB model ;)

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  24. Re:A shot at other OS, computer *and* device maker by schnell · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The vast bulk of the market has already turned it's back on this notion of "design". Once you take that away, Apple is nothing special at all.

    I promised myself a long time ago to stop replying in Slashdot Apple fanboy/troll wars, but this one really got me.

    Having used all modern OSes quite a bit, I can tell you plainly that if you think Apple is about fancy hardware cases and rounded corners, you don't get it. Please do not make comparisons to Windows commodity PCs solely based on hardware, because that's not what Apple is about on the desktop. Unlike almost anyone else in the industry, Apple is a software company that makes their money with hardware.

    Their goal is to sell you a high-margin, high-end piece of hardware that may not be differentiated based on hardware, but is differentiated based on shipping with a UNIX-based OS that has a slick and efficient UI; integrated cloud sharing and automatic backups; bundled office apps that can match or beat MS Office/LibreOffice; iLife apps (iMovie, iPhoto, Garage Band) that have so serious free competition; and an integrated entertainment ecosystem (iTunes) that nobody else but Amazon comes close to (sorry, Google Play is nowhere near competitive for a desktop user). "I can get the equivalent hardware for cheaper with Windows or Ubuntu" is a false argument, because it's the software that makes a Mac special. I know there are "lots" of people who buy Macs and install a different OS on them, but I think that's a Slashdot-centric view of "lots" - a.k.a. "lots of people buy Raspberry Pis."

    YMMV as to what that software differentiation is worth, but for those who buy Macs, the answer is clearly "it's worth a lot and still a bargain."

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  25. Re:A shot at other OS, computer *and* device maker by swell · · Score: 4, Insightful

    > R&D

    It's simple. Were it not for Apple and a very few other companies that do research, who take chances, who bet their lives that you want to move ahead, we would be using DOS.

    R&D costs money. Dell and HP won't invest there; their money goes for marketing. Apple does real R&D and I am happy to support that.

    Additionally, some foreign companies are investing increasingly in R&D. Apple (and Qualcomm, a few others) may be the only viable American company that remains.

    Give your money to those who innovate, not to mass junk producers.

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    ...omphaloskepsis often...
  26. Re:A shot at other OS, computer *and* device maker by pherthyl · · Score: 3, Insightful

    >> Apple laptops are not magic, or particularly good value.

    Two things that I like about Apple laptops that are unmatched:
    1. Trackpad is just first class. I have never seen any windows machine with a trackpad so smooth and accurate. Also the gestures in the OS are actually useful to the point where I prefer using the trackpad over a mouse for most applications (not image editing).
    2. Magnetic power adapter. This is just killer compared to the stupid barrel connectors everyone else has. I would pay an extra $100 just for that feature.